From: "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com>

Hello,

I have finished with Phase 1 of the Free Pascal Compiler Delphi XE Port Project:

http://www.skybuck.org/FreePascalCompilerDelphiXEPortProject/


All code with porting issue's have been disabled by me.

(The RTL is not used, instead small portions of it where copied to unit_skybuck_types.pas for the time being).


By disabling/commenting all code porting issue's it's now possible to fully compile the free pascal compiler in Delphi XE which should be a great help
to programmers all over the world that want to help with this new project !

Programmers should now be able to fix any bug in any file, they can all working in parallel.


This project is open to anybody skilled enough at fixing porting issue's... these are probably/hopefully little issue's like... fixing pascal-array features which are not supported in Delphi. (How to exactly fix these
issue's could be further discussed perhaps via e-mail, a forum,
newsgroups... not sure yet where we could discuss this... I'll probably
setup a nice little forum for us to communicate via the website... )


I also hope that the original developers of free pascal might take a little peak and perhaps help out at fixing their own compiler so it becomes "portable" again.

You should have and/or install a latest version of Delphi... (Delphi XE preferably) that would be great... then you have all the advanced tools that you need to fix this code ! ;) =D

Perhaps your code might even benefit from this. Perhaps it's also easier to navigate to certain things.


Do see SkybuckChanges.txt to see what I did to source code...

I shall also paste a link to the source code right here so you don't have to wrestly through that somewhat whacky/messy website ;):

http://www.skybuck.org/FreePascalCompilerDelphiXEPortProject/fpcbuild-2.4.2-delphi-xe-port-version-002-do-not-use-free-pascal-rtl.rar

Good luck to all and may the force be with you ! ;) =D

Bye,
Skybuck.



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From: "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com>

Hello,

Little blog:

I have experimented with subversion + google code hosting + delphi xe
build-in subversion client + rapid svn.
I spent a whole day trying to figure this stuff out but with success.
The subversion experience seems slow therefore I have trimmed down the
project to an absolute minimum of files so that downloads/checkouts can
happen fastly.
So in short: I have now setup a subversion server so that we could work in parallel.
However this will not be your typical subversion experience, since I have my own versioning methods and I don't really like subversion... it's too slow
and fok-ups are just around the corner...
However it will come in handy for this phase2 and it will come in handy for parallel work.
After the parallel work/fixes have been completed the trunk/revisions will probably again be removed, or perhaps it will be stored for historic reasons... however new branches will be created for further experimentation. Zip files will probably be main way of distributing all necessary files but perhaps I might change my mind later on... and perhaps I will start to use subversion more seriously... for now don't count on it staying up long ;)
So if you want to join in with fixing free pascal compiler so that it can be successfully compiled in Delphi XE then here is your big chance to join in ! ;) =D
Meanwhile you can also gain some experience with subversion... it's actually quite fun now that I am getting the hang of it and understand it a little
bit better ;) (I have tried in the past that probably helped ;) :))
Perhaps I will create some little tutorials maybe even some video's to help you started with working with subversion, delphi and this project.
For now this little help right here will have to do (all subversion-noobies are welcome ! ;) :)):

What do you need to participate in this project:

1. Delphi XE
2. A subversion client (Delphi XE should have one build in, otherwise
download Rapid SVN (it's free)).
3. A google account.
4. The following information, enter this subversion link into your client (repository):
https://free-pascal-compiler-delphi-port.googlecode.com/svn/

My advice is to select the "fpc-build" folder and download/check it out to your computer.

"fpcbuild-2.4.2-delphi-xe-port-version-004-make-fixes"

Copy & paste the folder name to a new folder on your computer, and rename it as follows, example:

"P:\fpcbuild-2.4.2-delphi-xe-port-version-004-make-fixes-working-copy"

For now you can only download the sources via svn (subversion), but you
should also be able to make changes,
simply use Delphi XE to make changes/fixes to files.

