• January 6 speech

    From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Jeff Thiele on Tue Jun 21 22:21:52 2022
    Since there has been so much talk about Trump's words on January 6th
    Here is what the man actually said.


    TRUMP: Media will not show the magnitude of this crowd. Even I, when I turned on today, I looked, and I saw thousands of people here, but you don't see hundreds of thousands of people behind you because they don't want to show that. We have hundreds of thousands of people here, and I just want them to be recognized by the fake news media. Turn your cameras, please, and show what is really happening out here, because these people are not going to take it any longer, they're not going to take it any longer. Go ahead, turn your cameras, please. Would you show they came from all over the world actually, but they came from all over our country. I just really want to see what they do. I just want to see how they cover it. I've never seen anything like it, but it would be really great if we could be covered fairly by the media. The media is the biggest problem we have as far as I'm concerned, single biggest problem.

    The fake news and the big tech, big tech, is now coming into their own. We
    beat them four years ago, we surprised them. We took him by surprise and this year they rigged an election, they rigged it like they have never rigged an election before, and by the way, last night, they didn't do a bad job either, if you notice. I am honest, and I just again, I want to thank you. It's just a great honor to have this kind of crowd and to be before you and hundreds of thousands of American patriots who are committed to the honesty of our elections and the integrity of our glorious Republic. All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by bold and radical left Democrats, which is what they are doing, and stolen by the
    fake news media. That is what they have done and what they are doing. We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen. You don't concede
    when there's theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore, and that is what this is all about.

    And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we
    will stop the steal. Today I will lay out just some of the evidence proving that we won this election and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election. You know I say sometimes jokingly, but there's no joke about it. I have been in two elections. I won them both and the second one I won much bigger than the first, okay? Almost 75 million people voted for our campaign, the most of any incumbent president by far in the history of our country; 12 million more than four years ago.
    And I was told by the real pollsters; we do have real pollsters. They know
    that we were going to do well and we were going to win. What I was told, if I went from 63 million, which we had four years ago, to 66 million, there was no chance of losing. Well, we didn't go to 66, we went to 75 million, and they say we lost. We didn't lose. And by the way, does anybody believe that Joe had 80 million votes? Does anybody believe that?
    He had 80 million computer votes. It's a disgrace. There's never been
    anything like that. You can take Third World countries, just take a look,
    take Third World countries, their elections are more honest than what we have been going through in this country. It's a disgrace. It's a disgrace.
    Even when you look at last night, they were all running around like chickens with their heads cut off with boxes, and nobody knows what the hell is going on. There's never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We're not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.
    CROWD: Fight for Trump. Fight for Trump. Fight for Trump. Fight for Trump. Fight for Trump. Fight for Trump.
    TRUMP: Thank you.
    CROWD: Fight for Trump.
    TRUMP: And I would love to have, if those tens of thousands of people would
    be allowed, the military, the Secret Service and we want to thank you -- and the police and law enforcement -- great, you're doing a great job. But I
    would love it if they could be allowed to come up with us. Is that possible? Can you just let them, please? And Rudy, you did a great job. He's got guts. You know what? He's got guts, unlike a lot of people in the Republican Party, he's got guts, he fights, he fights. And I will tell you thank you very much, John [Eastman], fantastic job. I watched -- that's a tough act to follow those two. John is one of the most brilliant lawyers in the country and he looked at this, and he said what an absolute disgrace that this could be happening to
    our Constitution, and he looked at Mike Pence, and I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do -- all -- this is -- this is from the number one or certainly one of the top constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We're supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our Constitution and protect our Constitution. States want to revote, the states got defrauded. They were given false information, they voted on it. Now they want to recertify; they want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify, and we become president, and you are the happiest people.
    And I actually, I just spoke to Mike. I said, Mike, that doesn't take
    courage, what takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage, and then we are stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot, and we have to live with that for four more years. We're just not going to let that happen.
    Many of you have traveled from all across the nation to be here, and I want
    to thank you for the extraordinary love. That is what it is; there's never
    been a movement like this ever, ever for the extraordinary love for this amazing country. And this amazing movement. Thank you.
    CROWD: We love Trump. We love Trump. We love Trump. We love Trump. We love Trump. We love Trump. We love Trump. We love Trump. We love Trump.
    TRUMP: By the way, this goes all the way back past the Washington Monument.
    Do you believe this? Look at this. Unfortunately, they gave the press the
    prime seats. I can't stand that. No, but you look at that behind. I wish they would flip those cameras and look behind you. That is the most amazing site. When they make a mistake, you get to see it on television, amazing. Amazing. All of the way back and don't worry. We will not take the name off the Washington Monument. We will not. Cancel culture. They wanted to get rid of the Jefferson Memorial, either take it down or just put somebody else in there. I don't think that's going to happen. It damn well better not, even though with this administration if this happens, it could happen. You will see some really bad things happen. They will knock out Lincoln, too, by the way. They have been taking his statute down, but then we signed a little law, you hurt our monuments, you hurt our heroes, you go to jail for 10 years, and everything stopped. You notice that it stopped?
    It all stopped, and they could use Rudy back in New York City, Rudy.
    They could use you. Your city is going to hell. They want Rudy Giuliani back
    in New York. We will get a little younger version of Rudy. Is that okay,
    Rudy? We're gathered together in the heart of our nation's capital for one very, very basic and simple reason, to save our democracy.
    You know most candidates on election evening, and of course, this thing goes
    on so long they still don't have any idea what the votes are. We still have congressional seats under review. They have no idea. They have totally lost control; they have used the pandemic as a way of defrauding the people in a proper election, but you know, you know when you see this and when you see
    what is happening, number one they all say, sir, we will never let it happen again. I said that's good, but what about eight weeks ago?
    [*]TRUMP: You know they try and get you to go, they say, sir, in four years
    you are guaranteed. I said, I'm not interested right now. Do me a favor. Go back eight weeks. I want to go back eight weeks. Let's go back eight weeks.
    We want to go back, and we want to get this right, because we're going to
    have somebody in there that should not be in there, and our country will be destroyed. And we're not going to stand for that.
    For years, Democrats have gotten away with election fraud and weak
    Republicans. And that's what they are. There's so many weak Republicans. And
    we have great ones. Jim Jordan and some of these guys, they are out there fighting. The House guys are fighting, but it's -- it's incredible. Many of the Republicans, I helped them get in. I helped them get elected. I helped Mitch get elected. I helped -- I could name 24 of them, let's say. I won't bore you with it. And then all of a sudden, you have something like this. There is like oh, gee, maybe I'll talk to the president sometime later. No, it's amazing. The weak Republicans. They're pathetic Republicans, and that's what happens.
    If this happened to the Democrats, there'd be hell all over the country going on. There'd be hell all over the country. But just remember this, you're stronger, you're smarter. You've got more going than anybody, and they try and demean everybody having to do with us, and you're the real people. You're the people that built this nation.
    You're not the people that tore down our nation.
    The weak Republicans -- and that's it, I really believe it. I think I'm going to use the term. The weak Republicans. You've got a lot of them and you've
    got a lot of great ones. But you've got a lot of weak ones. They've turned a blind eye. Even as Democrats enacted policies that shipped away our jobs, weakened our military, threw open our borders, and put America last. Did you see the other day where Joe Biden said I want to get rid of the America-first policy. What's that all about? Get rid of -- how do you say I want to get rid of America first? Even if you're going to do it, don't talk about it, right? (LAUGHTER)
    Unbelievable, what we have to go through. What we have to go through -- and
    you have to get your people to fight. And if they don't fight, we have to primary the hell out of the ones that don't fight. We primary them.
    We're going to -- we're going to let you know who they are. I can already
    tell you, frankly. But this year, using the pretext of the China virus and
    the scam of mail-in ballots, Democrats attempted the most brazen and
    outrageous election theft. And there's never been anything like this. It's a pure theft in American history. Everybody knows it.
    That election, our election was over at 10 in the evening. We're leading Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia. By hundreds of thousands of votes, and then late in the evening or early in the morning, boom. These explosions of bullshit, and all of the sudden -- -- all of a sudden, it started to happen. CROWD: Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit.
    TRUMP: Don't forget, when Romney got beat -- Romney. Did you see his --
    I wonder if he enjoyed his flight in last night.
    But when Romney got beat, you know, he stands up like your more typical -- well, I'd like to congratulate the victor. The victor. Who was the victor, Mitt? I'd like to congratulate. They don't go in and look at the facts. Oh, I don't know. You've got -- he got slaughtered, probably. Maybe it was okay, maybe it was -- that's what happened. But we look at the facts, and our election was so corrupt that in the history of this country, we've never seen anything like it. You could go all the way back. You know, America is blessed with elections. All over the world they talk about our elections. You know what the world says about us now? They said we don't have free and fair elections. And you know what else? We don't have a free and fair press. Our media is not free, it's not fair. It's suppresses thought. It suppresses speech, and it's become the enemy of the people. It's become the enemy of the people. It's a -- it's the biggest problem we have in this country. No Third World countries would even attempt to do what we caught them doing. And you'll hear about that in just a few minutes. Republicans are -- Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It's like a boxer. And we want to be so nice. We want to be so respectful of everybody,
    including bad people. And we're going to have to fight much harder. And Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us. And if he doesn't, that will
    be a sad day for our country because you're sworn to uphold our Constitution. Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down and I'll be there with you. We're going to walk down -- -- we're going to walk down. Anyone you want, but I
    think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol -- -- and we're
    going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. (LAUGHTER) Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated. Lawfully slated.

