• Re: Responsiblity

    From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to GEORGE POPE on Sat Nov 6 07:05:36 2021
    Cyberpope wrote --

    Oh well, I don't have to play their games by their rules.

    And "the rules" seem to change daily in today's society.

    Mine don't, so there you have it.

    Mine don't either.
    Don't want to get into modern socio-politics and treading lightly: If you were born a boy or girl you are always a boy or girl regardless what you
    think (or feel like) today.
    When your chromosomes change, come back and we'll talk about it.

    How many siblings did you have?

    Altogether three.
    I had a brother (b. 1922) and sister (b.1924) from my father's first marriage. "Big Joe" was killed in the Pacific in 1945. I was born five years and three days after his death in my parents second marriage).
    My mother had Charles in her first marriage in 1938. He's the only one
    still alive.
    Being 12 years old than I we had little in common. He married his high school sweetheart in 1958 and I was an uncle at 10. They are still married
    to each other, have two kids (two years apart, a boy and a girl) and several grand and great grand kids).
    I came along in 1950 and was what I call an "oops" baby. "Oops, honey, remember that night we...." :)

    trimminmg with the giant rusty manual clippers.

    Oh, I hated those things. Grass always clogging up the blades...

    Happy day for me when my dad got an electric mower & weed trimmer

    In the late '90s I worked as as temp in maintenance at a local bank and
    one of my jobs was mowing the grass, trimming the hedges, etc.
    Now I was never that good a trimming and had a power trimmer.
    I was cutting along, stepping back to check how I was doing, etc and when finished I was pretty well pleased with myself. Until I noticed there were
    all waves on the sides and dips in the top of the hedge.
    Like a bad haircut I thought, "well it'll grow back". :)

    But apparently I'm an old fuddy-duddy who doesn't understabnd life as it is now.

    Join the club. I'm a charter member.
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Nov 6 11:25:00 2021
    Joe,

    Don't want to get into modern socio-politics and treading lightly: If you were born a boy or girl you are always a boy or girl regardless
    what you think (or feel like) today.
    When your chromosomes change, come back and we'll talk about it.

    I agree. I think of the memes/jokes on this...I may have noted these before, but they're still cute.

    1) A little boy and a little girl are looking down their diapers. One
    remarks "So, THAT explains the difference in our salaries". Then, the
    boy notes "I have an antenna, and you have a USB port".

    2) A little boy and a little girl are naked in the bathtub. The girl
    reaches for the boy's "member", and he says "You can't have mine!! You
    broke yours off!!".

    3) In this small country town years ago (when you could leave your doors unlocked at night, and didn't have to worry about pedophiles kidnapping
    your children), a little boy and a little girl were great friends. One
    was Protestant and the other was Catholic...and their churches were
    close to their homes, but were across the street from each other. So,
    each Sunday, they walked together to church.

    Well, one Sunday, a tropical thunderstorm broke over the area, with
    all its rain, thunder, and lightning...but it was done by the time the
    church services were over.

    The little boy and little girl were walking back home, but on the way,
    they came to a large area of water (a huge puddle), and they realized
    if they got their nice Sunday clothes dirty or muddy, they'd get the
    spanking of their lives. The little girl was panicked and near tears,
    wondering what they would do. Her "boy friend" thought a minute, and
    said "I know!! Let's strip butt naked. I will carry you over to the
    other side, then I will carry our clothes over. They won't get muddy,
    and no one will know what happened". Relieved, his "girl friend" said
    "yes" to his idea.

    Well, they strip butt naked, and like a gentleman (think Sir Walter
    Raleigh), he carries her across, then carries their clothes, etc.
    across. As they're standing there, looking at their nude bodies,
    one remarks "I didn't know there was such a difference between
    Protestants and Catholics". <G>

    Being 12 years old than I we had little in common. He married his
    high school sweetheart in 1958 and I was an uncle at 10. They are
    still married to each other, have two kids (two years apart, a boy and
    a girl) and several grand and great grand kids).

    Reminds me of the blooper where "an Aggie mother writes a letter to
    her son", with the following items of interest:

    1) You won't know the house when you come home...we've moved.

