• Another one!

    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Mon Jan 8 13:39:04 2018
    Hello All,

    68 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native THEFIRST

    Egor, welcome to th Fidonet IPv6 club!



    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Egor Glukhov@2:5020/736 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Jan 8 16:12:16 2018
    Michiel,

    08 Jan 18 13:39, you wrote to All:

    68 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native THEFIRST

    Egor, welcome to th Fidonet IPv6 club!

    Thank you! :)

    Egor
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: kaman (2:5020/736)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Jan 8 16:20:00 2018
    Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

    08 Jan 2018 13:39:04, you wrote to All:

    MvdV> 68 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native THEFIRST
    MvdV> Egor, welcome to th Fidonet IPv6 club!

    Bwa-ha-ha... So how many new ${echotag}-capable nodes do we have after just a single message in R50.SYSOP.DRUNK? :-)


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-cmlxxvii-mmxlviii

    ... $_='print"\$_=\x27$_\x27;eval\n"';eval
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: http://openwall.com/Owl (2:5020/545)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Alexey Vissarionov on Mon Jan 8 14:37:57 2018
    Hello Alexey,

    On Monday January 08 2018 16:20, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> 68 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native THEFIRST
    MvdV>> Egor, welcome to th Fidonet IPv6 club!

    Bwa-ha-ha... So how many new ${echotag}-capable nodes do we have after just a single message in ...

    Four new ones this year and another one seems to be trying. I got a failed incoming from 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:5030:786.

    So maybe we will have yet another one soon.

    ... R50.SYSOP.DRUNK? :-)

    Oh, boy. I thought it was my article in Fidonews that did it. Another dream shattered. ;-)



    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Alexey Vissarionov on Mon Jan 8 15:09:52 2018
    Hello Alexey!

    08 Jan 18 16:20, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    Bwa-ha-ha... So how many new ${echotag}-capable nodes do we have after just a single message in R50.SYSOP.DRUNK? :-)

    Always present usefull messages to a popular forum. ;)

    Besides: "Drunks and children always speak the truth." ;)

    Michiel should have a look at what was said. Maybe he can use it to
    get some more action, where people are more fluent in English.

    Kees

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Kees van Eeten on Mon Jan 8 17:38:38 2018
    Good ${greeting_time}, Kees!

    08 Jan 2018 15:09:52, you wrote to me:

    Bwa-ha-ha... So how many new ${echotag}-capable nodes do we have
    after just a single message in R50.SYSOP.DRUNK? :-)
    Always present usefull messages to a popular forum. ;)

    Forum? What's that?

    Michiel should have a look at what was said. Maybe he can use it
    to get some more action, where people are more fluent in English.

    I've said "㪠⠪" there, and I seriously doubt that would be usable anywhere besides the echoarea where people are fluent mostly of beer and stronger beverages.


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
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    ... god@universe:~ # cvs up && make world
    --- /bin/vi
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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Alexey Vissarionov on Mon Jan 8 16:08:24 2018
    Hello Alexey!

    08 Jan 18 17:38, you wrote to me:

    Bwa-ha-ha... So how many new ${echotag}-capable nodes do we have
    after just a single message in R50.SYSOP.DRUNK? :-)
    Always present usefull messages to a popular forum. ;)

    Forum? What's that?

    Something to Romans had, but it wasn't a Pizza.
    So may place where people speek and the listeners donnet nessasarily listen.

    Michiel should have a look at what was said. Maybe he can use it
    to get some more action, where people are more fluent in English.

    I've said "нукатакбля" there, and I seriously doubt that would be usable anywhere besides the echoarea where people are fluent mostly of beer and stronger beverages.

    Well we have people here talking about beer. But as translations are
    apperrantly sanitized, I could not find any.

    I suppose the conversation was about Ipv6 and it was chracterised,
    what qualities those implementing Ipv6, have. ;)

    Kees

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Alexey Vissarionov on Mon Jan 8 18:20:28 2018

    08 Jan 18 17:38:38, you wrote to Kees van Eeten:

    Bwa-ha-ha... So how many new ${echotag}-capable nodes do we have
    after just a single message in R50.SYSOP.DRUNK? :-)
    Always present usefull messages to a popular forum. ;)

    Forum? What's that?

    https://goo.gl/maps/Vh6PRuUgeCC2

    A shopping hell in Helsinki! :)

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 (2:221/6)
  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Alexey Vissarionov on Mon Jan 8 17:26:28 2018
    Hello Alexey!

    08 Jan 2018 16:20, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    Bwa-ha-ha... So how many new ${echotag}-capable nodes do we have after just a single message in R50.SYSOP.DRUNK? :-)

    and how many have santa kustyme on now ? (sorry for danish word) :=)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/4.9.72-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (1:261/38.20)
  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Jan 8 20:54:44 2018
    Hello Tommi!