    I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building
    to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today, we will see whether Republicans stand strong for the integrity of our elections. But whether or not they stand strong for our country -- our country, our country has been under siege for a long time. Far longer than this four-year period. We set it on a much straighter course, a much -- and we -- I thought, you
    know, four more years. I thought it would be easy. We created the greatest economy in history. We rebuilt our military. We get you the biggest tax cuts
    in history, right? We got the biggest regulation cuts. There is no president, whether it's four years, eight years, or in one case more got anywhere near the regulation cuts. It used to take 20 years to get the highway approved. Now we're down to two. I want to get it down to one, but we're down to two. And it may get rejected for environmental or safety reasons, but we got it down, the safety. We created Space Force. We -- and look what we did. Our military has been totally rebuilt. So we create Space Force, which by and of itself is a major achievement for an administration. And with us, it's one of so many different things.
    Right to try. Everybody know about right to try. We did things that nobody
    ever thought possible. We took care of our vets. Our vets. The VA now has the highest rating. 91 percent. The highest rating that it's had from the beginning. 91 percent approval rate rating. Always, you watch the VA. It was
    on television. Every night, people living in a horrible, horrible manner. We got that done and we got accountability done. We got it so that now in the VA, you don't have to wait for four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks, four months to see a doctor. If you can't get a doctor, you go outside, you get the doctor, you have him taken care of, and we pay the doctor. And we've not only made
    life wonderful for so many people, we've saved tremendous amounts of money, secondarily. But we've saved a lot of money. And now we have the right to
    fire bad people in the VA. We had 9,000 people they treated our veterans horribly. In prime time, they would not have treated our veterans badly.
    But they treated our veterans horribly and we have what's called the account
    -- VA Accountability Act. And the accountability says if we see somebody in there that doesn't treat our vets well or they steal, they rob, they do things badly, we say Joe, you're fired. Get out of here. Before, you couldn't do that. You couldn't do that before. So we've taken care of things. We've done things like nobody's ever thought possible, and that's part of the reason
    that many people don't like us because we've done too much. But we've done
    it quickly. And we were going to sit home and watch a big victory and
    everybody had us down for a victory. It was going to be great. And now we're out here fighting. I said to somebody, I was going to take a few days and relax after our big electoral victory. 10:00, it was over and I was going to take a few days. And I can say this. Since our election, I believe -- which
    was such a catastrophe when I watched, and even these guys knew what happened. They know what happened. They're saying wow. Pennsylvania is insurmountable. Wow. Wisconsin. Look at the big leads we had, right?
    Even, you know, the press said we're going to lose Wisconsin by 17 points.
    Even though the press said Ohio's going to be close, we set a record.
    Florida's going to be close. We set a record. Texas is going to be close.

    Texas is going to be close. We set a record. And we set a record with Hispanics, with the Black community. We set a record with everybody.

    Today, we see a very important event, though, because right over there, right there, we see the event that's going to take place, and I'm going to be watching because history
    is going to be made. We're going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders or whether or not we have leaders that should be ashamed
    of themselves throughout history, throughout eternity. They'll be ashamed. And you know what? If they do the wrong thing, we should never, ever forget that they did. Never forget. We should never, ever forget. With only three of the seven states in question, we win the presidency of the United States. And, by the way, it's much more important today than it was 24 hours ago because --
    and don't -- I spoke to David Perdue. What a great person. And Kelly Loeffler, two great people. But it was a setup and you know, I said we have no back line anymore. The only back line, the only line of demarcation, the only line that we have is the veto of the president of the United States. So, this is now, what we're doing, a far more important election than it was two days ago.
    I want to thank the more than 140 members of the House. Those are warriors. They're over there working like you've never seen before, studying, talking, actually going all the way back studying the roots of the Constitution because they know we have the
    right to send a bad vote that was illegally gotten.
    They gave these people bad things to vote for and they voted, because what
    did they know. And then, when they found out a few weeks later, again, it
    took them four years to devise this great -- and the only unhappy person in
    the United States, single most unhappy, is Hillary Clinton, because she said, "Why didn't you do this for me four years ago?"
    (LAUGHTER)
    "Why didn't you do this for me four years ago? Change the votes, 10,000 in Michigan. You could have changed the whole thing." But she's not too happy. You notice, she -- you don't see her anymore. What happened? Where's Hillary? Where is she? But I want to thank all of those congressmen and women. I also want to thank our 13 most courageous members of the U.S. Senate, Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Ron Johnson -- Senator Josh Hawley, Kelly Loeffler. And, Kelly Loeffler, I'll tell you, she has been -- she has been so great. She works so hard, so let's give her and David a little special hand, because it was rigged against them. Let's give her and David -- Kelly Loeffler, David Perdue.

    They fought a good race. They never had a shot. That equipment should never have been allowed to be used. And, I was telling these people, "Don't let
    them use this stuff." Marsha Blackburn, terrific person, Mike Braun, Indiana, Steve Daines, great guy, Bill Hagerty, John Kennedy, James Lankford, Cynthia Lummis, Tommy Tuberville, the coach, and Roger Marshall. We want to thank
    them. Senators have stepped up. We want to thank them.

    I actually think, though, it takes, again, more courage not to step up and I think a lot of those people are going to find that out. And you better start looking at your leadership because your leadership has led you down the tubes. You know, "We don't want to give $2,000 to people. We want to give them
    $600." Oh, great. How does that play politically? Pretty good? And this has nothing to do with politics, but how does it play politically?
    China destroyed these people. We didn't destroy them. China destroyed them, totally destroyed them. "We want to give them $600," and they just wouldn't change. I said, "Give them $2,000, we'll pay it back, we'll pay it back fast. You already owe $26 trillion. Give them a couple of bucks. Let them live. Give them a couple of bucks."

    And, some of the people here disagree with me on that, but I -- I just say, look, you've got to let people live. And, how does that play, though? Okay, number one, it's the right thing to do. But, how does that play politically? I think it's the primary reason -- one of the primary reasons, the other was just pure cheating -- that was the primary -- super primary reason. But you can't do that. You've got to use your head. As you know, the media has constantly asserted the outrageous lie that there was no evidence of widespread fraud.
    You ever see these people? "While there's no evidence of fraud." Oh, really? Well, I'm going to read you pages. I hope you don't get bored listening to it. Promise? Don't get bored listening to it, all those
    hundreds of thousands of people back there. Move them up, please. Yeah. All they -- all these people, don't get bored. Don't get angry at me because
    you're going to get bored, because it's so much. The American people
    do not believe the corrupt fake news anymore. They have ruined their reputation.