    2) Your sister had a baby, but I don't know whether it's a boy or girl.
    So, we don't know whether you're an aunt or an uncle.

    3) Your uncle drowned in the vat at the local brewery last week. Several co-workers dove into save him, but he fought them off bravely. As he
    went down for the last time, there was a huge smile on his face. We
    decided to creamate the remains, but that was a huge mistake...it took
    3 days to put out the ensuing fire.

    4) I was going to send you some money, but I had already sealed the
    envelope.

    I came along in 1950 and was what I call an "oops" baby. "Oops,
    honey, remember that night we...." :)

    Sounds like the meme where on Feb. 14, the man is chasing the woman.
    On Nov. 14, a woman "great with child" is chasing the man. <G>

    Oh, I hated those things. Grass always clogging up the blades...

    I have a black preacher and his associates who do my lawn once a month.

    Like a bad haircut I thought, "well it'll grow back". :)

    Just insert the weeds. <G>

    Join the club. I'm a charter member.

    I thought you were president emeritus <g,d,r>

    Daryl

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to JOE MACKEY on Sun Nov 7 08:26:48 2021
    Mine don't either.
    Don't want to get into modern socio-politics and treading lightly: If you were born a boy or girl you are always a boy or girl regardless what you think (or feel like) today.
    When your chromosomes change, come back and we'll talk about it.

    Yup. like the story goes:

    Girl asks her besty, "So you just had a baby?"
    "Yup."
    Is it a boy or girl?
    "Duh! How can I know? It's not old enough to tell me yet!"

    *facepalm*

    I blame the governmemt: they began using "gender" to ask if male or female because certain staff were afraid of the word "sex." Now nobody knows that sex & gender are two very different things.

    Sex, as a noun: male or female, period, no other options.
    Gender: masculine, feminine, or neuter -- refers to outward behaviours, not actuality.

    I've thought about being cheeky & answering "F" on "gender?" questions, until I realized it would just be taken seriously without question.

    Or like the teenage boy who was looking at the question "Sex?" & thought "Well, I'd like to F, but I guess I should be honest & put that I only M"

    How many siblings did you have?

    Altogether three.

    I was eldest of three; now two, as my younger brother(middle child) died in Korea (in 2003, not the war)

    My baby sister is up north working her ass off as a business owner (accounting & bookkeeping office) & enjoying her many grandkids. . . (she was first to make my mom into a great grandma--not overly appreciarted at the time)


    I had a brother (b. 1922) and sister (b.1924) from my father's first marriage. "Big Joe" was killed in the Pacific in 1945. I was born five years and three days after his death in my parents second marriage).
    My mother had Charles in her first marriage in 1938. He's the only one still alive.
    Being 12 years old than I we had little in common. He married his high

    So you're a big o' 71 now, eh? Quite young, still. . .

    Most of my real-life friends are closer to 80 or 90. . .

    But I pay attention tot he world so I understand you young'uns, too (yes, I know the irony of me being 54 & sdating such things, but I'm an ancient soul)

    school sweetheart in 1958 and I was an uncle at 10. They are still married to each other, have two kids (two years apart, a boy and a girl) and several grand and great grand kids).

    Back when you could say "one of each" & not cause confusion.

    So you're a multiplicate uncle, eh? Any family yourself? (wife, kids, grand'uns, etc?)

    I came along in 1950 and was what I call an "oops" baby. "Oops, honey, remember that night we...." :)

    Did your parents consider you a "mistake" or a "surprise"?

    In the late '90s I worked as as temp in maintenance at a local bank and one of my jobs was mowing the grass, trimming the hedges, etc.

    Nearly 50 & doing manual labour/yardwork, eh? Fun times we live in, eh? :P

    Now I was never that good a trimming and had a power trimmer.
    I was cutting along, stepping back to check how I was doing, etc and when finished I was pretty well pleased with myself. Until I noticed there were all waves on the sides and dips in the top of the hedge.
    Like a bad haircut I thought, "well it'll grow back". :)

    Like the ad of a groundsworker at a stadium whose mind was drifting as he imagined himself on a Harley. . . "Think they'll notice?" (swerve-y lines. . oh, definitely!)

    Lke they say: don't like the job the barber did on your hair? Wait a week.

