• Unsupported Charset

    From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364.1 to All on Mon Jul 29 15:04:52 2019
    Hello All!

    I'm doing tests with smapinntpd, I switched from Thunderbird to PAN to see if the TO: field is ok with PAN but when I try to post a message I get this in the log of the server:

    POST failed (Unsupported charset "UTF-8")

    How can I do to support the UTF-8 charset?

    Many thanks. :)

    Ciao!
    Fabio

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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364.1 to All on Tue Jul 30 09:24:34 2019
    Hello All!

    29 Jul 19 15:04, I wrote to you:

    I'm doing tests with smapinntpd, I switched from Thunderbird to PAN to
    see if the TO: field is ok with PAN but when I try to post a message I
    get this in the log of the server:

    POST failed (Unsupported charset "UTF-8")

    How can I do to support the UTF-8 charset?

    Ok, RTFM always works. :)
    UTF-8 posting is always unsupported! :(
    And PAN has a bug, also if you set another charset it posts always in utf-8.

    Now I'll try with another reader. Any Suggestion? (Platform Linux).

    Ciao!
    Fabio

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Fabio Bizzi on Tue Jul 30 12:07:36 2019
    From Fabio Bizzi To All
    Hello All!
    29 Jul 19 15:04, I wrote to you:
    I'm doing tests with smapinntpd, I switched from Thunderbird to PAN to see if the TO: field is ok with PAN but when I try to post a message I get this in the log of the server:
    POST failed (Unsupported charset "UTF-8")
    How can I do to support the UTF-8 charset?
    Ok, RTFM always works. :)
    UTF-8 posting is always unsupported! :(
    And PAN has a bug, also if you set another charset it posts always in utf-8. Now I'll try with another reader. Any Suggestion? (Platform Linux).
    Nope, docs are outdated, posting utf8 works fine. See my kludges.

    I'll post my config asap. Now mobile only.

    You may try claws mail or sylpheed. I like sylpheed. ;)

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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364.3 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Jul 30 16:18:08 2019
    Hello, Tommi Koivula.
    On 30/07/19 12:07 you wrote:

    From Fabio Bizzi To All
    Nope, docs are outdated, posting utf8 works fine. See my kludges.
    I'll post my config asap. Now mobile only. You may try claws mail
    or sylpheed. I like sylpheed. ;)
    Many thanks!!! :)
    I'll wait for the config. ;)
    --
    Ciao! :)
    Fabio.
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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Fabio Bizzi on Tue Jul 30 17:22:49 2019

    Tuesday July 30 2019 12:07, Tommi Koivula wrote to Fabio Bizzi:

    Nope, docs are outdated, posting utf8 works fine. See my kludges.

    I'll post my config asap. Now mobile only.

    I only added these two lines to my .xlat file:

    read UTF-8 utf-8
    post utf-8 UTF-8

    'Tommi

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384.125 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Jul 31 08:36:27 2019
    Hi! Tommi,

    On 07/31/2019 12:22 AM, you wrote Fabio Bizzi:

    Tuesday July 30 2019 12:07, Tommi Koivula wrote to Fabio Bizzi:

    Nope, docs are outdated, posting utf8 works fine. See my kludges.

    I'll post my config asap. Now mobile only.

    I only added these two lines to my .xlat file:

    read UTF-8 utf-8
    post utf-8 UTF-8

    I did the same thing after Björn posted his back in January 2010. After that I thought I was just lucky if I was careful.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364.1 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Jul 31 07:38:26 2019
    Hello Tommi!

    30 Jul 19 17:22, you wrote to me:

    I only added these two lines to my .xlat file:

    read UTF-8 utf-8
    post utf-8 UTF-8

    Many Thanks!!! :)

    Ciao!
    Fabio

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Paul Quinn on Wed Jul 31 09:46:02 2019

    Nope, docs are outdated, posting utf8 works fine. See my kludges.

    I'll post my config asap. Now mobile only.

    I only added these two lines to my .xlat file:

    read UTF-8 utf-8
    post utf-8 UTF-8

    I did the same thing after Björn posted his back in January 2010.

    So it has to work ok then. :D

    'Tommi

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.6 to Fabio Bizzi on Wed Jul 31 09:49:48 2019
    Hi Fabio.

    31 Jul 19 07:38:26, you wrote to me:

    Hello Tommi!

    30 Jul 19 17:22, you wrote to me:

    I only added these two lines to my .xlat file:

    read UTF-8 utf-8
    post utf-8 UTF-8

    Many Thanks!!! :)

    Prego! :)

    I have these in this server:

    === Cut ===
    read UTF-8 utf-8 utf_utf.chs
    readalias utf_8 utf-8
    post utf-8 UTF-8 utf_utf.chs
    postalias utf_8 utf-8
    === Cut ===

    But the chs table is useless, it converts nothing. I don't remember why I have added the aliases. ;)

    'Tommi

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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364 to All on Wed Jul 31 10:17:58 2019
    Il Wed, 31 Jul 2019 07:49:48 +0300, Tommi Koivula -> Fabio Bizzi ha
    scritto:


    FB> Many Thanks!!! :)

    Prego! :)

    I have these in this server:

    === Cut ===

    Ok, this message is edited and posted with PAN in UTF-8 via smapinntpd,
    let's see if all work fine. :)

    I have also tryied sylpheed, it's nice, it looks like Claws Mail (I love
    Claws Mail) but I fond some troubles with quotation. I have to test it
    deeper. ;)

    Thanks again for all (Grazie ancora per tutto quanto) :)

    Ciao.
    Fabio.

