• Manchin Sucks

    From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to All on Wed Jul 27 23:57:28 2022
    Joe Manchin came to an agreement with Chuck Schumer about the the big spending bill. This sucks. I knew Joe Manchin was full of it. Watch them waste all this money now instead of addressing the issue of housing the illegal immigrants
    and the refugees.

    All the sense I can make from it is that George Soros must have convinced Joe Manchin to sign the bill.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Jul 28 16:51:00 2022
    Joe Manchin came to an agreement with Chuck Schumer about the the big spending
    bill. This sucks. I knew Joe Manchin was full of it. Watch them waste all this
    money now instead of addressing the issue of housing the illegal immigrants and the refugees.

    All the sense I can make from it is that George Soros must have convinced Joe Manchin to sign the bill.

    The news stories I have read, including one on FOX, makes it sound like the rest of the Democrats were willing to compromise and the result is a bill
    that is not as "green" as it previously was, which Manchin believes will protect jobs in Appalachia.

    OTOH, it also spends a lot of money, but Manchin claims it will help
    inflation. I think there is a contradiction there somewhere.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Fri Jul 29 08:15:11 2022
    Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

    OTOH, it also spends a lot of money, but Manchin claims it will help inflation. I think there is a contradiction there somewhere.

    The Ignorant Elitists have no concept of basic economics.


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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jul 28 09:15:54 2022
    BY: Aaron Thomas(1:275/99)


    Joe Manchin came to an agreement with Chuck Schumer about the the big spending
    bill. This sucks. I knew Joe Manchin was full of it. Watch them waste
    all this
    And I hope he is defeated in 2024.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Fri Jul 29 05:10:26 2022
    OTOH, it also spends a lot of money, but Manchin claims it will help inflation. I think there is a contradiction there somewhere.

    Manchin is full of it. He just neeed to let the jackpot climb a bit more. There's no mention in Fox News' account as to where the money is actually
    going to go. Rebates for buttheads who buy electric cars?? That's not worth it for me. Me, a guy who won't afford an electric car in my lifetime, shouldn't have to see a tax increase just because mr fancypants from down the block
    wants to upgrade to a Tesla, and he'll get a $7500 tax break? What good does thi so for the community? Is the media allowed to even ask?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Matt Munson on Fri Jul 29 15:07:44 2022
    Joe Manchin came to an agreement with Chuck Schumer about the the big spending
    bill. This sucks. I knew Joe Manchin was full of it. Watch them waste all this
    And I hope he is defeated in 2024.

    Cobwebs on peoples' brains will make conservatives say "He's that good Democrat who tried to help the conservatives." But heck yea, I hope he's defeated also. Big fakers really suck. Hundreds of billions of dollars wasted while obvious new expenses are under our noses.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Jul 29 14:56:00 2022
    OTOH, it also spends a lot of money, but Manchin claims it will help inflation. I think there is a contradiction there somewhere.

    Manchin is full of it. He just neeed to let the jackpot climb a bit more. There's no mention in Fox News' account as to where the money is actually going to go. Rebates for buttheads who buy electric cars?? That's not worth it
    for me. Me, a guy who won't afford an electric car in my lifetime, shouldn't have to see a tax increase just because mr fancypants from down the block wants to upgrade to a Tesla, and he'll get a $7500 tax break? What good does thi so for the community? Is the media allowed to even ask?

    The people who would get such tax breaks are, as you pointed out, likely to already have money, but yet you don't see anyone on the left complaining
    about the rich getting a tax break on that one, do you?


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Matt Munson on Sat Jul 30 00:16:20 2022
    Hello Matt,

    Joe Manchin came to an agreement with Chuck Schumer about the the big
    spending
    bill. This sucks. I knew Joe Manchin was full of it. Watch them waste
    all this

    And I hope he is defeated in 2024.

    Joe Manchin is running for president???

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Jul 30 07:52:39 2022
    BY: Lee Lofaso(2:203/2)


    And I hope he is defeated in 2024.

    Joe Manchin is running for president???
    His re-election term for senate is that year


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Sat Jul 30 04:52:57 2022
    wants to upgrade to a Tesla, and he'll get a $7500 tax break? What good thi so for the community? Is the media allowed to even ask?

    The people who would get such tax breaks are, as you pointed out, likely to already have money, but yet you don't see anyone on the left complaining about the rich getting a tax break on that one, do you?

    They probably think they're doing the right thing because the electric cars
    are going to cure the earth of global warming.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Matt Munson on Sat Jul 30 13:32:07 2022
    On 30 Jul 2022, Matt Munson said the following...

    BY: Lee Lofaso(2:203/2)


    And I hope he is defeated in 2024.

