• Trump Be Gone

    From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to All on Wed Nov 9 14:28:45 2022
    I knew that all this "Trump endorsement" was going to be a bad thing! Trump doesn't get the message from the media, and that message is "America listens
    to us, not you!"

    Dr Oz had good intentions, but as smart as he is, he doesn't understand the monsters that the media has created; he thinks they're good people who will vote against the destruction of the USA, but he's dead wrong.

    Here's a tip that I will share with future candidates: Keep your Trumpism to yourself until after the election. Keep a distance from Trump. TDS is a real condition. Reject his endorsement, and denounce his racist & sexist personal life. Make big liberal promises and then screw those lefties over big time on election day! But will they listen to me?

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Nov 9 10:07:39 2022
    On 09 Nov 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    I knew that all this "Trump endorsement" was going to be a bad thing!

    I think we all knew that. But it took losses at the ballot box to convince
    you of it.

    Trump doesn't get the message from the media, and that message is
    "America listens to us, not you!"

    When and how was this message sent from the media to Trump?

    Dr Oz had good intentions,

    You know what they say about the Road to Hell...

    Dr Oz had good intentions, but as smart as he is, he doesn't understand the monsters that the media has created;

    So now the people who voted against your candidate of choice are "monsters?"

    he thinks they're good people
    who will vote against the destruction of the USA, but he's dead wrong.

    Have you entertained the possibility that that's exactly what they did?

    Here's a tip that I will share with future candidates: Keep your
    Trumpism to yourself until after the election.

    What would you suggest to a future candidate who *is* Trump?

    Keep a distance from
    Trump. TDS is a real condition.

    Indeed it is, but not in the way that you think.

    Reject his endorsement, and denounce his
    racist & sexist personal life.

    It's interesting that you're finally willing to admit this about Trump.

    Make big liberal promises and then screw
    those lefties over big time on election day!

    What makes you think that conservatives will vote for "big liberal promises?"

    But will they listen to me?

    Probably not, because you've failed to account for the fact that in order to become candidates in a general election, politicians must first win a
    primary. Trump endorsements were a blessing during the primaries.

    So what you're basically asking future Republican candidates to do is to hide their true intentions because they'll lose if those intentions are known.
    Nice!

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Nov 9 13:23:25 2022
    On 09 Nov 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    I knew that all this "Trump endorsement" was going to be a bad thing! Trump doesn't get the message from the media, and that message is
    "America listens to us, not you!"

    "They're trying to blame President Trump today. And I want to tell you how shortsighted and ridiculous that is. It is pathetic. The people that are running out and saying it's Trump's fault. No, that is a lazy, pathetic,
    wimpy, easy mindset." -- Marjorie Taylor Greene

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Nov 9 13:33:52 2022
    On 09 Nov 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    Dr Oz had good intentions, but as smart as he is, he doesn't understand the monsters that the media has created; he thinks they're good people
    who will vote against the destruction of the USA, but he's dead wrong.

    "We have the worst inflation in four decades, the worst collapse in real
    wages in 40 years, the worst crime wave since the 1990s, the worst border crisis in U.S. history. We have Joe Biden, who is the least popular president since Harry Truman -- since presidential polling happened -- and there
    wasn't a red wave. That is a searing indictment of the Republican Party.
    That is a searing indictment of the message that we have been sending to the voters. They looked at all of that and looked at the Republican alternative
    and said 'no thanks.'" -- Marc Thiessen, Fox News pundit

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wed Nov 9 16:40:00 2022
    Dr Oz had good intentions, but as smart as he is, he doesn't understand the monsters that the media has created; he thinks they're good people who will vote against the destruction of the USA, but he's dead wrong.

    The one thing I cannot believe about that race is that there were enough
    people who wanted to vote for someone who has shown, repeatedly, that he is
    no longer all there. Those people can claim that a President is a
    figurehead, but Congresspeople are not supposed to be.

    Here's a tip that I will share with future candidates: Keep your Trumpism to yourself until after the election. Keep a distance from Trump. TDS is a real condition. Reject his endorsement, and denounce his racist & sexist personal life. Make big liberal promises and then screw those lefties over big time on election day! But will they listen to me?

    Trump mocked DeSantis. DeSantis, and other Florida Republicans associated
    with him, won easily. That is also telling.

    BTW, while we are at it, apparently people like Stacey Abrams and Beto
    O'Rourke may want to distance themselves from certain celebrities. Having
    such endorsements continues to bring them no luck.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Wed Nov 9 16:54:00 2022
    I knew that all this "Trump endorsement" was going to be a bad thing!

    I think we all knew that. But it took losses at the ballot box to convince you of it.

    Except he has claimed that Trump is irrelevant before now.

    So what you're basically asking future Republican candidates to do is to hide their true intentions because they'll lose if those intentions are known. Nice!

    Why not? That is what successful Democrats do.

    "They're trying to blame President Trump today. And I want to tell you how shortsighted and ridiculous that is. It is pathetic. The people that are running out and saying it's Trump's fault. No, that is a lazy, pathetic, wimpy, easy mindset." -- Marjorie Taylor Greene

    If a bunch of Biden-endorsed candidates lost most of their races, I am
    guessing that MTG would draw a different conclusion, i.e. it would be
    Biden's fault.

