• Active or dead?

    From Steven Sheeley@1:275/97 to All on Thu Oct 27 07:55:18 2016
    Hello everybody!

    Is this echo still active or is it dead?

    Steven


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Steven Sheeley on Thu Oct 27 14:08:35 2016
    Hi Steven,

    On 2016-10-27 07:55:18, you wrote to All:

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    Hello everybody!

    Is this echo still active or is it dead?

    Steven


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    It gets around! ;)

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Steven Sheeley on Thu Oct 27 14:27:22 2016
    27 Oct 16 07:55, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 1:275/97 5811eb41
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    Hello everybody!

    Is this echo still active or is it dead?

    Steven


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  • From Tony Master@1:218/530 to Steven Sheeley on Thu Oct 27 11:53:50 2016
    On 10/27/16, Steven Sheeley said the following...
    Hello everybody!
    Is this echo still active or is it dead?

    i don't know. i posted here ;)

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    |11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Steven Sheeley on Fri Oct 28 06:44:00 2016
    Steven Sheeley wrote to All <=-

    Is this echo still active or is it dead?

    Has been active the last few days. I see you finally made it to the party! :-)

    ... EVERYONE is weird. Some of us just show it off more!

    Love it. :)


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  • From Andy Ball@1:261/38 to Steven Sheeley on Sun Oct 30 00:25:54 2016
    Hello Steven,

    SS> Is this echo still active or is it dead?

    It is nailed to the perch.

    -Andy Ball.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Andy Ball on Sun Oct 30 16:35:00 2016
    Andy Ball wrote to Steven Sheeley <=-

    SS> Is this echo still active or is it dead?

    It is nailed to the perch.

    Maybe we need to get some Pascal discussion happening. :)


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  • From Steven Sheeley@1:275/97 to Tony Langdon on Sun Oct 30 09:14:05 2016
    Hello Tony!

    Replying to a msg dated 30 Oct 16 16:35, from you to Andy Ball.

    I'm just bstarting to program in Pascal again after 25+ years. Used to do some utilities and stuff when I ran Split Infinity back in the day. Now I'm writing a Log Utility fopr BBSes and thinking abnout creating a new game as well and possibly taking on updating the Argus Mailer code base.


    Steven


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Steven Sheeley on Mon Oct 31 08:08:00 2016
    Steven Sheeley wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I'm just bstarting to program in Pascal again after 25+ years. Used to
    do some utilities and stuff when I ran Split Infinity back in the day.
    Now I'm writing a Log Utility fopr BBSes and thinking abnout creating a new game as well and possibly taking on updating the Argus Mailer code base.

    Yeah I'm starting back on the Pascal wagon too, after around 25 years out of it myself. As well as testing your software, I'm interested in writing a couple of small network daemons for simple inter-system communication for some specific applications I have. I was using some C code that I hacked to sort of work, but it had too many issues, and my C knowledge isn't up to fixing those issues. Pascal is a better bet. Even reading code snippets, it's coming back to me. :)


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  • From Steven Sheeley@1:275/97 to Tony Langdon on Sun Oct 30 20:48:50 2016
    Hello Tony!

    Replying to a msg dated 31 Oct 16 08:08, from you to me.

    Need to get some copies of BinkD logs from you. My InetRex key is on it's way so I'll have those plus everything else. I have Mystic running as well now.


    Steven


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Steven Sheeley on Tue Nov 1 07:07:00 2016
    Steven Sheeley wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Need to get some copies of BinkD logs from you. My InetRex key is on
    it's way so I'll have those plus everything else. I have Mystic running
    as well now.

    What's your email?


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  • From Steven Sheeley@1:275/97 to Tony Langdon on Mon Oct 31 21:49:26 2016
    Hello Tony!

    01 Nov 16 07:07, you wrote to me:

    Steven Sheeley wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Need to get some copies of BinkD logs from you. My InetRex key is
    on it's way so I'll have those plus everything else. I have
    Mystic running as well now.