    Joe Manchin is running for president???
    His re-election term for senate is that year


    I heard he was bought off with a pipeline in his state... He did a 180 and I'm sure Biden didn't negotiate his replacement when he has the best vice president ever elected in American history... EVER... Biden will run again in 2024 with Harris and get more than 81,000,000 votes !!!

    It'll be awesome!!!

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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Ib Joe on Sat Jul 30 23:29:24 2022
    BY: IB Joe(1:342/200)


    vice president ever elected in American history... EVER... Biden will
    run again in 2024 with Harris and get more than 81,000,000 votes !!!
    Those people need lobotomies. I think Biden would of done better with Val Demmings as VP.



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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sun Jul 31 08:42:05 2022
    Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

    The people who would get such tax breaks are, as you pointed out,
    likely to already have money, but yet you don't see anyone on the left complaining about the rich getting a tax break on that one, do you?

    Reminds me of Osama's disasterous "cash for clunkers" ploy.

    Rich people, who could afford to get a new car, traded in their old one - which was destroyed - for a new one. Win for the rich!

    Poor people, who can't afford to get a new car, found the prices of used cars go up - because the "cash for clunkers" cars were destroyed. Supply down, price up - Economics 101 (which all these Lefties failed, it seems). So the poor were stuck with their increasingly unreliable car and no way to get a better one. Lose for the poor.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 31 08:42:05 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    They probably think they're doing the right thing because the electric cars are going to cure the earth of global warming.

    I just saw a coal train with over 100 cars of electric car fuel roll by.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Matt Munson on Sun Jul 31 08:42:05 2022
    Matt Munson wrote to Ib Joe <=-

    Those people need lobotomies.

    They've already had them. They vote Democrat.

    I think Biden would of done better with
    Val Demmings as VP.

    Harris was the "insurance" that Biden would never be removed from office. No one wants the cackling moron as president - even the Democrats.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Jul 31 09:46:00 2022
    The people who would get such tax breaks are, as you pointed out, likely to already have money, but yet you don't see anyone on the left complaining about the rich getting a tax break on that one, do you?

    They probably think they're doing the right thing because the electric cars are going to cure the earth of global warming.

    Yes, burning all the extra coal to power them will sure help with global warming.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sun Jul 31 10:05:00 2022
    The people who would get such tax breaks are, as you pointed out,
    likely to already have money, but yet you don't see anyone on the left complaining about the rich getting a tax break on that one, do you?

    Reminds me of Osama's disasterous "cash for clunkers" ploy.

    Rich people, who could afford to get a new car, traded in their old one - whic
    was destroyed - for a new one. Win for the rich!

    I actually know someone who was not so rich who held onto an older car just
    to try to take advantage of the program. They, a Democrat, were very dissappointed that they were not going to get what they thought out of it.
    They eventually got more money from someone willing to come get it and tow
    it off after it stopped running.

    Poor people, who can't afford to get a new car, found the prices of used cars go up - because the "cash for clunkers" cars were destroyed. Supply down, price up - Economics 101 (which all these Lefties failed, it seems). So the poor were stuck with their increasingly unreliable car and no way to get a better one. Lose for the poor.

    It sure did drive prices up! I wondered if that was not part of their
    ploy, though.

    I remember some years during the Obama administration where the economy
    would get a little sluggish. There would be a "leak" that parts of the administration that would not normally need ammunition of any kind was
    buying it all up. Then there was a big consumer run on it, shortages,
    etc., but I think that was the point there, too. Get people to stock up thinking there is a shortage, which stimulates the economy, and also
    creates a shortage.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 30 09:50:00 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    fancypants from down the block wants to upgrade to a Tesla, and he'll
    get a $7500 tax break? What good does thi so for the community? Is the media allowed to even ask?

    California is now saying you can have an HOV sticker or the tax credit, but not both. It's a step in the right direction.

    Full Disclosure: I drive a plug-in Prius.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Matt Munson on Sun Jul 31 21:02:05 2022
    Hello Matt,

    And I hope he is defeated in 2024.

    Joe Manchin is running for president???

    His re-election term for senate is that year

    Who says he will even bother to run for US Senate?
    Although Manchin says he is planning to run for a
    third term in the US Senate, things could change.
    With the incumbent president likely to retire,
    Manchin might go for the grand prize. Especially
    with the other side not having a credible candidate.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Kurt Weiske on Sun Jul 31 09:33:15 2022
    BY: Kurt Weiske(1:218/700)


    California is now saying you can have an HOV sticker or the tax credit,
    but
    not both. It's a step in the right direction.

    Full Disclosure: I drive a plug-in Prius.
    Maybe have people under a certain income to have both, but if you make more than the income you have to choose between both options.


