• BinkD

    From Netsurge@1:229/101 to g00r00 on Sat Feb 22 16:44:14 2020
    g00r00,

    Does Mystic's BinkP server support FTS-5004: the DNS Distributed Nodelist ?

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  • From Netsurge@1:229/101 to g00r00 on Sat Feb 22 20:52:04 2020
    Its on the TODO list and I don't anticipate it taking too much effort to add support for the lookup portion, but I haven't done it yet.

    If its something you'll use I can get it in there pretty soon, assuming
    I have access to a DNS to test with.

    The main hub for SciNet isn't running Mystic's BinkD server, but I do have a lot of downlinks who do. No rush, it was more curiosity.

    As for DNS to test with, SciNet meets the FTS spec for distributed DNS, scinet-ftn.org.

    Which now leads me to ask, when will we see you in SciNet, lol.

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  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to Netsurge on Sun Feb 23 08:00:28 2020

    Does Mystic's BinkP server support FTS-5004: the DNS Distributed
    Nodelist ?

    Its on the TODO list and I don't anticipate it taking too much effort to add support for the lookup portion, but I haven't done it yet.

    If its something you'll use I can get it in there pretty soon, assuming I have access to a DNS to test with.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Netsurge on Sun Feb 23 12:45:22 2020
    Re: Re: BinkD
    By: Netsurge to g00r00 on Sat Feb 22 2020 20:52:04


    As for DNS to test with, SciNet meets the FTS spec for distributed
    DNS, scinet-ftn.org.

    cool! that makes 4 out of 70 FTNs i know of that support DNS lookups for their nodes :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to g00r00 on Mon Feb 24 08:06:00 2020
    On 02-23-20 08:00, g00r00 wrote to Netsurge <=-


    Does Mystic's BinkP server support FTS-5004: the DNS Distributed
    Nodelist ?

    Its on the TODO list and I don't anticipate it taking too much effort
    to add support for the lookup portion, but I haven't done it yet.

    If its something you'll use I can get it in there pretty soon, assuming
    I have access to a DNS to test with.

    What do you need to test, specifically?


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Netsurge on Mon Feb 24 08:09:00 2020
    On 02-22-20 20:52, Netsurge wrote to g00r00 <=-

    Its on the TODO list and I don't anticipate it taking too much effort to add support for the lookup portion, but I haven't done it yet.

    If its something you'll use I can get it in there pretty soon, assuming
    I have access to a DNS to test with.

    The main hub for SciNet isn't running Mystic's BinkD server, but I do
    have a lot of downlinks who do. No rush, it was more curiosity.

    Ironically, VKRadio's hub does run Mystic, and I run DNS lookups in ftn.vkradio.com, so ironically, my hub can't use the distributed nodelist. But other nodes, including my Synchronet system can use it.

    As for DNS to test with, SciNet meets the FTS spec for distributed DNS, scinet-ftn.org.

    Which now leads me to ask, when will we see you in SciNet, lol.

    Still on my todo list too lol.


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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to mark lewis on Mon Feb 24 21:38:40 2020
    On 23 Feb 2020 at 12:45p, mark lewis pondered and said...

    cool! that makes 4 out of 70 FTNs i know of that support DNS lookups for their nodes :)

    which ones are they Mark?

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Paul Hayton on Mon Feb 24 10:22:34 2020
    Re: Re: BinkD
    By: Paul Hayton to mark lewis on Mon Feb 24 2020 21:38:40


    cool! that makes 4 out of 70 FTNs i know of that support DNS
    lookups for their nodes :)

    which ones are they Mark?

    Domain DNS Lookup Domain Zone(s)
    -------- ----------------- ---------
    fidonet binkp.net 1-6
    fsxnet fsxnet.nz 21
    scinet scinet-ftn.org 77
    vkradio ftn.vkradio.com 432


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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to mark lewis on Wed Feb 26 18:22:14 2020
    24 Feb 20 10:22, you wrote to Paul Hayton:

    cool! that makes 4 out of 70 FTNs i know of that support DNS
    lookups for their nodes :)

    which ones are they Mark?

