• Netmail

    From Flavio Bessa@4:801/189.1 to All on Fri Dec 2 18:33:48 2016
    Hello everybody.

    Quick question: How does JAMNNTPD handles Netmail?

    Flavio

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Flavio Bessa on Fri Dec 2 23:29:30 2016
    Quick question: How does JAMNNTPD handles Netmail?

    Just put "to: name, address" to the first line of the message. If you reply, it is all automatic. :)

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Flavio Bessa on Sat Dec 3 09:38:42 2016
    On 3/12/2016 6:33 AM, Flavio Bessa -> All wrote:
    Hello everybody.

    Quick question: How does JAMNNTPD handles Netmail?


    Very well.
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    David

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Dec 3 09:39:20 2016
    On 3/12/2016 7:29 AM, Tommi Koivula -> Flavio Bessa wrote:
    Quick question: How does JAMNNTPD handles Netmail?

    Just put "to: name, address" to the first line of the message. If you reply, it is all automatic. :)


    Oh! Is that what he was asking ....

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to David Drummond on Sat Dec 3 06:35:08 2016
    On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:39:20 GMT David Drummond wrote:

    On 3/12/2016 7:29 AM, Tommi Koivula -> Flavio Bessa wrote:
    >> Quick question: How does JAMNNTPD handles Netmail?

    TK> Just put "to: name, address" to the first line of the message. If you
    TK> reply, it is all automatic. :)

    Oh! Is that what he was asking ....

    You tell me. Wasn't he?

    Maybe it doesn't handle it at all, because there is no node 4:801/189 in the nodelist. So there cannot be point 4:801/189.1 either. <g>

    'Tommi

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to All on Tue May 2 17:24:22 2017
    Hey all,

    In jamnntpd.groups, when defining my netmail area, is there a way I can accept netmail to multiple addresses in the same area?

    For example, I receive netmail for both 1:154/10, and 1:154/0. Is there a way I can define one netmail area to accept multiple AKAs, or do I have to define separate netmail areas for each AKA?

    Thanks in advance.

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Nicholas Boel on Wed May 3 09:37:59 2017
    Hi! Nicholas,

    On 02 May 17 17:24, you wrote to All:

    In jamnntpd.groups, when defining my netmail area, is there a way I
    can accept netmail to multiple addresses in the same area?

    Try it & see. I've been running an alias for the WIN95 echomail area for a couple of years, though both carry the same primary address. So, if you have an alias (entry) for your netmail area using an AKA... it orta work fine. Give it a shot. Don't hold back now. And do report back on your adventures. ;-)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Nicholas Boel on Wed May 3 03:34:19 2017
    In jamnntpd.groups, when defining my netmail area, is there a way I can accept netmail to multiple addresses in the same area?

    I'd suggest that you use your mailer to handle that. At least that's how I do it to get all netmail to all my AKAs rerouted to this 2:203/2 JamNNTPd system.




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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Björn Felten on Wed May 3 12:29:23 2017
    Hi! Bjrn,

    On 03 May 17 03:34, you wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    In jamnntpd.groups, when defining my netmail area, is there a way
    I can accept netmail to multiple addresses in the same area?

    I'd suggest that you use your mailer to handle that. At least
    that's how I do it to get all netmail to all my AKAs rerouted to this 2:203/2 JamNNTPd system.

    I was thinking that he wanted a way to respond to various netmails using either his ~/10 primary address -or- his ~/0 NC address, from the _same_ netmail group. *smack* me. 8-)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Paul Quinn on Wed May 3 06:49:48 2017
    I was thinking that he wanted a way to respond to various netmails using either his ~/10 primary address -or- his ~/0 NC address, from the _same_ netmail group. *smack* me. 8-)

    Hold that smacking now, mate! It wasn't crystal clear what he wanted, so your interpretation may very well be as good as mine.

    We'll just have to wait for his response before we know for sure.



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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Björn Felten on Wed May 3 16:29:32 2017
    On 5/2/2017 8:34 PM, Bjrn Felten -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    In jamnntpd.groups, when defining my netmail area, is there a way I
    can accept netmail to multiple addresses in the same area?

    I'd suggest that you use your mailer to handle that. At least that's how I do it to get all netmail to all my AKAs rerouted to this 2:203/2 JamNNTPd system.

    I'm not exactly sure how binkd would handle netmail, but I believe Paul was following what I was looking for.

    At this point in time with my netmail area configured for my /10 address, I don't even see netmail destined to my /0 address (I'm guessing that's due to the "strictnetmail" option I have enabled - but that is because I don't want to read in-transit netmail). I would like to both read and write from both addresses (and possibly more addresses if this is actually doable), if possible, all within one single netmail area.

