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  • OXP: ^REPLYID missing?

    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to All on Wed Nov 18 08:46:00 2020
    Hello!

    The ^REPLYID seems to go missing in OpenXP.

    [1] Example message:

    EMP: /FIDO/COFFEE_KLATSCH
    ABS: Wilfred van Velzen@2:460/58
    BET: But either way, an admin can always ban a user
    ROT: 2:221/1!460/58 640/1384 221/1
    MID: 2:460/58 0000019d
    EDA: 20201114192400W+0
    LEN: 136
    MAILER: tg_BBS_v0.6.2 / tg BBS v0.6.2
    X_C:
    X-XP-NTP: 30
    F-TO: All
    X-XP-Charset: IBM866
    U-TGUID: 202096118
    U-RealName: Wilfred van Velzen 2:280/464

    [2] Same message as above but viewed with NNTP reader:

    Newsgroups: coffee_klatsch
    X-SMAPI-From: Wilfred van Velzen <0:0/0.0>
    X-SMAPI-To: All <2:460/58.0>
    X-SMAPI-DateWritten: 14 Nov 20 19:24:10
    X-SMAPI-DateArrived: 14 Nov 20 18:26:56
    X-SMAPI-Control: @MSGID: 2:460/58 0000019d
    X-SMAPI-Control: @PID: tg_BBS_v0.6.2
    X-SMAPI-Control: @CHRS: CP866 2
    X-SMAPI-Control: @TGUID: 202096118
    X-SMAPI-Control: @REPLYTO 2:460/58 202096118
    X-SMAPI-Control: @RealName: Wilfred van Velzen 2:280/464

    [3] Same message, viewed with GoldEd:

    @MSGID: 2:460/58 0000019d
    @INTL 2:460/58 2:460/58
    @PID: tg_BBS_v0.6.2
    @CHRS: CP866 2
    @TGUID: 202096118
    @REPLYTO 2:460/58 202096118
    @RealName: Wilfred van Velzen 2:280/464



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    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
    * Origin: ----------Do Not Fold, Spindle or Mutilate.---------- (2:221/1.58)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Wed Nov 18 15:17:44 2020
    Hi August,

    On 2020-11-18 08:46:00, you wrote to All:

    The ^REPLYID seems to go missing in OpenXP.

    You mean the @REPLY: kludge?


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From August Abolins@2:333/808.7 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Nov 18 16:24:01 2020
    Hi Wilfred!

    18 Nov 20 15:17, you wrote to me:

    Hi August,

    On 2020-11-18 08:46:00, you wrote to All:

    The ^REPLYID seems to go missing in OpenXP.

    You mean the @REPLY: kludge?

    At closer inspection, we may both be wrong. The samples show @REPLYTO.



    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: ----> Point Of VeleNo BBs (http://www.velenobbs.net) (2:333/808.7)
  • From August Abolins@2:333/808.7 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Nov 18 21:37:40 2020
    Hi Wilfred!

    18 Nov 20 16:24, I wrote to you:

    The ^REPLYID seems to go missing in OpenXP.
    You mean the @REPLY: kludge?

    At closer inspection, we may both be wrong. The samples show
    @REPLYTO.

    From FSC-0035:

    ^REPLYTO zone:net/node firstname lastname

    which is used to signify the "userid" which mail destined to this other network must be sent to and on which machine that userids resides. Replies are sent
    to this zone:net/node and userid with the first line of the message being changed into 'TO: ....' where .... is the FULL userid from the ^AREPLYADDR line.

    In anycase, OpenXP seems to be ignoring it. :(


    ---
    * Origin: ----> Point Of VeleNo BBs (http://www.velenobbs.net) (2:333/808.7)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Fri Nov 20 17:09:54 2020
    Hi August,

    On 2020-11-18 21:37:40, you wrote to me:

    At closer inspection, we may both be wrong. The samples show
    @REPLYTO.

    From FSC-0035:

    ^REPLYTO zone:net/node firstname lastname

    which is used to signify the "userid" which mail destined to this other network must be sent to and on which machine that userids resides. Replies
    are sent to this zone:net/node and userid with the first line of the message being changed into 'TO: ....' where .... is the FULL userid from the ^AREPLYADDR line.

    In anycase, OpenXP seems to be ignoring it. :(

    It's an FSC document, so not a standard...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sun Nov 22 09:09:00 2020
    Hello Wilfred!

    *** Friday 20.11.20 at 17:09, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to August Abolins:

    At closer inspection, we may both be wrong. The samples show
    @REPLYTO.

    From FSC-0035:

    ^REPLYTO zone:net/node firstname lastname

    which is used to signify the "userid" which mail destined to this other
    network must be sent to and on which machine that userids resides.
    Replies are sent to this zone:net/node and userid with the first line of
    the message being changed into 'TO: ....' where .... is the FULL userid
    from the ^AREPLYADDR line.

    In anycase, OpenXP seems to be ignoring it. :(

    It's an FSC document, so not a standard...

    Yep, precisely and it's entirely at the discretion of software developers whether they implement the feature or not.

    Extract from FSC-0035:
    ---------- 8< ----------
    "This proposal should allow for almost totally
    transparent gateways but requires the
    co-operation of BBS software writers
    to support this following protocol."
    ---------- 8< ----------

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Sun Nov 22 09:07:00 2020
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Sunday 22.11.20 - 09:09, Martin Foster wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    It's an FSC document, so not a standard...

    Yep, precisely and it's entirely at the discretion of software developers whether they implement the feature or not.

    Extract from FSC-0035:
    ---------- 8< ----------
    "This proposal should allow for almost totally
    transparent gateways but requires the
    co-operation of BBS software writers
    to support this following protocol."
    ---------- 8< ----------

    Well.. let's hope that Gunter would like to give it a shot.

    Onward and upward. On we go!

    "Totally transparent" seems to be a good thing.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
    * Origin: ----------Do Not Fold, Spindle or Mutilate.---------- (2:221/1.58)