    Trump does not carry as much weight as he thinks, or some in the press,
    thinks he does.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Wed Nov 9 20:55:12 2022
    I knew that all this "Trump endorsement" was going to be a bad thing!

    I think we all knew that. But it took losses at the ballot box to
    convince you of it.

    No really, I knew it all along. I've been complaining about Trump's meddling but I've been complaining to the wrong people.

    Trump doesn't get the message from the media, and that message is "America listens to us, not you!"

    When and how was this message sent from the media to Trump?

    It's called "taking a hint."

    Dr Oz had good intentions, but as smart as he is, he doesn't understa the monsters that the media has created;

    So now the people who voted against your candidate of choice are "monsters?"

    They're (you're) brainwashed by shapeshifting reptilian humanoids, so correction: the real monsters are the media.

    he thinks they're good people
    who will vote against the destruction of the USA, but he's dead wrong

    Have you entertained the possibility that that's exactly what they did?

    I've entertained the possibility that the shapeshifting reptilian humanoids destroyed the previous planet in which they inhabited prior to coming here to finish this one off.

    Here's a tip that I will share with future candidates: Keep your Trumpism to yourself until after the election.

    What would you suggest to a future candidate who *is* Trump?

    I'd vote against him in the primary.

    Reject his endorsement, and denounce his
    racist & sexist personal life.

    It's interesting that you're finally willing to admit this about Trump.

    It's a way of saying "Hail Gallaxhar."

    Make big liberal promises and then screw
    those lefties over big time on election day!

    What makes you think that conservatives will vote for "big liberal promises?"

    Then they can choose to take a handout from a Republican or a Democrat.

    So what you're basically asking future Republican candidates to do is to hide their true intentions because they'll lose if those intentions are known. Nice!

    Yes, that is how I want it to go down. Democrats do it all the time and people fall for it.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Wed Nov 9 21:22:33 2022
    "They're trying to blame President Trump today. And I want to tell you
    how shortsighted and ridiculous that is. It is pathetic. The people that are running out and saying it's Trump's fault. No, that is a lazy, pathetic, wimpy, easy mindset." -- Marjorie Taylor Greene

    The people from Marjorie's district still like Trump.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Wed Nov 9 23:05:20 2022
    The one thing I cannot believe about that race is that there were enough people who wanted to vote for someone who has shown, repeatedly, that he is no longer all there. Those people can claim that a President is a figurehead, but Congresspeople are not supposed to be.

    He can't debate, but surely he can mimic the other leftists when they say yay or nay. They just can't start with him, that's all.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Wed Nov 9 17:19:08 2022
    On 09 Nov 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    I knew that all this "Trump endorsement" was going to be a bad thin
    I think we all knew that. But it took losses at the ballot box to convin you of it.
    Except he has claimed that Trump is irrelevant before now.

    Only because Trump wasn't president anymore.

    So what you're basically asking future Republican candidates to do is to their true intentions because they'll lose if those intentions are known Nice!
    Why not? That is what successful Democrats do.

    Examples?

    "They're trying to blame President Trump today. And I want to tell you h shortsighted and ridiculous that is. It is pathetic. The people that are running out and saying it's Trump's fault. No, that is a lazy, pathetic, wimpy, easy mindset." -- Marjorie Taylor Greene
    If a bunch of Biden-endorsed candidates lost most of their races, I am guessing that MTG would draw a different conclusion, i.e. it would be Biden's fault.

    Of course.

    But according to Trump, his unsuccessful endorsement of Oz was Melania's
    fault for advising him (Trump).

    Trump does not carry as much weight as he thinks, or some in the press, thinks he does.

    Or, indeed, as some of his supporters think he does.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Nov 9 17:44:01 2022
    On 09 Nov 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    I knew that all this "Trump endorsement" was going to be a bad t
    I think we all knew that. But it took losses at the ballot box to convince you of it.
    No really, I knew it all along. I've been complaining about Trump's meddling but I've been complaining to the wrong people.

    Ok.

    Trump doesn't get the message from the media, and that message i "America listens to us, not you!"
    When and how was this message sent from the media to Trump?
    It's called "taking a hint."

    That's not a message.

    Dr Oz had good intentions, but as smart as he is, he doesn't und the monsters that the media has created;
    So now the people who voted against your candidate of choice are "monsters?"
    They're (you're) brainwashed by shapeshifting reptilian humanoids, so correction: the real monsters are the media.

    Ah, we're back to the reptilians, are we? I'm going to take that as a dodge.

    he thinks they're good people
    who will vote against the destruction of the USA, but he's dead
    Have you entertained the possibility that that's exactly what they di
    I've entertained the possibility that the shapeshifting reptilian humanoids destroyed the previous planet in which they inhabited prior to coming here to finish this one off.

    Reptilians again. You're avoiding the question.

    Here's a tip that I will share with future candidates: Keep your Trumpism to yourself until after the election.
    What would you suggest to a future candidate who *is* Trump?
    I'd vote against him in the primary.