    But apparently I'm an old fuddy-duddy who doesn't understabnd life as it is now.

    Join the club. I'm a charter member.

    But we understand plenty, because we know the truth & we watched it go wrong. . . powerless against a juggernaut of ignorance sweeping our respective national populations. . .

    I've coined the phrase, "insistently ignorant" for how some do their jobs.

    It's usually misheard & written as "consistently ignorant" which usually achieves mty dewsired result anyway." (in the last instance, I wanted a particular home care worker to no longer be sent to me.)

    Now my wife & I decided to fire the lot of them & figure it all out ourselves. Keeps nosy strangers out of our home, too.

    My wifge fgiguyred out how to proerly install my pressure wraps on my ever- swelling left leg & foot, so that wass the last thing I had care for (Once married my wife fired the cleaning folk, saying she's trust her own job better anyway)

    Much better -- now they have to do specvial macinations to make excuses to snoop, & we're on to them & are watchingt hem at all times (the house is never left empty.)

    I'm kind of a rebel & on several watch lists, it seems. . . (lists ala Joe McCarthy in his latter days in the Senate.)

    I'm actuallky not a danger or problemn at all; I'm just more aware than most. . . & I dislike & publically debunk lies. I think "iconoclast" is the term; at one point in human history, iconoclasts were well-respected & appreciated, now they're enemies of the State. :P

    You couldn't even LOOK ast the seats of govermewnt uynless you were in intellectual back in the latter 18th c, it's quite the oppositre n ow -- if you're revealed as an intellectual, you'll be facing away from the seats of government in a hurry!

    Ignorami are intimidated by intelligence. Not realizing that they're controlled/manipulated by such, but just by the dishonest ones.

    Oh, if only we could have a bunch of Lincolns hit the ballots these days. . .

    At leat you have a rich hisrtory of noble intyelligent mewn committed to the people they served. Our early history is filled with sots, who essentially said "*hic* f--- it, let's do it!"

    I'm especially impressed by how Mr. G. Washington was offered to be made king(absolute ruler) of his new country, & he lit into the people, reminding them of why & his compatriots fought long & hard against the British.

    He was an early(not first) president & well-earened the title "leader"

    To me the only leaders are the original sense of it: people who led the way in the fight against trouble, who were first in literally putting themselves between danger & the non-combatant people behind him.

    I say him only to be historically accurate -- if & when there's a woman lieutant in the army who leads the chare into dangerous territory & succeeds at it, I'm happy to call her a true leader, too.

    To me, this isn't politicsa, it's sociology. . . ;)

    Your friend,

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to George Pope on Sun Nov 7 14:33:00 2021
    George,

    Girl asks her besty, "So you just had a baby?"
    "Yup."
    Is it a boy or girl?
    "Duh! How can I know? It's not old enough to tell me yet!"

    *facepalm*

    Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it helps mask the noise. :P

    Sex, as a noun: male or female, period, no other options.
    Gender: masculine, feminine, or neuter -- refers to outward behaviours, not actuality.

    Sex is before seven....tennis before eleven -- (makes a nice tagline) <G>.

    I've thought about being cheeky & answering "F" on "gender?" questions, until I realized it would just be taken seriously without question.

    Before my wife died, and we went to get our flu shots, we had to fill out paperwork at the local Walgreens. When it got to the question about being pregnant, I said to my wife "I wonder if I should mark that??". She growled "Don't even think about it". <G>

    Or like the teenage boy who was looking at the question "Sex?" &
    thought "Well, I'd like to F, but I guess I should be honest & put that
    I only M"

    If you can get the worm and fish on and off the hook in record time, that makes you a master baiter. <G>

    My baby sister is up north working her ass off as a business owner (accounting & bookkeeping office) & enjoying her many grandkids. . .
    (she was first to make my mom into a great grandma--not overly appreciarted at the time)


    I grew up with one brother. We were raised in the same household, but
    we are as different as night and day...hobbies and otherwise.

    So you're a big o' 71 now, eh? Quite young, still. . .

    I'm still younger than him (classed as a puppy, but I'm weaned and
    potty trained <G>).

    Most of my real-life friends are closer to 80 or 90. . .

