• Biden Border Policy

    From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to All on Sun Oct 16 17:01:04 2022
    "On Thursday, the Biden administration and Mexico announced a joint deal to slow migration flows through the region. The number of Venezuelans seeking asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border began surging in September, threatening a humanitarian crisis in U.S. border cities, including in El Paso.

    "Mexico agreed to take back Venezuelans returned under Title 42, a U.S. public health authority used throughout the pandemic to quickly return migrants to their country of origin, or in some cases, to Mexico. The U.S. agreed to
    supply 65,000 additional temporary work visas for Mexican, Central American
    and Haitian laborers, and also agreed to accept up to 24,000 Venezuelan migrants in Mexico via air travel, who could show proof of sponsorship in the U.S."

    https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/2022/10/15/border-patrol-venezuelan-migr ants-immigration-juarez-mexico/69565432007/
    (https://tinyurl.com/2p83aj9w)

    Jeff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525.1 to Jeff Thiele on Fri Oct 21 19:34:46 2022
    "On Thursday, the Biden administration and Mexico announced a joint deal t slow migration flows through the region. The number of Venezuelans seeking asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border began surging in September, threatening a humanitarian crisis in U.S. border cities, including in El Paso.

    Something is left unexplained about all this:

    Since when is a border-related humanitarian crisis a big deal?

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Oct 21 20:15:59 2022
    On 21 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    "On Thursday, the Biden administration and Mexico announced a joint de slow migration flows through the region. The number of Venezuelans see asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border began surging in September, threateni humanitarian crisis in U.S. border cities, including in El Paso.
    Something is left unexplained about all this:
    Since when is a border-related humanitarian crisis a big deal?

    It's always been a big deal. The difference has been in how to deal with it without just moving it somewhere else.

    Jeff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Sun Oct 23 00:57:50 2022
    "On Thursday, the Biden administration and Mexico announced a joi slow migration flows through the region. The number of Venezuelan asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border began surging in September, thre humanitarian crisis in U.S. border cities, including in El Paso.
    Something is left unexplained about all this:
    Since when is a border-related humanitarian crisis a big deal?

    It's always been a big deal. The difference has been in how to deal with it without just moving it somewhere else.

    You're not making any sense. We've had a humanitarian crisis at the border
    ever since Joe took office. Thousands of people have died along the border since Joe took office. Thousands of unaccompanied minors have turned up at the border since Joe took office.

    But it's not a "humanitarian crisis" unless "..a bunch of Venezuelans are coming!"

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Oct 23 00:26:40 2022
    On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    Something is left unexplained about all this:
    Since when is a border-related humanitarian crisis a big deal?
    It's always been a big deal. The difference has been in how to deal w it without just moving it somewhere else.
    You're not making any sense. We've had a humanitarian crisis at the
    border ever since Joe took office. Thousands of people have died along
    the border since Joe took office. Thousands of unaccompanied minors have turned up at the border since Joe took office.

    The same happened under Trump.

    But it's not a "humanitarian crisis" unless "..a bunch of Venezuelans are coming!"

    It was a humanitarian crisis when Trump was separating families, too.

    (Warning: TDS causes mouth-diarhea!)

    I can tell. You should have that looked into.

    Jeff.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Oct 23 12:16:02 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Jeff Thiele <=-

    You're not making any sense.

    Well, it **is**Jeff.

    We've had a humanitarian crisis at the
    border ever since Joe took office. Thousands of people have died along
    the border since Joe took office. Thousands of unaccompanied minors
    have turned up at the border since Joe took office.

    "Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric or society as a whole." -- Thomas Sowell

    But it's not a "humanitarian crisis" unless "..a bunch of Venezuelans
    are coming!"

    They don't want them "seeking refuge" here in the U.S. because they will speak out about how Socialism ruins everything.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Sun Oct 23 14:30:33 2022
    Something is left unexplained about all this:
    Since when is a border-related humanitarian crisis a big de
    It's always been a big deal. The difference has been in how to d it without just moving it somewhere else.
    You're not making any sense. We've had a humanitarian crisis at the border ever since Joe took office. Thousands of people have died alon the border since Joe took office. Thousands of unaccompanied minors h turned up at the border since Joe took office.

    The same happened under Trump.

    Not at this volume. Not even close!

    But it's not a "humanitarian crisis" unless "..a bunch of Venezuelans coming!"

    It was a humanitarian crisis when Trump was separating families, too.

    But Biden enticed tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors to the border. He separated more families than Trump did, but he doesn't get the credit he deserves.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Oct 24 09:14:23 2022
    On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    It's always been a big deal. The difference has been in how it without just moving it somewhere else.
    You're not making any sense. We've had a humanitarian crisis at border ever since Joe took office. Thousands of people have died the border since Joe took office. Thousands of unaccompanied min turned up at the border since Joe took office.
    The same happened under Trump.
    Not at this volume. Not even close!