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Paul Quinn on Wed May 3 16:33:14 2017
    On 5/2/2017 6:37 PM, Paul Quinn -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    In jamnntpd.groups, when defining my netmail area, is there a way I
    can accept netmail to multiple addresses in the same area?

    Try it & see. I've been running an alias for the WIN95 echomail area
    for a couple of years, though both carry the same primary address. So,
    if you have an alias (entry) for your netmail area using an AKA... it
    orta work fine. Give it a shot. Don't hold back now. And do report
    back on your adventures. ;-)

    Try what and see? :)

    That's kinda why I asked the question. Can you list multiple AKAs in the jamnntpd.groups format? It doesn't say so in the description heading.

    So it would either be something like:

    !NETMAIL B 1:154/10 1:154/0 /usr/local/fido/msgbase/netmail

    ... in one single line, or:

    !NETMAIL B 1:154/10 /usr/local/fido/msgbase/netmail
    !NETMAIL B 1:154/0 /usr/local/fido/msgbase/netmail

    ... in two lines. BUT, I would think that if this was not originally thought through in the code, that the second entry would just end up negating the first one, or vice versa.

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Nicholas Boel on Thu May 4 08:29:51 2017
    Hi! Nicholas,

    On 05/04/2017 07:33 AM, you wrote:

    That's kinda why I asked the question. Can you list multiple AKAs in the jamnntpd.groups format? It doesn't say so in the description heading.

    So it would either be something like:
    !NETMAIL B 1:154/10 1:154/0 /usr/local/fido/msgbase/netmail

    Nup. Doesn't fit with the spec's format. Only one AKA per group (definition) allowed, thank you very much. Two definitions can certainly be better, and more fun too. ;-)

    !NETMAIL B 1:154/10 /usr/local/fido/msgbase/netmail
    !NETMAIL B 1:154/0 /usr/local/fido/msgbase/netmail

    .. in two lines. BUT, I would think that if this was not originally thought through in the code, that the second entry would just end up negating the first one, or vice versa.

    Yeah, two lines is what I had in mind. Kind of like Golded's capacity to toggle through a collection of AKAs, based on definitions in the config file. You still need to have a friendly tosser at yer back, configured to handle the AKAs used by JamNNTPd. You knew that, that's why I won't mention it.

    Try it & see. :)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Paul Quinn on Wed May 3 21:56:48 2017
    On 5/3/2017 5:29 PM, Paul Quinn -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    !NETMAIL B 1:154/10 /usr/local/fido/msgbase/netmail
    !NETMAIL B 1:154/0 /usr/local/fido/msgbase/netmail

    .. in two lines. BUT, I would think that if this was not originally
    thought through in the code, that the second entry would just end up
    negating the first one, or vice versa.

    Yeah, two lines is what I had in mind. Kind of like Golded's capacity
    to toggle through a collection of AKAs, based on definitions in the
    config file. You still need to have a friendly tosser at yer back, configured to handle the AKAs used by JamNNTPd. You knew that, that's
    why I won't mention it.

    Yeah, I already have this setup the way I'm describing with Golded and hpt. I'd just like to be able to utilize the same setup with jamnntpd and hpt.

    Try it & see. :)

    I may give it a go.

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    Nick

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Nicholas Boel on Thu May 4 06:41:02 2017

    On 2017 May 03 16:29:32, you wrote to Björn Felten:

    In jamnntpd.groups, when defining my netmail area, is there a way I
    can accept netmail to multiple addresses in the same area?

    I'd suggest that you use your mailer to handle that. At least that's
    how I do it to get all netmail to all my AKAs rerouted to this
    2:203/2 JamNNTPd system.

    I'm not exactly sure how binkd would handle netmail, but I believe
    Paul was following what I was looking for.

    binkd doesn't handle netmail other than passing the PKTs it is packed in along to the system the /tosser/ packed it for... bjrn should know this... it is up to the tosser to route netmail on a BSO system...

    At this point in time with my netmail area configured for my /10
    address, I don't even see netmail destined to my /0 address (I'm
    guessing that's due to the "strictnetmail" option I have enabled - but that is because I don't want to read in-transit netmail). I would like
    to both read and write from both addresses (and possibly more
    addresses if this is actually doable), if possible, all within one
    single netmail area.

    depending on the system software and configuration, it can be done but it requires specific capabilities... doesn't jamnntpd have a specific way of addressing netmail? something using the first line(s) of the message body to indicate to jamnntpd that something different must be done?

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Nicholas Boel on Thu May 4 16:03:36 2017
    Nicholas Boel : All wrote:

    In jamnntpd.groups, when defining my netmail area, is there a way I can accept netmail to multiple addresses in the same area?

