• it's

    From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Betty Boop on Thu Apr 21 19:29:59 2022
    Hey Betty!

    $ /lib/libc.so.6
    GNU C Library (GNU libc) stable release version 2.35.
    Copyright (C) 2022 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
    There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
    PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
    Compiled by GNU CC version 11.3.0.
    libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC ABSOLUTE
    For bug reporting instructions, please see: <https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html>.

    $ cat /proc/version
    Linux version 5.17.4 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 11.3.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.38) #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 16:07:48 UTC 2022

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Ða ne sacað þe ætsamne ne beoð.
    They do not quarrel who are not together.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.16(1)-release (x86_64-bitskii-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Maurice Kinal on Fri Apr 22 03:48:30 2022
    Hey Maurice!

    They do not quarrel who are not together.

    Yes they do.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Wynn bruceþ þe can wana lyt, sares and sorge.
    Happiness is enjoyed by the one who knows little want, sorrow or suffering. --- GNU bash, version 5.1.16(1)-release (x86_64-europoint-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Fri Apr 22 21:50:44 2022
    Hello Maurice!

    22 Apr 2022 03:48, Maurice Kinal wrote to Maurice Kinal:

    Hey Maurice!
    They do not quarrel who are not together.
    Yes they do.

    https://tux.junc.eu/phpsysinfo/

    :-)


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

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    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Benny Pedersen on Fri Apr 22 23:17:07 2022
    Hey Benny!

    https://tux.junc.eu/phpsysinfo/

    I am jealous. What does
    gcc -c -Q -march=native --help=target | grep '^ -march='
    have to say about it?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Ælces monnes lif bið sumes monnes lar.
    Every man's life may be a lesson to someone.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.16(1)-release (x86_64-bitskii-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Fri Apr 22 23:31:16 2022
    Hello Maurice!

    22 Apr 2022 23:17, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    https://tux.junc.eu/phpsysinfo/

    I am jealous. What does
    gcc -c -Q -march=native --help=target | grep '^ -march='

    have to say about it?

    nothing :)

    + Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Benny Pedersen on Sat Apr 23 00:05:14 2022
    Hey Benny!

    nothing :)

    -1

    What?!?!?! If true then what a terrible waste. Send it this way and I'll be happy to liberate it from gentoo's evil clutches.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Ne byð þæt fele freond, se þe oþrum facn heleð.
    He who harbours treachery against another is not a faithful friend.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.16(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Benny Pedersen on Sat Apr 23 22:51:12 2022
    Hello Maurice!

    23 Apr 2022 00:05, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    -1

    What?!?!?!

    just nothing with the grep :)

    without the grep it was a long story

    The following options are target specific:
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    att intel

    Known ABIs (for use with the -mabi= option):
    ms sysv

    Known code models (for use with the -mcmodel= option):
    32 kernel large medium small

    Valid arguments to -mfpmath=:
    387 387+sse 387,sse both sse sse+387 sse,387

    Known indirect branch choices (for use with the -mindirect-branch=/-mfunction-return= options):
    keep thunk thunk-extern thunk-inline

    Known choices for return instrumentation with -minstrument-return=:
    call none nop5

    Known data alignment choices (for use with the -malign-data= option):
    abi cacheline compat

    Known vectorization library ABIs (for use with the -mveclibabi= option):
    acml svml

    Known address mode (for use with the -maddress-mode= option):
    long short

    Known preferred register vector length (to use with the -mprefer-vector-width= option):
    128 256 512 none

    Known stack protector guard (for use with the -mstack-protector-guard= option):
    global tls

    Valid arguments to -mstringop-strategy=:
    byte_loop libcall loop rep_4byte rep_8byte rep_byte unrolled_loop vector_loop

    Known TLS dialects (for use with the -mtls-dialect= option):
    gnu gnu2

    Known valid arguments for -march= option:
    i386 i486 i586 pentium lakemont pentium-mmx winchip-c6 winchip2 c3 samuel-2 c3-2 nehemiah c7 esther i686 pentiumpro pentium2 pentium3 pentium3m pentium-m pentium4 pentium4m prescott nocona core2 nehalem corei7 westmere sandybridge corei7-avx ivybridge core-avx-i haswell core-avx2 broadwell skylake skylake-avx512 cannonlake icelake-client rocketlake icelake-server cascadelake tigerlake cooperlake sapphirerapids alderlake bonnell atom silvermont slm goldmont goldmont-plus tremont knl knm intel geode k6 k6-2 k6-3 athlon athlon-tbird athlon-4 athlon-xp athlon-mp x86-64 x86-64-v2 x86-64-v3 x86-64-v4 eden-x2 nano nano-1000 nano-2000 nano-3000 nano-x2 eden-x4 nano-x4 k8 k8-sse3 opteron opteron-sse3 athlon64 athlon64-sse3 athlon-fx amdfam10 barcelona bdver1 bdver2 bdver3 bdver4 znver1 znver2 znver3 btver1 btver2 generic native

