• Re: Seen-by/Paths

    From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Ian Segers on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
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    more help wth seen-by/paths/zone 4 please

    I was sure we got this working ok but another problem
    has came up ie when I post a message the seen-by shows all
    network number I have in seen-by, I have fidonet,whispnet\league10
    so is there a option in toggle option in sbbsecho.cfg so it only put there own networks and not the other networks as well in seen-by.

    Did you manually edit your sbbsecho.cfg file and add ZONE_BLIND 4?


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Ian Segers on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
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    On 12/03/2016 1:33 p.m., Bill McGarrity wrote:
    Ian Segers wrote to All <=-



    IS> more help wth seen-by/paths/zone 4 please

    IS> I was sure we got this working ok but another problem
    IS> has came up ie when I post a message the seen-by shows all
    IS> network number I have in seen-by, I have fidonet,whispnet\league10
    IS> so is there a option in toggle option in sbbsecho.cfg so it only put
    IS> there own networks and not the other networks as well in seen-by.

    Did you manually edit your sbbsecho.cfg file and add ZONE_BLIND 4?

    No I didn't not manualy edit the sbbsecho.cfg I went through sbbsecho.exe sbbsecho.cfg via the toggle option I can but were
    do I put it ie here is my sbbsecho.cfg

    NOPATHCHECK
    NOTIFY 1
    CONVERT_TEAR
    STORE_SEENBY
    STORE_PATH
    SYSOP_ALIAS SYSOP
    LOG NONE
    LOG_LEVEL 6

    [snip]

    You can put it anywhere... first in line if you'd like.... just add:

    ZONE_BLIND 4

    You can use a text editor... :)


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
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    Re: Re: Seen-by/Paths
    By: Bill McGarrity to Ian Segers on Fri Mar 11 2016 19:33:00

    Did you manually edit your sbbsecho.cfg file and add ZONE_BLIND 4?


    Als make sure that you have the latest sbbsecho. otherwise the 4 will keep disappearing.


    I've told him numerous times to update but seems he doesn't listen. :/


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
    Re: Re: Seen-by/Paths
    By: Joe Delahaye to Bill McGarrity on Sat Mar 12 2016 20:47:18

    Hiya Joe...

    Or is so concentrated on his problem at hand, that it does not sink
    in <G> I know I was one version behind, and several days later
    probably another version behind <G>

    Yup... you are.. :)

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Sneaky on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
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    Als make sure that you have the latest sbbsecho. otherwise the 4 will keep disappearing.


    I've told him numerous times to update but seems he doesn't listen. :/


    Yes I have updated sbbsecho.exe ver2.33 and does work fine, but I
    have a problem
    with it, so perhaps you and all sbbs sysop might beable to help me
    with.

    Here is my problem, it's to with routing the packets, I use fd2ftp to put hem
    into my link outbound Dir and then Irex will sent them, BUT fd2ftp doesn't

    Why are you using fd2ftp? It's been awhile since I've used IRex but I know at that time I was using *.MSG/attach and Irex handled it properly. Change everything over to that rather than binkley/FLO. sbbsecho will create the *.MSG and put the pkt in your outbound folder. Irex will do the rest. You're going to have to create a ROUTE.REX file similar to the following...

    route-to 1:261/38 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*
    crash-to 1:261/38
    except 2:203/*
    route-to 2:203/0 2:203/*
    crash-to 2:203/0
    crash-to 1:229/300
    crash-to 1:266/512 1:266/* 1:13/*
    crash-to 1:387/22
    crash-to 1:3634/1 1:3634/*
    crash-to 1:298/6
    crash-to 618:100/1
    route-to 316:77/1 316:*
    route-to 618:100/1 618:*

    Look in the docs for IRex to help you with this. So, everytime a *.MSG is addressed to 1:261/38, Irex will crash it to that address along with the attached pkt.

    work with sbbsecho.exe ver2.33 it puts the netmail pkt in the my link outbound Dir
    with the netmail saying d:\fd\outbound\aaaa.mo0 (pkt) but irex won't sent the
    pkt only the netmail, when it gets there it empty (no pkt) but with
    my version
    of sbbsecho.exe it works fine.

