Hello!


How do I delete a queued Crash entry?

From the main menu: Fido/Crash, I have:


+- Crash call... -----------------------------------------------+
| r 1:18/200 Outpost BBS, Limestone TN |
| -- other |
| -- all | +---------------------------------------------------------------+

Since the above system uses "mbcico", it will never succeed with a file request.

How do I remove this entry? The F1-help is not providing any clues.


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How do I delete a queued Crash entry?

That I don't know.

From the main menu: Fido/Crash, I have:

+- Crash call... -----------------------------------------------+
| r 1:18/200 Outpost BBS, Limestone TN |
| -- other |
| -- all | +---------------------------------------------------------------+

Since the above system uses "mbcico", it will never succeed with a file request.

mbcico is MBSE BBS's mailer, and MBSE BBS does do file requests as far as I know.

On another note, MBSE BBS also has BW support built in so another possibility for SemPoint support.

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Hello Alan!

On 10.05.19 at 01:17, Alan Ianson wrote to August Abolins:

How do I delete a queued Crash entry?

That I don't know.

From the main menu: Fido/Crash, I have:

+- Crash call... -----------------------------------------------+
| r 1:18/200 Outpost BBS, Limestone TN |
| -- other |
| -- all |
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

Since the above system uses "mbcico", it will never succeed with a file
request.

mbcico is MBSE BBS's mailer, and MBSE BBS does do file requests as far as I know.

Yes it does and file requesting from WinPoint to MBSE systems works perfectly.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello August!

On 09.05.19 at 23:25, August Abolins wrote to All:

How do I delete a queued Crash entry?

From the main menu: Fido/Crash, I have:

+- Crash call... -----------------------------------------------+
| r 1:18/200 Outpost BBS, Limestone TN |
| -- other |
| -- all | +---------------------------------------------------------------+

Since the above system uses "mbcico", it will never succeed with a file request.

How do I remove this entry? The F1-help is not providing any clues.

From the F1-help .....

---------- 8< ----------
Pressing "E" allows you to edit the entry for the selected box, or
delete the entry.
---------- 8< ----------

Hint:
If, for some reason, that doesn't work, you can remove it manually by
going into your OpenXP directory and delete "request.dat".

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.38
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Hello Martin,

On 10.05.19, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

+- Crash call... -----------------------------------------------+
1:18/200 Outpost BBS, Limestone TN

mbcico is MBSE BBS's mailer, and MBSE BBS does do file requests as far
as I know.

Yes it does and file requesting from WinPoint to MBSE systems works perfectly.

Have you tried it with WinPoint to the above? A direct call/Crashmail does not
seem to work for me.


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Hello Martin!

** 10.05.19 - 11:22, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

---------- 8< ----------
Pressing "E" allows you to edit the entry for the selected box, or
delete the entry.
---------- 8< ----------

The E)dit only allows you to clear out the file list. I was looking for a way to delete the SYSTEM.

Clearing the file list was fine, but when I thought I was done, the crash entry was still there, and the file list was back!

What is MISSING in the instructions, is to "keep pressing ENTER until the window closes for the changes to take effect"! Arghhhhh

OXP just has a strange way of finalizing changes (that is, keep pressing ENTER all the way through to the end of every configuration form) that I
keep forgetting about.

Hint:
If, for some reason, that doesn't work, you can remove it manually by
going into your OpenXP directory and delete "request.dat".

I guess I don't need that anymore. Thanks anyway.


../|ug

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In a post between "Alan Ianson : August Abolins", on 5/10/2019 5:17 AM

How do I delete a queued Crash entry?

That I don't know.

Hi Alan.. This was particular to OpenXP. Have you any experience using OpenXP?
It's quite nice for a console-based program.

+- Crash call... -----------------------------------------------+
| r 1:18/200 Outpost BBS, Limestone TN |

Since the above system uses "mbcico", it will never succeed with a file
request.

mbcico is MBSE BBS's mailer, and MBSE BBS does do file requests as far as I know.