    And if he made it to the general election?

    Reject his endorsement, and denounce his
    racist & sexist personal life.
    It's interesting that you're finally willing to admit this about Trum
    It's a way of saying "Hail Gallaxhar."

    I see. You're just not up to seriously defending your own statements today,
    are you?

    Make big liberal promises and then screw
    those lefties over big time on election day!
    What makes you think that conservatives will vote for "big liberal promises?"
    Then they can choose to take a handout from a Republican or a Democrat.

    And for those conservative voters who oppose handouts?

    So what you're basically asking future Republican candidates to do is hide their true intentions because they'll lose if those intentions a known. Nice!
    Yes, that is how I want it to go down. Democrats do it all the time and people fall for it.

    Do they, though? What evidence do you have of this?

    For how many consecutive elections do you think lying about one's true intentions would work?

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Nov 9 17:47:06 2022
    On 09 Nov 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    "They're trying to blame President Trump today. And I want to tell yo how shortsighted and ridiculous that is. It is pathetic. The people t are running out and saying it's Trump's fault. No, that is a lazy, pathetic, wimpy, easy mindset." -- Marjorie Taylor Greene
    The people from Marjorie's district still like Trump.

    Apparently they also think that you have a "lazy, pathetic, wimpy, easy mindset."

    Jeff.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Nov 10 08:07:55 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    Dr Oz had good intentions, but as smart as he is, he doesn't understand the monsters that the media has created; he thinks they're good people
    who will vote against the destruction of the USA, but he's dead wrong.

    Dr. Oz was a weak candidate. So it didn't take too much Democrat cheating to pull the (clinically proven) brain-damaged Fetterman across the finish line.

    So now Penn has a Senator to match the President. All they need is to elect some carrots and potatos to the House for a matched set.

    Here's a tip that I will share with future candidates: Keep your
    Trumpism to yourself until after the election. Keep a distance from
    Trump. TDS is a real condition. Reject his endorsement, and denounce
    his racist & sexist personal life. Make big liberal promises and then screw those lefties over big time on election day! But will they listen
    to me?

    The only people that the Trump endorsement has any impact on are the TDS people. The rest of us don't care. Endorsed or not, we still look into the candidate to see if he's the right one.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Nov 10 18:01:00 2022
    The one thing I cannot believe about that race is that there were enough people who wanted to vote for someone who has shown, repeatedly, that he is no longer all there. Those people can claim that a President is a figurehead, but Congresspeople are not supposed to be.

    He can't debate, but surely he can mimic the other leftists when they say yay or nay. They just can't start with him, that's all.

    That would work if you are only voting for a party and not who would best represent your district and your district's concerns. Many do vote just
    that way.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Thu Nov 10 17:10:00 2022
    I knew that all this "Trump endorsement" was going to be a bad thi
    I think we all knew that. But it took losses at the ballot box to convi
    you of it.
    Except he has claimed that Trump is irrelevant before now.

    Only because Trump wasn't president anymore.

    Sounds like a good reason to me.

    But according to Trump, his unsuccessful endorsement of Oz was Melania's fault for advising him (Trump).

    I bet she had nothing to do with it.

    Trump does not carry as much weight as he thinks, or some in the press, thinks he does.

    Or, indeed, as some of his supporters think he does.

    Or Democrats who are still obsessed with him.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Nov 10 17:48:00 2022
    I've entertained the possibility that the shapeshifting reptilian humanoids destroyed the previous planet in which they inhabited prior to coming here to finish this one off.

    That sounds like a "Dr. Who" story, or some other Sci-Fi. Politicians are reptilian acting, in some ways, but this is pretty far out there.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Thu Nov 10 20:04:48 2022
    On 10 Nov 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    Except he has claimed that Trump is irrelevant before now.
    Only because Trump wasn't president anymore.
    Sounds like a good reason to me.

    Trump has remained very relevant since leaving office. Tuesday's debacle and the resultant anger at Trump confirms that.

    But according to Trump, his unsuccessful endorsement of Oz was Melania's fault for advising him (Trump).
    I bet she had nothing to do with it.

    I'm inclined to bet that she did, but not to the extreme that he's making it out to be in his quest to deflect blame.

    Trump does not carry as much weight as he thinks, or some in the pr thinks he does.
    Or, indeed, as some of his supporters think he does.
    Or Democrats who are still obsessed with him.

    The people who voted for Trump didn't get sucked out into space and replaced with a new batch of conservatives. They were here on 1/6, and they've been
    here attending his rallies ever since. Some of them are currently upset with Trump for his endorsement picks, but none of them seem upset at themselves
    for having given him that power.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Thu Nov 10 20:26:23 2022
    On 10 Nov 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    I've entertained the possibility that the shapeshifting reptilian humano destroyed the previous planet in which they inhabited prior to coming he finish this one off.
    That sounds like a "Dr. Who" story, or some other Sci-Fi. Politicians
    are reptilian acting, in some ways, but this is pretty far out there.

    Last time he went all David Ick on us, he claimed he was just messing
    with us. I could be wrong, but I would expect the same from this one. I think it probable that he's doing this to avoid answering questions because he
    either finds the answers uncomfortable or cannot "both-sides" the issue. So
    he resorts to nonsense.