5. For you to be able to commit (send fixes to the subversion server) I need to add you as a "project member".
I need to add your e-mail which you associated with your google account to
the "project committers" list.
Once I did that you should be able to "commit" your changes.

So if you want to participate in this project send me an e-mail: skybuck2000@hotmail.com

Then I will put you on the committers list and you can go have some fun ! ;) =D

In case subversion is too difficult for you or you don't like it or you just want to have the latest files then here is the latest
"release/distribution".
I removed all unnecessary files and it has become much smaller and much more easy maintainable me thinks for the time being (i386/x86 only ;))
(However it should be able to later integrate changes back into the main releases, so don't worry about that ;)) fpcbuild-2.4.2-delphi-xe-port-version-004-make-fixes.rar

I hope some of you will join, that would be cool ! ;) =D

Bye for now,
Skybuck.



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From: "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com>

The short story so far:

Hello,

This project is about "porting" the Free Pascal Compiler to Delphi XE.

More information can be found on this little blog:

http://www.skybuck.org/FreePascalCompilerDelphiXEPortProject/

A subversion server has been setup here:

https://free-pascal-compiler-delphi-port.googlecode.com/svn/

The latest release/distribution is here:

http://www.skybuck.org/FreePascalCompilerDelphiXEPortProject/fpcbuild-2.4.2-delphi-xe-port-version-004-make-fixes.rar

The source code compiles, however little sections of code have been disabled as follows:

// *** Skybuck: Fix Needed ***

These sections are slight free pascal language incompatibilities with Delphi and need to be fixed...

There are about 700 of them. (Many duplicates here and there though).

Will you help fixing these issue's ?

If so you can either help by using subversion or simply working via e-mail
and selecting a file to fix.

Me e-mail is: skybuck2000@hotmail.com


After the compiler is fixed it can be extended to support new hardware/platforms and virtual machines, perhaps even converters... like opencl/cuda/ptx/php/java/.net/c/c++... pretty much anything can become possible afterwards. It's good to have an open-source delphi alternative, if you agree with that then help out and together we rock the cradle ! ;) =D

Bye,
Skybuck.



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From: "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com>

Ok,

I gave google code a try but it doesn't have all the features I want, so I
am switching to sourceforge:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/fpcfordelphi/

(I especially like/what the bugtracker ! ;) =D)

Bye,
Skybuck.



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From: Bart <broersma.juda_ANTISPAM_@tiscali.nl>

Op Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:41:21 +0200 schreef "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com>:

Hello,

I have finished with Phase 1 of the Free Pascal Compiler Delphi XE Port >Project:

All code with porting issue's have been disabled by me.

OK, so you savaged it as well...

Programmers should now be able to fix any bug in any file,

Why in the world should I need Delphi for that, when I can use
FreePascal itself on all supported platforms to do the same?

they can all working in parallel.

So it is with FreePascal itself.

What FreePascal really could use is it's own native debugger (this is
where Delphi still is way aheaed IMHO).

Bart
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Bart Broersma
broersma.juda_ANTISPAM_@tiscali.nl
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From: Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net>

Bart wrote:

Op Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:41:21 +0200 schreef "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com>:

Hello,

I have finished with Phase 1 of the Free Pascal Compiler Delphi XE Port >>Project:

All code with porting issue's have been disabled by me.

OK, so you savaged it as well...

Programmers should now be able to fix any bug in any file,

Why in the world should I need Delphi for that, when I can use
FreePascal itself on all supported platforms to do the same?

they can all working in parallel.

So it is with FreePascal itself.

What FreePascal really could use is it's own native debugger (this is
where Delphi still is way aheaed IMHO).

Bart

That and the fact that FP has serious issues with some serious large EXE files.

Jamie



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From: Marco van de Voort <marcov@turtle.stack.nl>

On 2011-04-17, Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote: >> What FreePascal really could use is it's own native debugger (this is

where Delphi still is way aheaed IMHO).