    Yes, because you're creating FLO style mail. IRex maybe set for Frontdoor style *.MSG/Attach

    Now this is the help I need from anyone or if you can help me, I
    really love
    to do with out fd2ftp altogether but if i don't use it, Irex won't pickup the
    netmail or echo pkts at all,so I need same settings in sbbs or irex
    to do hat


    Try what I said above. If you're dead set on using binkley/FLO style pkt's, then switch to binkd as your mailer.


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Ian Segers on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
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    @MSGID: <56E48D40.3617.2syncsyso@tequilamockingbirdonline.net>
    @TZ: 02d0
    Bill

    Did you manually edit your sbbsecho.cfg file and add ZONE_BLIND 4?

    No I didn't not manualy edit the sbbsecho.cfg I went through sbbsecho.exe sbbsecho.cfg via the toggle option I can but were
    do I put it ie here is my sbbsecho.cfg

    NOPATHCHECK
    NOTIFY 1
    CONVERT_TEAR
    STORE_SEENBY
    STORE_PATH
    SYSOP_ALIAS SYSOP
    LOG NONE
    LOG_LEVEL 6

    [snip]

    You can put it anywhere... first in line if you'd like.... just add:

    ZONE_BLIND 4

    Thank you, I have edited ZONE_BLIND 4 into my sbbsecho.cfg, so I sure
    you will let me now once you read this reply.

    This one looks good but there are a ton of nodes between you and I. I can't see any other networks in here but your best test would be to post in one of your other nets, such as whisper to see if it's still adding cross nets. I doubt it but let's see.

    X-FTN-AREA SYNC_SYSOPS
    X-FTN-MSGID 348.fidonet_syncsyso@3:770/330 1b49bd88
    X-FTN-PID Synchronet 3.16c-Win32 Aug 14 2015 MSC 1800
    X-FTN-TID SBBSecho 2.33-Win32 r1.280 Mar 6 2016 MSC 1800
    X-FTN-SEEN-BY 10/0 1 11/1 201 14/5 19/33 34/999 45/2 77/0 1 90/1 116/18
    20/3
    31
    X-FTN-SEEN-BY 123/500 128/187 138/389 393 140/0 1 2 218/700 226/50 230/150
    4
    0/1120
    X-FTN-SEEN-BY 249/303 261/38 100 266/404 267/155 282/1056 292/907 908 298/25 300/5 6
    X-FTN-SEEN-BY 300/12 320/219 340/0 10 100 101 200 400 700 800 360/100 393/68 396/45
    X-FTN-SEEN-BY 470/0 100 101 712/848 770/330 801/161 1000/3
    X-FTN-PATH 770/330 340/400 261/38



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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
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    Re: Re: Seen-by/Paths
    By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Sat Mar 12 2016 20:51:40

    in <G> I know I was one version behind, and several days later
    probably another version behind <G>

    Yup... you are.. :)


    2.33 is what I should be running. Downloaded it from the dailies two
    days ago.

    JD> That is what shows in your messages

    Yup, I'm running it....


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    You're not...


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
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    Re: Re: Seen-by/Paths
    By: Sneaky to Bill McGarrity on Sun Mar 13 2016 09:55:00

    Here is my problem, it's to with routing the packets, I use fd2ftp to put hem
    into my link outbound Dir and then Irex will sent them, BUT fd2ftp doesn't work with sbbsecho.exe ver2.33 it puts the netmail pkt in the my link outbound Dir
    with the netmail saying d:\fd\outbound\aaaa.mo0 (pkt) but irex won't sent the
    pkt only the netmail, when it gets there it empty (no pkt) but with my version of sbbsecho.exe it works fine.