    08 Jan 2018 18:20, Tommi Koivula wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    https://goo.gl/maps/Vh6PRuUgeCC2
    A shopping hell in Helsinki! :)

    or copenhagen ? :)

    drunken swedes ...


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/4.9.72-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (1:261/38.20)
  • From Konstantin Kuzov@2:5019/40.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Jan 8 23:34:32 2018
    Konnichi wa, *Michiel-kun*! Aogu manako oyobi uketamawaru waga koe!
    Tomodachi _Michiel van der Vlist_ tsukuru airon _Alexey Vissarionov_
    Nichiji - /*08 18 14:37*/, Daizai - /*Another one!*/:

    MvdV> Four new ones this year and another one seems to be trying. I got a
    MvdV> failed incoming from 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:5030:786.
    MvdV> So maybe we will have yet another one soon.

    Nope, that's not another one.
    Try [2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:280:5555]:24554 for example. ^_^

    That's fido IPv6 relay for binkp and ifcico I made just for lulz.
    There are two IPv6 prefixes:
    - "f1d0 style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0::/80
    - "hex style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:fed0::/80

    Second one is useful for reaching nodes with node-numbers above 9999.
    Ports are always default no matter which specific node really uses:
    - binkp - 24554
    - ifcico - 60179

    Generation from daily nodelist on daily basis (on 04:00 UTC+03).

    Ganbatte, *Michiel*!

    [_N0SF3R@TU_]
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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Konstantin Kuzov on Mon Jan 8 22:50:36 2018
    Hi Konstantin.

    08 Jan 18 23:34:32, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    That's fido IPv6 relay for binkp and ifcico I made just for lulz.
    There are two IPv6 prefixes:
    - "f1d0 style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0::/80
    - "hex style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:fed0::/80

    Second one is useful for reaching nodes with node-numbers above 9999. Ports are always default no matter which specific node really uses:
    - binkp - 24554
    - ifcico - 60179

    Generation from daily nodelist on daily basis (on 04:00 UTC+03).

    No shit! This is nice! :)

    === Cut ===
    22:49 [4568] creating a poll for 2:221/360@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    22:49 [4568] clientmgr started
    + 22:49 [1128] call to 2:221/360@fidonet
    22:49 [1128] trying 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:221:360 [2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d
    22:49 [1128] connected
    + 22:49 [1128] outgoing session with 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:221:360:24554
    - 22:49 [1128] OPT CRAM-MD5-71a9bf6e54885782e67b5bf3274075ee
    + 22:49 [1128] Remote requests MD mode
    - 22:49 [1128] SYS RBB/2
    - 22:49 [1128] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
    - 22:49 [1128] LOC Lake Ylo, Finland
    - 22:49 [1128] NDL IBN,CM
    - 22:49 [1128] TIME Mon, 8 Jan 2018 22:49:29 +0200
    - 22:49 [1128] VER binkd/1.1a-96/OS2 binkp/1.1
    + 22:49 [1128] addr: 2:221/0@fidonet
    + 22:49 [1128] addr: 2:221/1@fidonet
    + 22:49 [1128] addr: 2:221/360@fidonet
    - 22:49 [1128] TRF 0 0
    + 22:49 [1128] Remote has 0b of mail and 0b of files for us
    - 22:49 [1128] OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
    + 22:49 [1128] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 22:49 [1128] Remote supports GZ mode
    + 22:49 [1128] Remote supports BZ2 mode
    + 22:49 [1128] done (to 2:221/360@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    22:49 [1128] session closed, quitting...
    22:49 [4568] rc(1128)=0
    22:49 [4568] the queue is empty, quitting...
    === Cut ===

    And the server end:

    === Cut ===
    22:49:29 [132] incoming from 5.2.76.43 (46028)
    === Cut ===

    :-D

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6 (2:221/6)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Konstantin Kuzov on Tue Jan 9 00:55:43 2018
    Hello Konstantin,

    On Monday January 08 2018 23:34, you wrote to me:

    Nope, that's not another one.
    Try [2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:280:5555]:24554 for example. ^_^