    Jeff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Fri Nov 11 14:01:40 2022
    it probable that he's doing this to avoid answering questions because he either finds the answers uncomfortable or cannot "both-sides" the issue. So he resorts to nonsense.

    You asked if I thought that leftists voted for Biden to "prevent the destruction of the USA," but no way. They don't care. The media's agenda is their (leftists) agenda also, no questions asked.

    Conservatives didn't know that they were voting to prevent the destruction of America either; we didn't know Biden would be so incredibly wreckless and destructive. We thought things would be sorta just fine under his "leadership" but obviously they're not.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Nov 11 08:31:37 2022
    On 11 Nov 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    it probable that he's doing this to avoid answering questions because either finds the answers uncomfortable or cannot "both-sides" the iss So he resorts to nonsense.
    You asked if I thought that leftists voted for Biden to "prevent the destruction of the USA," but no way. They don't care. The media's agenda is their (leftists) agenda also, no questions asked.

    I see. And you know this how?

    Conservatives didn't know that they were voting to prevent the
    destruction of America either; we didn't know Biden would be so
    incredibly wreckless and destructive. We thought things would be sorta just fine under his "leadership" but obviously they're not.

    The closest we came to the "destruction of America" was Trump and the GOP's behaviors after Trump lost the election.

    Biden's leadership is not bad. It's not spectacular, but it's not bad. He hasn't suggested that anyone drink bleach yet.

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Fri Nov 11 14:54:00 2022
    Trump does not carry as much weight as he thinks, or some in the

    thinks he does.
    Or, indeed, as some of his supporters think he does.
    Or Democrats who are still obsessed with him.

    The people who voted for Trump didn't get sucked out into space and replaced with a new batch of conservatives. They were here on 1/6, and they've been here attending his rallies ever since. Some of them are currently upset with Trump for his endorsement picks, but none of them seem upset at themselves for having given him that power.

    Voting for Trump doesn't make people still happy with him now. Voting for
    him in 2016 only meant they thought he was a better choice than HRC (he
    was) and voting for him in 2020 only meant they thought he was a better
    choice than Biden (whose mental capacity was already in question for good reason).

    You seem to be equating everyone that voted for him with people who attend
    the rallies yet, as I pointed out, rally size seems to have little
    correlation with actual success at the polls. If they did, you'd be
    bemoaning the second Trump term now, and all of the candidates he supported would have won their midterm elections.

    What I am guessing is that the (sometimes) crazy candidates that Trump
    endorsed in the general elections are the same ones that the DNC (and
    their donors) funneled money towards during the primaries. That is
    something that Psaki and others have confirmed did happen (financial
    backing during the primaries) as it is something they were worried might backfire, leading to more very right-wing voices in Congress.

    I even pointed this out a few weeks ago... that it might be the Democrat donors' faults if the country had swung wild-right.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Fri Nov 11 15:10:00 2022
    Biden's leadership is not bad. It's not spectacular, but it's not bad. He hasn't suggested that anyone drink bleach yet.

    Neither did Trump.

    It is a good thing that Biden hasn't said anything that you might even
    vaguely think was a suggestion to drink bleach or you'd no longer be with
    us.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Fri Nov 11 16:02:27 2022
    I see. And you know this how?

    You're proof of it. You defend everything leftists and Democrats do. You don't care about the consquences of their actions, you just care that they remain in power.

    destruction of America either; we didn't know Biden would be so incredibly wreckless and destructive. We thought things would be sort just fine under his "leadership" but obviously they're not.

    The closest we came to the "destruction of America" was Trump and the GOP's behaviors after Trump lost the election.

    That depends on what your definition of "destruction" is. Biden (with the help of other Soros employees) has turned our hard work, salaries, and citizenship all into a pile of "white supremacist jargon."

    Biden's leadership is not bad. It's not spectacular, but it's not bad. He hasn't suggested that anyone drink bleach yet.

    What's not spectacular about it? Sorry that Trump had you drink all that
    bleach - he thought that people knew better.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Fri Nov 11 16:35:40 2022
    On 11 Nov 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    Trump does not carry as much weight as he thinks, or some in thinks he does.
    Or, indeed, as some of his supporters think he does.
    Or Democrats who are still obsessed with him.
    The people who voted for Trump didn't get sucked out into space and repl with a new batch of conservatives. They were here on 1/6, and they've be here attending his rallies ever since. Some of them are currently upset Trump for his endorsement picks, but none of them seem upset at themselv for having given him that power.
    Voting for Trump doesn't make people still happy with him now. Voting
    for him in 2016 only meant they thought he was a better choice than HRC (he was) and voting for him in 2020 only meant they thought he was a better choice than Biden (whose mental capacity was already in question for good reason).

    A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump.

    You seem to be equating everyone that voted for him with people who
    attend the rallies yet, as I pointed out, rally size seems to have little correlation with actual success at the polls. If they did, you'd be bemoaning the second Trump term now, and all of the candidates he supported would have won their midterm elections.

