It is reachable now via 2a01:d0:5:4050:f1d0:2:463:877

bbs.ncc.org.ua AAAA record updated.

--- Neon BBS Line 2, 570-57-80, 20:30-06:30. [bbs.ncc.org.ua]
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Hello Alex,

On Friday January 19 2018 15:24, you wrote to All:

It is reachable now via 2a01:d0:5:4050:f1d0:2:463:877

bbs.ncc.org.ua AAAA record updated.

Great!

I have updated the list.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Alex.

19 Jan 18 15:24:52, you wrote to All:

It is reachable now via 2a01:d0:5:4050:f1d0:2:463:877

bbs.ncc.org.ua AAAA record updated.

Another ipv6-capable Radius. Nice. :)

=== Cut ===
21:00 [3788] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-96/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 -p -P 463/877 binkd.cfg
21:00 [3788] creating a poll for 2:463/877@fidonet (`d' flavour)
21:00 [3788] clientmgr started
21:00 [1228] call to 2:463/877@fidonet
21:00 [1228] trying 2a01:d0:5:4050:f1d0:2:463:877 [2a01:d0:5:4050:f1d0:2:4 21:00 [1228] connected
21:00 [1228] outgoing session with 2a01:d0:5:4050:f1d0:2:463:877:24554
21:00 [1228] OPT CRAM-MD5-c90481dc1fd9308142ce165d104b10d6
21:00 [1228] Remote requests MD mode
21:00 [1228] OPT PLZ CHT LST CRYPT
21:00 [1228] Remote requests CRYPT mode
21:00 [1228] SYS bbs.ncc.org.ua
21:00 [1228] ZYZ Alex Shuman
21:00 [1228] LOC Kiev, Ukraine
21:00 [1228] PHN bbs.ncc.org.ua
21:00 [1228] NDL IFC,IBN,ITN,V90C,V42B
21:00 [1228] TIME Fri, 19 Jan 2018 21:00:24 +0200
21:00 [1228] VER Radius/4.010/21.01.2005,13:56(Final-Release)/Win32 binkp/ 21:00 [1228] addr: 2:463/877@fidonet
21:00 [1228] addr: 11:463/177@NeonNet (n/a or busy)
21:00 [1228] done (to 2:463/877@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
21:00 [1228] session closed, quitting...
21:00 [3788] rc(1228)=0
21:00 [3788] the queue is empty, quitting...
=== Cut ===

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi,

On Friday January 19 2018 21:01, you wrote to Alex Shuman:

It is reachable now via 2a01:d0:5:4050:f1d0:2:463:877

bbs.ncc.org.ua AAAA record updated.

Another ipv6-capable Radius. Nice. :)

He is Incoming only, so I suspect he is using a 6 to 4 proxy.


Cheers, Michiel

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x) Friday Jan 19, 2018, 21:01. Tommi Koivula ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

It is reachable now via 2a01:d0:5:4050:f1d0:2:463:877
bbs.ncc.org.ua AAAA record updated.

Another ipv6-capable Radius. Nice. :)

Indeed. It uses port forwarding via "netsh int portproxy" though...

Listen on ipv6: Connect to ipv4:

Address Port Address Port
--------------- ---------- --------------- ----------
* 24554 10.10.5.2 24554
* 60179 10.10.5.2 60179
* 60177 10.10.5.2 60177