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  • From Bjrn Felten@2:203/2 to Fabio Bizzi on Wed Jul 31 11:14:18 2019
    Ok, this message is edited and posted with PAN in UTF-8 via smapinntpd,

    Not really. It *does* have the kludge, but it's still ASCII only.

    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

    You have to add a combination of characters that are not all supported with any other single code page.

    For instance Еще раз спасибо за вашу помощь and Tack igen för all er hjälp.


    ..

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Fabio Bizzi on Wed Jul 31 11:16:48 2019
    Hello Fabio,

    On Wednesday July 31 2019 10:17, you wrote to :

    @MSGID: 2:335/364 5d414eb7
    @PID: GED+LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    @CHRS: UTF-8 2
    ^
    Should be '4'


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364 to All on Wed Jul 31 11:33:12 2019
    Il Wed, 31 Jul 2019 09:14:18 +0200, Bj?rn Felten -> Fabio Bizzi ha
    scritto:

    Ok, this message is edited and posted with PAN in UTF-8 via
    smapinntpd,

    Not really. It *does* have the kludge, but it's still ASCII only.

    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

    You have to add a combination of characters that are not all
    supported with any other single code page.

    For instance Еще раз спасибо за вашу помощь
    and Tack igen för all er hjälp.


    .

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    Ok, let's see if it works now. :)
    Еще раз спасибо за вашу помощь

    Ciao.
    Fabio.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Jul 31 13:30:15 2019
    @CHRS: UTF-8 2
    MvdV> ^
    MvdV> Should be '4'

    But no known FTN program uses it for anything meaningful.



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  • From Bjrn Felten@2:203/2 to Fabio Bizzi on Wed Jul 31 13:32:06 2019
    For instance Еще раз спасибо за вашу помощь
    and Tack igen för all er hjälp.

    Ok, let's see if it works now. :)
    Еще раз спасибо за вашу помощь

    It does.



    ..

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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364 to All on Wed Jul 31 14:16:44 2019
    Il Wed, 31 Jul 2019 09:16:48 +0200, Michiel van der Vlist -> Fabio Bizzi
    ha scritto:

    @MSGID: 2:335/364 5d414eb7 FB> @PID: GED+LNX 1.1.5-b20180707 FB>
    @CHRS: UTF-8 2
    ^
    Should be '4'


    I saw that all the messages from smapinntpd and jamnntpd have the UTF-8 2.

    BTW I'm not aware of character encoding, the 2 or the 4 stands for? :)

    Thanks.

    Ciao.
    Fabio.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Fabio Bizzi on Wed Jul 31 14:47:56 2019
    Hello Fabio,

    On Wednesday July 31 2019 14:16, you wrote to :

    @CHRS: UTF-8 2
    ^
    Should be '4'


    I saw that all the messages from smapinntpd and jamnntpd have the
    UTF-8 2.

    BTW I'm not aware of character encoding, the 2 or the 4 stands for? :)

    http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-5003.001


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Fabio Bizzi on Wed Jul 31 15:54:54 2019
    BTW I'm not aware of character encoding, the 2 or the 4 stands for? :)

    Never mind, Fabio. It was supposed to mean "level of internationalisation" but nobody has really been able to explain what that means, and there is no known implementation that uses it.

    It works perfectly well whatever number you put in that position, and has done so for more than a decade.



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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364 to All on Wed Jul 31 16:36:46 2019
    Il 31/07/19 13:54, 2203/2 ha scritto:
    BTW I'm not aware of character encoding, the 2 or the 4 stands
    for? :)

    Never mind, Fabio. It was supposed to mean "level of internationalisation" but nobody has really been able to explain what
    that means, and there is no known implementation that uses it.

    It works perfectly well whatever number you put in that position,
    and has done so for more than a decade.

    Thank you, I'll take a look at the FTSC link forwarded by Michiel, I don't want to be blamed for it :P

    Ciao.
    Fabio.

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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364 to All on Wed Jul 31 16:48:48 2019
    2280/5555 ha scritto:

    http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-5003.001

    Thank you, I'll take a look asap. :)

    Ciao.
    Fabio.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Fabio Bizzi on Wed Jul 31 18:06:31 2019
    I don't want to be blamed for it :P

    It's cool, man. I've been pestered about it for many years -- on and off. 8-)



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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364 to All on Wed Jul 31 22:51:12 2019
    On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 16:06:30 +0200
    Björn Felten -> Fabio Bizzi <2:203/2> wrote:
    It's cool, man. I've been pestered about it for many years -- on and off. 8-)

    So I have a chance... :D
    P.S I found how to quote with Sylpheed! WoW :P
    --
    Fabio Bizzi <mimac@bizzi.org>

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Fabio Bizzi on Thu Aug 1 09:40:12 2019
    On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:51:12 +0200 Fabio Bizzi wrote:

    P.S I found how to quote with Sylpheed! WoW :P

    Oh yes, no overquoting. ;)

    Tommi

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