Yes. But apparently OpenXP does not play nice with mbcico systems. :( This is what my initial message was about.

On another note, MBSE BBS also has BW support built in so another
possibility for SemPoint support.

Thanks for the heads up. Sean's "Outpost BBS" ought to be a good BW test site.

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Hi Alan.. This was particular to OpenXP. Have you any experience using OpenXP
It's quite nice for a console-based program.

I think I tried OpenXP or crosspoint many years ago. IIRC the interface was in german perhaps and I couldn't figure out how to get going.

Yes. But apparently OpenXP does not play nice with mbcico systems. :( This is
what my initial message was about.

Ah, OK.

On another note, MBSE BBS also has BW support built in so another
possibility for SemPoint support.

Thanks for the heads up. Sean's "Outpost BBS" ought to be a good BW test site

Yep, I think so. Sean is one of the MBSE developers I think, so yeah.. you could talk to him about mailer connects also.

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Hello August!

## 10.05.19 at 18:07:42, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

+- Crash call... -----------------------------------------------+
1:18/200 Outpost BBS, Limestone TN

mbcico is MBSE BBS's mailer, and MBSE BBS does do file requests as far
as I know.

Yes it does and file requesting from WinPoint to MBSE systems works
perfectly.

Have you tried it with WinPoint to the above?

Not yet but as soon as I'm able, I'll give it a try.

A direct call/Crashmail does not seem to work for me.

In what way doesn't it work?

Regards,
Martin

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Hello August!

## 10.05.19 at 19:03:00, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

[snip]

OXP just has a strange way of finalizing changes (that is, keep pressing ENTER all the way through to the end of every configuration form) that I keep forgetting about.

Keep plugging away, you'll get used to it :-)

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Alan!

## 10.05.19 at 22:30:56, Alan Ianson wrote to August Abolins:

I think I tried OpenXP or crosspoint many years ago. IIRC the interface was in german perhaps and I couldn't figure out how to get going.

That must have been a *very* long time ago because OpenXP was translated into English sometime in the year 2000.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Alan!

## 11.05.19 at 11:21:50, Alan Ianson wrote to Martin Foster:

I think I tried OpenXP or crosspoint many years ago. IIRC the interface
was in german perhaps and I couldn't figure out how to get going.

That must have been a *very* long time ago because OpenXP was translated
into English sometime in the year 2000.

Has it been that long? ;)

Yes, doesn't time fly :-)

Is OpenXP a continuation of crosspoint?

Yes it is and after the original CrossPoint author released the source in
late December 1999, a bunch of programmers got together and formed the
"OpenXP Team". The first thing they did was to port the 16-Bit DOS code
to 32-Bit Windows.

Where can I find OpenXP today?

Methinks somebody beat me to it :-)

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Martin,

On 11.05.19, you wrote to August Abolins:

1:18/200 Outpost BBS, Limestone TN

mbcico is MBSE BBS's mailer, and MBSE BBS does do file requests as far
as I know.

Yes it does and file requesting from WinPoint to MBSE systems works
perfectly.

Have you tried it with WinPoint to the above?

Not yet but as soon as I'm able, I'll give it a try.

A direct call/Crashmail does not seem to work for me.

In what way doesn't it work?

Ooops, sorry. Crashmail (netmail), in general works fine. I meant that I can't seem to direct a FREQ (nnnnnnnn.REQ) to a specific system. The controls in German confuse me, I guess.


../|ug

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Hello Martin!

** 11.05.19 - 11:46, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

[snip]

OXP just has a strange way of finalizing changes (that is, keep pressing
ENTER all the way through to the end of every configuration form) that I
keep forgetting about.

Keep plugging away, you'll get used to it :-)

Your startup-guide made it very clear to keep pressing Enter for specific config panels. Thank you. It would be nice to have that mentioned in
the context-helps.


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Hello Alan!

