• Trump Counties Recovering Better

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to All on Thu Oct 6 19:00:12 2022
    Trump-supporting counties are doing better recovering jobs than those that voted for Biden

    Source: CBS NEWS

    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/job-growth-in-trump-voting-counties-in-the-bid en-economy/?fbclid=IwAR0pXdoOomWuW9xBHCG32HjviKTLsE-nw8o7YJNpINGINqvfJ2IbgC91RP A#app

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    "Counties around the U.S. where a majority of voters supported former President Donald Trump in the 2020 election are regaining their lost jobs under President Joe Biden more quickly than counties that voted in favor of the current president, according to a new analysis of labor data.

    "Through the end of the first quarter, Trump-supporting counties have regained nearly all the jobs they lost when the pandemic first slammed the economy in March of 2020, with employment just 0.3%, or 124,000 jobs, short of where it was prior to the COVID-19 crisis, the Economic Innovation Group found. Counties where a majority of residents voted for Biden had a deficit of 1.7 million jobs rCo 1.8% short of pre-pandemic levels rCo by the end of the first quarter of 2022."

    They go on to draw the conclusion that this is because blue areas have higher populations and therefore lost more jobs which, of course, ignores that they are comparing percentages of lost jobs recovered and not total populations.

    I am guessing it is more likely state and local policies in these areas that are helping in their faster recovery.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 6 20:06:37 2022
    On 06 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    Trump-supporting counties are doing better recovering jobs than those
    that voted for Biden
    They go on to draw the conclusion that this is because blue areas have higher populations and therefore lost more jobs which, of course,
    ignores that they are comparing percentages of lost jobs recovered and
    not total populations.
    I am guessing it is more likely state and local policies in these areas that are helping in their faster recovery.

    Areas with higher populations also have higher population densities, which implies that they are urban vs. rural and, as such, have different *types* of jobs.

    Jeff.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 6 21:28:17 2022
    On 06 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...

    They go on to draw the conclusion that this is because blue areas have higher populations and therefore lost more jobs which, of course,
    ignores that they are comparing percentages of lost jobs recovered and
    not total populations.
    Blue areas have more squaller, because most if not all continue to vote for the same democrats which have failed miserably. Their empty promises have not delivered anyone to deliverance. So the disparity continues and there is no hope for any of these people if they continue to vote for do nothing democrats.

    Crime is another big reason, there is no consequence for crime.
    Have a plan to do the following.
    1. This starts with accountability.
    1A This means having a mayor who supports the police totally and completely and one that does not provide excuse after excuse as to why crime is worsening. Like Lori "beetlejuice" Lightfoot of Chicago, Illinois.
    2. There must a line of tolerance that is drawn and not crossed.
    3. Hire more police to protect and serve.
    4. Change the culture how police are viewed.
    5. Secure the city, clear up the filthy culture that exists within.
    Peace and tranquility will be within the their grasp.
    So tired of hearing it's just a few bad apples.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 7 00:57:02 2022
    On 10-06-22 19:00, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to All about Trump Counties Recovering <=-


    Trump-supporting counties are doing better recovering jobs than those
    that voted for Biden

    "Counties around the U.S. where a majority of voters
    supported former President
    Donald Trump in the 2020 election are regaining their lost
    jobs under President
    Joe Biden more quickly than counties that voted in favor of the
    current president, according to a new analysis of labor data.

    "Through the end of the first quarter, Trump-supporting counties have regained nearly all the jobs they lost when the pandemic first slammed
    the economy in March of 2020, with employment just 0.3%, or 124,000
    jobs, short of where it was prior to the COVID-19 crisis, the Economic Innovation Group found. Counties
    where a majority of residents voted for Biden had a deficit
    of 1.7 million jobs
    rCo 1.8% short of pre-pandemic levels rCo by the end of the first
    quarter of 2022."

    The numbers reported show an anomoly in the data that is hard to
    believe. If 124,000 is 0.3% the number of jobs prior to Covid in Trump counties, then that number of jobs is 41 million. If 1.7 million is
    1.8% of the number of jobs prior to Covid in Biden counties, then that
    number of jobs is 94 million. While it is beliveable that Biden
    counties had more jobs than Trump counties, It does not make a lot of
    sense that the ratio could be 2 to 1.

    I have no explanation, but there is something wrong with those numbers.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Fri Oct 7 17:19:00 2022
    On 06 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    Trump-supporting counties are doing better recovering jobs than those that voted for Biden
    They go on to draw the conclusion that this is because blue areas have higher populations and therefore lost more jobs which, of course, ignores that they are comparing percentages of lost jobs recovered and not total populations.
    I am guessing it is more likely state and local policies in these areas that are helping in their faster recovery.

    Areas with higher populations also have higher population densities, which implies that they are urban vs. rural and, as such, have different *types* of jobs.

    Urban areas are more likely to have high-tech jobs, which are more likely to allow you to work from home (even before the pandemic) and, in theory, should have been pandemic-resistant vs. jobs in smaller density areas.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Fri Oct 7 18:28:00 2022
    Crime is another big reason, there is no consequence for crime.

    I saw a clip of Jen Psaki the other day. She was saying that, if the
    midterms were a referrendum on Biden, they (the Democrats) would lose.
    She followed that statement with one about crime being a problem for
    Democrats.

    So Psaki agrees with you on that.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Fri Oct 7 17:26:00 2022
    The numbers reported show an anomoly in the data that is hard to
    believe. If 124,000 is 0.3% the number of jobs prior to Covid in Trump counties, then that number of jobs is 41 million. If 1.7 million is
    1.8% of the number of jobs prior to Covid in Biden counties, then that
    number of jobs is 94 million. While it is beliveable that Biden
    counties had more jobs than Trump counties, It does not make a lot of
    sense that the ratio could be 2 to 1.