19-Jan-2018 21:00:24 Begin v4.010/21.01.2005,13:56(Final-Release)
19-Jan-2018 21:00:24 Running under: Windows NT 6.1 (build: 7601, Service Pack 1)
^ 19-Jan-2018 21:00:24 Connect From 10.10.5.2 #24554
19-Jan-2018 21:00:24 Establishing BinkP transfer protocol
19-Jan-2018 21:00:24 Using AKAs: 2:463/877@FidoNet 11:463/177@NeonNet
19-Jan-2018 21:00:24 M_NUL : OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
= 19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 Station : LEN/64
= 19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 Address : 2:221/10.9999
: 19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 SysOp : Tommi Koivula from ::1
: 19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 Number : 10.10.5.2
: 19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 Flags : IBN
: 19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 Mailer : binkd/1.1a-96/CYGWIN NT-6.1 binkp/1.1
= 19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 Time : Fri, 19 Jan 2018 21:00:26 +0200
19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 Non-password session
19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 Handshake time - 0 seconds
19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 Nothing for them
19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 RECE: End of batch
19-Jan-2018 21:00:25 SEND: End of batch
* 19-Jan-2018 21:00:26 Session completed successfully
19-Jan-2018 21:00:26 End

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x) Friday Jan 19, 2018, 20:27. Michiel van der Vlist ÄÄ Tommi Koivula.

It is reachable now via 2a01:d0:5:4050:f1d0:2:463:877
bbs.ncc.org.ua AAAA record updated.

Another ipv6-capable Radius. Nice. :)

MvdV> He is Incoming only, so I suspect he is using a 6 to 4 proxy.

Using Win7 internal portproxy on same machine because Radius does not have native IPv6 capability.

--- Neon BBS Line 2, 570-57-80, 20:30-06:30. [bbs.ncc.org.ua]
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Hi Alex.

19 Jan 18 23:05:42, you wrote to me:

x) Friday Jan 19, 2018, 21:01. Tommi Koivula ── Alex Shuman.

It is reachable now via 2a01:d0:5:4050:f1d0:2:463:877
bbs.ncc.org.ua AAAA record updated.

Another ipv6-capable Radius. Nice. :)

Indeed. It uses port forwarding via "netsh int portproxy" though...

Just like mine. ;)

Listen on ipv6: Connect to ipv4:

Address Port Address Port
--------------- ---------- --------------- ----------
* 24554 10.10.5.2 24554
* 60179 10.10.5.2 60179
* 60177 10.10.5.2 60177

But listening only one IPv6 address:

Listen on IPv6: Connect to IPv4:

Address Port Address Port
--------------- ---------- --------------- ---------- 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 23 192.168.1.9 23 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 60177 192.168.1.9 60177 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 60179 192.168.1.9 60179 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 24555 192.168.1.9 24555 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 119 127.0.0.1 119

The default binkp port is used by binkd.

'Tommi

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Hi Alex.

19 Jan 18 23:07:18, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

MvdV>> He is Incoming only, so I suspect he is using a 6 to 4 proxy.

Using Win7 internal portproxy on same machine because Radius does not have native IPv6 capability.

And outbound ipv6 from Radius is possible with ipv6 capable proxy, like privoxy or squid. :)

'Tommi

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Hello,

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 09:12:20 +0200, Tommi Koivula -> Alex Shuman wrote:

And outbound ipv6 from Radius is possible with ipv6 capable proxy, like privoxy or squid. :)

But why though? ;)

Regards,
Nick

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x) Saturday Jan 20, 2018, 09:00. Tommi Koivula ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 119 127.0.0.1 119

BTW, I have tried portproxy to 127.0.0.1 and it does not work. Worked only with actual ipv4 address, assigned to network card interface.

--- Neon BBS Line 2, 570-57-80, 20:30-06:30. [bbs.ncc.org.ua]
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x) Saturday Jan 20, 2018, 09:12. Tommi Koivula ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

MvdV>>> He is Incoming only, so I suspect he is using a 6 to 4 proxy.

Using Win7 internal portproxy on same machine because Radius does not
have native IPv6 capability.

And outbound ipv6 from Radius is possible with ipv6 capable proxy, like privoxy or squid. :)

How? Like portproxy, by adding each node manually with a port to forward?

--- Neon BBS Line 2, 570-57-80, 20:30-06:30. [bbs.ncc.org.ua]
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Alex Shuman wrote:

And outbound ipv6 from Radius is possible with ipv6 capable proxy,
like privoxy or squid. :)

How? Like portproxy, by adding each node manually with a port to forward?