** 10.05.19 - 22:30, Alan Ianson wrote to August Abolins:

On another note, MBSE BBS also has BW support built in so another
possibility for SemPoint support.

Thanks for the heads up. Sean's "Outpost BBS" ought to be a good BW test
site

Yep, I think so. Sean is one of the MBSE developers I think, so yeah.. you
could talk to him about mailer connects also.

Sean must be "away from his desk" for an unknown period. :(

My Zmodem sessions were failing with tons of errors. Could not get a complete BW or QWK packet. :(

Can't leave a message on his BBS either. The online post editor kicks in, but then it *immediately* goes back to a menu. :(



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Hello August!

## 12.05.19 at 17:27, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

[snip]

Ooops, sorry. Crashmail (netmail), in general works fine. I meant that
I can't seem to direct a FREQ (nnnnnnnn.REQ) to a specific system. The controls in German confuse me, I guess.

WinPoint doesn't support that feature but it can be tricked into
thinking that it does :-))

The trick is ugly, it's not elegant and it must rank as the most
convoluted process ever but it does work.

Here we go .....

You need to find a message from the person to whom you wish to request
a file(s) from. If you can't find one, well, ummmmm, that's the end of
it and there's no need to go any further. Assuming that you've found
one, proceed as follows .....

- Right-click anywhere on the message in the viewer and click "Request
files from Message". This takes you into the request editor.

- Double-clicking on any line of text will place that line of text in
the "Request" window down near the bottom of the screen.

- Clear the line of text in the "Request" window by right-clicking on
the line of text and then click "Zeile loschen"(Delete line). You
may have to do that twice to clear the line of text.

- Click in the "Neuer Dateiname" field and enter the filename you wish
to request.

- Click the "Hinzufugen" button and the filename should move into the
window above(that's the one where the line of text was).

- Click the "Speichern" button.

- Click the "OK" button.

- Close the request editor.

- Now look in the outbound window and your request should be sitting
in the outbound queue.

- Double-click the .req file and the "Poll Node" window should pop up.

- Check all the details and if you're happy with them, click the "Ok"
button, otherwise, click the "Abbruch(Abort)" button.

Have fun :-))

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.38
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Hello August!

## 14.05.19 at 13:41, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

[snip]

Ooops, sorry. Crashmail (netmail), in general works fine. I meant that
I can't seem to direct a FREQ (nnnnnnnn.REQ) to a specific system. The
controls in German confuse me, I guess.

WinPoint doesn't support that feature but it can be tricked into
thinking that it does :-))

The trick is ugly, it's not elegant and it must rank as the most convoluted process ever but it does work.

Here we go .....

You need to find a message from the person to whom you wish to request
a file(s) from. If you can't find one, well, ummmmm, that's the end of
it and there's no need to go any further. Assuming that you've found
one, proceed as follows .....

- Right-click anywhere on the message in the viewer and click "Request
files from Message". This takes you into the request editor.

---------- 8< ----------

- Double-clicking on any line of text will place that line of text in
the "Request" window down near the bottom of the screen.

- Clear the line of text in the "Request" window by right-clicking on
the line of text and then click "Zeile loschen"(Delete line). You
may have to do that twice to clear the line of text.

---------- 8< ----------

- Click in the "Neuer Dateiname" field and enter the filename you wish
to request.

- Click the "Hinzufugen" button and the filename should move into the
window above(that's the one where the line of text was).

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No longer applies.

- Click the "Speichern" button.

- Click the "OK" button.

- Close the request editor.

- Now look in the outbound window and your request should be sitting
in the outbound queue.

- Double-click the .req file and the "Poll Node" window should pop up.

- Check all the details and if you're happy with them, click the "Ok"
button, otherwise, click the "Abbruch(Abort)" button.

Update .....

After further testing, the two steps enclosed between my two snip
markers above are not required. As a consequence, the bit about
"that's the one where the line of text was" no longer applies either.

Regards,
Martin

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