Hello All,

Mozilla pushed FireFox Quantum (57.0.3) down the throat of my laptop. Now the IPvFox add-on does not work anymore.

Mozilla suggests BongoKarl101010 as a replacement. That lists the adresses, but only after pushing the butten, it does not show a blu 6/ read 4 like IPvFpx does... Not what I want.


Suggestions?


Cheers, Michiel

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MvdV> Suggestions?

Google Chrome? IPvFoo still works like a charm.



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Hi Michiel!

Jan 21 13:12 2018, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

MvdV> Mozilla pushed FireFox Quantum (57.0.3) down the throat of my
MvdV> laptop. Now the IPvFox add-on does not work anymore.

https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
https://www.palemoon.org/

Mozilla has made several dumb decisions the last year and lost several users because of that. They've broken so much things on purpose that it doesn't matter much that Quantum is faster. When they enforced PulseAudio f�r linux I ditched Firefox as main browser.

ciao,
Markus

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Good ${greeting_time}, Markus!

21 Jan 18 13:37, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

https://www.palemoon.org/

I use it on Windows system... Very pity, that there are no assemblies under OS X =((((

With best regards, Alexandr.

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Hello Michiel!

21 Jan 18 13:12, you wrote to All:

MvdV> Mozilla pushed FireFox Quantum (57.0.3) down the throat of my laptop.
MvdV> Now the IPvFox add-on does not work anymore.

MvdV> Mozilla suggests BongoKarl101010 as a replacement. That lists the
MvdV> adresses, but only after pushing the butten, it does not show a blu 6/
MvdV> read 4 like IPvFpx does... Not what I want.


MvdV> Suggestions?

Ditch Internet, everybody is actively cutting it into silos.

Kees

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Sunday January 21 2018 13:38, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Suggestions?

Google Chrome? IPvFoo still works like a charm.

Considering that Google's prima activity is hoerding data, I try to stay away from them.

Plus that Google Chrome no longer supports Win XP and my main Fido machine still runs XP...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Markus,

On Sunday January 21 2018 13:37, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Mozilla pushed FireFox Quantum (57.0.3) down the throat of my
MvdV>> laptop. Now the IPvFox add-on does not work anymore.

https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
https://www.palemoon.org/

Hmm... Interesting but I was not looking for a replacement for Firefox, just for a replacement for the IPvFox add-on...

Mozilla has made several dumb decisions the last year and lost several users because of that. They've broken so much things on purpose that
it doesn't matter much that Quantum is faster. When they enforced PulseAudio f�r linux I ditched Firefox as main browser.

Until now, I considered FireFox the least of the available evils. It still supports XP, but it has a tendency to freeze up after watching many videos. :-(


Cheers, Michiel

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x) Sunday Jan 21, 2018, 13:12. Michiel van der Vlist �� All.

MvdV> Mozilla pushed FireFox Quantum (57.0.3) down the throat of my laptop.
MvdV> Now the IPvFox add-on does not work anymore.

Well, all this webext stuff is flawed by design, so I suggest you to install either Firefox 52 ESR (still supported branch, all xul addons will work), Pale Moon (alternative to classic FF, some addons may not work) or Basilisk (alternative to 52 ESR, in beta).

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x) Sunday Jan 21, 2018, 13:38. Bj�rn Felten �� Michiel van der Vlist.

MvdV>> Suggestions?

Google Chrome? IPvFoo still works like a charm.

This should be last resort. I don't recommend Chrome for everyday browsing activities because of it's being such a resource hog and strong ties with Google.

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x) Sunday Jan 21, 2018, 17:48. Alexandr Kruglikov �� Markus Reschke.

https://www.palemoon.org/

I use it on Windows system... Very pity, that there are no assemblies under OS X =((((

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=18047 ?

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x) Sunday Jan 21, 2018, 21:18. Michiel van der Vlist �� Markus Reschke.

MvdV> Hmm... Interesting but I was not looking for a replacement for Firefox,
MvdV> just for a replacement for the IPvFox add-on...

They broke addons in unrecoverable way, so there's not much difference from Chrome now, unless you will stick to 52 ESR.

MvdV> Until now, I considered FireFox the least of the available evils. It
MvdV> still supports XP, but it has a tendency to freeze up after watching
MvdV> many videos.
MvdV> :-(

If it is 32-bit XP, the problem is "out of memory", because of entire user space gets limited to 2GB by default (could be extended with /3GB switch). And HTML5 content, such as videos, cause major memory leaks in FF-based browsers.

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21 Jan 18 21:11:08, you wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

Google Chrome? IPvFoo still works like a charm.

Considering that Google's prima activity is hoerding data, I try to stay away from them.

Plus that Google Chrome no longer supports Win XP and my main Fido machine
still runs XP...

Then go back to Firefox 56.0.2 and don't let it upgrade.

I did that, for now.

'Tommi

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Good ${greeting_time}, Alex!

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21 Jan 18 22:21, you wrote to me:

https://www.palemoon.org/

I use it on Windows system... Very pity, that there are no
assemblies under OS X =((((

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=18047 ?

Thank you so much! I looked at the beginning of January and found only an assembly two years ago.

Many thanks again!!!

With best regards, Alexandr.

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Hello Tommi!

22 Jan 2018 08:15, Tommi Koivula wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Then go back to Firefox 56.0.2 and don't let it upgrade.
I did that, for now.

emerge firefox

:)


Regards Benny

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Hello Tommi,

On Monday January 22 2018 08:15, you wrote to me:

Plus that Google Chrome no longer supports Win XP and my main
Fido machine still runs XP...

Then go back to Firefox 56.0.2 and don't let it upgrade.

I did that, for now.

My main system is still running 52.5.3. (ESR). It is my laptop running Win7 that got Firefox Quantum. I do not use that laptop very much, so I think I will not dump it right away. I will give it a chance. Maybe just maybe I will see it as an improvement. You never know.


Cheers, Michiel

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x) Monday Jan 22, 2018, 08:15. Tommi Koivula �� Michiel van der Vlist.

Google Chrome? IPvFoo still works like a charm.

Considering that Google's prima activity is hoerding data, I try to
stay away from them.
Plus that Google Chrome no longer supports Win XP and my main Fido
machine still runs XP...

Then go back to Firefox 56.0.2 and don't let it upgrade.
I did that, for now.

Bad idea, you will lose security updates this way. Use 52 ESR for now instead, it will receive updates by May 2018 at least.

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TK> Then go back to Firefox 56.0.2 and don't let it upgrade.
TK> I did that, for now.

Bad idea, you will lose security updates this way. Use 52 ESR for now instead, it will receive updates by May 2018 at least.

And now there's v58.. Just 'updated' to 52.6.0. ;)

'Tommi

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21 Jan 18 21:11:08, you wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

Google Chrome? IPvFoo still works like a charm.

Considering that Google's prima activity is hoerding data, I try to stay away from them.

Plus that Google Chrome no longer supports Win XP and my main Fido

machine

still runs XP...

Then go back to Firefox 56.0.2 and don't let it upgrade.

I did that, for now.

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi!

22 Jan 2018 08:15, Tommi Koivula wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Then go back to Firefox 56.0.2 and don't let it upgrade.

chrome stopped working on xp ? :)


Regards Benny

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