    But you know, it used to be that they'd argue with me. I'd fight. So, I'd fight, they'd fight, I'd fight, they'd fight, bump, bump, you'd believe me, you'd believe them. Somebody comes out. You know, they had their point of
    view, I had my point of view. But you'd have an argument.
    Now what they do is they go silent. It's called suppression and that's what happens in a communist country. That's what they do. They suppress. You don't fight with them anymore unless it's a bad story. If they have a little bad story about me, they make it ten times worse and it's a major headline. But Hunter Biden, they don't talk about him. What happened to Hunter? Where's Hunter? Where is Hunter? They don't talk about him.

    Now watch, all the sets will go off. Well, they can't do that because they
    get good ratings. Their ratings are too good. Now, where's Hunter, you know? And -- and how come Joe was allowed to give $1 billion of money to get rid of the prosecutor in Ukraine? How does that happen? I'd ask you that question. How does that happen? Can you imagine if I said that? If I said that, it would be a whole different ballgame. And, how come Hunter gets 3½ million dollars from the mayor of Moscow's wife and gets hundreds of thousands of dollars to sit on an energy board even though he admits he has no knowledge of energy and millions of dollars upfront? And how come they go into China and they leave with billions of dollars to manage?
    "Have you managed money before?" "No, I haven't." "Oh, that's good, here's about $3 billion." No, they don't talk about that. No, we have a corrupt
    media. They've gone silent. They've gone dead. I now realize how good it was, if you go back 10 years. I realize how good -- even though I didn't necessarily love them, I realize how good -- it was like a cleansing motion, right? But we don't have that anymore. We don't have a fair media anymore. It's suppression and you have to be very careful with that, and they've lost all credibility in this
    country.
    We will not be intimidated into accepting the hoaxes and the lies that we've been forced to believe. Over the past several weeks, we've amassed
    overwhelming evidence about a fake election. This is the presidential election. Last night was a little bit better because of the fact that we had a lot of eyes watching one specific state, but they cheated like hell anyway. You have one of the dumbest governors in the United States.
    (LAUGHTER)
    And, you know, when I endorsed him at -- I didn't know this guy -- at the request of David Perdue. He said, "A friend of mine is running for governor," "What's his name?" and you know the rest. He was in fourth place, fifth
    place. I don't know, he was way -- he was doing poorly. I endorsed him. He
    went like a rocket ship and he won. And then I had to beat Stacey Abrams with this guy, Brian Kemp. I had to beat Stacey Abrams and I had to beat Oprah,
    used to be a friend of mine. You know, I was on her last show, her last week. She picked the five outstanding people. I don't think she thinks that anymore. Once I ran for president, I didn't notice too many calls coming in from
    Oprah. Believe it or not, she used to like me. But I was one of the five outstanding people and I had
    to campaign against Michelle Obama and Barack Hussein Obama, against Stacey. (BOOING)
    And I had Brian Kemp who weighs 130 pounds. He said he played offensive line
    in football. I'm trying to figure that out. I'm still trying to figure that out. He said that the other night. "I was an offensive lineman." I'm saying, "Really? That must have been a very small team."
    (LAUGHTER)
    But I look at that and I look at what's happened and he turned out to be a disaster. This stuff happens. You know, look, I'm not happy with the Supreme Court. They love to rule against me. I picked three people. I fought like hell for them. One in particular I fought. They all said, "Sir, cut him loose, he's killing the senators." You know, very loyal senators. They're very loyal people. "Sir, cut him loose. He is killing us, sir. Cut him loose, sir." I
    will never -- I must have gotten half of these senators. I said no, I can't do that. It's unfair to him, and it's unfair to the family. He didn't do anything wrong. They made up stories. They were all made-up stories. He didn't do anything wrong. Cut him loose, sir. I said no, I won't do that. We got him through, and you know what, they couldn't give a damn. They couldn't give a damn. Let him rule the right way, but it almost seems that they are all going out of their way to hurt all of us and to hurt our country, to hurt our country.
    You know I read a story in one of the newspapers recently how I control the three Supreme Court justices. I control them. They are puppets. I read it
    about Bill Barr that he is my personal attorney, that he will do anything for me, and I said you know it really is genius because what they do is that and
    it makes it really impossible for them to ever give you a victory because all of the sudden Bill Barr changed, if you hadn't noticed. I like Bill Barr, but he changed because he didn't want to be considered my personal attorney. And the Supreme Court, they rule against me so much, do you know why, because the story is I haven't spoken to any of them, any of them since virtually they got in, but the story is that they are my puppet, right? That they are puppets, and now the only way they can get out of that because they hate that; it's not good on the social circuit, and the only way they get out is to rule against Trump, so let's rule against Trump, and they do that. So I want to congratulate them, but it shows you the media is genius. In fact, probably if I was the media, I would do it the same way, I hate to say it, but we have got to get them straightened out. Today for the sake of our democracy, for the sake of our Constitution, and for the sake of our children, we lay out the case for the entire world to hear. You want to hear it?