    The only reason people have stopped voting for him now is that his candidate choices fared poorly in the midterms. Had these candidates succeeded, these
    new non-Trumpers would still be Trumpers.

    What I am guessing is that the (sometimes) crazy candidates that Trump endorsed in the general elections are the same ones that the DNC (and their donors) funneled money towards during the primaries. That is something that Psaki and others have confirmed did happen (financial backing during the primaries) as it is something they were worried might backfire, leading to more very right-wing voices in Congress.

    That could be, and it's possible that Republicans spent money in the Democrat primaries, too.

    I even pointed this out a few weeks ago... that it might be the Democrat donors' faults if the country had swung wild-right.

    Perhaps. And it could have been Republican donors' fault if the country had swung wild-left. Perhaps the things that can be bought with increased
    candidate funding matter less to Democrat voters than Republican voters.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Fri Nov 11 17:01:10 2022
    On 11 Nov 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    Biden's leadership is not bad. It's not spectacular, but it's not bad. H hasn't suggested that anyone drink bleach yet.
    Neither did Trump.

    He did suggest ingesting it. He didn't flat-out say that people should do it, but indicated that he thought it might help.

    It is a good thing that Biden hasn't said anything that you might even vaguely think was a suggestion to drink bleach or you'd no longer be with us.

    Nah, I don't drink bleach, but there are those who do. Google "Miracle
    Mineral Supplement."

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Nov 11 17:06:50 2022
    On 11 Nov 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    I see. And you know this how?
    You're proof of it. You defend everything leftists and Democrats do. You don't care about the consquences of their actions, you just care that
    they remain in power.

    How is that proof that Democrats are trying to destroy America?

    destruction of America either; we didn't know Biden would be so incredibly wreckless and destructive. We thought things would be just fine under his "leadership" but obviously they're not.
    The closest we came to the "destruction of America" was Trump and the GOP's behaviors after Trump lost the election.
    That depends on what your definition of "destruction" is. Biden (with
    the help of other Soros employees) has turned our hard work, salaries,
    and citizenship all into a pile of "white supremacist jargon."

    My hard work, salary, and citizenship are not a "pile of 'white supremacist jargon'." That one speech really set you off, didn't it? If you're white, but not a white supremacist, he wasn't talking about you. But it is strange that you took it so personally, hmm?

    Biden's leadership is not bad. It's not spectacular, but it's not bad hasn't suggested that anyone drink bleach yet.
    What's not spectacular about it? Sorry that Trump had you drink all that bleach - he thought that people knew better.

    Trump didn't have me drinking bleach -- I already knew he was an idiot and wasn't stupid enough to hang on his every word. If he thought people knew better, he obviously overestimated the intelligence of his base.

    Jeff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Sat Nov 12 01:50:07 2022
    You're proof of it. You defend everything leftists and Democrats do. don't care about the consquences of their actions, you just care that they remain in power.

    How is that proof that Democrats are trying to destroy America?

    They've managed to brainwash people into defending everything the media says, so now nobody believes anything unless they hear it from your cousins first.

    My hard work, salary, and citizenship are not a "pile of 'white supremacist jargon'." That one speech really set you off, didn't it? If

    No, it's because conservatives enjoy the rewards they get from their hard
    work, but that enjoyment is ruined because our money isn't worth jack anymore. And if I say "I want things to be back to normal," then that's part of "the great southern strategy" or some idiotic thing like that.

    Trump didn't have me drinking bleach -- I already knew he was an idiot
    and wasn't stupid enough to hang on his every word. If he thought people knew better, he obviously overestimated the intelligence of his base.

    How is that "obvious?" Was there a high volume of Trump supporters at
    hospitals with bleach poisoning? And did they wear their red hats so some
    idiot could tally them up?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Sat Nov 12 10:38:00 2022
    You seem to be equating everyone that voted for him with people who attend the rallies yet, as I pointed out, rally size seems to have little
    correlation with actual success at the polls. If they did, you'd be bemoaning the second Trump term now, and all of the candidates he supported would have won their midterm elections.

    The only reason people have stopped voting for him now is that his candidate choices fared poorly in the midterms. Had these candidates succeeded, these new non-Trumpers would still be Trumpers.

    They didn't vote for him at all "now" because he wasn't running. "They
    didn't vote for the candidates he stumped for!" you might say, but that
    would be *before* they knew those candidates were not going to fair well and, if they had voted for them, those candidates should have faired well, if what you say is true. So they must have been moving away from Trump *before*
    the election.

    Unless you are thinking of (but not stating) something about time travel,
    which would be as far-out as the recent claims of reptile-people from
    others, you seem to be contradicting yourself.

    What I am guessing is that the (sometimes) crazy candidates that Trump endorsed in the general elections are the same ones that the DNC (and their donors) funneled money towards during the primaries. That is something that Psaki and others have confirmed did happen (financial backing during the primaries) as it is something they were worried might backfire, leading to more very right-wing voices in Congress.

    That could be, and it's possible that Republicans spent money in the Democrat primaries, too.