    Is there a specific reason you are using FTP? Irex will do FTP
    transfers no problem and pick them up from whatever directory you
    specify. You set the node it is going to as being FTP rather the FD or BSO. Irex also has a routing table. At the moment I am not certain if you can manually add the routing to the text file, or if you have to
    use the cofiguration utility

    That's another issue I never thought of. Is he using Irex as a FTP server for pkts or binkd server? He sould be using binkd both in and out.


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Sneaky on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
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    Joe Delahaye

    Re: Re: Seen-by/Paths
    By: Sneaky to Bill McGarrity on Sun Mar 13 2016 09:55:00

    with the netmail saying d:\fd\outbound\aaaa.mo0 (pkt) but irex won't sent the
    pkt only the netmail, when it gets there it empty (no pkt) but with my version of sbbsecho.exe it works fine.

    Is there a specific reason you are using FTP?

    In irex config in node manager peer link/ outbound/inbound
    configure
    it set on tss to and from binkp site, I use fd2ftp only to move
    echo
    packet from outbound to links mail dir set in links config to send
    the packet out.

    Irex will do FTP
    transfers no problem and pick them up from whatever directory you
    specify. You set the node it is going to as being FTP rather the FD or BSO.

    Yes I now this or have I got that wrong as well

    Irex also has a routing table. At the moment I am not certain if
    you can manually add the routing to the text file, or if you have to
    use the cofiguration utility

    Okay bill tells my that I have to create a route.rex for irex routing
    to
    not to use FD2FTP, Have to work on that.

    Tell us if you have the FTP daemon running or the Binkp daemon? You shuould reallu use the binkp.


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Sneaky on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
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    Why are you using fd2ftp?

    so I can move the echo.pkt from outbound to my links mail box
    for itex to sent to my link

    It's been awhile since I've used IRex but I
    know at that time I was using *.MSG/attach and Irex handled it
    properly. Change everything over to that rather than binkley/FLO. sbbsecho will create the *.MSG and put the pkt in your outbound folder.

    in sbbsecho.cfg I useing frontdoor/attach in irex in frontdoor mailer
    is
    set to frontdoor 2.12

    OK.. that's fine...


    Irex will do the rest. You're going to have to create a ROUTE.REX
    file similar to the following...

    okay that sounds good to me so here are my node numbers

    timelord link that I send all pkts
    1:340/400 my link fidonet
    10:10/1 league10
    316:77/1 whispnet

    next link
    avon
    3:770/1 my link fidonet
    3:770/100 echo mail

    next link
    21:1/100 my link fsxnet
    21:1/101 netmail only

    my nodes are
    3:770/330 Fidonet
    10:10/116 league10
    316:64/1 whispner
    21:1/115 fsxnet

    If you could lay it out for me them I might beable undrestand it
    Sorry I cannot find my irex.doc

    OK, try this...

    route-to 1:340/400 1:* 2:* 4:* (route all netmail thru Bob. OPT.)
    crash-to 3:*
    crash-to 1:340/400 (crash all mail to that node from your system)
    route-to 10:10/1 10:* (OPT)
    crash-to 10:10/1
    route-to 316:77/1 316:*
    crash-to 316:77/1
    crash-to 21:1/100

    At the end I'll paste the section of the docs on ROUTE.REX

    route-to 1:261/38 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*
    crash-to 1:261/38
    except 2:203/*
    route-to 2:203/0 2:203/*
    crash-to 2:203/0
    crash-to 1:229/300
    crash-to 1:266/512 1:266/* 1:13/*
    crash-to 1:387/22
    crash-to 1:3634/1 1:3634/*
    crash-to 1:298/6
    crash-to 618:100/1
    route-to 316:77/1 316:*
    route-to 618:100/1 618:*

    Look in the docs for IRex to help you with this. So, everytime a *.MSG
    is addressed to 1:261/38, Irex will crash it to that address along with the attached pkt.


    Yes I understand it, it what I am look for.


    work with sbbsecho.exe ver2.33 it puts the netmail pkt in the my link outbound Dir
    with the netmail saying d:\fd\outbound\aaaa.mo0 (pkt) but irex won't sent the
    pkt only the netmail, when it gets there it empty (no pkt) but with
    my version
    of sbbsecho.exe it works fine.