    A lot of my ham radio friends are in that group.

    But we understand plenty, because we know the truth & we watched it go wrong. . . powerless against a juggernaut of ignorance sweeping our respective national populations. . .

    Darn right.

    Oh, if only we could have a bunch of Lincolns hit the ballots these
    days. . .

    Amen!!

    Daryl

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to GEORGE POPE on Tue Nov 9 06:20:18 2021
    Cyberpope wrote --

    I blame the governmemt: they began using "gender" to ask if male or female because certain staff were afraid of the word "sex."

    I can understand that.

    Or like the teenage boy who was looking at the question "Sex?" & thought "Well, I'd like to F, but I guess I should be honest & put that I only M"

    ROFLOL

    So you're a big o' 71 now, eh? Quite young, still. . .

    Yep.
    When I was a kid I was sometimes referred to as "Little Joe" (long before Bonanza was on TV) when discussing my brother or I for whatever reason.
    When I think of him he is still "Big Joe" to me.

    Most of my real-life friends are closer to 80 or 90. . .

    I've always enjoyed talking to older people, regardless of my age. (At
    one time a "older" person could have been 20, 30, 40, etc years old. As I
    get older there are fewer older people to talk to).
    I sometimes think I was born out of time. I have always been more interested in the time from around 1900 than the years I was living in.
    Still am. I would much rather listen to music from the 20s and 30s than anything "modern" as an example. That goes for films, books, radio, etc.
    I could easily live a life as it was in say the 1930s and '40s.

    Back when you could say "one of each" & not cause confusion.

    Yep.
    Like your earlier comment to let the kid decide what they are.

    So you're a multiplicate uncle, eh? Any family yourself? (wife, kids, grand'uns, etc?)

    Not that I know of. wink wink
    I came close to getting married a couple of times but came to my senses.
    :)

    Did your parents consider you a "mistake" or a "surprise"?

    Maybe a bit of both. :)

    Nearly 50 & doing manual labour/yardwork, eh? Fun times we live in, eh? :P

    My work life in the past was mostly what would be termed manual labour
    and outside.
    I have always been active. I walk/bike wherever I need to go.
    I am also very independent. I never ask anyone to take me somewhere or
    pick me up. I come/go as best as I can.
    I don't like be dependent on others. Never have.

    But we understand plenty, because we know the truth & we watched it go wrong. . . powerless against a juggernaut of ignorance sweeping our respective national populations. . .

    ==sigh== Yep.

    (Once married my wife fired the cleaning folk, saying she's trust her own job better anyway)

    I'm the same way as she is.

    I'm actuallky not a danger or problemn at all; I'm just more aware than most. .

    That sir is what makes you dangerous...
    One must remember these are the days of bread and circuses. Being well
    fed and entertained to take you mind off things. Pay no attention to that
    man (or group) behind the curtain.

    Our early history is filled with sots, who essentially said "*hic* f--- it, let's do it!"

    And now there are so many groups giving money to the pols to do the will
    of the giver and not the people.
    But then we are drifting into modern politics...

    I'm especially impressed by how Mr. G. Washington was offered to be made king(absolute ruler) of his new country, & he lit into the people, reminding them of why & his compatriots fought long & hard against the British.

    At the time the idea of an elected president was a radical and unproven
    idea.
    From the earliest days there were hierarchical kings, who held all the
    power and gave out some to various members of the nobility.
    "Elect our leaders? That's a crazy idea".
    Joe
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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to Daryl Stout on Tue Nov 9 09:35:09 2021
    Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it helps mask the noise. :P

    Tagline fodder:
    Silence is golden; duct tape is silver

    Sex is before seven....tennis before eleven -- (makes a nice tagline) <G>.

    The Bond actors were at a country club, signing up for the listed times for lessons with the pro.

    Roger Moore gladly takes the early 8am time slot; Pierce Brosnan takes noon; Sean Connery says, "I should be free sometime after 9:30, but I need to leave in time to be at my next appointment at 11, so ten-ish anyone?"