    In every single swing state, local officials, state officials almost all Democrats made illegal and unconstitutional changes to election procedures without the mandated approvals by the state legislatures that these changes paved the way for fraud on a scale never seen before, and I think we would go a long way outside of our country when I say that. So just in a nutshell, you can't make a change on voting for a federal election unless the state legislature approves it. No judge can do it; nobody can do it, only a legislature. So as an example, in Pennsylvania or whatever, you have a Republican legislature, you have a Democrat mayor, and you have a lot of Democrats all over the place; they go to the legislature, the legislature laughs at them says we're not going to do that, they say thank you very much and they go and make the changes themselves, they do it anyway, and that is totally illegal, that is totally illegal. You can't do that. In Pennsylvania, the Democrat secretary of state and the Democrat state Supreme Court justices illegally abolished the signature verification requirements just 11 days prior to the election. So think of what they did. No longer is there signature verification. That's okay. We want voter ID, by the way, but no longer is
    there signature verification. 11 days before the election, they say we don't want it. Do you know why they don't want them? Because they want to cheat, that's the only reason. Who would even think of that? We don't want to verify a signature. There were over 205,000 more ballots counted in Pennsylvania. Now think of this, you had 205,000 more ballots than you had voters. That means you had to -- where did they come from? Do you know where they came from? Somebody's imagination, whatever they need it. So in Pennsylvania, you had 205,000 more votes than you had voters, and it's -- the number is actually
    much greater than that now. That was as of a week ago, and this is a mathematical impossibility unless you want to say it's a total fraud.
    So if Pennsylvania was defrauded.
    Over 8,000 ballots in Pennsylvania were cast by people whose names and dates
    of birth match individuals who died in 2020 and prior to the election. Think
    of that. Dead people, lots of dead people, thousands, and some dead people actually requested an application. That bothers me even more. Not only are they voting, they want an application to vote; one of them was 29 years ago died. It's incredible. Over 14,000 ballots were cast by out-of-state voters, so these are voters that don't live in the state, and by the way, these numbers are what they call outcome-determinative, meaning these numbers far surpass -- I lost
    by a very little bit. These numbers are massive, massive. More than 10,000 votes in Pennsylvania were illegally counted even though they were received after Election Day. In other words, they were received after Election Day. Let's count them anyway and what they did in many cases is they did fraud,
    they took the date, and they moved it back so that it no longer is after Election Day. And more than 60,000 ballots in Pennsylvania were reported received back, they got back before they were ever supposedly mailed out. In other words, you got the ballot back before you mailed it, which is also logically and logistically impossible, right? Think of that one. You got that ballot back. Let's send the ballots. Oh, they've already been sent. But we
    got the ballot back before they were sent. I don't think that's too good, right? 25,000 ballots in Pennsylvania were requested by nursing home
    residents, all in a single giant batch, not legal, indicating an enormous illegal ballot harvesting operation. You are not allowed to do it. It's against the law. The day before the election, the state of Pennsylvania reported the number of absentee ballots that had been sent out, yet this number was suddenly and drastically increased by 400,000 people. It was increased; nobody knows where it came from by 400,000 ballots one day after the election. It remains totally unexplained. They said, well, we can't figure that. Now that's many, many times what it would take to overthrow the state, just that one element, 400,000 ballots appeared from nowhere right after the election. By the way, Pennsylvania has now seen all of this. They didn't know because it was so
    quick they had a vote, they voted, but now they see all of this stuff, it has all come to light. It doesn't happen that fast. And they want to recertify their votes. They want them recertified, but the only way that can happen is if Mike Pence agrees to send it back. Mike Pence has to agree to send it back. CROWD: Send it back. Send it back. Send it back. Send it back. Send it back. Send it back.
    TRUMP: And many people in Congress want it sent back. Think of
    what you are doing. Let's say you don't do it, somebody says, well, we have to obey the Constitution and you are because you are protecting our country, and you are protecting the Constitution, so you are, but think of what happens. Let's say there are stiffs and they are stupid people and they say, well, we really have no choice even though Pennsylvania and other states want to redo their votes, they want to see the numbers, they only have the numbers go very quickly and they want to redo their legislature because many of these votes were taken, as I said, because it wasn't approved by their legislature, you know that in itself is legal, and then you have the scam and that is all of
    the things that we are talking about. But think of this: If you don't do that, that means you will have a president of the United States for four years with his wonderful son, you will have a president who lost all of these states, or you will have a president, to put it another way, who was voted on by a bunch of stupid people who lost all of these states. You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can't let that happen. These are the facts that you won't hear from the fake news media. It's all part of the suppression effort. They don't want to talk about it. They don't want to talk about it. In fact, when I started talking about that, I guarantee you a lot of the television sets and a lot of those cameras went off, and that's a lot of cameras back there. But a lot of them went off, but these are the things you don't hear about, you don't hear what you just heard, and I'm going to go over a few more states, but you don't hear of the people who want to deceive you
    and demoralize you and control you big tech media just like the suppression polls that said we are going to lose Wisconsin by 17 points. Well, we won Wisconsin. They don't have it that way because they just buy a little sliver, but they had me down the day before. Washington Post ABC poll, down 17 points. I called up a real pollster. I said, what is that? "Sir, that's called a suppression poll. I think you are going to win Wisconsin, sir." I said, "But why don't they make it four or five points," because then people vote. But when you're down 17, they say, 'Hey, I'm not going to waste my time. I love the president, but there's no way.' Despite that -- despite that, we won Wisconsin. It's going to see -- I mean, you'll see.

    But that's called suppression because a lot of people when they see that -- it's very interesting. This pollster said, "Sir, if you're down three, four, five, people vote. When you go down 17, they say let's save -- let's go and have dinner and let's watch the presidential defeat tonight on television, darling." And just like the radical left tries to blacklist you on social media, every time I put out a tweet that's -- even if it's totally correct, totally correct -- I get a flag. I get a flag. And they also don't let you
    get out. You know, on Twitter, it's very hard to come on to my account. It's very hard to get out a message. They don't let the message get out nearly like they should. But I've had many people say I can't get on your Twitter. I don't care about Twitter. Twitter is bad news. They are all bad news. But you know what? If you want to -- if you want to get out a message and if you want to go through big tech, social media, they are really -- if you're a conservative,
    if you're a Republican, if you have a big voice, I guess they call it shadow ban, right? Shadow ban. They shadow ban you and it should be illegal. I've been telling these Republicans get rid of Section 230.

    And for some reason, Mitch and the group, they don't want to put it in there and they don't realize that that's going to be the end of the Republican
    Party as we know it, but it's never going to be the end of us. Never.

    Let them get out. Let -- let the weak ones get out. This is a time for strength. They also want to indoctrinate your children in school by teaching them things that aren't so. They want to indoctrinate your children. It's all part of a comprehensive assault on our democracy, and the American people are finally standing up and saying no. This crowd is, again, a testament to it. I did no advertising. I did nothing. You do have some groups that are big supporters. I want to thank that. Amy and everybody. We have some incredible supporters. Incredible. But we didn't do anything. This just happened. Two months ago, we had a massive crowd come down to Washington. I said what are they there for? Sir, they're there for you. We had nothing to do with it. These groups are formed -- they're forming all over the United States. And we've got to remember, in a year from now, you're going to start working on Congress and we've got to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren't any good, the Liz Cheneys of the world. We've got to get rid of them. We've got to get rid.