    Known valid arguments for -mtune= option:
    generic i386 i486 pentium lakemont pentiumpro pentium4 nocona core2 nehalem sandybridge haswell bonnell silvermont goldmont goldmont-plus tremont knl knm skylake skylake-avx512 cannonlake icelake-client icelake-server cascadelake tigerlake cooperlake sapphirerapids alderlake rocketlake intel geode k6 athlon k8 amdfam10 bdver1 bdver2 bdver3 bdver4 btver1 btver2 znver1 znver2 znver3


    If true then what a terrible waste.

    in what way a waste ?

    Send it this way and
    I'll be happy to liberate it from gentoo's evil clutches.

    make a virt that i can install from, then i can add it with ssh for you :=)

    qemu is nice


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Sat Apr 23 23:02:57 2022
    Hey Benny!

    without the grep it was a long story

    AH! Ye olde compatibilty issue. Also grep here has pcre as a dependency which adds perl regexp. I haven't used a stock grep (without pcre) in ages so I don't recall all the differences offhand. Anyhow here is the answer we are looking for;

    -march= znver2

    Excellent! That is what I suspected from a spec sheet I found posted somewhere, execpt they called it Zen2 if I am not mistaken.

    If true then what a terrible waste.

    in what way a waste ?

    We misunderstood each other. If gcc wasn't onboard, which it obviously is, then it would have been a wasted machine. Without gcc you might as well install windows and then take it out back and shoot it (ie put it out of it's misery). However from what I see I'm definetly interested, although I believe there is a new ryzen that I am led to believe is a znver3. It is also an Asus and is roughly the same cost as yours.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Æt þearfe mann sceal freonda to cunnian.
    In time of need, a man finds out his friends.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.16(1)-release (x86_64-europoint-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)
  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to Maurice Kinal on Wed Apr 27 15:43:32 2022
    Hello Maurice,

    23 April 2022, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    without the grep it was a long story

    AH! Ye olde compatibilty issue. Also grep here has pcre as a
    dependency which adds perl regexp. I haven't used a stock grep
    (without pcre) in ages so I don't recall all the differences offhand. Anyhow here is the answer we are looking for;

    -march= znver2

    Excellent! That is what I suspected from a spec sheet I found posted somewhere, execpt they called it Zen2 if I am not mistaken.

    If true then what a terrible waste.

    in what way a waste ?

    We misunderstood each other. If gcc wasn't onboard, which it
    obviously is, then it would have been a wasted machine. Without gcc
    you might as well install windows and then take it out back and shoot
    it (ie put it out of it's misery). However from what I see I'm
    definetly interested, although I believe there is a new ryzen that I
    am led to believe is a znver3. It is also an Asus and is roughly the
    same cost as yours.

    $ gcc -c -Q -march=native --help=target | grep '^ -march='
    -march= znver3

    # lshw
    [...]
    *-core
    description: Motherboard
    product: PRIME B550-PLUS
    vendor: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
    [...]
    *-memory
    description: System Memory
    physical id: 32
    slot: System board or motherboard
    size: 64GiB
    [...]
    *-cpu
    description: CPU
    product: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G with Radeon Graphics
    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
    physical id: 37
    bus info: cpu@0
    version: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G with Radeon Graphics
    serial: Unknown
    slot: AM4
    size: 2423MHz
    capacity: 4672MHz
    width: 64 bits
    clock: 100MHz
    capabilities: lm fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
    configuration: cores=8 enabledcores=8 threads=16

    Michael

    ... node (at) f1042 (dot) ru
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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Michael Dukelsky on Wed Apr 27 19:47:51 2022
    Hey Michael!

    -march= znver3

    Sweet. I believe that is the same as the Asus micro system I saw advertized. Also there is an Asrock 4x4 that has that same cpu for what seems like a good price.

    configuration: cores=8 enabledcores=8 threads=16

    Excellent. It looks like a keeper from this angle.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... A sceal snotor hycgean ymb þysse worulde gewinn.
    A wise person should always be thinking about this world's strife.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.16(1)-release (x86_64-europoint-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Apr 28 03:26:34 2022
    Hello Maurice!

    27 Apr 2022 19:47, Maurice Kinal wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

    Excellent. It looks like a keeper from this angle.

