• Got a Problem

    From Timothy Cornett@1:135/364 to All on Thu Feb 21 22:31:14 2013
    Hi everyone, maybe someone can help me, while trying to convert to makenl_ng I've discovered that I can't get makenl_ng to create my segment of the nodelist, it's runs test mode perfectly but seems stuck in test mode. Even if I'm using the /p option it'll tell me it's processing, but then returns a rc=3 (the same code as test mode) and nothing is created.

    I've tried the 16 bit DOS version, 32 bit DOS version and the windows version. All give me the same result, I sent Janis a copy of my .ctl file, she made some minor changes, I tried that again to no avail. I'm running windows XP 32 bit and any help getting it working would be greatly appreciated.

    Tim

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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Timothy Cornett on Thu Feb 21 22:04:58 2013
    * An ongoing debate between Timothy Cornett and All rages on ...

    Hi everyone, maybe someone can help me, while trying to convert to makenl_ng I've discovered that I can't get makenl_ng to create my

    I use the DOS 32-bit version ... if your Ctl file is set up properly just type makenl with no parameters and it should build automatically, mine does. :)

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    Be well :^)

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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Timothy Cornett on Thu Feb 21 22:08:24 2013
    My control file (makenl.ctl):

    === Cut ===
    ; $Id: net-s.ctl,v 1.1.1.1 2009/01/08 20:07:46 mbroek Exp $
    ;
    ; This is a sample control for a the coordinator of a Hub or small Net.
    ; Edit fields within angle brackets as necessary (removing the brackets). Logfile makenl.log

    ;ALLOwunpub 1
    ;FORcesubmit 1
    ;ALPHAphone 1

    master c:\db\makenl\ng

    make network 393 ; No "master data file" input data is below.

    BaudRate 300,1200,2400,4800,9600,14400,16800,19200,28800,33600

    outfile NET_393 ; output file

    submit 1:19/0 ; where you send updates, CRASH and/or HOLD optional netaddress 1:393/0 ; your network address here

    messages c:\db\messages ; path name to mail server's FidoNet mail area

    ; No other options are needed. Master directory and output directory will
    ; default to the current directory.

    COPywrite cpyright.txt
    PROlog prolog.txt
    EPIlog epilog.txt

    data
    ; Host,393,Cajun_Star,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,MO,XX,INA:cmech
    .dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN
    ; ;,21,Bens_Echolist_TestBot,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,MO,XX,IN
    A:cmech.dynip.com,IBN,IMI ,31,Southeast_Texas_BBS,Vidor_TX,Gary_Perkins,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,XX,INA:setxbbs
    .synchro.net,IBN

    ,68,The_Positronium_Repository,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,MO,X
    X,INA:cmech.dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN ,69,The_Positronium_BBS,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey,1-337-984-4794,33600,CM,XX,HST
    ,VFC,V32b,V34,V42b
    ;

    ; Your source data goes here. The advantage of this over "HUB.CTL" is that
    ; MAKENL will not reformat or change your source data, even if you have errors.

    === Cut ===

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    Be well :^)

    : Ben aka cMech Web: http://cmech.dynip.com:8080
    : Home page: http://users.lusfiber.net/~fido4cmech
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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Timothy Cornett on Fri Feb 22 11:58:14 2013
    Hello Timothy!

    21 Feb 13 22:31, you wrote to All:

    Hi everyone, maybe someone can help me, while trying to convert to makenl_ng I've discovered that I can't get makenl_ng to create my segment of the nodelist, it's runs test mode perfectly but seems stuck in test mode. Even if I'm using the /p option it'll tell me it's processing, but then returns a rc=3 (the same code as test mode) and nothing is created.

    I think all options should now be written with a dash in stead of a slah.
    So it will be -p in stead of /p. I have no MS system at hand to check what
    error message is generated if the / is used.

    Kees

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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Ben Ritchey on Fri Feb 22 10:24:32 2013
    Ben Ritchey wrote to Timothy Cornett:

    My control file (makenl.ctl):

    === Cut ===
    ; $Id: net-s.ctl,v 1.1.1.1 2009/01/08 20:07:46 mbroek Exp $
    ;
    ; This is a sample control for a the coordinator of a Hub or small
    Net. ; Edit fields within angle brackets as necessary (removing the brackets). Logfile makenl.log

    ;ALLOwunpub 1
    ;FORcesubmit 1
    ;ALPHAphone 1

    master c:\db\makenl\ng

    make network 393 ; No "master data file" input data is below.