    My understanding is that Jamnntpd only checks your name, not the address, in netmail areas.

    For example, I receive netmail for both 1:154/10, and 1:154/0. Is there
    a way I can define one netmail area to accept multiple AKAs, or do I
    have to define separate netmail areas for each AKA?

    So, if you have netmail to your name, Jamnntpd shows the netmail to you.

    The aka defined in the groups file will be used when you write netmail.

    'Tommi

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Nicholas Boel on Thu May 4 18:23:34 2017
    On 4.5.2017 0:29, Nicholas Boel : Björn Felten wrote:

    At this point in time with my netmail area configured for my /10
    address, I don't even see netmail destined to my /0 address (I'm
    guessing that's due to the "strictnetmail" option I have enabled - but
    that is because I don't want to read in-transit netmail).

    I just tested at 2:221/6 that I can read an in-transit netmail from my point@work to my another test point.

    X-JAM-From: Tommi Koivula <2:221/360.8110>
    X-JAM-To: Tommi Koivula <2:221/6.1>
    X-JAM-TRACE: 2:221/360.8110 @20170504.144602.UTC hpt/w64-mvcdll
    X-JAM-TRACE: 2:221/360 @20170504.144616.UTC O/T-Track+ 2.85
    X-JAM-TRACE: 2:221/1 @20170504.175534 CFR-OS/2 20010702-devel
    X-JAM-MSGID: 2:221/360.8110 590b3ea7
    X-JAM-FTSKLUDGE: CHRS: CP850 2
    X-JAM-TZUTCINFO: 0300
    X-JAM-Attributes: Private Sent TypeNet

    But I can read only netmail to or from my name. And I do have 'strictnetmail' on.

    If you want to *send* from multiple addresses, I think you need to create multiple netmail boards. :(

    'Tommi

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Tommi Koivula on Fri May 5 08:30:56 2017
    Hi! Tommi,

    On 05/05/2017 01:23 AM, you wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    But I can read only netmail to or from my name. And I do have 'strictnetmail' on.

    So have I. I set an netmail /alias/ for my RC54 'target' in my groups file on ~/384, and was still able to read a test outbound mail from it using my primary address's group entry.

    If you want to *send* from multiple addresses, I think you need to
    create multiple netmail boards. :(

    Mmm... I would think it depends on the abilities of your tosser package. But it's probably best to use a different 'board' for each network, from a logical POV.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to mark lewis on Thu May 4 20:27:26 2017
    On 5/4/2017 5:41 AM, mark lewis -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    binkd doesn't handle netmail other than passing the PKTs it is packed in along to the system the /tosser/ packed it for... björn should know this... it is up to the tosser to route netmail on a BSO system...

    I know this. But apparantly Björn's mailer can handle netmail, so we'll leave it at that.

    depending on the system software and configuration, it can be done but
    it requires specific capabilities... doesn't jamnntpd have a specific
    way of addressing netmail? something using the first line(s) of the message body to indicate to jamnntpd that something different must be done?

    Jamnntpd uses the first line to fill in the TO field only, as far as I know. There is nothing you can do to enter what AKA you're actually sending from.

    However, I'm not concerned about sending with another address. I just want to be able to read/access it, and jamnntpd doesn't seem to be allowing for that.

    I have it setup this way in Golded+ and it works fine there. I was just wondering/hoping there was a way to do the same with jamnntpd, is all.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360.8110 to Nicholas Boel on Fri May 5 07:51:46 2017
    Hello Nicholas!

    04 May 17 20:27, you wrote to mark lewis:

    However, I'm not concerned about sending with another address. I just
    want to be able to read/access it, and jamnntpd doesn't seem to be allowing for that.

    If you set your hpt to store all netmail to all of your aka's to a single jam netmail base, you should be able to do that.

    At least I can. :)

    'Tommi

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Nicholas Boel on Fri May 5 10:48:04 2017

    On 2017 May 04 20:27:26, you wrote to me:

    binkd doesn't handle netmail other than passing the PKTs it is packed
    in along to the system the /tosser/ packed it for... björn should
    know this... it is up to the tosser to route netmail on a BSO
    system...

    I know this. But apparantly Björn's mailer can handle netmail, so
    we'll leave it at that.

    probably because he is using an intelligent mailer that dynamically packs netmail based on the qualifications of the current event... frontdoor operates that way... i've never routed netmails with fastecho... even in my hybrid environment with frontdoor and binkd...

    depending on the system software and configuration, it can be done
    but it requires specific capabilities... doesn't jamnntpd have a
    specific way of addressing netmail? something using the first line(s)
    of the message body to indicate to jamnntpd that something different
    must be done?