    # lshw -short -sanitize

    H/W path Device Class Description ===========================================================
    system MINIPC PN50
    /0 bus PN50
    /0/0 memory 64KiB BIOS
    /0/31 memory 31GiB System Memory
    /0/31/0 memory SODIMM DDR4 Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered) 3200 MHz (0.3 ns) [empty]
    /0/31/1 memory SODIMM DDR4 Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered) 3200 MHz (0.3 ns) [empty]
    /0/33 memory 512KiB L1 cache
    /0/34 memory 4MiB L2 cache
    /0/35 memory 8MiB L3 cache
    /0/36 processor AMD Ryzen 7 4800U with Radeon Graphics
    /0/100 bridge Renoir/Cezanne Root Complex /0/100/0.2 generic Renoir/Cezanne IOMMU
    /0/100/1.2 bridge Renoir/Cezanne PCIe GPP Bridge /0/100/1.2/0 bus ASM1042A USB 3.0 Host Controller
    /0/100/1.2/0/0 usb2 bus xHCI Host Controller /0/100/1.2/0/1 usb3 bus xHCI Host Controller
    /0/100/2.1 bridge Renoir/Cezanne PCIe GPP Bridge /0/100/2.1/0 enp2s0f0 network RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
    /0/100/2.1/0.1 communication RTL8111xP UART #1 /0/100/2.1/0.2 communication RTL8111xP UART #2 /0/100/2.1/0.3 bus RTL8111xP IPMI interface /0/100/2.1/0.4 bus RTL811x EHCI host controller /0/100/2.1/0.4/1 usb1 bus EHCI Host Controller
    /0/100/2.2 bridge Renoir/Cezanne PCIe GPP Bridge /0/100/2.2/0 wlp3s0 network Wi-Fi 6 AX200
    /0/100/8.1 bridge Renoir Internal PCIe GPP Bridge to Bus
    /0/100/8.1/0 /dev/fb0 display Renoir
    /0/100/8.1/0.1 card0 multimedia Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio Controller
    /0/100/8.1/0.1/0 input12 input HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=3 /0/100/8.1/0.1/1 input13 input HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=7 /0/100/8.1/0.1/2 input14 input HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=8 /0/100/8.1/0.1/3 input15 input HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=9 /0/100/8.1/0.2 generic Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) Platform Security Processor
    /0/100/8.1/0.3 bus Renoir/Cezanne USB 3.1 /0/100/8.1/0.3/0 usb4 bus xHCI Host Controller /0/100/8.1/0.3/0/2 input18 input dakai PS/2+USB Keyboard /0/100/8.1/0.3/0/4 mmc0 bus USB2.0-CRW
    /0/100/8.1/0.3/1 usb5 bus xHCI Host Controller /0/100/8.1/0.4 bus Renoir/Cezanne USB 3.1 /0/100/8.1/0.4/0 usb6 bus xHCI Host Controller /0/100/8.1/0.4/0/2 input3 input USB Optical Mouse /0/100/8.1/0.4/0/3 communication AX200 Bluetooth /0/100/8.1/0.4/1 usb7 bus xHCI Host Controller /0/100/8.1/0.5 multimedia Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor
    /0/100/8.1/0.6 card1 multimedia Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) HD Audio Controller
    /0/100/8.1/0.6/0 input16 input HD-Audio Generic Mic /0/100/8.1/0.6/1 input17 input HD-Audio Generic Front Headphone
    /0/100/8.1/0.7 generic Raven/Raven2/Renoir Sensor Fusion Hub
    /0/100/8.2 bridge Renoir Internal PCIe GPP Bridge to Bus
    /0/100/8.2/0 scsi1 storage FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] /0/100/8.2/0/0.0.0 /dev/sda disk 1TB Samsung SSD 870 /0/100/8.2/0/0.0.0/1 volume 255MiB Windows FAT volume /0/100/8.2/0/0.0.0/2 /dev/sda2 volume 31GiB Linux swap volume /0/100/8.2/0/0.0.0/3 /dev/sda3 volume 898GiB EXT4 volume /0/100/8.2/0/0.0.0/4 /dev/sda4 volume 541MiB EXT4 volume /0/100/8.2/0.1 storage FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] /0/100/14 bus FCH SMBus Controller /0/100/14.3 bridge FCH LPC Bridge
    /0/100/14.3/0 system System Board
    /0/100/14.3/1 system AT Real-Time Clock /0/100/14.3/2 system Motherboard registers
    /0/101 bridge Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge /0/102 bridge Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge /0/103 bridge Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge /0/104 bridge Renoir Device 24: Function 0 /0/105 bridge Renoir Device 24: Function 1 /0/106 bridge Renoir Device 24: Function 2 /0/107 bridge Renoir Device 24: Function 3 /0/108 bridge Renoir Device 24: Function 4 /0/109 bridge Renoir Device 24: Function 5 /0/10a bridge Renoir Device 24: Function 6 /0/10b bridge Renoir Device 24: Function 7
    /1 input0 input Power Button
    /2 input1 input Sleep Button
    /3 input10 input PC Speaker
    /4 input11 input Eee PC WMI hotkeys
    /5 input2 input Power Button
    /6 input9 input Video Bus



    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

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