    You know, she never wants a soldier brought home. I brought a lot of our soldiers home. I don't know. Some might like it. They're in countries that nobody even knows the name. Nobody knows where they are. They're dying.
    They're great, but they're dying. They are losing their arms, their legs,
    their face. I brought them back ho me. Largely back home. Afghanistan, Iraq. Remember I used to say in the old days, don't go in Iraq. But if you go in, keep the oil. We didn't keep the oil. So stupid. So stupid, these people.
    And Iraq has billions and billions of dollars now in the bank. And what did
    we do? We did get nothing. We never get -- but we do, actually. We kept the
    oil here. We kept -- we did good. We got rid of the ISIS caliphate. We got rid of plenty of different things. Everybody knows, and the rebuilding of our military in three years, people said it couldn't be done and it was all made in the USA. All made in the USA. Best equipment in the world. In Wisconsin, corrupt Democrat-run cities deployed more than 500 illegal unmanned, unsecured drop boxes, which collected a minimum of 91,000 unlawful votes. It was razor thin, the loss. This one thing alone is much more than we would need, but
    there are many things. They have these lockboxes. And you know, they pick them up and they disappear for two days. People would say where's that box? They'd disappeared. Nobody even knew where the hell it was. In addition, more than 170,000 absentee votes were counted in Wisconsin without a valid absentee ballot application. So they had a vote, but they had no application and that's illegal in Wisconsin. Meaning, those votes were blatantly done in opposition to state law and they came 100 percent from Democrat areas such as
    Milwaukee and Madison. 100 percent. In Madison, 17,000 votes were deposited in so-called human drop boxes. You know what that is, right? Where operatives stuff thousands of unsecured ballots into duffel bags on park benches across the city in complete defiance of cease and desist letters from state legislature. The state legislatures said don't do it. They're the only ones that could approve it. They gave tens of thousands of votes. They came in duffel bags. Where the hell did they come from? According to eyewitness testimony, Postal Service workers in Wisconsin were
    also instructed to illegally backdate approximately 100,000 ballots. The
    margin of difference in Wisconsin was less than 20,000 votes. Each one of
    these things alone wins us the state. Great state. We love the state. We won the state. In Georgia, your secretary of state, who I can't believe this guy is a Republican. He loves recording telephone conversations. You know, that was a -- I thought it was a great conversation, personally. So did a lot of other
    -- people love that conversation because it says what's going on. These people are crooked. They are 100 percent -- in my opinion, one of the most corrupt. Between your governor and your secretary of state -- and now you have it
    again last night. Just take a look at what happened. What a mess. And the Democrat Party operatives entered into an illegal and unconstitution -- unconstitutional settlement agreement that drastically weakens signature verification and other election security procedures. Stacey Abrams, she took them to lunch. And I beat her two years ago with a bad candidate, Brian Kemp. But they took -- the Democrats took the Republicans to lunch because
    the secretary of state had no clue what the hell was happening -- unless he
    did have a clue. That's interesting. Maybe he was with the other side.
    But we've been trying to get verifications of signatures in Fulton County.
    They won't let us do it. The only reason they won't is because we'll find things in the hundreds of thousands. Why wouldn't they let us verify
    signatures at Fulton County, which is known for being very corrupt? They won't do it. They go to some other county where you would live.
    I said that's not the problem. The problem is Fulton County, home of Stacey Abrams. She did a good job. I congratulate her, but it was done in such a way that we can't let this stuff happen. We won't have a country if it happens. As a result, Georgia's absentee ballot rejection rate was more than 10 times
    lower than previous levels because the criteria was so off. Forty-eight counties in Georgia with thousands and thousands of votes
    rejected zero ballots. There wasn't one ballot. In other words, in a year in which more mail-in ballots were sent than ever before and more people were voting by mail for the first time, their rejection rate was drastically lower than it had ever been before. The only way this can be explained as if tens of thousands of illegitimate votes were added to the tally. That's the only way you could explain it. By the way, you're talking about tens of thousands. If Georgia had merely rejected the same number of unlawful ballots as in other years, there should have been approximately 45,000 ballots projected.
    Far more than what we needed to win, just over 11,000. They should find those votes. They should absolutely find that. Just over 11,000 votes. That's all
    we need. They defrauded us out of a win in Georgia. And we are not going to forget it. There's only one reason the Democrats could possibly want to eliminate signature matching, oppose voter ID, and stop citizenship confirmation. Are you a citizen? You're not allowed to ask that question. Because they want to steal the election. The radical left knows exactly what they were doing. They are ruthless, and it's time that somebody did something about it. And Mike Pence, I hope you're going to stand up for
    the good of our Constitution and for the good of our country. And if you're not, I'm going to be very disappointed in you. I will tell you right now. I'm not hearing good stories. In Fulton County, Republican poll watchers rejected in some cases physically, the individuals whose names and dates of birth match incarcerated felons in Georgia prison, people who are not allowed to vote. More than 4,500 illegal ballots were cast by individuals who do not appear on the state's own voter rolls. Over 18,000 illegal ballots were cast by individuals who registered to vote using an address listed as vacant, according to the Postal Service. At least 88,000 ballots in Georgia were cast by people whose registrations were illegally backdated. Sixty-six thousand votes -- each one of these is far more than we need. Sixty-six thousand votes in Georgia were cast by individuals under the legal voting age, and at least 15,000 ballots were cast by individuals who moved out of the state prior to the November 3 election. They say they moved right back. They moved right back. Oh, they moved out, they moved right back, okay. They missed Georgia that much? I do, I love Georgia, but it's a corrupt system. Despite all of this, the margin in Georgia is only 11,779 votes. Each and every one of these issues is enough to give us a victory in Georgia, a big beautiful victory. Make no mistake, this election was stolen from you, from me, and from the country, and not a single swing state has conducted a comprehensive audit to remove the illegal ballots.
    This should absolutely occur in every single contested state before the election is certified. In the state of Arizona, over 36,000 ballots were illegally cast by noncitizens. Two thousand ballots were returned with no address. More than 22,000 ballots were returned before they were ever supposedly mailed out. They returned, but we haven't mailed them yet. 11,600 more ballots and votes were counted more than there were actual voters.
    You see that? So, you have more votes, again, than you have voters. 150,000 people registered in Maricopa County after the registration deadline. 103,000 ballots in the county were sent for electronic adjudication with no Republican observers. In Clark County, Nevada, the accuracy settings on signature verification machines were purposefully lowered before they were used to count over 130,000 ballots. If you signed your name as Santa Claus, it would go through. There were also more than 42,000 double votes in Nevada. Over 150,000 people were hurt so badly by what took place and 1,500 ballots were cast by individuals whose names and dates of birth match Nevada residents who died in 2020 prior to November 3 election. More than 8,000 votes were cast by individuals who had no address and probably didn't live there.
    The margin in Nevada is down at a very low number. Any of these things would have taken care of the situation. We would have won Nevada also. Every one of these we're going over, we win. In Michigan, quickly, the secretary of state,
    a real great one, flooded the state with unsolicited mail-in ballot applications sent to every person on the rolls in direct violation of state law. More than 17,000 Michigan ballots were cast by individuals whose names and dates of birth match people who were deceased. In Wayne County, that's a great one. That's Detroit -- 174,000 ballots were counted without being tied to an actual registered voter. Nobody knows where they came from. Also in Wayne County, poll watches observed canvassers rescanning batches of ballots over
    and over again up to three or four or five times. In Detroit, turnout was 139 percent of registered voters. Think of that. So, you had 139 percent of the people in Detroit voting. This is in Michigan, Detroit Michigan.

    A career employee of the Detroit -- City of Detroit testified under penalty
    of perjury that she witnessed city workers coaching voters to vote straight Democrat while accompanying them to watch who they voted for. When a
    Republican came in, they wouldn't talk to them. The same worker was instructed not to ask for any voter ID and not to attempt to validate any signatures if they were Democrats. She also was told to illegally ... and was told backdate ballots, received after the deadline, and reports of thousands and thousands
    of ballots were improperly backdated. That's Michigan. Four witnesses have testified under penalty of perjury that after officials in Detroit announced the last votes had been counted, tens of thousands of additional ballots arrived without required envelopes. Every single one was for a Democrat. I got no votes. At 6:31 a.m. in the early morning hours after voting had ended, Michigan suddenly reported 147,000 votes. An astounding 94 percent went to Joe Biden who campaigned brilliantly from his basement. Only a couple of percentage points went to Trump. Such gigantic and one-sided vote dumps were only
    observed in a few swing states and they were observed in the states where it was necessary -- you know what's interesting? President Obama beat Biden in every state other than the swing states where Biden killed them, but the swing states were the ones that mattered. They're always just enough to push Joe Biden barely into the lead. We were ahead by a lot and within a number of hours, we were losing by a little. In addition, there is the highly troubling matter of Dominion voting systems. In one Michigan County alone, 6,000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden and the same systems are used in the
    majority of states in our country. Senator William Ligon, a great gentleman, chairman of Georgia Senate Judiciary Subcommittee, Senator Ligon, highly respected on elections, has written a letter describing his concerns with Dominion in Georgia. He wrote, and I quote, "The Dominion voting machines employed in Fulton County had an astronomical and astounding 93.67 percent error rate." It's only wrong 93 percent of the time. In the scanning of
    ballots requiring a review panel to adjudicate or determine the voters' interest in over 106,000 ballots out of a total of 113,000. Think of it, you
    go in and you vote and then they tell people who you're supposed to be voting for. They make up whatever they want. Nobody's ever even heard. They
    adjudicate your vote. They say: "Well, we don't think Trump wants to vote for Trump. We think he wants to vote for Biden. Put it down for Biden."
    The national average for such an error rate is far less than 1 percent, and
    yet you're at 93 percent. The source of this astronomical error rate must be identified to determine if these machines were set up or destroyed to allow for a third party to disregard the actual ballot cast by the registered voter.
    The letter continues, "There is clear evidence that tens of thousands of
    votes were switched from President Trump to former Vice President Biden in several counties in Georgia." For example, in Bibb County, President Trump was reported to have 29,391 votes at 9:11 p.m. Eastern time while simultaneously, Vice President Joe Biden was reported to have 17,213. Minutes later, just minutes, at the next update, these vote numbers switched with President Trump going way down to 17,000 and Biden going way up to 29,391. And, that was
    very quick, a 12,000-vote switch all in Mr. Biden's favor. So, I mean, I
    could go on and on about this fraud that took place in every state and all of these legislators want this back. I don't want to do it to you because I love you and it's freezing out here.
    (LAUGHTER)
    But I could just go on forever. I can tell you this --
    CROWD: We love you, we love you, we love you.
    TRUMP: So, when you hear -- when you hear, "While there is no evidence to
    prove any wrongdoing," this is the most fraudulent thing anybody's -- this is
    a criminal enterprise.
    This is a criminal enterprise. And the press will say -- and I'm sure they won't put any of that on there because that's no good and did you ever see -- "While there is no evidence to back President Trump's assertion." I could go
    on for another hour reading this stuff to you and telling you about it.
    There's never been anything like it. Think about it. Detroit had more votes than it had voters. Pennsylvania had 205,000 more votes than it had more --
    but you don't have to go -- between that, I think that's almost better than dead people if you think, right? More votes than they had voters and many
    other states also. It's a disgrace that the United States of America, tens of millions of people are allowed to go vote without so much as even showing identification. In no state is there any question or effort made to verify the identity, citizenship, residency, or eligibility of the votes cast. The Republicans have to get tougher. You're not going to have a Republican
    Party if you don't get tougher. They want to play so straight. They want to play so serious. "The United States, the Constitution doesn't allow me to send them back to the states." Well, I would say yes, it does, because the Constitution says you have to protect our country, and you have to protect our Constitution, and you can't vote on fraud, and fraud breaks up everything, doesn't it? When you catch somebody in a fraud, you are allowed to go by very different rules. So I hope Mike has the courage to do what he has to do, and I hope he doesn't listen to the RINOs and the stupid people that he's listening to. It is also widely understood that the voter rolls are crammed full of noncitizens, felons, and people who have moved out of state, and individuals who are otherwise ineligible to vote, yet Democrats oppose every effort to clean up their voter rolls. They don't want to clean them up. They are loaded, and how many people here are -- know other people that when hundreds of thousands and then millions of ballots got sent out got three, four, five, six and I heard one who got seven ballots, and then they say you didn't quite
    make it, sir. We won in a landslide. This was a landslide.