It is little tricky.. You have to tell Radius to use proxy for every outbound call. Then you need to make sure that the proxy prefers ipv6 over ipv4. Then just tell Radius to poll by dns name, not ip address because it doesn't understand ipv6 addresses.

It is not worth the trouble, but if you cannot connect by ipv4, it can be done. :-) (There's an answer to Nick. ;))

'Tommi
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Alex Shuman wrote:

2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 119 127.0.0.1 119

BTW, I have tried portproxy to 127.0.0.1 and it does not work. Worked
only with actual ipv4 address, assigned to network card interface.

Oh? Well, please don't tell that to my Win2003server, because that one really works here. :)

tommi@rpi:~$ telnet 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 119
Trying 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6...
Connected to 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 Welcome to JamNNTPd/Cygwin32 1.3 20180119 (posting may be allowed.)
quit
205 Goodbye
Connection closed by foreign host.

'Tommi

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Hello Alex!

20 Jan 2018 15:59, Alex Shuman wrote to Tommi Koivula:

x) Saturday Jan 20, 2018, 09:00. Tommi Koivula -- Alex Shuman.

2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 119 127.0.0.1 119

BTW, I have tried portproxy to 127.0.0.1 and it does not work. Worked only with actual ipv4 address, assigned to network card interface.

in that case you are right on the same host to connect from outside, so that why loopback will not help you :)

loopback interface on linux stays local, eg you cant use it to connect to my addr here ip wize

you will need to dnat in iptables imho, dual stacked hosts have ::1 so this would work

if you have xinetd installed you can use a redirect listner


Regards Benny

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x) Saturday Jan 20, 2018, 19:09. Tommi Koivula ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 119 127.0.0.1 119

BTW, I have tried portproxy to 127.0.0.1 and it does not work. Worked
only with actual ipv4 address, assigned to network card interface.

Oh? Well, please don't tell that to my Win2003server, because that one really works here. :)

I guess it's just Win7 specific problem then...

--- Neon BBS Line 2, 570-57-80, 20:30-06:30. [bbs.ncc.org.ua]
* Origin: Neon_#2, Kiev, Ukraine (2:463/877)

Hello Alex,

On Friday January 19 2018 23:07, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> He is Incoming only, so I suspect he is using a 6 to 4 proxy.

Using Win7 internal portproxy on same machine because Radius does not
have native IPv6 capability.

Yes I remember now. You were the one that pointed out the netsh method to us.

Unfortunately it does not work stable on XP. When installed it works fo a couple of hours or a day or two and than it stops working. Rebooting the system brings it up for anothet couple of hours or days. But it never stays active for long.

I am now experimenting with relay6 to provide IPv6 access to my web server.

This is what I have presently runnig:

relay6 80 127.0.0.1 80 /b::: /c:32

From the log it seems some IPv6 is coming in, but it would be nice of someone would see if they can reach www.vlist.eu via IPv6


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Alex,

On Saturday January 20 2018 15:59, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 119 127.0.0.1 119

BTW, I have tried portproxy to 127.0.0.1 and it does not work. Worked
only with actual ipv4 address, assigned to network card interface.

The XP version accepts both 127.0.0.1 and "localhost". It also accepts symbolic names for the port. Like "http" and "ftp".

But... after a reboot it stops after some time. :(


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Michiel!

21 Jan 18 20:56, you wrote to Alex Shuman:

MvdV> From the log it seems some IPv6 is coming in, but it would be nice of
MvdV> someone would see if they can reach www.vlist.eu via IPv6

I think it works I get a ?6 (Did not upgrade firefox)

Kees

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x) Sunday Jan 21, 2018, 20:56. Michiel van der Vlist ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

MvdV> Yes I remember now. You were the one that pointed out the netsh method
MvdV> to us.
MvdV> Unfortunately it does not work stable on XP. When installed it works fo
MvdV> a couple of hours or a day or two and than it stops working. Rebooting
MvdV> the system brings it up for anothet couple of hours or days. But it
MvdV> never stays active for long.