    Before my wife died, and we went to get our flu shots, we had to fill out paperwork at the local Walgreens. When it got to the question about being pregnant, I said to my wife "I wonder if I should mark that??". She growled "Don't even think about it". <G>

    Aww, but why? People poike my belly and ask if I'm pregnant; I say, "Yeah, with a baby elephant, weant to see the trunk?"

    One wag had his doctor pike his belly and snidely ask, "Beer?"

    "I don't know," said our no-guff-taking her, "There's a tap underneath, why don't you try a glassful?'

    If you can get the worm and fish on and off the hook in record time, that makes you a master baiter. <G>

    If you join a particular high school club & get top marks in tournamemts, uyou might be a master debater. . .


    You're a fan of Abie, too?

    Q: Why couldn't Abraham Lincoln be arrested?
    A: He's in a cent

    I just found out that Lincoln made about $300 million in movie theatres. Which is weird. Lincoln hitorically hasnt done too well in theatres.

    Q: What did the Lincoln Memorial say when it got pepper in its nose?
    A: STACHOO!

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Nov 9 11:23:00 2021
    Joe,

    Still am. I would much rather listen to music from the 20s and 30s than anything "modern" as an example. That goes for films, books,
    radio, etc.

    Same here...everything was far more decent back then. Nowadays, it's as
    if profanity proliferates.

    I came close to getting married a couple of times but came to my
    senses. :)

    Sounds like ventriloquist Jeff Dunham found out in talking to Walter.
    Walter said he had been married 47 years. Then, Jeff asked was the
    happiest day of his life, and Walter replied "48 years ago". <G>

    I don't like be dependent on others. Never have.

    Same here...but sometimes, you have to get assistance.

    One must remember these are the days of bread and circuses. Being
    well fed and entertained to take you mind off things. Pay no attention
    to that man (or group) behind the curtain.

    Perfect description of the world today.

    And now there are so many groups giving money to the pols to do the
    will of the giver and not the people.

    They forget they are to work for us...we're not their peons.

    Before the election, they give us the thumbs up...afterwards, they give
    us the bird. :P

    Daryl

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Nov 9 10:27:10 2021
    I blame the governmemt: they began using "gender" to ask if male or female because certain staff were afraid of the word "sex."

    I can understand that.

    I don't. It's just a word that, in this context is in no way evocative of loud slippery fun. . .

    &, even if it was, so what? Fun is fun. . .

    When I was a kid I was sometimes referred to as "Little Joe" (long before Bonanza was on TV) when discussing my brother or I for whatever reason.

    I was "Georgie" to my mom, because my dad was "George."

    One day one of my fiends called to ask to speak to "George."; my mom asked, "Big George or little George?"

    My friend considered me & said, "Big George" & got the wrong George on the phone.

    Most of my real-life friends are closer to 80 or 90. . .

    I've always enjoyed talking to older people, regardless of my age. (At one time a "older" person could have been 20, 30, 40, etc years old. As I get older there are fewer older people to talk to).

    I'm getting that, too, sadly. . . :(

    I was reading before I started school; by age 8 or 9 I was reading adult (not "adult") novels, most written by people 2-40 years older than me, so I lived through their perceptions of their generations youth & world, & that imprinted on me like I'd been there, too. . .

    Also my peers were dumb as dirt, & I could actually learn from my elders! (if over 40, 50+)

    From age 15 or so, my best friends were seniors. . .

    So now I'm experiencing the obvious problem with that -- losing friends too often & permanently. . . :(

    I still read lots, but don't live in the worlds of the authors(especially the scifi/Fantasy ones) as much now, except I do feel an affinity for Florida, as so many of my fave series were set there, by authors who lived there & obviously loved it. (one's ded, one moved to Canada, & the other is still there, loving life on his little family ranchlike(couple pet horses for the kids) home & yard, except for the sand spurs on his daily walks. . .(he's darn near 90)

    I'm amazed at the self sufficiency of the generation that saw any part of the Depression!

    I knew one old fellow, in a manual wheelchair who, every day, rain or shine, wheeled himself around our 4-square block (2 up, 2 over, 2 down & back home); he was in his 90s. I knew another here, who walked a block or two every day, at 102! (his 4 years younger wife went with him, until she died.)