    What's your email?


    steven[dot]sheeley[at]gmail[dot]com


    Steven


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Steven Sheeley on Tue Nov 1 22:34:00 2016
    Steven Sheeley wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    What's your email?


    steven[dot]sheeley[at]gmail[dot]com

    Arrrrgh, I hate munged addresses, would have preferred you netmailed it to me. I'm hurridly catching up on stuff, so any extra manual intervention is going to get sidelined.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Tony Langdon on Wed Nov 2 07:49:00 2016
    Tony Langdon wrote to Steven Sheeley <=-


    steven[dot]sheeley[at]gmail[dot]com

    Now that I've got a bit more time, I'm preparing some sample logs. Was about to send them, then realised they are in Unix format, which might not play nice on a Windows system, unless your code can deal with both Unix and Windows end of lone conventions. :) I might see if I can put them in both formats. :)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Tue Nov 1 20:28:14 2016
    02 Nov 16 07:49, you wrote to you:

    Now that I've got a bit more time, I'm preparing some sample logs.
    Was about to send them, then realised they are in Unix format, which
    might not play nice on a Windows system, unless your code can deal
    with both Unix and Windows end of lone conventions. :) I might see if
    I can put them in both formats. :)

    if the tool is written in freepascal, it will likely handle the EOL just fine... i have a project here that is written in FPC and it works fine on native OS/2 and winwhatever... i copied the code over to a linux box and pulled
    the data files in and it read them just fine with no dancing about with EOLs...
    the data files come in in zips and are unzipped with no special options give...
    especially not the one to change EOLs...

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Wed Nov 2 16:42:00 2016
    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    if the tool is written in freepascal, it will likely handle the EOL
    just fine... i have a project here that is written in FPC and it works fine on native OS/2 and winwhatever... i copied the code over to a
    linux box and pulled the data files in and it read them just fine with
    no dancing about with EOLs... the data files come in in zips and are unzipped with no special options give... especially not the one to
    change EOLs...

    Even when the file is from a foreign OS? (e.g. Windows text file on Linuxx and vicew versa).


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Wed Nov 2 10:36:52 2016
    02 Nov 16 16:42, you wrote to me:

    if the tool is written in freepascal, it will likely handle the EOL
    just fine... i have a project here that is written in FPC and it
    works fine on native OS/2 and winwhatever... i copied the code over
    to a linux box and pulled the data files in and it read them just
    fine with no dancing about with EOLs... the data files come in in
    zips and are unzipped with no special options give... especially not
    the one to change EOLs...

    Even when the file is from a foreign OS? (e.g. Windows text file on
    Linuxx and vicew versa).

    AFAIK, yes... i have no clue what OS the data files my project works with are created on or what kind of transfers and conversions may happen before the data
    is zipped... we use a script that pulls the zips from the remote server(s) and unzips it... then my project takes existing data in locally processed text files and loads in the new data from the remote server... it hasn't cared about
    EOLs on any systems i've run the project on... each one pulls the data archives
    from the remote server(s) and off we go to the races...

    [time passes]

    i just took a look and i have data files with 0xOa and 0x0d0a EOLs... they are all read with no problem... output files from my project take the EOL for the system it is running on so a 999 line output file on the linux box will be 999 bytes smaller than the exact same output file created on a winwhatever or OS/2 box... the difference being, of course, that 0x0d is not there...

    now, if one must have the same EOL, that's easy enough to do... IIRC, there's one system variable that you can ""override"" to make it use 0x0d0a for EOL on all systems... or you can go for 0x0a on all or even 0x0a0d (older mac eol) if you desire...

    FPC is very flexible when it comes to plain ASCII text files using the traditional readln and writeln routines... now, if you want to use that UTF-8 mess, it is a whole other story...


    FWIW: my project is a TLE processor... if anyone knows what a TLE is, they will
    have an idea of what my project does ;)

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Thu Nov 3 07:40:00 2016
    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    AFAIK, yes... i have no clue what OS the data files my project works
    with are created on or what kind of transfers and conversions may
    happen before the data is zipped... we use a script that pulls the zips from the remote server(s) and unzips it... then my project takes
    existing data in locally processed text files and loads in the new data from the remote server... it hasn't cared about EOLs on any systems
    i've run the project on... each one pulls the data archives from the remote server(s) and off we go to the races...