That and the fact that FP has serious issues with some serious large EXE files.

That is only for people that don't read FAQs

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From: Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net>

Marco van de Voort wrote:

On 2011-04-17, Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net>

wrote:

What FreePascal really could use is it's own native debugger (this is >>>where Delphi still is way aheaed IMHO).

That and the fact that FP has serious issues with some serious large EXE >>files.

That is only for people that don't read FAQs

Really? It seems I've read more than my share of FAQ's on the
subject. It just does not seem to help, much..


Jamie..


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From: Rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com>

Hi,

On Apr 18, 6:46 pm, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:

Marco van de Voort wrote:> On 2011-04-17, Jamie

<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:

What FreePascal really could use is it's own native debugger (this is >>>where Delphi still is way aheaed IMHO).

That and the fact that FP has serious issues with some serious large EXE >>files.

That is only for people that don't read FAQs

Really? It seems I've read more than my share of FAQ's on the
subject. It just does not seem to help, much..

When was the last version you tested? Are you talking about in general
or via Lazarus? If you haven't tried since a year or so, you may want
to try again: the internal linker on Win32 improves things a lot. In particular, see "smartlinking": -CX, -XX -Xs, -Os, etc.

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From: Marco van de Voort <marcov@turtle.stack.nl>

On 2011-04-18, Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote: >> That is only for people that don't read FAQs

Really? It seems I've read more than my share of FAQ's on the
subject. It just does not seem to help, much..

It works in general for heaps of people. It could be that you are doing something wrong, have outdated configs that obscure the vision (specially upgrading Lazarus is not fool proof, and I recommend to verify
deinstallation of the old one, including config directories before
installing a new one)

So IMHO you shouldn't state such things as universal truth, while it might
be a problem of your configuration.

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From: "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com>

Perhaps I will not continue this project, unless I get some help from
others.

Because it's quite a lot of work and Lazarus seems to be quite good now...
at least is supports fpc 2.4.2 and is out of beta...

So me give that a try for my purposes though it would still be nice to have free pascal compiling in Delphi.

However Lazarus does have some IDE features which Delphi does not have so it could be interesting to use Lazarus for a while...

But this is all new so my oppinion about Lazarus might change... but for now it seems sufficient for doing what I want ! ;) =D

And that is adding my own target to it ! ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.



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From: Bart <broersma.juda_ANTISPAM_@tiscali.nl>

Op Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:53:59 +0200 schreef "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com>:

... and Lazarus seems to be quite good now...
at least is supports fpc 2.4.2 and is out of beta...

Lazarus does not support fpc 2.4.2.
The FreePascal compiler (2.4.2 or higher) is needed to build current
Lazarus.

A matter of semantics...

Bart
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broersma.juda_ANTISPAM_@tiscali.nl
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From: "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com>


"Bart" <broersma.juda_ANTISPAM_@tiscali.nl> wrote in message news:ho73r6dmb3rm6u0df2mqoin56ff93manqu@4ax.com...

Op Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:53:59 +0200 schreef "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com>:

... and Lazarus seems to be quite good now...
at least is supports fpc 2.4.2 and is out of beta...

Lazarus does not support fpc 2.4.2.
The FreePascal compiler (2.4.2 or higher) is needed to build current
Lazarus.

A matter of semantics...

What I ment is "Lazarus comes with fpc 2.4.2 and in that regard it supports fpc 2.4.2 or in other words it uses fpc 2.4.2 binaries to compile the user sources".

So the developer of Lazarus thinks fpc 2.4.2 is a good thing and uses it instead of an older version like fpc 2.2.0 or so...

Perhaps there are differences between fpc 2.4.2 and fpc 2.2.0 so it's good
to know that Lazarus uses the latest one and has no issues with it ! ;)

So again in that sense Lazarus supports the latest fpc 2.4.2 command line...

It's especially nice for me at least since I also use fpc 2.4.2 sources ! ;) =D

Bye,
Skybuck.



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