    Domain DNS Lookup Domain Zone(s)
    -------- ----------------- ---------
    fidonet binkp.net 1-6
    fsxnet fsxnet.nz 21
    scinet scinet-ftn.org 77
    vkradio ftn.vkradio.com 432

    -1, fsxnet.nz is still broken for non-standard ports (and the main hub is on port 24556)

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Oli on Wed Feb 26 13:51:31 2020
    Re: BinkD
    By: Oli to mark lewis on Wed Feb 26 2020 18:22:14


    Domain DNS Lookup Domain Zone(s)
    -------- ----------------- ---------
    fidonet binkp.net 1-6
    fsxnet fsxnet.nz 21
    scinet scinet-ftn.org 77
    vkradio ftn.vkradio.com 432

    -1, fsxnet.nz is still broken for non-standard ports (and the main hub is
    on port 24556)

    what do you mean by broken? specifically, please...


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  • From Netsurge@1:229/101 to mark lewis on Wed Feb 26 16:28:18 2020
    what do you mean by broken? specifically, please...

    I think he means it isn't meeting the basic requirements of FTS-5004.

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Oli on Thu Feb 27 12:54:16 2020
    On 26 Feb 2020 at 06:22p, Oli pondered and said...

    -1, fsxnet.nz is still broken for non-standard ports (and the main hub
    is on port 24556)

    Thanks Oli. Are you meaning the HUBs (there's more than one) should be on 24554? Or do you mean that the zone file should reflect that if HUBs are not on port 24554 then it should be reflected in the zone file as per FTS-5004 ?

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  • From Netsurge@1:229/101 to Paul Hayton on Wed Feb 26 18:57:34 2020
    Thanks Oli. Are you meaning the HUBs (there's more than one) should be on 24554? Or do you mean that the zone file should reflect that if HUBs are not on port 24554 then it should be reflected in the zone file as per FTS-5004 ?

    If it isn't a standard port, be it binkp, ftp, emsi, etc.. it should have a
    SRV record.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Oli on Thu Feb 27 13:27:00 2020
    On 02-26-20 18:22, Oli wrote to mark lewis <=-

    24 Feb 20 10:22, you wrote to Paul Hayton:

    cool! that makes 4 out of 70 FTNs i know of that support DNS
    lookups for their nodes :)

    which ones are they Mark?

    Domain DNS Lookup Domain Zone(s)
    -------- ----------------- ---------
    fidonet binkp.net 1-6
    fsxnet fsxnet.nz 21
    scinet scinet-ftn.org 77
    vkradio ftn.vkradio.com 432

    -1, fsxnet.nz is still broken for non-standard ports (and the main hub
    is on port 24556)

    Yep, fsxnet.nz still needs some SRV records, especially for its /1 hub, so I would agree, it is currently broken.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Thu Feb 27 13:29:00 2020
    On 02-26-20 13:51, mark lewis wrote to Oli <=-

    -1, fsxnet.nz is still broken for non-standard ports (and the main hub is

    on port 24556)

    what do you mean by broken? specifically, please...

    Oli is referring to the lack of SRV records for fsxnet.nz, which makes systems on non standard ports (for any listed protocol) unreachable when using DNS lookups. This is a particularly serious issue, because one of the main hubs uses a non standard port.


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  • From Netsurge@1:229/101 to Tony Langdon on Wed Feb 26 22:09:58 2020
    Yep, fsxnet.nz still needs some SRV records, especially for its /1 hub,
    so I would agree, it is currently broken.

    As it stands, if someone was using a domain alias for fsxnet.nz in binkd or argus or any other binkp server and tried to use the dns lookup mail would never get to Avon.

    This is a serious issue as it would impede mail flow to him and everyone else who is using a non standard port on any I** flag.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Netsurge on Thu Feb 27 21:14:00 2020
    On 02-26-20 22:09, Netsurge wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Yep, fsxnet.nz still needs some SRV records, especially for its /1 hub,
    so I would agree, it is currently broken.