    They said it's not American to challenge the election. This is the most
    corrupt election in the history, maybe in the world. You know you could go to third-world countries, but I don't think they had hundreds of thousands of votes, and they don't have voters for them. I mean, no matter where you go, nobody would think this. In fact, it's so egregious, it's so bad that a lot of people don't even believe it. It is so crazy that people don't even believe it. It can't be true. So they don't believe it. This is not just a matter of domestic politics; this is a matter of national security. So today, in addition to challenging the certification of the election, I'm calling on
    Congress and the state legislatures to quickly pass sweeping election
    reforms, and you had better do it before we have no country left. Today is
    not the end; it's just the beginning.

    With your help over the last four years, we built the greatest political movement in the history of our country, and nobody even challenges that. I
    say that over and over, and I never get challenged by the fake news, and they challenge almost everything we say. But our fight against the big donors, big media, big tech, and others is just getting started. This is the greatest in history; there's never been a movement like that. You look back, there are all of the way to the Washington Monument. This is incredible. Thank you very much.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Jeff Thiele on Tue Jun 21 23:42:18 2022
    On 21 Jun 2022, Jeff Thiele said the following...

    On 21 Jun 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    Since there has been so much talk about Trump's words on January 6th Here is what the man actually said.

    You are behind the times, man. Things have moved so, so far beyond that speech.

    What I posted is a record of fact, and that is where the truth will be
    once again discovered. These liars on the left will be exposed and their hate will be revealed for all to see. You really should have listened to me before when I suggested to head over to Wal*Mart and get your crayons, you know because they will cost more later. Due to inflation on the rise.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Jun 21 21:45:31 2022
    On 21 Jun 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    Since there has been so much talk about Trump's words on January 6th
    Here is what the man actually said.

    You are behind the times, man. Things have moved so, so far beyond that
    speech.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Jun 21 23:03:23 2022
    On 21 Jun 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    hate will be revealed for all to see. You really should have listened to What I posted is a record of fact, and that is where the truth will be once again discovered. These liars on the left will be exposed and their hate will be revealed for all to see. You really should have listened to me before when I suggested to head over to Wal*Mart and get your
    crayons, you know because they will cost more later. Due to inflation on the rise.

    That's just a bunch of word salad. The evidence exposed by the J6 Committee
    is damning.

    Jeff.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Jeff Thiele on Wed Jun 22 01:02:05 2022
    On 21 Jun 2022, Jeff Thiele said the following...

    On 21 Jun 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    hate will be revealed for all to see. You really should have listened What I posted is a record of fact, and that is where the truth will b once again discovered. These liars on the left will be exposed and th hate will be revealed for all to see. You really should have listened me before when I suggested to head over to Wal*Mart and get your crayons, you know because they will cost more later. Due to inflation the rise.

    That's just a bunch of word salad. The evidence exposed by the J6 Committee is damning.
    You sound like a kid, who has just be told no by an adult.
    No Jeff, facts matter.
    I posted what exactly what President Trump said word for word.
    This committee is joke.
    https://tinyurl.com/3yyxx99c

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Jun 22 06:31:34 2022
    On 22 Jun 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    That's just a bunch of word salad. The evidence exposed by the J6 Committee is damning.
    You sound like a kid, who has just be told no by an adult.
    No Jeff, facts matter.
    I posted what exactly what President Trump said word for word.
    This committee is joke.
    https://tinyurl.com/3yyxx99c

    A transcript of Trump's speech does not exonerate him of all of the crimes
    that the J6 hearings have exposed. It's pretty clear that you have not
    watched a single one of the hearings that you're so certain are a "joke."
    They are not.

    Jeff.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Jun 22 08:11:49 2022
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Jeff Thiele <=-

    Since there has been so much talk about Trump's words on January 6th
    Here is what the man actually said.

    "... and what makes them [Lefties] tremendously dangerous is that facts that contradict what they believe are simply ignored or evaded." -- Thomas Sowell


    ... The only dumb question is one you haven't asked yet.
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Jeff Thiele on Wed Jun 22 10:02:02 2022
    On 22 Jun 2022, Jeff Thiele said the following...

    A transcript of Trump's speech does not exonerate him of all of the
    crimes that the J6 hearings have exposed. It's pretty clear that you
    have not watched a single one of the hearings that you're so certain are
    a "joke." They are not.

    It's called work Jeff, I'm employed as a contractor for the U.S. Government
    and that employment is from 10:45am est to 8:00pm est. How do you find the time to watch this circus and support your family at the same time?
    Are you a good liberal that spends other peoples money?

    I can tell you that seeing this disgraced Watermelon-Head Schiffy Schiff and the other cast of undesirables that were involved with the Russia hoax that went on for 2.5 years, all the while knowing that this was a fake story.
    Now the same people are doing the same thing with January 6th.

    Instead why don't you tell us of all the good things that Joe Biden has done. The guy can't even ride a bike without falling, how is going to run the
    Nation? or is he really running anything?
    https://tinyurl.com/22wu6nh2

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Jun 22 10:25:47 2022
    On 22 Jun 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    A transcript of Trump's speech does not exonerate him of all of the crimes that the J6 hearings have exposed. It's pretty clear that you have not watched a single one of the hearings that you're so certain a "joke." They are not.

    It's called work Jeff, I'm employed as a contractor for the U.S. Government and that employment is from 10:45am est to 8:00pm est. How do you find the time to watch this circus and support your family at the
    same time? Are you a good liberal that spends other peoples money?

    Your work schedule does not make the hearings a "joke."

    I can tell you that seeing this disgraced Watermelon-Head Schiffy Schiff and the other cast of undesirables that were involved with the Russia
    hoax that went on for 2.5 years, all the while knowing that this was a fake story. Now the same people are doing the same thing with January
    6th.

    I think you should watch them before making such uninformed and ignorant comments.

    Instead why don't you tell us of all the good things that Joe Biden has done. The guy can't even ride a bike without falling, how is going to
    run the Nation? or is he really running anything?

    Distraction isn't going to work.

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Wed Jun 22 16:59:00 2022
    That's just a bunch of word salad. The evidence exposed by the J6 Committee is damning.
    You sound like a kid, who has just be told no by an adult.