    Jamnntpd uses the first line to fill in the TO field only, as far as I know. There is nothing you can do to enter what AKA you're actually sending from.

    ahhh, right... kind of like the UUCP gateways and how they operate when the destination TO: is too large to fit into the field in the editor...

    However, I'm not concerned about sending with another address. I just
    want to be able to read/access it, and jamnntpd doesn't seem to be allowing for that.

    that's weird...

    I have it setup this way in Golded+ and it works fine there. I was
    just wondering/hoping there was a way to do the same with jamnntpd, is all.

    ahhh... ok...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Tommi Koivula on Fri May 5 16:16:40 2017
    On 5/4/2017 11:51 PM, Tommi Koivula -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    However, I'm not concerned about sending with another address. I just
    want to be able to read/access it, and jamnntpd doesn't seem to be
    allowing for that.

    If you set your hpt to store all netmail to all of your aka's to a
    single jam netmail base, you should be able to do that.

    At least I can. :)

    I have done it this way, and it works fine in Golded. However, what I'm seeing in jamnntpd may not yet be completely figured out yet - and may not be an issue with jamnntpd whatsoever.

    When I received a netmail from Paul from his 3:54/0 address, it was addressed to 1:154/0, which I didn't see in my newsreader at first. It wasn't until after that I realized he routed that specific netmail through the link I'm having issues with, instead of our normal direct flavour with our mostly used AKAs. This is ending up as *.sec files in my unsecure inbound directory.

    I have a link that hpt is marking all netmail from as a security violation. However, I have tried both defining the link in my config without a password, as well as completely removing the link and just let the netmail processing do it's thing. Still same results so far.

    I have changed my default setting (secure) for allowemptypktpwd to "on" for that link while keeping them defined without a pkt password, and am awaiting to see if that fixes the issue.

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to mark lewis on Fri May 5 16:22:48 2017
    On 5/5/2017 9:48 AM, mark lewis -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    However, I'm not concerned about sending with another address. I just
    want to be able to read/access it, and jamnntpd doesn't seem to be
    allowing for that.

    that's weird...

    I may have spoke too soon on that even. I'm working on some hpt config changes to try to fix it.

    I have it setup this way in Golded+ and it works fine there. I was
    just wondering/hoping there was a way to do the same with jamnntpd, is
    all.

    ahhh... ok...

    Fairly certain I would need multiple netmail areas in order to actually send outgoing netmail with different AKAs, but I do believe I'll be able to read incoming netmail to multiple AKAs as long as any of my names defined in jamnntpd.users matches the TO field of the incoming netmail. For now that'll work, but the moment I have to reply to a netmail with a different AKA, well.. I'll probably have to add more netmail areas. :)

    I guess that's one thing the Golded+ devs did nicely. AKA matching all in one netmail area is probably under-realized by many, but is a very nice feature.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Nicholas Boel on Sat May 6 10:34:59 2017
    On Fri, 5 May 2017 16:22:48 -0500 Nicholas Boel wrote:

    I guess that's one thing the Golded+ devs did nicely. AKA matching all
    in one netmail area is probably under-realized by many, but is a very
    nice feature.

    Yes indeed. But sometimes it is also very annoying feature. If you manually try to send netmail with certain address, Golded insists to change it. ;)

    'Tommi

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Tommi Koivula on Sun May 7 16:23:22 2017
    I guess that's one thing the Golded+ devs did nicely. AKA matching all
    in one netmail area is probably under-realized by many, but is a very
    nice feature.

    Yes indeed. But sometimes it is also very annoying feature. If you manually try to send netmail with certain address, Golded insists to change it. ;)

    I've never had that problem. Golded usually starts with (I assume the first one you listed in your config file) a certain address in the FROM field, but you can easily tab over to it and change it manually to one of the others you have listed.

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    Nick

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Sat Jul 27 03:49:21 2019
    Hello Bjrn,

    If i remember correctly, real names are required in netmail only.

    Most echo moderators state in their echo rules that real names are HG>>used.

    That is a moderators requirement for an echo, not for fidonet.
    Echomail isn't covered in Fido's P4.

    Of course it is. It's mentioned more than 30 times. Your statement
    is a relic from an old Z1 administration that now has been replaced.

    OTOH real names are not mentioned at all, not even "in netmail only".

    This is not a flame, or intended to be.

    I have a legitimate question concerning netmail and JamNNTPd.

    Setting up JB's program is pretty much straightforward.
    However, when trying to use a fake name with netmail, it
    does not seem to work as it should. Does that mean that
    those who chose to use JB's program must use their real
    name to send/receive netmail?