    Yes, because you're creating FLO style mail. IRex maybe set for
    Frontdoor style *.MSG/Attach

    yes irex it is set on frontdoor 2.12.



    before I go any further with this per routing. and seen-by etc as I
    think I fixed it and
    then another problem came up, samething else after that probaly came up
    so I would like
    to ask you, do you use icq are a same type of direct messaging.

    No... sorry..


    Again I would like to thank you for your help, it has been very good

    Welcome..


    Section 10: Routing

    Internet Rex's routing is controlled by the file route.rex located in the
    same directory it was installed to. route.rex is a text file which you can
    edit using your everyday text editing program (edit.com, e.exe, Wordpad:
    all of these will do fine). Routing for Rex is controlled by routing
    commands you add to the file. Here is a sample route.rex file:

    ; This is a quick route.rex file.
    ; It routes all mail to zone 2 through 2:2/20
    ; Any mail to the local region (addresses 2:300/*, 2:302/*, 2:305/*
    ; and 2:306/*) are not routed.
    ; It holds all mail to zone 1 and holds any non-mail files to be sent.

    route-to 2:2/20 2:* 3:* 4:* 5:* 6:*
    except 2:300/* 2:302/*
    except 2:305/* 2:306/*
    hold 1:*
    hold-files

    ; In event A, mail to 1:342/806 is now allowed to be sent

    event A
    unhold 1:342/806

    ; In event B, mail to 1:342/806 is held, but non-mail files can now
    ; be sent.

    event B
    unhold-files

    Notice that the first three lines of the file are comments. Rex will
    ignore any line which doesn't start with a routing command it recognizes.

    Commands you can give in a route.rex file are:

    event <event tag>
    The event command declares a routing block for an event. Rex's usual
    behaviour when it isn't running an event is to read the route.rex file
    from top to bottom until it either reaches the end of the file or an event
    command. So, in the example above, if Rex isn't running an event, mail
    to nodes in zone 1 will be held (because of the hold 1:* command).
    However, if Rex is running an event and it finds an event command with a
    tag which matches the current event's tag, it reads the commands between
    that event command and the next one in the file. So if Rex were running
    event A, mail to zone one would still be held, but mail to 1:342/806
    wouldn't be.

    hold <wildcard> ...
    except <wildcard> ...
    The hold command tells Rex not to send mail for addresses which match the
    wildcards given. Addresses can be excluded from the list using the except

    ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
    (c) Copyright 1997-2002 Khan Software and Charles Cruden
    65
    Internet Rex v2.29 technical manual
    ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

    command.

    hold-files
    hold-mail
    hold-mail signals to Rex that files which match *.PKT, *.SU#, *.MO#, etc.
    should not be sent. Similarly, hold-files says that any file which doesn't
    match *.PKT, *.SU#, etc. should not be sent.
    These commands are useful for scheduling when particular files should be
    sent. For example, if Rex is using one of your BBS lines to connect to the
    net, you probably want it to hold-files until later in the evening when you
    will have fewer callers.

    route-to <destination> <wildcard> ...
    except <wildcard> ...
    This command routes mail for any node matching the wildcards to the
    destination address. The except command after it prevents certain
    addresses from being routed. For instance, in the example route file,
    mail to 2:400/101 would be sent to 2:2/20, because 2:400/101 matches 2:*.
    Mail for 2:300/101 would not be sent to 2:2/20, even though it matches
    2:*. It also matches 2:300/*, and the except command takes precedence.

    unhold <wildcard> ...
    except <wildcard> ...
    The unhold command reverses the effects of the hold command. Mail which
    was on hold is now back to normal.

    unhold-files
    unhold-mail
    These two commands reverse the effects of the hold-mail and hold-files
    commands.

