Hello Tommi,

I see you found me:

- 20:54 [8112] incoming from 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92 (1195)
+ 20:54 [2044] incoming session with 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92
- 20:54 [2044] SYS RBBv6
- 20:54 [2044] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
- 20:54 [2044] LOC ::1
- 20:54 [2044] NDL IBN,ICM
- 20:54 [2044] TIME Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:54:44 +0200
- 20:54 [2044] VER binkd/1.1a-49/OS2 binkp/1.1
+ 20:54 [2044] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
- 20:54 [2044] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
+ 20:54 [2044] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
+ 20:54 [2044] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 20:54 [2044] Remote requests CRYPT mode
- 20:54 [2044] TRF 0 0
+ 20:54 [2044] Remote has 0b of mail and 0b of files for us
+ 20:54 [2044] done (from 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
20:54 [2044] session closed, quitting...

I didn't know you were IPv6 capable.

But it does not work both ways. I get an IPv4 connect from you. Perhaps you use a Teredo tunnel?


01:02 [5908] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
01:02 [5908] creating a poll for 2:221/6@fidonet (`d' flavour)
01:02 [5908] clientmgr started
+ 01:02 [3796] call to 2:221/6@fidonet
01:02 [3796] trying cow.dy.fi [91.155.97.33]...
01:02 [3796] connected
+ 01:02 [3796] outgoing session with 91.155.97.33
- 01:02 [3796] OPT CRAM-MD5-b0fe5cac5cb3e93be96e04bdf4efbfee
+ 01:02 [3796] Remote requests MD mode
- 01:02 [3796] SYS Cow
- 01:02 [3796] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
- 01:02 [3796] LOC [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]
- 01:02 [3796] NDL BND
- 01:02 [3796] TIME Sat, 8 Feb 2014 02:02:51 +0200
- 01:02 [3796] VER binkd/1.1a-49/CYGWIN_NT-5.2 binkp/1.1
+ 01:02 [3796] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
- 01:02 [3796] OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
+ 01:02 [3796] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 01:02 [3796] done (to 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
01:02 [3796] session closed, quitting...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555.6)

On 8.2.2014 1:57, Michiel van der Vlist -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

MvdV> Hello Tommi,

MvdV> I see you found me:

MvdV> - 20:54 [8112] incoming from 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92 (1195)
MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] incoming session with 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92
MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] SYS RBBv6
MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] LOC ::1
MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] NDL IBN,ICM
MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] TIME Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:54:44 +0200
MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] VER binkd/1.1a-49/OS2 binkp/1.1
MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] Remote requests CRYPT mode
MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] TRF 0 0
MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] Remote has 0b of mail and 0b of files for us
MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] done (from 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
MvdV> 20:54 [2044] session closed, quitting...

MvdV> I didn't know you were IPv6 capable.

Sure. :)

But as you can see, I polled your system by IPv6 from OS/2 machine.
There is not and wont ever be IPv6 for OS/2.

That outbound connection was possible via http proxy in a windows machine.

MvdV> But it does not work both ways. I get an IPv4 connect from you. Perhaps
MvdV> you use a Teredo tunnel?

No teredo but 6to4 in my Linksys WRT54GL (DD-WRT) router.

Inbound IPv6 to 2:221/6 is possible, but I have noticed some hickups in
the 6to4 gateway. Rebooted the router this morning.

2:221/6 is native win32 and is running on a Windows 2003 Server.

MvdV> 01:02 [5908] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
MvdV> 01:02 [5908] creating a poll for 2:221/6@fidonet (`d' flavour)
MvdV> 01:02 [5908] clientmgr started
MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] call to 2:221/6@fidonet
MvdV> 01:02 [3796] trying cow.dy.fi [91.155.97.33]...
MvdV> 01:02 [3796] connected
MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] outgoing session with 91.155.97.33
MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] OPT CRAM-MD5-b0fe5cac5cb3e93be96e04bdf4efbfee
MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] Remote requests MD mode
MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] SYS Cow
MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] LOC [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]
MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] NDL BND
MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] TIME Sat, 8 Feb 2014 02:02:51 +0200
MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] VER binkd/1.1a-49/CYGWIN_NT-5.2 binkp/1.1
MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] done (to 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
MvdV> 01:02 [3796] session closed, quitting...