    That is possible, but no one has taken credit for doing so and I suspect
    they needed their money for their own campaigns. When the GOP version of
    Psaki starts worrying about Republicans donating to Democrat campaigns I
    will start worrying about it. There does not seem to be much evidence of
    that.

    I even pointed this out a few weeks ago... that it might be the Democrat donors' faults if the country had swung wild-right.

    Perhaps. And it could have been Republican donors' fault if the country had swung wild-left. Perhaps the things that can be bought with increased candidate funding matter less to Democrat voters than Republican voters.

    Voters maybe. The big-money donors who participated in the donations that
    Psaki was worried about, apparently not.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Sat Nov 12 10:22:00 2022
    Biden's leadership is not bad. It's not spectacular, but it's not bad. hasn't suggested that anyone drink bleach yet.
    Neither did Trump.

    He did suggest ingesting it. He didn't flat-out say that people should do it, but indicated that he thought it might help.

    He said it was too bad there was not something LIKE it that could be
    ingested. It isn't his fault that the American education system is so
    broken that some (like you) think he suggested it litterally, and that
    others were dumb enough to do it.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Nov 12 10:29:00 2022
    No, it's because conservatives enjoy the rewards they get from their hard work, but that enjoyment is ruined because our money isn't worth jack anymore.

    +1.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Nov 12 10:24:42 2022
    On 12 Nov 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    You're proof of it. You defend everything leftists and Democrats don't care about the consquences of their actions, you just care they remain in power.
    How is that proof that Democrats are trying to destroy America?
    They've managed to brainwash people into defending everything the media says, so now nobody believes anything unless they hear it from your cousins first.

    The media exists to inform the public. That's why "freedom of the press" is
    in the first amendment. What the Constitution doesn't protect the press from, though, is being sued for libel.

    My hard work, salary, and citizenship are not a "pile of 'white supremacist jargon'." That one speech really set you off, didn't it?
    No, it's because conservatives enjoy the rewards they get from their hard work, but that enjoyment is ruined because our money isn't worth jack anymore. And if I say "I want things to be back to normal," then that's part of "the great southern strategy" or some idiotic thing like that.

    I enjoy the rewards I get from working, and the inflation rate has started to turn downwards.

    Trump didn't have me drinking bleach -- I already knew he was an idio and wasn't stupid enough to hang on his every word. If he thought peo knew better, he obviously overestimated the intelligence of his base.
    How is that "obvious?" Was there a high volume of Trump supporters at hospitals with bleach poisoning? And did they wear their red hats so some idiot could tally them up?

    There was an uptick in the number of poison center calls regarding bleach
    after Trump made that statement and honestly, who else is going to believe Trump if he suggest that they drink bleach?

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Sat Nov 12 10:39:42 2022
    On 12 Nov 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    You seem to be equating everyone that voted for him with people who attend the rallies yet, as I pointed out, rally size seems to have little
    correlation with actual success at the polls. If they did, you'd b bemoaning the second Trump term now, and all of the candidates he supported would have won their midterm elections.
    The only reason people have stopped voting for him now is that his candi choices fared poorly in the midterms. Had these candidates succeeded, th new non-Trumpers would still be Trumpers.
    They didn't vote for him at all "now" because he wasn't running. "They didn't vote for the candidates he stumped for!" you might say, but that would be *before* they knew those candidates were not going to fair well and, if they had voted for them, those candidates should have faired
    well, if what you say is true. So they must have been moving away from Trump *before* the election.

    Sorry, I meant that they stopped supporting him after the midterms.

    Unless you are thinking of (but not stating) something about time travel, which would be as far-out as the recent claims of reptile-people from others, you seem to be contradicting yourself.

    Nope, no time travel, just a wording mistake on my part. Reptilians still remain a possibility, though.

    What I am guessing is that the (sometimes) crazy candidates that Tr endorsed in the general elections are the same ones that the DNC (a their donors) funneled money towards during the primaries. That is something that Psaki and others have confirmed did happen (financia backing during the primaries) as it is something they were worried backfire, leading to more very right-wing voices in Congress.
    That could be, and it's possible that Republicans spent money in the Dem primaries, too.
    That is possible, but no one has taken credit for doing so and I suspect they needed their money for their own campaigns. When the GOP version of Psaki starts worrying about Republicans donating to Democrat campaigns I will start worrying about it. There does not seem to be much evidence of that.

    Anyone can donate to anyone they like. It's not uncommon for corporations to donate to both candidates in a race.

    I even pointed this out a few weeks ago... that it might be the Dem donors' faults if the country had swung wild-right.
    Perhaps. And it could have been Republican donors' fault if the country swung wild-left. Perhaps the things that can be bought with increased candidate funding matter less to Democrat voters than Republican voters.
    Voters maybe. The big-money donors who participated in the donations that Psaki was worried about, apparently not.

    Candidates can return donations, if they wish.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Sat Nov 12 10:45:55 2022
    On 12 Nov 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    Biden's leadership is not bad. It's not spectacular, but it's not hasn't suggested that anyone drink bleach yet.
    Neither did Trump.
    He did suggest ingesting it. He didn't flat-out say that people should d but indicated that he thought it might help.
    He said it was too bad there was not something LIKE it that could be ingested. It isn't his fault that the American education system is so broken that some (like you) think he suggested it litterally, and that others were dumb enough to do it.