Well, remembering my XP days, IPv6 stuff was in alpha/beta state there. And network stack was pretty buggy. Got "No buffer space available" after couple of days uptime and forced to reboot too.

Win7 will definitely work better with this.

MvdV> From the log it seems some IPv6 is coming in, but it would be nice
MvdV> of someone would see if they can reach www.vlist.eu via IPv6

It works.

I see you have native IPv6, too:

Tracing route to www.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5555]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2a01:d0:5:4050::1
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2a01:d0:5:ff04::1
3 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2a01:d0:0:1a::1
4 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2a01:d0:0:1c::7
5 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms ae3-299.RT.BMB.KIV.UA.retn.net [2a02:2d8:0:2801:232a::]
6 22 ms 22 ms 23 ms RT.IRX.VIE.AT.retn.net [2a02:2d8::57f5:e0af]
7 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms at-vie05b-ri3-xe-9-2-2-0.v6.aorta.net [2001:730:2801:6::d52e:ad21]
8 44 ms 45 ms 45 ms at-vie01b-rc1-lo0-0.v6.aorta.net [2001:730:2800::5474:80d1]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 44 ms 45 ms 45 ms 2001:b88::1
11 45 ms 45 ms 45 ms mnd-rc0001-cr101.core.as9143.net [2001:b88::159:74]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 53 ms 53 ms 53 ms ipv6.dynamic.ziggo.nl [2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5555]

but your ISP does not seem to assign proper reverse DNS for customers.

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Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Alex Shuman <=-

From the log it seems some IPv6 is coming in, but it would be nice of someone would see if they can reach www.vlist.eu via IPv6

Yep, comes up on IPv6 here. I saw the "You are connected via IPv6" banner here.


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Hello Alex,

On Sunday January 21 2018 22:46, you wrote to me:

Well, remembering my XP days, IPv6 stuff was in alpha/beta state
there. And network stack was pretty buggy. Got "No buffer space
available" after couple of days uptime and forced to reboot too.

Yes, the IPv6 implementation of XP is incomplete (no DHCP6) and it is a bit buggy. It works good enough to run a Fdionet IOv6 node though.

Win7 will definitely work better with this.

Perhaps it is time to say goodbye to XP?

MvdV>> From the log it seems some IPv6 is coming in, but it would be
MvdV>> nice of someone would see if they can reach www.vlist.eu via
MvdV>> IPv6

It works.

Thanks, The odd thing is that I can connect to my web server locally via IPv6, but the connection via IPv4 seems to be the prefered one. To connect via IPv6 I must force an IP6 connection by using a host name without an IPv4 address. Maybe the relay introduces a delay that makes IPv4 preferent on the otherwise fast local connection?

I see you have native IPv6, too:

Yes, since mid 2016.

ipv6.dynamic.ziggo.nl [2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5555]

but your ISP does not seem to assign proper reverse DNS for customers.

Indeed, that is a bit of a joke. Every IPv6 addres (2001:1c02::/32) of my provider backresolves to ipv6.dynamic.ziggo.nl.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Tony,

On Monday January 22 2018 09:46, you wrote to me:

From the log it seems some IPv6 is coming in, but it would be
nice of someone would see if they can reach www.vlist.eu via
IPv6

Yep, comes up on IPv6 here. I saw the "You are connected via IPv6"
banner here.

Ouch... That thingy is a bit misleading. It just means that you are connecting to http://v4v6.ipv6-test.com/imgtest.php via IPv6. So YOU have IPv6. It does not mean that you actually connect to my web server via IPv6.


Cheers, Michiel

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Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Ouch... That thingy is a bit misleading. It just means that you are connecting to http://v4v6.ipv6-test.com/imgtest.php via IPv6. So YOU
have IPv6. It does not mean that you actually connect to my web server via IPv6.

I see, well, without my add-ons working, it's hard to be certain.


