In a message on 05-25-18 Paul Quinn said to Richard Menedetter:

Hi Paul et all,

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Since my native language is swedish I'll write it in clear text:

"If it ain't the one, it's the other said the girl with nosebleed"
I'd say it 'with her nose bleeding'.

The Bing translator tells me that it's Swedish, which may or may not
be correct. Anyway it apparently dribbles on about a girl
supposedly with nodebleed, which may or may not be correct either.

The message is correctly translated in the sense that it's
understandable.

How's the weather over there?

Here the weather is quite similar to your winter weather. The afternoon temperature has been above 20øC since may 11th, with very little wind
that would bring slightly refreshment. That is very unusual.

The sea water is already at a temperature we do normally have in late
june and the blugreen algie are already blooming in the sea.

This normally happens in august.


Have a nice evening,

Holger


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Hi! Holger,

On 05/26/2018 09:35 AM, you wrote:

Since my native language is swedish I'll write it in clear text:

"If it ain't the one, it's the other said the girl with nosebleed"
I'd say it 'with her nose bleeding'.

Ah, so. Thank you. But...

The message is correctly translated in the sense that it's
understandable.

Yes. I think you're hinting at a notion that there must be a moral to the story. I think it is perhaps remarking on the vagaries of life's challenges. A tagline may help illustrate this idea... 'whenever I get a grip on reality, the handle falls off'. So... I guess the nosebleed is indicative of a surprise! "life" found for the girl who thought she had life's plan figured out.

What do you reckon? Have you played with any Linux gear recently?

Here the weather is quite similar to your winter weather.

You have my sympathy. Our winter temps are closer to 4-14C. There again, the sky is usually clear and seemingly limitless; the whole continent can sustain continuous days without cloud during most weeks in winter & early spring. I usually still get around in shorts & t-shirt, though with an un-zippered short-sleeved fake-wool vest. Oh, it's terrible. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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In a message on 05-27-18 Paul Quinn said to Holger Granholm:

Good afternoon Paul,

The message is correctly translated in the sense that it's
understandable.

Yes. I think you're hinting at a notion that there must be a moral
to the story.

There doesn't have to be a moral to every proverb. It's just like
Murphy's law like "If anything can go wrong, it will."

guess the nosebleed is indicative of a surprise! "life" found for
the girl who thought she had life's plan figured out.

Any proverb is indicating something, whether it's surprise or something
else, doesn't matter. Maybe just being funny, there are many such pro-
verbs.

What do you reckon? Have you played with any Linux gear recently?

No I haven't. Once there was an ignition in me that should try it, but
the ignition breaker failed. The reason for the failure was the case sensitivity for files and such.

OS/2 isn't case sensitive. Any file/directory name I write in lower or
mixed case is always presented in upper case. The only exception I can
recall is in the list of download directories for saved files/bulletins.

There the name of the directory stays in lower case but it's not
preventing the files moving to the correct directory even if it's
presented in upper case in the directory listing.

I admit however that the case sensitivity of Linux does have advantages.
It gives you hundreds of varietes in naming things but that could also
be a disadvantage.

You have my sympathy. Our winter temps are closer to 4-14C. There
again, the sky is usually clear and seemingly limitless; the whole continent can sustain continuous days without cloud during most
weeks in winter & early spring.

I was wrong regarding your winterweather. I thought it was warmer.

We have now endured these summer temperatures since the 11th of may.
10 to 14øC at night and up to 23 in the afternoons and no rain since
may 3rd.

Admittedly there waqs a lot of water in the soil after the snow melted
but that isn't enough for the summer. This month of may will go to the
annals as one of the warmest, if not the warmest in history.

I usually still get around in shorts & t-shirt, though with an
un-zippered short-sleeved fake-wool shorts & t-shirt, fake-wool
vest. Oh, it's terrible. :)

Well, I had to revert to long arms for a week after both my lower arms
were burned by the constant sunshine. I have now reverted to short
sleeved skirts. My legs didn't suffer from the sunshine even though I
have used shorts since this 'heat wave' started.


Have a good evening,

Holger


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28 May 18 09:42, you wrote to Paul Quinn:

What do you reckon? Have you played with any Linux gear recently?

No I haven't. Once there was an ignition in me that should try it, but
the ignition breaker failed. The reason for the failure was the case sensitivity for files and such.

OS/2 isn't case sensitive. Any file/directory name I write in lower or mixed case is always presented in upper case. The only exception I can recall is in the list of download directories for saved files/bulletins.

There the name of the directory stays in lower case but it's not preventing the files moving to the correct directory even if it's presented in upper case in the directory listing.

I admit however that the case sensitivity of Linux does have advantages. It gives you hundreds of varietes in naming things but that could also
be a disadvantage.

Case sensitivity is something you do adjust to over time.

Saying "Linux is case-sensitive" is a bit simplistic. In the case of Linux and other UNIX systems, case sensitivity is a function of the underlying filesystems provided by the kernel.

This might not be the case for OS/2 where I suspect the case insensitivity is in a layer above the IFS drivers.

Programatically it's easier to write case-insensitive filesystem drivers because case insensitivity depends on which language you are using, unless of course the drivers assume English and map 'a'..'z' to 'A'..'Z' and nothing more.

Linux's cousin, OS X, uses the HFS filesystem which by default case-insensitive. Typing "curl" or "CURL" or "cUrL" in OS X's Terminal will run
the same command.

The arguments are still case sensitive, though! "curl -d" and "CURL -D" will do
different things.

Conceivably you could run a Linux distro from a case-insensitive filesystem, eg. JFS created with "mkfs.jfs -O". It would be an interesting experiment.

Alternatively you could have a separate home partition formatted with "mkfs.jfs
-O" and have the rest of the system use the default ext4.

ZFS pools can also be set to be case-insensitive.

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andrew clarke wrote to Holger Granholm <=-

Case sensitivity is something you do adjust to over time.

Yes, it's second nature after 22 years of Linux. :)

Saying "Linux is case-sensitive" is a bit simplistic. In the case of
Linux and other UNIX systems, case sensitivity is a function of the underlying filesystems provided by the kernel.

That is true, different filesystems behave differently. If you mount a VFAT or NTFS partition, the filesystem will remember the case of the filename as saved, but will match any case (just like Windows does). And same for Mac HFS. If you mount a MS-DOS filesystem, then case is forced, depending on the mount options. In the non UNIX filesystems, there's also issues around ownership and permissions, which are normally specified on the command line.

This might not be the case for OS/2 where I suspect the case
insensitivity is in a layer above the IFS drivers.

Probably both, because HPFS is case insensitive under Linux (or was when I was using it).

Linux's cousin, OS X, uses the HFS filesystem which by default case-insensitive. Typing "curl" or "CURL" or "cUrL" in OS X's Terminal will run the same command.

Yes, that takes a little getting used to as well (I used to own a Mac and loved it). :)


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In a message on 05-30-18 andrew clarke said to Holger Granholm:

Good morning Andrew,

What do you reckon? Have you played with any Linux gear recently?

No I haven't. Once there was an ignition in me that should try it, but
the ignition breaker failed. The reason for the failure was the case sensitivity for files and such.

Case sensitivity is something you do adjust to over time.

Saying "Linux is case-sensitive" is a bit simplistic. In the case of
Linux and other UNIX systems, case sensitivity is a function of the underlying filesystems provided by the kernel.

......... CUT ..........

Thanks for the lesson.


Have a nice day,

Holger


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