[C:\]host cow.dy.fi
cow.dy.fi has address 91.155.97.33
cow.dy.fi has IPv6 address 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92

How about if you set up this in your binkd conf:

node 2:221/6 -6 *

'Tommi

--- JamNNTPd/OS2 1.05
* Origin: ---------------------------------------- (2:221/360)

Hello Tommi,

On Saturday February 08 2014 10:12, you wrote to me:

On 8.2.2014 1:57, Michiel van der Vlist -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

MvdV>> 20:54 [2044] VER binkd/1.1a-49/OS2 binkp/1.1 +

MvdV>> I didn't know you were IPv6 capable.

Sure. :)

But as you can see, I polled your system by IPv6 from OS/2 machine.

Yes, now that you mention it, I see it. I hadn't noticed before.

There is not and wont ever be IPv6 for OS/2.

Two years ago - at a computer meeting - I spoke to a guy from eComStation (the Successor of OS/2) and he assured me that IPv6 was coming. Haven't heard from them since...

That outbound connection was possible via http proxy in a windows
machine.

Ah, cheating! ;-)

MvdV>> But it does not work both ways. I get an IPv4 connect from you.
MvdV>> Perhaps you use a Teredo tunnel?

No teredo but 6to4 in my Linksys WRT54GL (DD-WRT) router.

I too have a 6to4 tunntl in a Linksys WRT54GL. But it runs OpenWrt.

Inbound IPv6 to 2:221/6 is possible, but I have noticed some hickups
in the 6to4 gateway. Rebooted the router this morning.

2:221/6 is native win32 and is running on a Windows 2003 Server.

Ok.

How about if you set up this in your binkd conf:

node 2:221/6 -6 *

Yes, that works:

D:\FIDO\BINKD>binkd -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
15:17 [6436] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
15:17 [6436] creating a poll for 2:221/6@fidonet (`d' flavour)
15:17 [6436] clientmgr started
+ 15:17 [5128] call to 2:221/6@fidonet
15:17 [5128] trying cow.dy.fi [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]...
15:17 [5128] connected
+ 15:17 [5128] outgoing session with 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92
- 15:17 [5128] OPT CRAM-MD5-2a0b71e21a78326673cc3b5028f514ee
+ 15:17 [5128] Remote requests MD mode
- 15:17 [5128] SYS Cow
- 15:17 [5128] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
- 15:17 [5128] LOC [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]
- 15:17 [5128] NDL BND
- 15:17 [5128] TIME Sat, 8 Feb 2014 16:17:45 +0200
- 15:17 [5128] VER binkd/1.1a-49/CYGWIN_NT-5.2 binkp/1.1
+ 15:17 [5128] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
- 15:17 [5128] OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
+ 15:17 [5128] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 15:17 [5128] done (to 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
15:17 [5128] session closed, quitting...
15:17 [6436] the queue is empty, quitting...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: IPv6 test point (2:280/5555.6)

There is not and wont ever be IPv6 for OS/2.

MvdV> Two years ago - at a computer meeting - I spoke to a guy from
MvdV> eComStation (the Successor of OS/2) and he assured me that IPv6 was
MvdV> coming. Haven't heard from them since...

I never liked ECS, so I'm with WSEB as long as I run OS/2...

That outbound connection was possible via http proxy in a windows
machine.

MvdV> Ah, cheating! ;-)

Ah, we need to get this into binkd docs, using proxy is cheating!

How about if you set up this in your binkd conf:

node 2:221/6 -6 *

MvdV> Yes, that works:

D:\FIDO\BINKD>> binkd -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
MvdV> 15:17 [6436] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
MvdV> 15:17 [6436] creating a poll for 2:221/6@fidonet (`d' flavour)
MvdV> 15:17 [6436] clientmgr started
MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] call to 2:221/6@fidonet
MvdV> 15:17 [5128] trying cow.dy.fi [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]...
MvdV> 15:17 [5128] connected
MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] outgoing session with 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92
MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] OPT CRAM-MD5-2a0b71e21a78326673cc3b5028f514ee
MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] Remote requests MD mode
MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] SYS Cow
MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] LOC [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]
MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] NDL BND
MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] TIME Sat, 8 Feb 2014 16:17:45 +0200
MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] VER binkd/1.1a-49/CYGWIN_NT-5.2 binkp/1.1
MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] done (to 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
MvdV> 15:17 [5128] session closed, quitting...
MvdV> 15:17 [6436] the queue is empty, quitting...