    The next time he calls one of your posts word salad, ask him what the word "fught" means.

    He just used it a couple of messages back. For someone whose English is perfect it must mean something.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Wed Jun 22 17:04:00 2022
    Instead why don't you tell us of all the good things that Joe Biden has done.

    (1) He does not "mean tweet."
    (2) That is it.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Wed Jun 22 17:51:26 2022
    On 22 Jun 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    That's just a bunch of word salad. The evidence exposed by the J6 Committee is damning.
    You sound like a kid, who has just be told no by an adult.
    The next time he calls one of your posts word salad, ask him what the
    word "fught" means.

    It probably meant either "fight" or "fought," depending on the context.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Wed Jun 22 17:55:37 2022
    On 22 Jun 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    Instead why don't you tell us of all the good things that Joe Biden has
    (1) He does not "mean tweet."

    He's done more, such as the $1.2 billin bipartisan infrastructure package,
    but don't underestimate the value of a president not fanning the flames of division in our country.

    Jeff.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Jeff Thiele on Thu Jun 23 00:26:54 2022
    On 22 Jun 2022, Jeff Thiele said the following...

    It's called work Jeff, I'm employed as a contractor for the U.S. Government and that employment is from 10:45am est to 8:00pm est. How you find the time to watch this circus and support your family at the same time? Are you a good liberal that spends other peoples money?

    Your work schedule does not make the hearings a "joke."
    I never said my schedule had anything to with this being a media circus, just that I'm unavailable to watch this clown show.

    Please tell me your not sitting in your parents basement, in your underwear watching this. Although it would explain much; how you can spend hours at a time. Do you think your contributing or that these people can hear you as you yell at the TV?

    I can tell you that seeing this disgraced Watermelon-Head Schiffy Schi and the other cast of undesirables that were involved with the Russia hoax that went on for 2.5 years, all the while knowing that this was a fake story. Now the same people are doing the same thing with January 6th.

    I think you should watch them before making such uninformed and ignorant comments.
    Ignorance, no I am not. Nor am I uninformed either..
    Adam Schiff is the same a-hole who swore there was Direct Evidence that our President Trump colluded with Russia. Adam Schiff is a loser and will always
    be a loser. Every time I see Schiffy Schiff on the news he looks like he has a stick up his ass.

    Instead why don't you tell us of all the good things that Joe Biden ha done. The guy can't even ride a bike without falling, how is going to run the Nation? or is he really running anything?

    Distraction isn't going to work.
    What distraction Biden did fall off a bike, and I will add that the bike was not in motion when he fell. That's not a distraction, that's embarrassing.

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Jun 22 23:59:47 2022

    Hello Gregory!

    23 Jun 22 00:26, you wrote to Jeff Thiele:


    Distraction isn't going to work.
    What distraction Biden did fall off a bike, and I will add that the
    bike was not in motion when he fell. That's not a distraction, that's embarrassing.

    As someone who rides a bike fairly often, I'm pretty sure I've stumbled or tipped more while the bike was stationary rather than when it was in motion.

    Tell me Greg, are you going to be out biking when you're 79?


    Mike


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Jun 23 08:11:19 2022
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Jeff Thiele <=-

    It's called work Jeff, I'm employed as a contractor for the U.S. Government and that employment is from 10:45am est to 8:00pm est. How
    do you find the time to watch this circus and support your family at
    the same time? Are you a good liberal that spends other peoples money?

    Well, living in his Mom's basement saves a lot in rent. He's probably living off his Mom's retirement check too.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Jun 23 08:20:30 2022
    On 23 Jun 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    It's called work Jeff, I'm employed as a contractor for the U.S. Government and that employment is from 10:45am est to 8:00pm est you find the time to watch this circus and support your family a same time? Are you a good liberal that spends other peoples mone
    Your work schedule does not make the hearings a "joke."
    I never said my schedule had anything to with this being a media circus, just that I'm unavailable to watch this clown show.

    Make time. That;s no excuse for your ignorance.

    Please tell me your not sitting in your parents basement, in your underwear watching this. Although it would explain much; how you can
    spend hours at a time. Do you think your contributing or that these
    people can hear you as you yell at the TV?

    It is a well-known fact by now that my parents have no basement, nor do I
    live with them. That is your ignorance showing again. I feel that it is my
    duty as an American to stay informed.

    I can tell you that seeing this disgraced Watermelon-Head Schiffy and the other cast of undesirables that were involved with the Rus hoax that went on for 2.5 years, all the while knowing that this w fake story. Now the same people are doing the same thing with Janu 6th.
    I think you should watch them before making such uninformed and ignora comments.
    Ignorance, no I am not. Nor am I uninformed either..
    Indeed, you are. You're talking about hearings that you have not even watched.

    Adam Schiff is the same a-hole who swore there was Direct Evidence that our President Trump colluded with Russia.

    The Mueller report did not exonerate Trump.

    Adam Schiff is a loser and
    will always be a loser.

    I don't know, man. Schiff is still in office and your beloved Trump got
    fired. Who's the loser again?

    Instead why don't you tell us of all the good things that Joe Bide done. The guy can't even ride a bike without falling, how is going run the Nation? or is he really running anything?
    Distraction isn't going to work.
    What distraction Biden did fall off a bike, and I will add that the bike was not in motion when he fell. That's not a distraction, that's embarrassing.

    You're trying to chane the subject away from the growing pile of evidence implicating Trump in multiple crimes.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Ron L. on Thu Jun 23 08:26:38 2022
    On 23 Jun 2022, Ron L. said the following...
    It's called work Jeff, I'm employed as a contractor for the U.S. Government and that employment is from 10:45am est to 8:00pm est. How do you find the time to watch this circus and support your family at the same time? Are you a good liberal that spends other peoples money
    Well, living in his Mom's basement saves a lot in rent. He's probably living off his Mom's retirement check too.

    We don't all live off of our moms like you do, Ron.

    Jeff.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Miller on Thu Jun 23 09:56:43 2022
    On 22 Jun 2022, Mike Miller said the following...

    As someone who rides a bike fairly often, I'm pretty sure I've stumbled or tipped more while the bike was stationary rather than when it was in motion.

    The optics of this was just embarrassing, here is the leader of the free
    world falling off of a bike that was not even in motion.

    Tell me Greg, are you going to be out biking when you're 79?

    I am hoping for a floating hoverboard by then.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Jun 23 09:06:35 2022
    On 23 Jun 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...

    As someone who rides a bike fairly often, I'm pretty sure I've stumb or tipped more while the bike was stationary rather than when it was motion.
    The optics of this was just embarrassing, here is the leader of the free world falling off of a bike that was not even in motion.

    It's not as bad an optic as the leader of the free world riding around in a golf cart because he can't keep up with the other world leaders who are walking.

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Jun 23 15:24:09 2022

    Hello Gregory!

    23 Jun 22 09:56, you wrote to me:

    On 22 Jun 2022, Mike Miller said the following...

    As someone who rides a bike fairly often, I'm pretty sure I've
    stumbled or tipped more while the bike was stationary rather than
    when it was in motion.

    The optics of this was just embarrassing, here is the leader of the
    free world falling off of a bike that was not even in motion.

    True, almost as embarassing as the leader of the free world needing help to walk down a gently sloping ramp.


    Tell me Greg, are you going to be out biking when you're 79?

    I am hoping for a floating hoverboard by then.

    We've been waiting for for one of those nearly 33 years.


    Mike


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Thu Jun 23 16:52:00 2022
    (1) He does not "mean tweet."

    He's done more, such as the $1.2 billin bipartisan infrastructure package,

    OK, that is two things.

    but don't underestimate the value of a president not fanning the flames of division in our country.

    I shall remember that the next time he points out that "red states" are
    worse at something.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Thu Jun 23 17:00:00 2022
    What distraction Biden did fall off a bike, and I will add that the bike was not in motion when he fell. That's not a distraction, that's embarrassing.