    Less people were let in under Trump, but the crisis itself was about the same size.

    But it's not a "humanitarian crisis" unless "..a bunch of Venezu coming!"
    It was a humanitarian crisis when Trump was separating families, too.
    But Biden enticed tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors to the
    border. He separated more families than Trump did, but he doesn't get
    the credit he deserves.

    Biden did not separate any families against their will. Trump did. And then couldn't even manage to put them all back together again. Trump's cruelty was cruelty for cruelty's sake, to act as a disincentive.

    Jeff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Ron L. on Mon Oct 24 05:04:14 2022
    "Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they
    claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric or society as a whole."

    That was good advice! But that philosophy comes naturally to me (probably to a lot of us. ) It's the leftists who need to listen to those words carefully though!

    But it's not a "humanitarian crisis" unless "..a bunch of Venezuelans are coming!"

    They don't want them "seeking refuge" here in the U.S. because they will speak out about how Socialism ruins everything.

    What you've said makes the most sense, but I've also considered that maybe Maduro has done something to offend the Biden regime, so now the Biden Regime is retaliating by refusing to take in Maduro's undesirables.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Mon Oct 24 17:10:02 2022
    border. He separated more families than Trump did, but he doesn't get the credit he deserves.

    Biden did not separate any families against their will. Trump did. And then couldn't even manage to put them all back together again. Trump's cruelty was cruelty for cruelty's sake, to act as a disincentive.

    Biden didn't ask for 10 thousand unaccompanied minors specifically, but his policies delivered those results. What's more sickening is the way he handled it by NOT handling it, not addressing it, and just ignoring it. It wasn't his kids swimming through that racial jungle of a river.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Oct 24 17:50:57 2022
    On 24 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    border. He separated more families than Trump did, but he doesn' the credit he deserves.
    Biden did not separate any families against their will. Trump did. An then couldn't even manage to put them all back together again. Trump' cruelty was cruelty for cruelty's sake, to act as a disincentive.
    Biden didn't ask for 10 thousand unaccompanied minors specifically, but his policies delivered those results. What's more sickening is the way
    he handled it by NOT handling it, not addressing it, and just ignoring
    it. It wasn't his kids swimming through that racial jungle of a river.

    People sending their kids away to seek asylum is an act of desperation.

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Mon Oct 24 18:39:00 2022
    But it's not a "humanitarian crisis" unless "..a bunch of Venezuelans are coming!"

    They don't want them "seeking refuge" here in the U.S. because they will speak
    out about how Socialism ruins everything.

    Same reason they don't want Cubans, either.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Tue Oct 25 01:32:02 2022
    it. It wasn't his kids swimming through that racial jungle of a river

    People sending their kids away to seek asylum is an act of desperation.

    They should be extradited to the USA to face charges of child abuse.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Oct 25 10:19:37 2022
    On 25 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    it. It wasn't his kids swimming through that racial jungle of a
    People sending their kids away to seek asylum is an act of desperatio
    They should be extradited to the USA to face charges of child abuse.

    No, they shouldn't. It's a very difficult decision for them.

    Jeff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Wed Oct 26 17:29:12 2022
    People sending their kids away to seek asylum is an act of despe
    They should be extradited to the USA to face charges of child abuse.

    No, they shouldn't. It's a very difficult decision for them.

    What's illegal for American citizens should also be illegal for Joe's guests.

    You've never made the decision, so you've got no authority to say "it's a very difficult decision." How much is "very?"

    If I decide to send my kid to swim to Mexico, because it's a better country than the USA, do you think CYS is going to say "Oh ya, we support Mr Thomas' decision because it was such a 'very' difficult decision for him to make." ?

    What if it was an "easy" decision? How would that make any difference?

    Full of it, you are!

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Oct 27 08:30:02 2022
    On 26 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    People sending their kids away to seek asylum is an act of
    They should be extradited to the USA to face charges of child ab
    No, they shouldn't. It's a very difficult decision for them.
    What's illegal for American citizens should also be illegal for Joe's guests.

    Things don't work that way, and it's a very different situation from "child abuse."

    You've never made the decision, so you've got no authority to say "it's
    a very difficult decision." How much is "very?"

    It's not a decision made lightly. I have had children, and I know that
    sending them alone on a journey to another country at a young age for a better life would be a difficult decision.

    If I decide to send my kid to swim to Mexico, because it's a better country than the USA, do you think CYS is going to say "Oh ya, we
    support Mr Thomas' decision because it was such a 'very' difficult decision for him to make." ?

    These parents are not under the jurisdiction of "CYS."

    What if it was an "easy" decision? How would that make any difference?

    It wouldn't, but it still would not be "child abuse."

    Full of it, you are!

    Nah, you're the one making stuff up.

    Jeff.

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