    Cool, that's even better. :) My guess would have been that FPB would have defaulted to behaviour native to the OS the binary was compiled for. Looks like there won't be any cross platform issues with text files.

    now, if one must have the same EOL, that's easy enough to do... IIRC, there's one system variable that you can ""override"" to make it use 0x0d0a for EOL on all systems... or you can go for 0x0a on all or even 0x0a0d (older mac eol) if you desire...

    Nah, just wanted to make sure we can read logs from different systems without error. :) I sent Steven samples of the same log extract in Windows and Unix format, so he should be able to confirm this.

    FPC is very flexible when it comes to plain ASCII text files using the traditional readln and writeln routines... now, if you want to use that UTF-8 mess, it is a whole other story...

    AFAIK, logs are in plain ASCII. :-)


    FWIW: my project is a TLE processor... if anyone knows what a TLE is,
    they will have an idea of what my project does ;)

    Tracking satellites, are we? ;)

    Yep, I do know what TLEs are, and have used them many times. :-)


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  • From Gene Buckle@1:138/142 to Tony Langdon on Tue Nov 1 10:15:51 2016
    Re: Re: Active or dead?
    By: Tony Langdon to Steven Sheeley on Tue Nov 01 2016 10:34 pm

    Give this a shot guys: http://michalis.ii.uni.wroc.pl/~michalis/modern_pascal_introduction/modern_pasc al_introduction.pdf

    This covers FPC/Lazarus and Delphi.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Wed Nov 2 21:01:06 2016
    03 Nov 16 07:40, you wrote to me:

    FWIW: my project is a TLE processor... if anyone knows what a TLE is,
    they will have an idea of what my project does ;)

    Tracking satellites, are we? ;)

    absolutely! caught 15 visually tonight... that's about average around here but if we were able to shoot^H^H^H^H^Hturn out some lights, we'd have a darker sky and likely catch maybe 10 more ;)

    Yep, I do know what TLEs are, and have used them many times. :-)

    my project was mainly designed to replace orbitel because of its ancient DOS (and BASIC) limitations... especially considering that orbitel could not create
    a full TLE list with all current satellites in it...

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Gene Buckle on Thu Nov 3 14:54:00 2016
    Gene Buckle wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Give this a shot guys: http://michalis.ii.uni.wroc.pl/~michalis/modern_pascal_introduction/mode rn_pasc
    al_introduction.pdf

    This covers FPC/Lazarus and Delphi.

    Thanks, looks good, saved a copy. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Thu Nov 3 14:56:00 2016
    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Tracking satellites, are we? ;)

    absolutely! caught 15 visually tonight... that's about average around
    here but if we were able to shoot^H^H^H^H^Hturn out some lights, we'd
    have a darker sky and likely catch maybe 10 more ;)

    Cool. I have a habit of being able to look up at a random time and see satellites. :D One night, I managed 3 immediately. :)

    Yep, I do know what TLEs are, and have used them many times. :-)

    my project was mainly designed to replace orbitel because of its
    ancient DOS (and BASIC) limitations... especially considering that
    orbitel could not create a full TLE list with all current satellites in it...

    I don't know Orbitel. I've used Predict a little in recent years.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Thu Nov 3 10:58:34 2016
    03 Nov 16 14:56, you wrote to me:

    my project was mainly designed to replace orbitel because of its
    ancient DOS (and BASIC) limitations... especially considering that
    orbitel could not create a full TLE list with all current satellites
    in it...

    I don't know Orbitel. I've used Predict a little in recent years.

    orbitel is another of dave ransom's (RIP) tools like his STSPLUS which i still use on a few machines... orbitel takes the TLE files and combines them and splits them out however you want but it has a problem with memory since it is written in the ancient days with the 64k limit... with all my TLEs, orbitel only output maybe 1500 of them whereas my project, which is limited only by system memory, outputs all 16707 active ones i have TLEs for as well as all 37899 TLEs i have available for both flying and down craft... no way that orbitel can touch that without a lot of manual help slicing and dicing...