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21 Jan 18 20:56:16, you wrote to Alex Shuman:

I am now experimenting with relay6 to provide IPv6 access to my web server.

This is what I have presently runnig:

relay6 80 127.0.0.1 80 /b::: /c:32

From the log it seems some IPv6 is coming in, but it would be nice of someone would see if they can reach www.vlist.eu via IPv6

=== Cut ===
tommi@one:/tmp$ wget -6 http://www.vlist.eu
--2018-01-22 08:07:04-- http://www.vlist.eu/
Resolving www.vlist.eu (www.vlist.eu)... 2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5555 Connecting to www.vlist.eu (www.vlist.eu)|2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5555|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6285 (6.1K) [text/html]
Saving to: 'index.html'

index.html 100%[=============>] 6.14K --.-KB/s in 0.05s

2018-01-22 08:07:05 (124 KB/s) - 'index.html' saved [6285/6285]

=== Cut ===

Cheers, Michiel

'Tommi

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21 Jan 18 21:18:06, you wrote to Alex Shuman:

2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 119 127.0.0.1 119

BTW, I have tried portproxy to 127.0.0.1 and it does not work. Worked
only with actual ipv4 address, assigned to network card interface.

The XP version accepts both 127.0.0.1 and "localhost". It also accepts symbolic names for the port. Like "http" and "ftp".

But... after a reboot it stops after some time. :(

Maybe it is the "microsoft feature" of not-a-server-os.

Have you tried to delete and add the portproxy setting every hour?

netsh int portproxy delete v6tov4 listenport=24554 ..
netsh int portproxy add v6tov4 listenport=24554 ..

'Tommi

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Hello Tony,

On Monday January 22 2018 15:39, you wrote to me:

Ouch... That thingy is a bit misleading. It just means that you
are connecting to http://v4v6.ipv6-test.com/imgtest.php via
IPv6. So YOU have IPv6. It does not mean that you actually
connect to my web server via IPv6.

I see, well, without my add-ons working, it's hard to be certain.

Indeed. That's why I want that add-on to work...


Cheers, Michiel

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Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Indeed. That's why I want that add-on to work...

Join the club. :)


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Hello Tommi,

On Monday January 22 2018 08:10, you wrote to me:

But... after a reboot it stops after some time. :(

Maybe it is the "microsoft feature" of not-a-server-os.

Yeah, that should be it. ;-)

Have you tried to delete and add the portproxy setting every hour?

netsh int portproxy delete v6tov4 listenport=24554 ..
netsh int portproxy add v6tov4 listenport=24554 ..

I haven't tried an automatic delete and add. I did try am manual delete and add several times though. No effect unitil after a reboot.

I may try your suggestion next week. I want to give the RELAY6 method at least a week, to see if that is stable....


Cheers, Michiel

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x) Sunday Jan 21, 2018, 23:54. Michiel van der Vlist ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

Win7 will definitely work better with this.

MvdV> Perhaps it is time to say goodbye to XP?

Indeed. Win7 is the best choice for now.

MvdV> Thanks, The odd thing is that I can connect to my web server locally via
MvdV> IPv6, but the connection via IPv4 seems to be the prefered one. To
MvdV> connect via IPv6 I must force an IP6 connection by using a host name
MvdV> without an IPv4 address. Maybe the relay introduces a delay that makes
MvdV> IPv4 preferent on the otherwise fast local connection?

No, it's the default "prefer IPv4 over IPv6" in your system or browser settings.

For Firefox based browsers, check the following about:config settings:

network.dns.disableIPv6 = false
network.http.fast-fallback-to-IPv4 = false (Pale Moon with works for me with true though)

In case of WinXP, it's forced default behavior of "prefer IPv4" and there is a way to fix it by modifying netsh prefixpolicy as shown here: https://sites.google.com/site/jrey42/Home/ipv6/prefixpolicies

ipv6.dynamic.ziggo.nl [2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5555]
but your ISP does not seem to assign proper reverse DNS for
customers.