    Every time I was at the bus stop, he stoped ove to chat (in broken English; he was Chinese) & always asked me to guess his age, then told me 102 & showed me how his hair was still naturally black! Then told me how he has 37 kids (including grands & greats, apparently)

    A real delight!





    I sometimes think I was born out of time. I have always been more interested in the time from around 1900 than the years I was living in.
    Still am. I would much rather listen to music from the 20s and 30s than anything "modern" as an example. That goes for films, books, radio, etc.
    I could easily live a life as it was in say the 1930s and '40s.

    Back when you could say "one of each" & not cause confusion.

    Yep.
    Like your earlier comment to let the kid decide what they are.

    So you're a multiplicate uncle, eh? Any family yourself? (wife, kids, grand'uns, etc?)

    Not that I know of. wink wink
    I came close to getting married a couple of times but came to my senses. :)

    Did your parents consider you a "mistake" or a "surprise"?

    Maybe a bit of both. :)

    Nearly 50 & doing manual labour/yardwork, eh? Fun times we live in, eh? :P

    My work life in the past was mostly what would be termed manual labour
    and outside.
    I have always been active. I walk/bike wherever I need to go.
    I am also very independent. I never ask anyone to take me somewhere or pick me up. I come/go as best as I can.
    I don't like be dependent on others. Never have.

    But we understand plenty, because we know the truth & we watched it go wrong. . . powerless against a juggernaut of ignorance sweeping our respective national populations. . .

    ==sigh== Yep.

    (Once married my wife fired the cleaning folk, saying she's trust her own job better anyway)

    I'm the same way as she is.

    I'm actuallky not a danger or problemn at all; I'm just more aware than most. .

    That sir is what makes you dangerous...
    One must remember these are the days of bread and circuses. Being well fed and entertained to take you mind off things. Pay no attention to that man (or group) behind the curtain.

    Our early history is filled with sots, who essentially said "*hic* f--- it, let's do it!"

    And now there are so many groups giving money to the pols to do the will of the giver and not the people.
    But then we are drifting into modern politics...

    I'm especially impressed by how Mr. G. Washington was offered to be made king(absolute ruler) of his new country, & he lit into the people, reminding them of why & his compatriots fought long & hard against the British.

    At the time the idea of an elected president was a radical and unproven idea.
    From the earliest days there were hierarchical kings, who held all the power and gave out some to various members of the nobility.
    "Elect our leaders? That's a crazy idea".
    Joe
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    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to George Pope on Wed Nov 10 14:38:00 2021
    George,

    Tagline fodder:
    Silence is golden; duct tape is silver

    So is a dirty tagline a tagline mudder?? :P

    Sex is before seven....tennis before eleven -- (makes a nice tagline) <G>.

    Roger Moore gladly takes the early 8am time slot; Pierce Brosnan takes noon; Sean Connery says, "I should be free sometime after 9:30, but I
    need to leave in time to be at my next appointment at 11, so ten-ish anyone?"

    Game, set, match.

    Aww, but why? People poike my belly and ask if I'm pregnant; I say,
    "Yeah, with a baby elephant, weant to see the trunk?"

    Wait until you hear it speak. <EG>

    One wag had his doctor pike his belly and snidely ask, "Beer?"

    "I don't know," said our no-guff-taking her, "There's a tap underneath, why don't you try a glassful?'

    Oh, brother. :P

    If you can get the worm and fish on and off the hook in record time, that makes you a master baiter. <G>

    If you join a particular high school club & get top marks in
    tournamemts, you might be a master debater. . .

    Never mind the female horse named Fillie Buster. <G>

    You're a fan of Abie, too?

    Q: Why couldn't Abraham Lincoln be arrested?
    A: He's in a cent

    He also was fond of snakes (a copperhead), and drove a Lincoln.

    I just found out that Lincoln made about $300 million in movie
    theatres. Which is weird. Lincoln hitorically hasnt done too well in theatres.

    That idea was shot all to pieces.

    Q: What did the Lincoln Memorial say when it got pepper in its nose?
    A: STACHOO!

    You have concrete evidence on that one.

    Daryl

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to DARYL STOUT on Sat Nov 13 06:41:38 2021
    Daryl wrote --

    I don't like be dependent on others. Never have.