    What's more "like" bleach than bleach, especially when ingestible bleach in
    the form of "Miracle Mineral Supplement" is available?

    Jeff.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Jeff Thiele on Sat Nov 12 19:25:11 2022
    Hello Jeff,

    [..]

    Conservatives didn't know that they were voting to prevent the
    destruction of America either; we didn't know Biden would be so
    incredibly wreckless and destructive. We thought things would be
    sorta
    just fine under his "leadership" but obviously they're not.

    The closest we came to the "destruction of America" was Trump and the GOP's
    behaviors after Trump lost the election.

    Biden's leadership is not bad. It's not spectacular, but it's not bad. He hasn't suggested that anyone drink bleach yet.

    "It's a hoax!" ~President Donald J. Trump

    Those three little words.
    Said in public.
    Caused 400.000+ American deaths.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Sat Nov 12 18:33:30 2022
    The media exists to inform the public. That's why "freedom of the press" is in the first amendment. What the Constitution doesn't protect the
    press from, though, is being sued for libel.

    I didn't know that they can be sued for libel. With that being said,
    Republican members of government should sue them for all they're worth!

    I enjoy the rewards I get from working, and the inflation rate has
    started to turn downwards.

    Inflation (you know this) can be measured in a lot of ways. The oil price has only come down due to Biden tapping into the strategic petroleum reserves. There's nothing heroic about that; we're less prepared for a disaster. The strategic reserves weren't allocated for "lowering gas prices ahead of an election," they're there for emergency use to keep our government functioning in case of emergency.

    How is that "obvious?" Was there a high volume of Trump supporters at hospitals with bleach poisoning? And did they wear their red hats so idiot could tally them up?

    There was an uptick in the number of poison center calls regarding bleach after Trump made that statement and honestly, who else is going to
    believe Trump if he suggest that they drink bleach?

    Uptick means "small increase." Let's see how much of that "small increase" in calls were related to bleach ingestion, and let's see if the victims were wearing their Trump hats while they chugged that stuff, before we make insane and unfounded conclusions.

    If a billionaire told me to ingest bleach, and I listened, I'd sue him. Any motions filed against Trump for bleach-related injuries?

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Nov 13 00:35:45 2022
    On 12 Nov 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    The media exists to inform the public. That's why "freedom of the pre is in the first amendment. What the Constitution doesn't protect the press from, though, is being sued for libel.
    I didn't know that they can be sued for libel. With that being said, Republican members of government should sue them for all they're worth!

    They could, but they don't. Why?

    I enjoy the rewards I get from working, and the inflation rate has started to turn downwards.
    Inflation (you know this) can be measured in a lot of ways. The oil
    price has only come down due to Biden tapping into the strategic
    petroleum reserves. There's nothing heroic about that; we're less
    prepared for a disaster. The strategic reserves weren't allocated for "lowering gas prices ahead of an election," they're there for emergency use to keep our government functioning in case of emergency.

    So this wasn't an emergency?

    How is that "obvious?" Was there a high volume of Trump supporte hospitals with bleach poisoning? And did they wear their red hat idiot could tally them up?
    There was an uptick in the number of poison center calls regarding bl after Trump made that statement and honestly, who else is going to believe Trump if he suggest that they drink bleach?
    Uptick means "small increase." Let's see how much of that "small
    increase" in calls were related to bleach ingestion, and let's see if
    the victims were wearing their Trump hats while they chugged that stuff, before we make insane and unfounded conclusions.

    How many of the uptick in poison control centers regarding bleach ingestion were were related to bleach ingestion? Is that the question we're asking?

    If a billionaire told me to ingest bleach, and I listened, I'd sue him. Any motions filed against Trump for bleach-related injuries?

    Nope, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

    Jeff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Nov 13 05:32:10 2022
    "It's a hoax!" ~President Donald J. Trump

    He was close; the real hoax is the vaccine.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Sun Nov 13 10:32:00 2022
    You seem to be equating everyone that voted for him with people wh
    attend the rallies yet, as I pointed out, rally size seems to have
    little
    correlation with actual success at the polls. If they did, you'd bemoaning the second Trump term now, and all of the candidates he supported would have won their midterm elections.
    The only reason people have stopped voting for him now is that his cand
    choices fared poorly in the midterms. Had these candidates succeeded, t
    new non-Trumpers would still be Trumpers.
    They didn't vote for him at all "now" because he wasn't running. "They didn't vote for the candidates he stumped for!" you might say, but that would be *before* they knew those candidates were not going to fair well and, if they had voted for them, those candidates should have faired well, if what you say is true. So they must have been moving away from Trump *before* the election.

    Sorry, I meant that they stopped supporting him after the midterms.

    But even that cannot be correct. Otherwise, his supported candidates would have won as votes are cast before/during the midterms, not after.

    What happened during the midterms tells you what you need to know... they
    were moving away from Trump *before* the election, and he is, and was, no longer the force you believe him to be.

    Voters maybe. The big-money donors who participated in the donations that
    Psaki was worried about, apparently not.