MvdV> Indeed, that is a bit of a joke. Every IPv6 addres (2001:1c02::/32)
MvdV> of my provider backresolves to ipv6.dynamic.ziggo.nl.

Is it dynamic or static? And if it's static, why your ISP can't provide a proper backresolve by customer request?

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x) Monday Jan 22, 2018, 15:39. Tony Langdon ÄÄ Michiel van der Vlist.

Ouch... That thingy is a bit misleading. It just means that you are
connecting to http://v4v6.ipv6-test.com/imgtest.php via IPv6. So YOU
have IPv6. It does not mean that you actually connect to my web
server via IPv6.

I see, well, without my add-ons working, it's hard to be certain.

You can check it with netstat -an for example, if there's a connection from your ipv6 ip to his at port 80, it works.

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You can check it with netstat -an for example, if there's a connection from your ipv6 ip to his at port 80, it works.

True, that would work.


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Hello Alex,

On Tuesday January 23 2018 02:09, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Thanks, The odd thing is that I can connect to my web server
MvdV>> locally via IPv6, but the connection via IPv4 seems to be the
MvdV>> prefered one. To connect via IPv6 I must force an IP6
MvdV>> connection by using a host name without an IPv4 address. Maybe
MvdV>> the relay introduces a delay that makes IPv4 preferent on the
MvdV>> otherwise fast local connection?

No, it's the default "prefer IPv4 over IPv6" in your system or browser settings.

Odd. Because this only happens when I use the RELAY6 method when locally accessing my website. When I used the netsh method, I always connected via IPv6. And wneh connected other websites aroud the world, IPv6 is the preferred method.

For Firefox based browsers, check the following about:config settings:

network.dns.disableIPv6 = false

Check

network.http.fast-fallback-to-IPv4 = false (Pale Moon with works for
me with true though)

Set to true here...

In case of WinXP, it's forced default behavior of "prefer IPv4" and
there is a way to fix it by modifying netsh prefixpolicy as shown
here: https://sites.google.com/site/jrey42/Home/ipv6/prefixpolicies

Hmmm...

netsh

netsh>prefixpolicy
Der folgende Befehl wurde nicht gefunden: prefixpolicy.
netsh>

ipv6.dynamic.ziggo.nl [2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5555]
but your ISP does not seem to assign proper reverse DNS for
customers.

MvdV>> Indeed, that is a bit of a joke. Every IPv6 addres
MvdV>> (2001:1c02::/32) of my provider backresolves to
MvdV>> ipv6.dynamic.ziggo.nl.

Is it dynamic or static?

Dynamic.

And if it's static, why your ISP can't provide a proper backresolve
by customer request?

I don't know. They do not seem to know themselves either...

Cheers, Michiel

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x) Tuesday Jan 23, 2018, 13:48. Michiel van der Vlist ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

No, it's the default "prefer IPv4 over IPv6" in your system or browser
settings.

MvdV> Odd. Because this only happens when I use the RELAY6 method when locally
MvdV> accessing my website. When I used the netsh method, I always connected
MvdV> via IPv6. And wneh connected other websites aroud the world, IPv6 is the
MvdV> preferred method.

Then it's something with RELAY6 altering IPv6 default route priority.

MvdV> Hmmm...

Well, you can try this as cmd file (it's from that site, labeled as for WinXP)

echo Setting IPv6 loopback
netsh int ipv6 set prefixpolicy ::1/128 50 0 store=persistent
echo Setting Native IPv6
netsh int ipv6 set prefixpolicy ::/0 40 1 store=persistent
echo Setting IPv4
netsh int ipv6 set prefixpolicy ::ffff:0:0/96 35 4 store=persistent
echo Setting 6to4
netsh int ipv6 set prefixpolicy 2002::/16 30 2 store=persistent
echo Setting Teredo
netsh int ipv6 set prefixpolicy 2001::/32 5 5 store=persistent
echo Setting ULAs
netsh int ipv6 set prefixpolicy fc00::/7 3 13 store=persistent
echo Setting v4compat
netsh int ipv6 set prefixpolicy ::/96 1 3 store=persistent
echo Setting IPv6 site-local
netsh int ipv6 set prefixpolicy fec0::/10 1 11 store=persistent
echo Setting 6bone
netsh int ipv6 set prefixpolicy 3ffe::/16 1 12 store=persistent
rem Show results
netsh int ipv6 show prefixpolicy
pause