    IF Biden's camp had not gone to all the trouble to put together that
    campaign commercial where he is shown running everywhere, while pointing
    out that Trump holds onto a hand rail going up stairs, it might not be so embarrassing. As it is, they set a high bar that a near 80 year old man
    cannot manage to stay above.

    As it is, he has fallen up the stairs to Air Force One at least once,
    fallen off a bike (that he was probably on for some publicity stunt), and
    had no telling how many other stumbles and gaffes. Again, I would not
    think much of them had it not been for his camp playing up how he was the picture of fitness and athletic ability.

    The same bozos who think that Biden's pitfalls should be off limits to mentioning are likely the same ones who made fun of Bob Dole, George H. W. Bush, and several other non-Democrats over the years.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MIKE MILLER on Thu Jun 23 17:02:00 2022
    As someone who rides a bike fairly often, I'm pretty sure I've stumbled or ti
    ed more while the bike was stationary rather than when it was in motion.

    Tell me Greg, are you going to be out biking when you're 79?


    If Biden's camp didn't want his physical fitness mentioned, they should not have made that campaign ad where he is running everywhere while poking fun
    at Trump using a hand rail to climb steps.

    In other words, Biden and his team brought it upon themselves.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Thu Jun 23 17:05:00 2022
    Please tell me your not sitting in your parents basement, in your underwear watching this. Although it would explain much; how you can spend hours at a time. Do you think your contributing or that these people can hear you as you yell at the TV?

    It is a well-known fact by now that my parents have no basement, nor do I live with them. That is your ignorance showing again. I feel that it is my duty as an American to stay informed.

    How often do you leave the house? It is also a well-known fact here that
    you at one point had multiple cars that you could not drive anywhere
    because the batteries were dead because you don't ever go anywhere.


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Mike Powell on Thu Jun 23 18:05:07 2022

    Hello Mike!

    23 Jun 22 17:02, you wrote to me:

    As someone who rides a bike fairly often, I'm pretty sure I've
    stumbled or ti ed more while the bike was stationary rather than
    when it was in motion.

    Tell me Greg, are you going to be out biking when you're 79?


    If Biden's camp didn't want his physical fitness mentioned, they
    should not have made that campaign ad where he is running everywhere
    while poking fun at Trump using a hand rail to climb steps.

    Trump had to have his hand held while he walked down a gently sloping ramp.
    He had to be driven around in a golf cart behind other world leaders that were walking because he couldn't keep up.

    Biden tipping off a bike? Sure it's funny, but the optics aren't nearly as bad as the above.





    Mike


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Thu Jun 23 20:23:01 2022
    but don't underestimate the value of a president not fanning the flames division in our country.
    I shall remember that the next time he points out that "red states" are worse at something.

    If the shoe fits...

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Thu Jun 23 20:26:30 2022
    On 23 Jun 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    Please tell me your not sitting in your parents basement, in your underwear watching this. Although it would explain much; how you ca spend hours at a time. Do you think your contributing or that these people can hear you as you yell at the TV?
    It is a well-known fact by now that my parents have no basement, nor do live with them. That is your ignorance showing again. I feel that it is duty as an American to stay informed.
    How often do you leave the house? It is also a well-known fact here that you at one point had multiple cars that you could not drive anywhere because the batteries were dead because you don't ever go anywhere.

    We are in the middle of a pandemic, after all. I am fortunate enough to be
    able to work from home and don't miss the commute one bit. I do, however,
    bike the local trails occasionally.

    Jeff.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron L. on Fri Jun 24 05:10:15 2022
    Hello Ron,

    It's called work Jeff, I'm employed as a contractor for the U.S.
    Government and that employment is from 10:45am est to 8:00pm est. How
    do you find the time to watch this circus and support your family at
    the same time? Are you a good liberal that spends other peoples money?

    Well, living in his Mom's basement saves a lot in rent. He's probably living
    off his Mom's retirement check too.

    If you want to make money, you have to spend money. Preferably,
    somebody else's money. That is the way it works. After all, the
    economy is for the person. Not the other way around. Remember
    that, and you'll be just fine.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MIKE MILLER on Fri Jun 24 17:11:00 2022
    If Biden's camp didn't want his physical fitness mentioned, they
    should not have made that campaign ad where he is running everywhere while poking fun at Trump using a hand rail to climb steps.

    Trump had to have his hand held while he walked down a gently sloping ramp. He had to be driven around in a golf cart behind other world leaders that were
    alking because he couldn't keep up.

    Biden tipping off a bike? Sure it's funny, but the optics aren't nearly as bad
    s the above.

    I dunno. Did Trump ever make an ad where he was acting like he was
    physically fit while showing Biden using a hand rail? I don't think so.
    The most I remember him mentioning was Biden's mental health so, until
    footage comes to light of Trump using a cheat sheet to tell him specific
    things like "YOU walk into the room, YOU sit down, YOU ask so-and-so ONE question..." I think the worse optics go with the person who brought
    physical fitness up and does not seem to be living up to their own claims
    and expectations.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Fri Jun 24 17:12:00 2022
    but don't underestimate the value of a president not fanning the flames
    division in our country.
    I shall remember that the next time he points out that "red states" are worse at something.

    If the shoe fits...

    So, just to be straight, it is "bad" when a Republican points out things
    that "blue state" types are bad about, even when it is true, because that causes "division" but, if a Democrat points out similar things about "red state" types, that is just fine and causes no division whatsoever?

    I am not the least bit surprised, considering the source. Just spelling out for the folks at home.


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30.1 to Mike Powell on Fri Jun 24 17:05:42 2022
    Hello, Mike Powell.
    On 6/24/22 5:11 PM you wrote:

    Biden tipping off a bike? Sure it's funny, but the optics aren't
    nearly as bad s the above.
    I dunno. Did Trump ever make an ad where he was acting like he
    was physically fit while showing Biden using a hand rail? I don't
    think so. The most I remember him mentioning was Biden's mental
    health so, until footage comes to light of Trump using a cheat
    sheet to tell him specific things like "YOU walk into the room,
    YOU sit down, YOU ask so-and-so ONE question..." I think the worse
    optics go with the person who brought physical fitness up and does
    not seem to be living up to their own claims and expectations.
    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/12/19/USAT/d5af16ad-a862-4dde-a500-77b1a4b1b942-20180221.jpg


    Here's a picture of Trump's notes from a "listening" session for student survivors of mass shootings.

    He literally had to remind himself to say "I hear you"

    Now, that could be because he's mentally diminished, or just so narcissistic he has to have notes to seem like he was paying attention.

    There are other photos of his notes riddled with spelling errors and simple phrases he wanted to repeat.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MIKE MILLER on Sat Jun 25 15:09:00 2022
    Here's a picture of Trump's notes from a "listening" session for student survi
    rs of mass shootings.

    He literally had to remind himself to say "I hear you"

    Now, that could be because he's mentally diminished, or just so narcissistic
    has to have notes to seem like he was paying attention.

    There are other photos of his notes riddled with spelling errors and simple ph
    ses he wanted to repeat.

    People often use notes, that they've usually written, when speaking
    publically. I often use my own form of shorthand when taking notes that only
    I need to read.

    People do not so often need notes, written by others, that remind
    them to "enter a room" or "sit down." Those are a lot more basic things
    than including key phrases that one wants to remember.

    Do YOU ever need to be reminded to "sit down"?


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Mike Powell on Mon Jun 27 12:22:05 2022

    Hello Mike!

    25 Jun 22 15:09, you wrote to me:

    Here's a picture of Trump's notes from a "listening" session for
    student survi rs of mass shootings.

    He literally had to remind himself to say "I hear you"


    Do YOU ever need to be reminded to "sit down"?


    I was raised Catholic. I often had to be reminded to "sit down" "stand" and "kneel"


    Mike


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