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Fri Nov 4 06:29:00 2016
    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    orbitel is another of dave ransom's (RIP) tools like his STSPLUS which
    i still use on a few machines... orbitel takes the TLE files and
    combines them and splits them out however you want but it has a problem with memory since it is written in the ancient days with the 64k
    limit... with all my TLEs, orbitel only output maybe 1500 of them
    whereas my project, which is limited only by system memory, outputs all 16707 active ones i have TLEs for as well as all 37899 TLEs i have available for both flying and down craft... no way that orbitel can
    touch that without a lot of manual help slicing and dicing...

    Yep, I can see the reason for writing your software, the 64k segment limit in DOS was a pain. I did encounter that issue once or twice. Back in the TP/DOS days, I had to use various techniques to work around it. :)


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  • From Andy Ball@1:261/38 to Tony Langdon on Mon Nov 7 16:55:10 2016
    Hello Tony,

    TL> Maybe we need to get some Pascal discussion
    > happening. :)

    I should probably look for a Pascal compiler.
    -Andy Ball

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  • From Andy Ball@1:261/38 to Tony Langdon on Mon Nov 7 16:58:46 2016
    Hello Tony,

    TL> Was about to send them, then realised they are in Unix
    > format, which might not play nice on a Windows system,

    I find that Wordpad on Windows is able to open text
    files with unix line endings (LF).

    -Andy Ball

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Andy Ball on Tue Nov 8 10:27:00 2016
    Andy Ball wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    TL> Maybe we need to get some Pascal discussion
    > happening. :)

    I should probably look for a Pascal compiler.

    Free Pascal! :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Andy Ball on Tue Nov 8 10:29:00 2016
    Andy Ball wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I find that Wordpad on Windows is able to open text
    files with unix line endings (LF).

    Yes, Wordpad works, but I was talking more about code we write reading text files properly. However, from what others say, seems FPC is pretty clever when it comes to dealing with different EOL conventions. :)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Andy Ball on Mon Nov 7 18:29:12 2016
    07 Nov 16 16:55, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

    Maybe we need to get some Pascal discussion happening. :)

    I should probably look for a Pascal compiler.

    no need to look any further than

    http://www.freepascal.org/

    ;)

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  • From Steven Sheeley@1:275/97 to mark lewis on Mon Nov 7 21:08:12 2016
    Hello mark!

    07 Nov 16 18:29, you wrote to Andy Ball:



    no need to look any further than
    http://www.freepascal.org/
    ;)

    That's what I am using to write Wycket and I also use the Lazarus IDE. The forums are VERY helpful.

    Steven


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Steven Sheeley on Tue Nov 8 02:07:38 2016
    07 Nov 16 21:08, you wrote to me:

    no need to look any further than
    http://www.freepascal.org/
    ;)

    That's what I am using to write Wycket and I also use the Lazarus IDE.
    The
    forums are VERY helpful.

    yes, lazarus is an excellent development environment... i understand that MSEIDE is also extremely nice and offers some things (library code) that lazarus does not have...

    for support, i much prefer the mailing lists, though... i don't have to go wading through the morass... no advertisments... posts are delivered to my email where they are filtered into their own folder... i can search them for whatever i need at any time without having to be online... the mailing lists are also available as news from gmane if one wants them in that format...

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Andy Ball on Tue Nov 8 07:47:00 2016
    I find that Wordpad on Windows is able to open text
    files with unix line endings (LF).

    notepad++ is a pretty good windows-compatable editor that handles various
    line endings and large files.

    Mike

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Wed Nov 9 08:00:00 2016
    mark lewis wrote to Steven Sheeley <=-

    for support, i much prefer the mailing lists, though... i don't have to
    go wading through the morass... no advertisments... posts are delivered
    to my email where they are filtered into their own folder... i can
    search them for whatever i need at any time without having to be
    online... the mailing lists are also available as news from gmane if
    one wants them in that format...