...or you can experiment with such settings by yourself (highest priority value is used as most preferred)

ipv6.dynamic.ziggo.nl [2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5555]
but your ISP does not seem to assign proper reverse DNS for
customers.

MvdV>>> Indeed, that is a bit of a joke. Every IPv6 addres
MvdV>>> (2001:1c02::/32) of my provider backresolves to
MvdV>>> ipv6.dynamic.ziggo.nl.

Is it dynamic or static?

MvdV> Dynamic.

So it is set automatically by ISP and changes every time you reconnect? Then how did you set it to f1d0-style?

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Hello Alex!

23 Jan 18 15:48, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

So it is set automatically by ISP and changes every time you reconnect? Then how did you set it to f1d0-style?

That is related to his private domain where he has access
For reverse resolution, your dns server must be pointed to by the ISP who
provides your prefix.

Kees

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Hello Alex,

On Tuesday January 23 2018 15:48, you wrote to me:

ipv6.dynamic.ziggo.nl [2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5555]
but your ISP does not seem to assign proper reverse DNS for
customers.

MvdV>>>> Indeed, that is a bit of a joke. Every IPv6 addres
MvdV>>>> (2001:1c02::/32) of my provider backresolves to
MvdV>>>> ipv6.dynamic.ziggo.nl.

Is it dynamic or static?

MvdV>> Dynamic.

So it is set automatically by ISP and changes every time you
reconnect? Then how did you set it to f1d0-style?

No, they call it dynamic, because they do not guarantee that the /56 prefix will never change. Since November 2017 it has only changed once. That was after a three hour unscheduled power down. Short power interuptions do not seem to cause a change.

Even so, all THEY set is the prefix. Within the /64, I can either use SLAAC or configure it manually. The latter I did for the ::f1d0:2:280:5555 part.


Cheers, Michiel

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x) Tuesday Jan 23, 2018, 16:14. Michiel van der Vlist ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

So it is set automatically by ISP and changes every time you
reconnect? Then how did you set it to f1d0-style?

MvdV> No, they call it dynamic, because they do not guarantee that the /56
MvdV> prefix will never change. Since November 2017 it has only changed once.
MvdV> That was after a three hour unscheduled power down. Short power
MvdV> interuptions do not seem to cause a change.
MvdV> Even so, all THEY set is the prefix. Within the /64, I can either
MvdV> use SLAAC or configure it manually. The latter I did for the
MvdV> ::f1d0:2:280:5555 part.

So they don't enforce specific IP, cool. I got my f1d0 IP the same way (ISP has radvd for SLAAC at backend).

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Hi Alex!

23 Jan 2018 02:09, from Alex Shuman -> Michiel van der Vlist:

MvdV>> Perhaps it is time to say goodbye to XP?

Indeed. Win7 is the best choice for now.

This very, very much depends on the side conditions of your evaluation.

I would very much refute your statement ;)
I would prefer most Linux flavors to Windows 7.
Some people would even prefer Mac OS X ;)

CU, Ricsi

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x) Wednesday Jan 24, 2018, 16:30. Richard Menedetter ÄÄ Alex Shuman.


MvdV>>> Perhaps it is time to say goodbye to XP?

Indeed. Win7 is the best choice for now.

This very, very much depends on the side conditions of your evaluation.
I would very much refute your statement ;)
I would prefer most Linux flavors to Windows 7.
Some people would even prefer Mac OS X ;)

Well, it's much easier to switch from XP to Win7 instead of some Linux or, especially, Mac OS X.