    BaudRate 300,1200,2400,4800,9600,14400,16800,19200,28800,33600

    outfile NET_393 ; output file

    submit 1:19/0 ; where you send updates, CRASH and/or HOLD
    optional netaddress 1:393/0 ; your network address here

    messages c:\db\messages ; path name to mail server's FidoNet
    mail area

    ; No other options are needed. Master directory and output directory
    will ; default to the current directory.

    COPywrite cpyright.txt
    PROlog prolog.txt
    EPIlog epilog.txt

    data
    ;
    Host,393,Cajun_Star,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,MO,XX ,INA:c mech .dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN ;

    ^ ^
    ? ?

    This works?


    R\%/itt


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    * Origin: Texas Lone-Star - Texan, American, USAian (1:387/22)
  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Kees van Eeten on Fri Feb 22 10:26:14 2013
    Kees van Eeten wrote to Timothy Cornett:

    Hi everyone, maybe someone can help me, while trying to convert to
    makenl_ng I've discovered that I can't get makenl_ng to create my
    segment of the nodelist, it's runs test mode perfectly but seems
    stuck in test mode. Even if I'm using the /p option it'll tell me
    it's processing, but then returns a rc=3 (the same code as test
    mode) and nothing is created.

    I think all options should now be written with a dash in stead of a slah.

    You are correct.

    REM Call MakeNL and create test log file
    MAKENL.EXE -t N387.CTL >> \MNL\TEST387.LOG

    -t used to be /t

    So it will be -p in stead of /p. I have no MS system at hand to
    check what error message is generated if the / is used.

    You don't need -p to process the ctl file...just use it like above, but
    don't use the -t and rename the log file to your net log...


    R\%/itt


    --- GoldED+/W32 1.1.5-31012
    * Origin: Texas Lone-Star - Texan, American, USAian (1:387/22)
  • From Bill Burton@1:2215/15 to Timothy Cornett on Fri Feb 22 11:45:24 2013
    Timothy Cornett wrote in a message to All:

    Hi everyone, maybe someone can help me, while trying to convert to makenl_ng I've discovered that I can't get makenl_ng to create my
    segment of the nodelist, it's runs test mode perfectly but seems
    stuck in test mode. Even if I'm using the /p option it'll tell me
    it's processing, but then returns a rc=3 (the same code as test
    mode) and nothing is created.

    I've tried the 16 bit DOS version, 32 bit DOS version and the
    windows version. All give me the same result, I sent Janis a copy
    of my .ctl file, she made some minor changes, I tried that again to
    no avail. I'm running windows XP 32 bit and any help getting it
    working would be greatly appreciated.

    Tim, I sent you an email with my telephone number, give me a call and I will try to help you get it working.

    Later,
    Bill

    Internet: wabusa.com Telnet: bbs.wabusa.com Fidonet POTS: 330-548-2566

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Fri Feb 22 17:51:30 2013
    I think all options should now be written with a dash in stead of a slah. So it will be -p in stead of /p. I have no MS system at hand to check
    what
    error message is generated if the / is used.

    In MSDOS versions prior to 5.0 you could issue the command "switchchar -" to
    make the OS treat them both similar.

    I guess those of us remembering that are close to being extinct now... :)

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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Roy Witt on Fri Feb 22 12:08:53 2013
    * An ongoing debate between Roy Witt and Ben Ritchey rages on ...

    Host,393,Cajun_Star,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,M
    O,XX ,INA:c mech .dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN ;
    ^ ^
    ? ?
    This works?

    Text import & re-wrap inserted spaces for some strange reason lol

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    Be well :^)

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    : Home page: http://users.lusfiber.net/~fido4cmech
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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Björn Felten on Fri Feb 22 20:07:04 2013
    Hello Bj”rn!

    22 Feb 13 17:51, you wrote to me:


    I think all options should now be written with a dash in stead of a
    slah. So it will be -p in stead of /p. I have no MS system at hand to
    check what error message is generated if the / is used.

    In MSDOS versions prior to 5.0 you could issue the command "switchchar -" to make the OS treat them both similar.

    I guess those of us remembering that are close to being extinct now... :)

    It does ring a bell somewhere, but until recently both uses were implemented
    in makenl_ng. It probably was quite a job, to distinguish between an option
    and a filepath on *nix systems, where now the mainpart of the development
    is done. You may be disappointed, but where there is no money involved, he
    who does the work, decides.

    Kees

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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Ben Ritchey on Fri Feb 22 14:12:48 2013
    Ben Ritchey wrote to Roy Witt:

    * An ongoing debate between Roy Witt and Ben Ritchey rages on ...

    Host,393,Cajun_Star,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,M
    O,XX ,INA:c mech .dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN ;
    ^ ^
    ? ?
    This works?