    Limits:
    No line in the route.rex file can be over 512 characters in length.
    No routing command can include more than 1024 addresses or wildcards: 512
    inclusion addresses and 512 exclusion addresses.



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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
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    You're not...

    I am now <G> I think I know what happened. Unarched the daily
    archive, and when I went to copy the contents over, I picked the wrong directory.

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    You are now.. :)


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
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    Re: Re: Seen-by/Paths
    By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Sun Mar 13 2016 18:06:00

    That's another issue I never thought of. Is he using Irex as a FTP server for pkts or binkd server? He sould be using binkd both in and out.


    I used Irex both ways. FTP receive from Janis for files mostly, due to some difficulty at the time, and Binkd for sending packets.

    You do not even have to turn on the FTP server to do so.


    As I told him Irex is good, not really supported anymore, but running binkd is so much easier. I could probably have him running in 20 minutes if he wants to go that way.


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
    Joe Delahaye wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: Seen-by/Paths
    By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Sun Mar 13 2016 22:35:00

    I used Irex both ways. FTP receive from Janis for files mostly, due
    to some difficulty at the time, and Binkd for sending packets.

    You do not even have to turn on the FTP server to do so.


    As I told him Irex is good, not really supported anymore, but running binkd is so much easier. I could probably have him running in 20 minutes if he wants to go that way.


    Binkd missed some vital parts in my opinion. It is good at what it
    does, but unless you can convert Hex into decimal or have a scientific calculator, you cannot know what mail goes to who.

    I'm so used to it now converting to hex is geting easier. Plus I have an iPhone.. I just ask Siri... ;)


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Sneaky on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
    Sneaky wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    @MSGID: <56E756C6.3654.2syncsyso@tequilamockingbirdonline.net>
    @TZ: 02d0
    Re: Re: Seen-by/Paths
    By: Sneaky to Bill McGarrity on Tue Mar 15 2016 08:17:00

    Files Path & programs

    log filename : d:\bbs\maint\logs\irex.log
    temp.file directory : d:\bbs\temp\
    queue directory : d:\bbs\irex\queue\
    holding directort : d:\bbs\irex\hold\
    semaphore dirctory : d:\bbs\irex\semp\
    inbound history file : empty
    outbound history file : empty
    history File format : TEXT
    Linesof history to keep : 10000
    receive mail semaphore : empty < === <sbbs\data fo;der>
    transx mail semaphore : Empty
    run between.bat.cmd : No
    alway s run between.bat : empty
    -------------------------------
    frondoor end mailer setup
    mailer type :frontdoor 2.12+
    Netmail directory : D:\bbs\fd\netmail\ <=== change to OUTBOUND
    type of.msgs : FTS-0001
    save inbound mail in :type 2+ packet
    inbound rex uses : unsecure inbound
    nodelist directory : d:\bbs\fd\nodelist\
    Inbound directory : d:\bbs\fd\inbound\
    Secure directory : d:\bbs\fd\secfiles\
    semaphore directory : d:\bbs\fd\sema\
    semaphores : empty

    Under Semaphores:

    +-[¦]¦ Semaphores ¦-------------------------------+-
    ¦ ¦
    ¦ Node number to use 1 ¦
    ¦ Renumber semaphore ¦
    ¦ Scanning semaphore fdrescan.now ¦
    ¦ In session semaphore fdrescan.now ¦
    ¦ Rescan semaphore fdrescan.now ¦
    ¦ Rescan frequency 600 seconds ¦
    ¦ ¦ +-------------------------------------------------+

    filqueue.fd path :d:\bbs\fd\
    ----------------------------------
    time lord node

    is inbound + outbound configure is set to
    toss to a Binkp site with his address




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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Nov 6 20:25:55 2017
    Joe Delahaye wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: Seen-by/Paths
    By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Tue Mar 15 2016 02:06:00

    I'm so used to it now converting to hex is geting easier. Plus I have an iPhone.. I just ask Siri... ;)


    Siri has been wrong before <G>

    Only when you ask her about the local movie times.... she sucks at that.


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