    I'm with you. In fact, "forums" and "good support" are almost an oxymoron to me, because the medium is so awful to use, even if the people on them do a good job. Give me a good old mailing list anyday, or echomail. :-)

    I must subscribe to some good FPC


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  • From Rodrigo Cesar Banhara@4:801/188 to Steven Sheeley on Tue Nov 29 17:01:09 2016
    Steven Sheeley wrote to All <=-

    Hello everybody!

    Hello, Steven!

    Is this echo still active or is it dead?

    I am reading it. =D

    Yet trying to post my first post. =DDD

    I am Brazilian, so not so easy is the use of language for me. =D

    Steven

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  • From Rodrigo Cesar Banhara@4:801/188 to Steven Sheeley on Tue Nov 29 17:01:09 2016
    Steven Sheeley wrote to Tony Langdon <=-


    Hello Tony!

    Replying to a msg dated 30 Oct 16 16:35, from you to Andy Ball.

    I'm just bstarting to program in Pascal again after 25+ years. Used to

    Wow, fantastic !!!! =D

    do some utilities and stuff when I ran Split Infinity back in the day.
    Now I'm writing a Log Utility fopr BBSes and thinking abnout creating a new game as well and possibly taking on updating the Argus Mailer code base.

    I will write my own utils too !!! =DDD

    Steven

    Just call me Rodrigo Cesar. =DDDD

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/18 to Andy Ball on Mon Dec 12 07:25:06 2016
    I should probably look for a Pascal compiler.

    FreePascal is a decent one and one that I use quite often - http://www.freepascal.org

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  • From Andy Ball@1:261/38 to Robert Wolfe on Thu Dec 15 23:38:52 2016
    RW> FreePascal is a decent one and one that I use quite often -
    > http://www.freepascal.org

    Thanks Robert. A few people have suggested that. I'll see whether I can find a book for it.
    -Andy Ball.

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/18 to Andy Ball on Sat Dec 17 09:57:02 2016
    On Dec 15, 2016 11:43pm, Andy Ball wrote to Robert Wolfe:

    RW>> FreePascal is a decent one and one that I use quite often -
    >> http://www.freepascal.org

    Thanks Robert. A few people have suggested that. I'll see whether I can find a book for it.
    -Andy Ball.

    If you can find a book on Delphi and Borland or Turbo Pascal, you are pretty much most of the way there.

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  • From Andy Ball@1:261/38 to Robert Wolfe on Wed Dec 21 22:49:06 2016
    RW> f you can find a book on Delphi and Borland or Turbo Pascal,
    > you are pretty much most of the way there.

    There are bound to be some differences though, not least when it comes to external libraries.

    -Andy Ball.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Andy Ball on Thu Dec 22 07:09:54 2016
    21 Dec 16 22:49, you wrote to Robert Wolfe:

    f you can find a book on Delphi and Borland or Turbo Pascal, you are
    pretty much most of the way there.

    There are bound to be some differences though,

    yes there are some but when using FPC in {$mode delphi}, the API and the results are generally the same... the internal methods of getting those results
    is generally different, though...

    not least when it comes to external libraries.

    what do you mean by "external libraries"?? the runtime libraries or other 3rd party libraries?

    oh, and for books i saw this in the "Free Pascal / Lazarus IDE" community on G+
    the other day...

    ===== snip =====
    Marc Hanisch (dubst3pp4) owner
    Books and Magazines - Yesterday 6:21 AM

    As every year some days before Christmas Packt Publishing sells every eBook and
    video course for just $5. Among some Delphi books also the title Getting Started with Lazarus IDE, which targets Lazarus newcomers and ex-Delphi-users.

    https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/getting-started-lazarus-ide ===== snip =====

    i don't know what Blaise does, if anything, but they have a book, too...

    http://www.blaisepascal.eu/subscribers/UK/UK_Book_Department_LearnToProgramUsingLazarus.html

    or http://tinyurl.com/zzhtju4

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  • From Andy Ball@1:261/38 to Mark Lewis on Tue Dec 27 22:25:14 2016
    Hello Mark,

    ML> what do you mean by "external libraries"??
    > the runtime libraries or other 3rd party
    > libraries?

    Curses, progressql etc.

    Thanks for the book suggestions.

    -Andy Ball

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