    Text import & re-wrap inserted spaces for some strange reason lol

    I suspected as much. When I import such a list or a weblink, I make sure
    that it can be copied and used as is...I know that chasing wrapped text
    can leave some people confused when they don't work.


    R\%/itt


    --- GoldED+/W32 1.1.5-31012
    * Origin: Texas Lone-Star - Texan, American, USAian (1:387/22)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.42 to Timothy Cornett on Fri Feb 22 15:09:39 2013
    Hi everyone, maybe someone can help me, while trying to convert to makenl_ng I've discovered that I can't get makenl_ng to create my
    segment of the nodelist, it's runs test mode perfectly but seems
    stuck in test mode. Even if I'm using the /p option it'll tell me
    it's processing, but then returns a rc=3 (the same code as test
    mode) and nothing is created.

    forget using '/' as a parameter indicator... use '-' instead... in fact, do yourself a favor and use '-test' or '-process' to ensure that it does what you really want ;)

    )\/(ark

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    * Origin: (1:3634/12.42)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.42 to Kees van Eeten on Fri Feb 22 15:11:52 2013
    Hi everyone, maybe someone can help me, while trying to convert to makenl_ng I've discovered that I can't get makenl_ng to create my
    segment of the nodelist, it's runs test mode perfectly but seems
    stuck in test mode. Even if I'm using the /p option it'll tell me
    it's processing, but then returns a rc=3 (the same code as test
    mode) and nothing is created.

    I think all options should now be written with a dash in stead of
    a slah. So it will be -p in stead of /p. I have no MS system at
    hand to check what error message is generated if the / is used.

    yes, the original program used to allow for either switch character... this new
    generation version does not... it only allows for the dash '-' switch character...

    )\/(ark

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    * Origin: (1:3634/12.42)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.42 to Roy Witt on Fri Feb 22 15:15:31 2013
    data
    ;
    Host,393,Cajun_Star,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,MO,XX ,INA:c mech .dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN ;

    ^ ^
    ? ?

    This works?

    there are no spaces in the original... your reader did something to it to place
    them there...

    )\/(ark

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    * Origin: (1:3634/12.42)
  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Kees van Eeten on Fri Feb 22 16:21:01 2013
    Hello Kees!

    Friday February 22 2013 11:58, Kees van Eeten wrote to Timothy Cornett:

    I think all options should now be written with a dash in stead of a slah. So it will be -p in stead of /p. I have no MS system at hand to check what error message is generated if the / is used.

    You are correct; switches must be specified with the - character. This simplifies the command line processing significantly on systems that use the / character as a path separator. For the sake of consistency, the change was applied to all versions.

    Andrew

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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to mark lewis on Fri Feb 22 15:12:56 2013
    mark lewis wrote to Roy Witt:

    data
    ;
    Host,393,Cajun_Star,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,MO,X
    X ,INA:c mech .dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN ;

    ^ ^
    ? ?

    This works?

    there are no spaces in the original... your reader did something to
    it to place them there...

    Host,393,Cajun_Star,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey
    cmech .dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN

    Go back and re-read the original.


    R\%/itt


    --- GoldED+/W32 1.1.5-31012
    * Origin: Texas Lone-Star - Texan, American, USAian (1:387/22)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.42 to Roy Witt on Fri Feb 22 19:25:39 2013
    data
    ;
    Host,393,Cajun_Star,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,MO,X
    X ,INA:c mech .dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN ;

    ^ ^
    ? ?

    This works?

    there are no spaces in the original... your reader did something to
    it to place them there...

    Host,393,Cajun_Star,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey
    cmech .dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN

    Go back and re-read the original.

    i did specifically before i replied to you... your reader is placing spaces where there are none in the original... they are not even there in the PKT that
    brought the post from ben to this system...

    )\/(ark

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    * Origin: (1:3634/12.42)
  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to mark lewis on Sat Feb 23 09:59:23 2013
    mark lewis wrote to Roy Witt:

    data
    ;
    Host,393,Cajun_Star,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,MO,
    X X ,INA:c mech .dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN ;

    ^ ^
    ? ?

    This works?

    there are no spaces in the original... your reader did something to
    it to place them there...

    Host,393,Cajun_Star,Lafayette_LA,Ben_Ritchey
    cmech .dynip.com,IBN,IMI,IFT,ITN

    Go back and re-read the original.

    i did specifically before i replied to you... your reader is placing spaces where there are none in the original... they are not even
    there in the PKT that brought the post from ben to this system...

    I've been using this same reader for nearly two decades and it never puts anything in quoted text that isn't there. Nor does it delete any text that
    IS there.


    R\%/itt


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    * Origin: Texas Lone-Star - Texan, American, USAian (1:387/22)