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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jul 31 23:19:32 2022
    BY: Lee Lofaso(2:203/2)


    With the incumbent president likely to retire,
    Manchin might go for the grand prize. Especially
    with the other side not having a credible candidate.
    I'll vote for DeSantis before Manchin.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 1 08:25:51 2022
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    It sure did drive prices up! I wondered if that was not part of their ploy, though.

    I know too many people who either had to go without a car, or keep their increasingly unreliable car longer because used prices were so far up.

    I find it hard to believe that it wasn't part of their ploy. Under the guise of "getting big polluters off the streets", they actually reduced the availability of cars for a good section of the population: Which has been the "green" sect's plan for a long time now.

    But in this case, they didn't lie. They did get cars off the streets, but they hurt the lower classes the most while benefiting the upper classes.

    I remember some years during the Obama administration where the economy would get a little sluggish. There would be a "leak" that parts of the administration that would not normally need ammunition of any kind was buying it all up. Then there was a big consumer run on it, shortages, etc., but I think that was the point there, too. Get people to stock
    up thinking there is a shortage, which stimulates the economy, and also creates a shortage.

    They do many little things to steer the sheeple into believing their propaganda.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Ron L. on Mon Aug 1 16:14:54 2022
    Val Demmings as VP.

    Harris was the "insurance" that Biden would never be removed from
    office. No one wants the cackling moron as president - even the Democrats.

    I suspect that all the "Biden's cognitive decline" discussions in the media
    are designed to be used as a talking point for Kamala. "Joe couldn't fix anything because he's a white cracker with dementia, so now I'll make all your handout dreams come true."

    "Kamala's intentions were hindered by the oppressive white man, now we must help her break those chains!"

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 1 16:22:09 2022
    They probably think they're doing the right thing because the electric c are going to cure the earth of global warming.

    Yes, burning all the extra coal to power them will sure help with global warming.

    If the media doesn't talk about it, then it doesn't exist. Voters are lousy at math (worse than me.)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Aug 1 16:38:07 2022
    fancypants from down the block wants to upgrade to a Tesla, and he'll get a $7500 tax break? What good does thi so for the community? Is th media allowed to even ask?

    California is now saying you can have an HOV sticker or the tax credit, but not both. It's a step in the right direction.

    So then motorists who already have the HOV sticker - what do they get out of this? Cleaner air? Less money to have to take to the bank?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Mon Aug 1 16:05:00 2022
    But in this case, they didn't lie. They did get cars off the streets, but
    he
    hurt the lower classes the most while benefiting the upper classes.

    They do that a lot more than they would want to admit, even if that is what they mean to do.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Tue Aug 2 08:34:23 2022
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    But in this case, they didn't lie. They did get cars off the streets, but hurt the lower classes the most while benefiting the upper classes.

    They do that a lot more than they would want to admit, even if that is what they mean to do.

    Nearly everything the Ignorant Elitists do hurts the people they claim to be trying to help. And that's nothing new.

    Sometimes they are well aware of the negative impact of their policies. Other times they honestly believe that they will work. That's why other ignorants can't see through their BS.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Matt Munson on Mon Aug 1 08:06:00 2022
    Matt Munson wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Maybe have people under a certain income to have both, but if you make more than the income you have to choose between both options.

    That's a lot of paperwork, with a lot of opportunity to fudge the system.



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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Aug 2 07:49:00 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    So then motorists who already have the HOV sticker - what do they get
    out of this? Cleaner air? Less money to have to take to the bank?

    The tax credit is a one-time thing, the HOV stickers are good for 5 years
    now.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Matt Munson on Tue Aug 2 11:38:55 2022
    On 30 Jul 2022, Matt Munson said the following...
    Those people need lobotomies. I think Biden would of done better with Val Demmings as VP.

    Or maybe a retirement home...

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Matt Munson on Wed Aug 3 02:30:40 2022
    Hello Matt,

    With the incumbent president likely to retire,
    Manchin might go for the grand prize. Especially
    with the other side not having a credible candidate.

    I'll vote for DeSantis before Manchin.

    In a hypothetical matchup for president between DeSantis and Manchin,
    which would make for a much more exciting race than a rematch between
    Trump and Biden, that might be your favorite candidate. But there are
    other candidates who will be on the ballot. Including Andrew Yang,
    who formed a new third party. And you know what that means. The first
    elected Asian President of the United States, his first act being
    guaranteed universal income for all ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Matt Munson on Wed Aug 3 02:30:56 2022
    Hello Matt,

    With the incumbent president likely to retire,
    Manchin might go for the grand prize. Especially
    with the other side not having a credible candidate.

    I'll vote for DeSantis before Manchin.

    Another loser, playing second fiddle to your orange clown.

    For Life,
    Lee

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