    As it stands, if someone was using a domain alias for fsxnet.nz in
    binkd or argus or any other binkp server and tried to use the dns
    lookup mail would never get to Avon.

    Exactly.

    This is a serious issue as it would impede mail flow to him and
    everyone else who is using a non standard port on any I** flag.

    I agree. VKRadio does have SRV records for systems using non standard ports. It's only FSXnet that doesn't.


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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Tony Langdon on Thu Feb 27 08:25:01 2020
    27 Feb 20 13:29, you wrote to mark lewis:

    -1, fsxnet.nz is still broken for non-standard ports (and the main hub is

    on port 24556)

    what do you mean by broken? specifically, please...

    Oli is referring to the lack of SRV records for fsxnet.nz, which makes
    systems
    on non standard ports (for any listed protocol) unreachable when using DNS lookups. This is a particularly serious issue, because one of the main
    hubs
    uses a non standard port.

    Interestingly, my binkd (latest version with FTS-5004 enabeled) doesn't try to lookup SRV records at all. I don't know if it is a specific problem on my system or if it is a bug in binkd. I wouldn't be surprised if nobody else recognized it, because only a few nodes use binkp.net and only a few nodes are on non-standard ports.

    The missing SRV records don't seem to be an issue in fsxnet, because maybe nobody uses it.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Oli on Fri Feb 28 09:17:00 2020
    On 02-27-20 08:25, Oli wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Interestingly, my binkd (latest version with FTS-5004 enabeled) doesn't try to lookup SRV records at all. I don't know if it is a specific

    Hmm, that's interesting. Might have to test this myself at some stage. I have a whole net with some hosts having SRV records to play with.

    problem on my system or if it is a bug in binkd. I wouldn't be
    surprised if nobody else recognized it, because only a few nodes use binkp.net and only a few nodes are on non-standard ports.

    I do use binkp.net, though in practice, only if I have to send crash netmail to other nodes. :)

    The missing SRV records don't seem to be an issue in fsxnet, because
    maybe nobody uses it.

    Maybe that's the case now, but the implmentations still need to adhere to the standard.


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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Tony Langdon on Fri Feb 28 12:22:07 2020
    On 28 Feb 2020 at 09:17a, Tony Langdon pondered and said...

    The missing SRV records don't seem to be an issue in fsxnet, because maybe nobody uses it.

    Maybe that's the case now, but the implmentations still need to adhere
    to the standard.

    Have another check please :)

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Paul Hayton on Fri Feb 28 15:03:00 2020
    On 02-28-20 12:22, Paul Hayton wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    On 28 Feb 2020 at 09:17a, Tony Langdon pondered and said...

    The missing SRV records don't seem to be an issue in fsxnet, because maybe nobody uses it.

    Maybe that's the case now, but the implmentations still need to adhere
    to the standard.

    Have another check please :)

    I'll have a peek. :)

    _binkp._tcp.f100.n1.z21.fsxnet.nz
    Server: 127.0.1.1
    Address: 127.0.1.1#53

    Non-authoritative answer:
    _binkp._tcp.f100.n1.z21.fsxnet.nz service = 0 0 24556 agency.bbs.nz.


    That looks better.No A or AAAA records, looks like you're using the same script as me. :) But at least the SRV is there.


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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Tony Langdon on Fri Feb 28 19:23:36 2020
    On 28 Feb 2020 at 03:03p, Tony Langdon pondered and said...

    That looks better.No A or AAAA records, looks like you're using the same script as me. :) But at least the SRV is there.

    Thanks it's a work in process. I am going to take this thread over to fsxNet now as we're not really talking about anything to do with Mystic now.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Paul Hayton on Fri Feb 28 17:54:00 2020
    On 02-28-20 19:23, Paul Hayton wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    On 28 Feb 2020 at 03:03p, Tony Langdon pondered and said...

    That looks better.No A or AAAA records, looks like you're using the same script as me. :) But at least the SRV is there.

    Thanks it's a work in process. I am going to take this thread over to fsxNet now as we're not really talking about anything to do with Mystic now.

    FSX_NET? :)


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