• EVs Disabled, Exploding

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALL on Sun Oct 9 11:12:00 2022
    SOURCE: FOX-13, Tampa Bay

    Electric vehicles are exploding from water damage after Hurricane Ian, Florida official warns

    A top Florida state official warned Thursday that firefighters have battled a number of fires caused by electric vehicle (EV) batteries waterlogged from Hurricane Ian.

    https://www.fox13news.com/news/electric-vehicles-are-exploding-from-water-damage
    -after-hurricane-ian

    https://tinyurl.com/3fnyxk73


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Sun Oct 9 13:53:38 2022
    On 09 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    Electric vehicles are exploding from water damage after Hurricane Ian, Florida official warns

    Fossil-fuel-powered vehicles also tend to become disable in floods, and have their own documented explosion risks in another type of "natural" disaster, namely wildfires.

    Also, the increases in the number and intensity of both hurricanes and wildfires has been shown to be the result of man-made climate change*, and fossil-fuel-powered vehicles are responsible for the release of far more greenhouse gasses and other pollutants than electric vehicles.

    * https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu/topics/sustainability/evidence-climate-chan ge
    (https://tinyurl.com/4kvyfstc)

    Jeff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Sun Oct 9 16:26:34 2022
    Electric vehicles are exploding from water damage after Hurricane Ian, Florida official warns

    What kind of guy would I be if I encouraged all Americans to drive those?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Oct 10 16:56:00 2022
    Electric vehicles are exploding from water damage after Hurricane Ian, Florida official warns

    What kind of guy would I be if I encouraged all Americans to drive those?

    Sounds like folks near the coast need to be careful.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Mon Oct 10 17:02:00 2022
    Fossil-fuel-powered vehicles also tend to become disable in floods, and have their own documented explosion risks in another type of "natural" disaster, namely wildfires.

    Difference being that you can use a gas powered vehicle to escape either
    when the electric is out, and the gas powered vehicle explodes in the
    fires, when any living people have likely fled, not after the fires are
    gone.

    You also don't have to replace a "cost as much as a gas powered car"
    battery after a flood with a gas powered car. I know people who bought
    Katrina cars cheap, fixed them at little expense, and got several more
    years out of them. If they'd been EVs, there would be no such thing as
    "little expense."

    Also, the increases in the number and intensity of both hurricanes and wildfires has been shown to be the result of man-made climate change*, and fossil-fuel-powered vehicles are responsible for the release of far more greenhouse gasses and other pollutants than electric vehicles.

    And most of them are being charged by fossil-fueled power plants.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Mon Oct 10 18:05:53 2022
    On 10 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    Fossil-fuel-powered vehicles also tend to become disable in floods, and their own documented explosion risks in another type of "natural" disast namely wildfires.
    Difference being that you can use a gas powered vehicle to escape either when the electric is out,

    With the range of modern electric vehicles, one can still escape a wildfire
    or a flood, especially if one does not wait until the last minute. Additionally, one might not take all of one's vehicles with.

    and the gas powered vehicle explodes in the
    fires, when any living people have likely fled, not after the fires are gone.

    People often wait until the fires are on their doorstep, attempting to keep
    it at bay with garden hoses or fire breaks, etc., before fleeing. Others
    don't, just as many people heed warnings and evacuate, waiting until flooding has subsided to return.

    You also don't have to replace a "cost as much as a gas powered car" battery after a flood with a gas powered car. I know people who bought Katrina cars cheap, fixed them at little expense, and got several more years out of them. If they'd been EVs, there would be no such thing as "little expense."

    That would depend on your level of insurance. The depth of the floodwaters is
    a fairly important consideration as well.

    Also, the increases in the number and intensity of both hurricanes and wildfires has been shown to be the result of man-made climate change*, a fossil-fuel-powered vehicles are responsible for the release of far more greenhouse gasses and other pollutants than electric vehicles.
    And most of them are being charged by fossil-fueled power plants.

    Some, but not all.

    Jeff.

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