    Candidates can return donations, if they wish.

    They likely wanted to win and may not have realized where the money was
    coming from.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Nov 13 10:40:00 2022
    I didn't know that they can be sued for libel. With that being said, Republican members of government should sue them for all they're worth!

    Seriously? They get sued for libel (and slander) often enough that it is difficult not to know about it. They are not immune, but it does take
    someone with the evidence, time, and money to do so. If they say something libelous about you, for example, do you have the money to go against them
    and their money? Probably not.

    If a billionaire told me to ingest bleach, and I listened, I'd sue him. Any motions filed against Trump for bleach-related injuries?

    Except Trump never told them to ingest bleach. Nor did he suggest it.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Nov 13 18:18:09 2022
    Hello Aaron,

    The media exists to inform the public. That's why "freedom of the
    press"
    is in the first amendment. What the Constitution doesn't protect the
    press from, though, is being sued for libel.

    I didn't know that they can be sued for libel. With that being said, Republican members of government should sue them for all they're worth!

    "It's a hoax!" ~ President Donald J. Trump

    That is what your orange Jesus told the world about Covid-19, causing
    the deaths of over 400,000 Americans who actually believed what he said.
    Should the families of the deceased sue the former president for the
    bad advice he had told them, as reported by the news media? After all,
    it cannot be denied he said what he said, as it was all caught live
    on camera, and posted on YouTube for all to see.

    We all know that no POTUS can be sued for being an idiot.

    The news media reports the news, no matter how much of an idiot
    a president makes himself out to be. Being a former TV reality star,
    Trump knew that. And took full advantage of that fact.

    Which is one of the main reasons why he lost his bid for a second
    term by over 7 million votes to Joe Biden.

    I enjoy the rewards I get from working, and the inflation rate has
    started to turn downwards.

    Inflation (you know this) can be measured in a lot of ways. The oil price has
    only come down due to Biden tapping into the strategic petroleum reserves. There's nothing heroic about that; we're less prepared for a disaster. The strategic reserves weren't allocated for "lowering gas prices ahead of an election," they're there for emergency use to keep our government functioning
    in case of emergency.

    Thanks to Biden's handling of the economy, Democrats won election
    to offices all over, retaining the Senate, maybe even the House, along
    with taking governorships and state legislatures.

    How is that "obvious?" Was there a high volume of Trump
    supporters at
    hospitals with bleach poisoning? And did they wear their red
    hats so
    idiot could tally them up?

    There was an uptick in the number of poison center calls regarding
    bleach
    after Trump made that statement and honestly, who else is going to
    believe Trump if he suggest that they drink bleach?

    Uptick means "small increase." Let's see how much of that "small increase" in
    calls were related to bleach ingestion, and let's see if the victims were wearing their Trump hats while they chugged that stuff, before we make insane
    and unfounded conclusions.

    It has been widely reported, the conclusions easily determined.
    Some people are idiots. And when idiots listen to other idiots,
    idiots do what other idiots tell them to do.

    There are also idiots who do idiotic things without any prompting
    from other idiots. And then there are idiots who are special cases.

    If a billionaire told me to ingest bleach, and I listened, I'd sue him. Any
    motions filed against Trump for bleach-related injuries?

    They're dead. They thought it was all a hoax, based on what their
    orange Jesus had told them -

    "It's a hoax." ~Donald J. Trump

    Glad you are still with us. Must have been a bad batch of bleach
    that saved you.

    Or maybe it was the sunlight being shown ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Sun Nov 13 16:14:37 2022
    Republican members of government should sue them for all they're wort

    They could, but they don't. Why?

    They're probably in on the hustle.

    "lowering gas prices ahead of an election," they're there for emergen use to keep our government functioning in case of emergency.

    So this wasn't an emergency?

    The election was an emergency for Biden, because he (supposedly) was going to be impeached for his failed Afghanistan withdrawl (by Republicans in congress.)

    How many of the uptick in poison control centers regarding bleach ingestion were were related to bleach ingestion? Is that the question we're asking?

    How many of them wore red hats?

    If a billionaire told me to ingest bleach, and I listened, I'd sue hi Any motions filed against Trump for bleach-related injuries?

    Nope, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

    It would be interesting to find out how many white people have been victimized by black people due to Biden's "white supremacy" rhetoric.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Sun Nov 13 22:17:28 2022
    Seriously? They get sued for libel (and slander) often enough that it is difficult not to know about it. They are not immune, but it does take

    I heard about the Sandman guy suing CNN or something, but there've been countless (seemingly) false accusations against Republicans (by the
    media) without any later news of them being sued for it. Like the Russian collusion thing; how many times have we heard the media describing him as a Russian asset?

    He should sue them for each individual count of slander, but I guess good
    ol' Trump just has better things to do.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Nov 13 22:36:33 2022
    "It's a hoax!" ~ President Donald J. Trump

    The virus is real but the vaccine and the origin story are hoaxes.

    At least Trump was technically correct, while Joe's dead wrong about:

    "If you take the vaccine then you won't get covid."

    Trump explains stuff badly while Joe intentionally misleads.

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