    Thanks in advance.

    --Lee

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Jul 27 10:11:04 2019
    Hi Lee.

    27 Jul 19 03:49:20, you wrote to Bjrn Felten:

    This is not a flame, or intended to be.

    I have a legitimate question concerning netmail and JamNNTPd.

    Setting up JB's program is pretty much straightforward.
    However, when trying to use a fake name with netmail, it
    does not seem to work as it should. Does that mean that
    those who chose to use JB's program must use their real
    name to send/receive netmail?

    Jamnntpd users file has the 5th field which is used for sending/reading private netmail messages. It may contain multiple names to receive netmail, but the first name is always used for outbound.

    === Cut ===

    # User configuration file for JamNNTd
    #
    # Syntax:
    #
    # <username> <password> <readgroups> <postgroups> [<realnames>]
    #
    # "*" means "all groups" and "-" means "no groups".
    #
    # Optionally, you can also specify one or more "real" names for the user.
    # Multiple names are separated by a comma. It is necessary to supply
    # realnames if you want to use JamNNTPd with netmail as users can only read
    # netmails to or from one of these names. It is possible to use the "?"
    # and "*" wildcards in the realnames.
    #
    # It it also only possible for a user to cancel messages that were written
    # by a name that matches their realnames.
    #
    # When a user posts a message, the first realname is used as the from name
    # unless it contains wildcards. If the first realname contains wildcards or
    # if no realnames are supplied, the from name is taken from the From: header
    # line of the posted message.
    #
    # If you use non-ascii characters in the realname, they should be in the
    # character set used on the NNTP side, most often iso-8859-1.

    tommi xxxx * * "Tommi Koivula,sysop,fake user"

    === Cut ===

    'Tommi

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Jul 27 18:10:42 2019
    Hi! Tommi,

    On 27 Jul 19 10:11, you wrote to Lee Lofaso:

    tommi xxxx * * "Tommi Koivula,sysop,fake user"

    I just a sudden and evil thought...

    sysop xxxx * * "fake user,tommi,Tommi Koivula"

    I.e. a second account. :)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    ... When the need arises, any tool closest to you becomes a hammer.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130515
    * Origin: Quinn's Rock - Live from Paul's Xubuntu desktop! (3:640/1384)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Paul Quinn on Sat Jul 27 11:32:06 2019
    Hello, Paul Quinn
    On 27/07/2019 8.10 you wrote:

    From Paul Quinn To Tommi Koivula
    Hi! Tommi,
    On 27 Jul 19 10:11, you wrote to Lee Lofaso:
    tommi xxxx * * "Tommi Koivula,sysop,fake user"
    I just a sudden and evil thought...
    sysop xxxx * * "fake user,tommi,Tommi Koivula"
    I.e. a second account. :)

    Yes. In fact I do have multiple accounts, for testing purposes and also because this hotdoged doesnt support nntps. ;(

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    * Origin: smapinntpd/linux @ nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Paul Quinn on Sat Jul 27 11:42:26 2019
    Hello, Paul Quinn.
    On 27/07/2019 8.10 you wrote:

    From Paul Quinn To Tommi Koivula
    Hi! Tommi,
    On 27 Jul 19 10:11, you wrote to Lee Lofaso:
    tommi xxxx * * "Tommi Koivula,sysop,fake user"
    I just a sudden and evil thought...
    sysop xxxx * * "fake user,tommi,Tommi Koivula"
    I.e. a second account. :)

    Just another evil thought... If you leave the 5th field out, you can set up the from name in the news client.

    In this case receiving netmail is not possible but sending... ;)

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    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Jul 27 18:52:25 2019
    Hi! Tommi,

    On 27 Jul 19 11:42, you wrote to me:

    Just another evil thought... If you leave the 5th field out, you can
    set up the from name in the news client.

    In this case receiving netmail is not possible but sending... ;)

    Okay, you win. You are more evil than me.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    ... Polaroids: What polar bears get from sitting on icebergs.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130515
    * Origin: Quinn's Rock - Live from Paul's Xubuntu desktop! (3:640/1384)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Paul Quinn on Sat Jul 27 17:46:26 2019
    Hello, Paul Quinn
    On 27/07/2019 8.52 you wrote:

    From Paul Quinn To Tommi Koivula
    Hi! Tommi,
    On 27 Jul 19 11:42, you wrote to me:
    Just another evil thought... If you leave the 5th field out, you can
    set up the from name in the news client.
    In this case receiving netmail is not possible but sending... ;)
    Okay, you win. You are more evil than me.

    :D


    --
    Tommi

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