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On 2018-01-24 16:30, Richard Menedetter : Alex Shuman wrote:

 MvdV>> Perhaps it is time to say goodbye to XP?
 AS> Indeed. Win7 is the best choice for now.
This very, very much depends on the side conditions of your evaluation.

I would very much refute your statement ;)
I would prefer most Linux flavors to Windows 7.
Some people would even prefer Mac OS X ;)

and BSD to MacOSX...

The list is long...

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Hello Alex,

On Tuesday January 23 2018 15:48, you wrote to me:

No, it's the default "prefer IPv4 over IPv6" in your system or
browser settings.

MvdV>> Odd. Because this only happens when I use the RELAY6 method
MvdV>> when locally accessing my website. When I used the netsh
MvdV>> method, I always connected via IPv6. And wneh connected other
MvdV>> websites aroud the world, IPv6 is the preferred method.

Then it's something with RELAY6 altering IPv6 default route priority.

MvdV>> Hmmm...

It loooks like it is something peculiar to Firefox. Apparently Firefox remebers if a site ismore easley reacheable via IPv4 than via IPv6. It will eventually adjust when a site goes from IPv4 only to dual stack, but it takes a while.

So when I first start my web server and start relay6 some time later, Firefox acceses it via IPv4. For a while...

The solution is to start relay6 /before/ starting the web server. Then Firefox will see it as a dual stack web site and use IPv6 from the start...


Cheers, Michiel

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x) Saturday Feb 17, 2018, 18:35. Michiel van der Vlist ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

No, it's the default "prefer IPv4 over IPv6" in your system or
browser settings.

MvdV>>> Odd. Because this only happens when I use the RELAY6 method
MvdV>>> when locally accessing my website. When I used the netsh
MvdV>>> method, I always connected via IPv6. And wneh connected other
MvdV>>> websites aroud the world, IPv6 is the preferred method.

Then it's something with RELAY6 altering IPv6 default route priority.

MvdV>>> Hmmm...
MvdV> It loooks like it is something peculiar to Firefox. Apparently
MvdV> Firefox remebers if a site ismore easley reacheable via IPv4 than
MvdV> via IPv6. It will eventually adjust when a site goes from IPv4 only
MvdV> to dual stack, but it takes a while.

Well, if the site is not reachable via IPv6, FF indeed does a "quick fallback" to IPv4 and caches it.

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21 Jan 18 20:56:16, you wrote to Alex Shuman:

I am now experimenting with relay6 to provide IPv6 access to my web

server.

This is what I have presently runnig:

relay6 80 127.0.0.1 80 /b::: /c:32

From the log it seems some IPv6 is coming in, but it would be nice of someone would see if they can reach www.vlist.eu via IPv6

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tommi@one:/tmp$ wget -6 http://www.vlist.eu
--2018-01-22 08:07:04-- http://www.vlist.eu/
Resolving www.vlist.eu (www.vlist.eu)... 2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5555 Connecting to www.vlist.eu (www.vlist.eu)|2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5555|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6285 (6.1K) [text/html]
Saving to: 'index.html'

index.html 100%[=============>] 6.14K --.-KB/s in 0.05s

2018-01-22 08:07:05 (124 KB/s) - 'index.html' saved [6285/6285]

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Cheers, Michiel

'Tommi

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21 Jan 18 21:18:06, you wrote to Alex Shuman:

2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 119 127.0.0.1 119

BTW, I have tried portproxy to 127.0.0.1 and it does not work. Worked
only with actual ipv4 address, assigned to network card interface.

The XP version accepts both 127.0.0.1 and "localhost". It also accepts symbolic names for the port. Like "http" and "ftp".

But... after a reboot it stops after some time. :(

Maybe it is the "microsoft feature" of not-a-server-os.

Have you tried to delete and add the portproxy setting every hour?

netsh int portproxy delete v6tov4 listenport=24554 ..
netsh int portproxy add v6tov4 listenport=24554 ..

'Tommi

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