Great, now you can route R22 mail thru 2:221/6. ;-)

'Tommi

--- JamNNTPd/OS2 1.05
* Origin: ---------------------------------------- (2:221/360)

Hello Tommi,

On Saturday February 08 2014 18:43, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Two years ago - at a computer meeting - I spoke to a guy from
MvdV>> eComStation (the Successor of OS/2) and he assured me that IPv6
MvdV>> was coming. Haven't heard from them since...

I never liked ECS, so I'm with WSEB as long as I run OS/2...

OK, but I think OS/2 is a dead end either way. I tried it for a while 15 years ago and I liked it. Until I got into networking and I could not make it talk to Novell (Personal) Netware. Of course it can do TCP/IP now, but then I had already turned away from it. It seems OS/2 is always one or two steps behind when it comes to networking. And now it does not support IPv6 and as you say, it most likely never will. So for me, end of story.

That outbound connection was possible via http proxy in a
windows machine.

MvdV>> Ah, cheating! ;-)

Ah, we need to get this into binkd docs, using proxy is cheating!

Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is used to trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I call that cheating. ;-)

How about if you set up this in your binkd conf:

node 2:221/6 -6 *

MvdV>> Yes, that works:

Great, now you can route R22 mail thru 2:221/6. ;-)

I may consider that when I have converted my main system to IPv6. ;-)

Stay tuned.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: IPv6 Test Point (2:280/5555.6)

Hello Michiel!

12 Feb 14 01:30, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

That outbound connection was possible via http proxy in a
windows machine.

MvdV>>> Ah, cheating! ;-)

Ah, we need to get this into binkd docs, using proxy is cheating!

MvdV> Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is used to
MvdV> trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I call that
MvdV> cheating. ;-)

Why, conversion plugs and connectors are used everywhere. In fidonet we
have people using Vmodem drivers to make old software think the internet
is a POTS line. Now a proxy is used on a different system, and it suddenly is
called cheating ??

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

On 12.2.2014 2:30, Michiel van der Vlist -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

MvdV>>> Ah, cheating! ;-)

Ah, we need to get this into binkd docs, using proxy is cheating!

MvdV> Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is used to
MvdV> trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I call that
MvdV> cheating. ;-)

How about good old NAT in IPv4 network? Cheating?

My OS/2 server has only one address: 192.168.1.2. It cannot communicate
with internet without cheating. I mean NAT. ;)

How about IPv6 tunnels? Cheating with big C. ;)

'Tommi

--- JamNNTPd/OS2 1.05
* Origin: ---------------------------------------- (2:221/360)

Hello Kees,

On Wednesday February 12 2014 12:25, you wrote to me:

Ah, we need to get this into binkd docs, using proxy is
cheating!

MvdV>> Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is
MvdV>> used to trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I
MvdV>> call that cheating. ;-)

Why, conversion plugs and connectors are used everywhere. In fidonet
we have people using Vmodem drivers to make old software think the internet is a POTS line. Now a proxy is used on a different system,
and it suddenly is called cheating ??

You missed the smiley?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: IPv6 Test Point (2:280/5555.6)

Hello Tommi,

On Wednesday February 12 2014 15:21, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is
MvdV>> used to trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I
MvdV>> call that cheating. ;-)

How about good old NAT in IPv4 network? Cheating?

Definitely! ;-)

My OS/2 server has only one address: 192.168.1.2. It cannot
communicate with internet without cheating. I mean NAT. ;)

How about IPv6 tunnels? Cheating with big C. ;)

Sure. ;-)

Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: IPv6 Test Point (2:280/5555.6)

Hello Michiel!

12 Feb 14 16:26, you wrote to me:

MvdV>>> Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is
MvdV>>> used to trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I
MvdV>>> call that cheating. ;-)

Why, conversion plugs and connectors are used everywhere. In fidonet
we have people using Vmodem drivers to make old software think the
internet is a POTS line. Now a proxy is used on a different system,
and it suddenly is called cheating ??

MvdV> You missed the smiley?

Well you know I have no sense of Humor. ;-))

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)