    Same here...but sometimes, you have to get assistance.

    Only as a last resort.
    Joe
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to GEORGE POPE on Sat Nov 13 07:02:44 2021
    Cyberpope wrote --

    Also my peers were dumb as dirt, & I could actually learn from my elders! (if over 40, 50+)

    Its like the old saying that for many people "history starts on the day
    they were born".
    Anything much before then they aren't interested in.
    I've always been interested in history. Not just reading about it but talking to people who were around at the time, as much as possible.
    When my mother was in a home the last years of her life (she loved it
    there) I enjoyed talking to the other residents what it was like in "the olden days".
    One had been a housekeeper for a rich, well known local family in from around 1910 to 1930 and what life was like there. What she did, how she did it, etc.

    From age 15 or so, my best friends were seniors. . .

    Most of the people I knew were much older than I was.
    I learned a lot from their stories. Not history of kings and kingdoms
    but of everyday life of the common person.

    I'm amazed at the self sufficiency of the generation that saw any part of the Depression!

    The average person in their teens or 20s couldn't handle that era.
    Neither side of my family had any money and the Depression was more of a speed bump on the road of life rather than a crater. :)
    Bette Midler had a great song, written by John Prine, Hello in There
    about old people.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq51a-wyPnw&ab_channel=Musicete
    Joe
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to DARYL STOUT on Sat Nov 13 07:13:58 2021
    Daryl wrote --

    I just found out that Lincoln made about $300 million in movie theatres. Which is weird. Lincoln hitorically hasnt done too well
    GP> in theatres.

    That idea was shot all to pieces.

    Or as the reporter asked Mary Todd, "Other than that how did you enjoy
    the play Mrs Lincoln?"
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Nov 13 09:31:00 2021
    Joe,

    I just found out that Lincoln made about $300 million in movie theatres. Which is weird. Lincoln hitorically hasnt done too well

    GP> in theatres.

    That idea was shot all to pieces.

    Or as the reporter asked Mary Todd, "Other than that how did you
    enjoy the play Mrs Lincoln?"

    You wonder what kind of a response he was gunning for. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Nov 15 23:31:42 2021
    Its like the old saying that for many people "history starts on the day they were born".
    Anything much before then they aren't interested in.
    I've always been interested in history. Not just reading about it but talking to people who were around at the time, as much as possible.
    When my mother was in a home the last years of her life (she loved it there) I enjoyed talking to the other residents what it was like in "the olden days".
    One had been a housekeeper for a rich, well known local family in from around 1910 to 1930 and what life was like there. What she did, how she did it, etc.

    I hated history as a student, because I was ripped off & never given a teacher who loved it. I've more recently picked up a love for it & of it. . .

    I'm not even narrowing my focus down -- just whatever humans were doing at any place or time in the big Ago.

    I began with some humorous books on history -- telling the facts, but with an eye towards seeing the funny &/or deliberately misinterpreting so as to generate humour. Rthen once I found a few events & eras that lined up among different authors' tellings, I started asking questions & using Google & my library to find out more. . .

    I'm not a Historian, per se -- more an Anthroplogist (read a book by the world's top Space Archaeologist--got me hooked -- I can join her teams & help look for evidences from Google satellite imges)

    I like sociology, psychology, & anthropoplogy, as I want to understand these weird beasts called humans from every angle!

    As an aside, I'm picking up on geography knowledge, too -- also denied to me by ineffective+disinterested teachers as these events & people all lived somewhere & geography often shapes history, plus I play a lot of trivia games & I'll pick Geography over History, usually. (I plaY more to learn than to win)



    From age 15 or so, my best friends were seniors. . .

    Most of the people I knew were much older than I was.
    I learned a lot from their stories. Not history of kings and kingdoms
    but of everyday life of the common person.

    I'm amazed at the self sufficiency of the generation that saw any part of the Depression!

    The average person in their teens or 20s couldn't handle that era.
    Neither side of my family had any money and the Depression was more of a speed bump on the road of life rather than a crater. :)
    Bette Midler had a great song, written by John Prine, Hello in There about old people.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq51a-wyPnw&ab_channel=Musicete
    Joe
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    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
    Cyberpope, Bishop of ROM
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