    A lot of "Trump counties" are very rural, but that still does seem off. It
    is actually greater than 2 to 1.

    I have no explanation, but there is something wrong with those numbers.

    I didn't catch where CBS got them from. I will have to go back and look.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 7 18:24:46 2022
    On 07 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    I am guessing it is more likely state and local policies in these a that are helping in their faster recovery.
    Areas with higher populations also have higher population densities, whi implies that they are urban vs. rural and, as such, have different *type jobs.
    Urban areas are more likely to have high-tech jobs, which are more
    likely to allow you to work from home (even before the pandemic) and, in theory, should have been pandemic-resistant vs. jobs in smaller density areas.

    That is true, but that is not the only difference. Urban areas are more
    likely to have office jobs in general, and far fewer agricure-related jobs.

    Jeff.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 7 21:59:48 2022
    I saw a clip of Jen Psaki the other day. She was saying that, if the midterms were a referrendum on Biden, they (the Democrats) would lose.
    She followed that statement with one about crime being a problem for Democrats.

    So Psaki agrees with you on that.
    Yea, I saw that she said that and the media said that she was stabbing him in the back. Psaki would be defiant as ever if she was still the press
    secretary, just as the current lackey is.
    I am heading down to Washington, D.C. at the end of the month. I will pass on The White House tour, heading down to see Iron Maiden at the Capital One
    Arena on the 23rd of the October and thank God there is no covid-19 vaccine requirement.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Sat Oct 8 10:33:00 2022
    Urban areas are more likely to have high-tech jobs, which are more likely to allow you to work from home (even before the pandemic) and, in theory, should have been pandemic-resistant vs. jobs in smaller density areas.

    That is true, but that is not the only difference. Urban areas are more likely to have office jobs in general, and far fewer agricure-related jobs.

    Many/most office jobs should be able to be done work from home. Now,
    whether or not the employer realizes that, and whether or not they can
    adapt their management skills (or lack thereof) for that is another story entirely.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Sat Oct 8 10:40:00 2022
    I saw a clip of Jen Psaki the other day. She was saying that, if the midterms were a referrendum on Biden, they (the Democrats) would lose. She followed that statement with one about crime being a problem for Democrats.

    So Psaki agrees with you on that.
    Yea, I saw that she said that and the media said that she was stabbing him in the back. Psaki would be defiant as ever if she was still the press secretary, just as the current lackey is.

    She was just being honest. She knows what all she was asked about, and
    what all she had to BS about, while she was press secretary, so she knows better. On the other hand, I saw another clip where a fellow journalist
    was debating her on the merits of the Democrats throwing a lot of money
    behind Republican candidates, that they believe could not win in a general election, in Republican primaries.

    Psaki did not really see the problem in that tactic. The other journalist (male, name escapes me) was debating that this could backfire on the
    Democrats, causing fringe Republican candidates to win offices, including
    seats in Congress. He may have also hinted (or it may be my bias towards
    this tactic) that he thought it was a way of cheating.

    A Democrat will tell you that if it is legal, it is not cheating, but I
    don't fully agree with that. I also don't doubt that some of the more
    fringe right wing congresspeople they complain about were accidentally elected with their monetary assistance. That is probably where the "Soros does not always back Democrats" money goes (into primaries for this strategy).

    As a Republican, I would be pretty upset if the GOP backed Democrat
    candidates in primaries that wound up winning in November. I would think Democrats would be also.

    I am heading down to Washington, D.C. at the end of the month. I will pass on The White House tour, heading down to see Iron Maiden at the Capital One Arena on the 23rd of the October and thank God there is no covid-19 vaccine requirement.

    Hope you enjoy them. I never really got into Maiden but had plenty of
    friends who like(d) them.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Sat Oct 8 13:01:09 2022
    On 08 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    That is true, but that is not the only difference. Urban areas are more likely to have office jobs in general, and far fewer agricure-related jo
    Many/most office jobs should be able to be done work from home. Now, whether or not the employer realizes that, and whether or not they can adapt their management skills (or lack thereof) for that is another story entirely.

    Many, but not all. Additionally, many office jobs support other jobs as well. Consider a manufacturing company, for example. It might have a CEO, a secretary, a CFO, etc. Sure, those jobs could be done from home, but there
    are other jobs that can't, such as the floor workers, floor managers, etc. If the company has to lay off the floor workers, what's left for the office personnel to do? They'll lose their jobs as well, regardless of whether they could work from home or not. A lot of businesses shut down during the
    pandemic, and I would argue that they were more centered in urban areas than rural.

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Sun Oct 9 10:29:00 2022
    personnel to do? They'll lose their jobs as well, regardless of whether they could work from home or not. A lot of businesses shut down during the pandemic, and I would argue that they were more centered in urban areas than rural.

    Because the policies on shut downs were different? I did speculate that policies in red vs. blue areas were different.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Sun Oct 9 11:05:54 2022
    On 09 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    personnel to do? They'll lose their jobs as well, regardless of whether could work from home or not. A lot of businesses shut down during the pandemic, and I would argue that they were more centered in urban areas rural.
    Because the policies on shut downs were different? I did speculate that policies in red vs. blue areas were different.

    Perhaps, or perhaps because the pandemic itself had an adverse effect on
    their business. Perhaps their business catered to a want rather than a need,
    an people just weren't going out in public as much to justify their existence.

    Jeff.

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