    09 Jan 00:19:58 [1788] creating a poll for 2:280/5555@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    09 Jan 00:19:58 [1788] clientmgr started
    + 09 Jan 00:19:58 [2104] call to 2:280/5555@fidonet
    09 Jan 00:19:58 [2104] trying 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:280:5555 [2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:280:5555]...
    09 Jan 00:19:58 [2104] connected
    + 09 Jan 00:19:58 [2104] outgoing session with 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:280:5555:24554
    - 09 Jan 00:19:58 [2104] OPT CRAM-MD5-513fb5a4638a23301e351ae682ecd0ee
    + 09 Jan 00:19:58 [2104] Remote requests MD mode
    - 09 Jan 00:19:58 [2104] SYS Blijf Tonijn
    - 09 Jan 00:19:59 [2104] ZYZ Michiel van der Vlist
    - 09 Jan 00:19:59 [2104] LOC Driebergen, NL
    - 09 Jan 00:19:59 [2104] NDL CM,MO,IBN:fido.vlist.eu,RPK,NPK,ENC,NC,PING,IPv6
    - 09 Jan 00:19:59 [2104] TIME Tue, 9 Jan 2018 00:19:58 +0100
    - 09 Jan 00:19:59 [2104] VER binkd/1.1a-95/Win32 binkp/1.1
    + 09 Jan 00:19:59 [2104] addr: 2:280/5555@fidonet
    + 09 Jan 00:19:59 [2104] addr: 2:28/0@fidonet
    + 09 Jan 00:19:59 [2104] addr: 2:2/20@fidonet
    - 09 Jan 00:20:00 [2104] OPT EXTCMD CRYPT GZ
    + 09 Jan 00:20:00 [2104] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 09 Jan 00:20:00 [2104] Remote requests CRYPT mode
    + 09 Jan 00:20:00 [2104] Remote supports GZ mode
    + 09 Jan 00:20:00 [2104] pwd protected session (MD5)
    - 09 Jan 00:20:00 [2104] session in CRYPT mode
    + 09 Jan 00:20:00 [2104] done (to 2:280/5555@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    09 Jan 00:20:00 [2104] session closed, quitting...
    09 Jan 00:20:00 [1788] the queue is empty, quitting...

    And from the receiver:

    - 09 Jan 00:19:58 [2028] incoming from 5.2.76.43 (44300)
    + 09 Jan 00:19:58 [3828] Error in getnameinfo(): Der angeforderte Name
    ist gltig und wurde in der Datenbank gefunden. Er
    verfgt jedoch nicht ber die richtigen zugeordneten
    Daten, die ausgewertet werden sollten. (11004)
    + 09 Jan 00:19:58 [3828] incoming session with 5.2.76.43
    - 09 Jan 00:19:58 [3828] SYS Blijf Tonijn IPv6 only
    - 09 Jan 00:19:58 [3828] ZYZ Michiel van der Vlist
    - 09 Jan 00:19:58 [3828] LOC Driebergen, NL
    - 09 Jan 00:19:58 [3828] NDL CM,MO,
    IBN:[2001:1c02:1100:d700:f1d0:2:280:5556],ENC,IPv6,INO4
    - 09 Jan 00:19:58 [3828] TIME Tue, 9 Jan 2018 00:19:58 +0100
    - 09 Jan 00:19:58 [3828] VER binkd/1.1a-95/Win32 binkp/1.1
    + 09 Jan 00:19:58 [3828] addr: 2:280/5556@fidonet
    - 09 Jan 00:19:59 [3828] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ
    + 09 Jan 00:19:59 [3828] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
    + 09 Jan 00:19:59 [3828] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 09 Jan 00:19:59 [3828] Remote requests CRYPT mode
    + 09 Jan 00:19:59 [3828] Remote supports GZ mode
    + 09 Jan 00:20:00 [3828] pwd protected session (MD5)
    - 09 Jan 00:20:00 [3828] session in CRYPT mode
    + 09 Jan 00:20:00 [3828] done (from 2:280/5556@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    09 Jan 00:20:00 [3828] session closed, quitting...

    That's fido IPv6 relay for binkp and ifcico I made just for lulz.

    So this is an IPV6 to IPv4 gateway. IPv6 only nodes can use this to connect to IPv4 only nodes. Wow!.

    I do not know what problem this is a solution for, AFAIK there are no truly IPv6 only connections yet. Every end user on the internet still has outgoing IPv4 capability and probably will have that for a very long time to come. But this certainly is an interesting experiment. Tell us more... Write a Fidonews article...

    There are two IPv6 prefixes:
    - "f1d0 style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0::/80
    - "hex style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:fed0::/80

    I may test that hex option later.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Konstantin Kuzov on Tue Jan 9 10:21:10 2018
    Good ${greeting_time}, Konstantin!

    08 Jan 2018 23:34:32, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> So maybe we will have yet another one soon.
    Nope, that's not another one.
    Try [2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:280:5555]:24554 for example. ^_^
    That's fido IPv6 relay for binkp and ifcico I made just for lulz.

    Very stupid and harmful.


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-cmlxxvii-mmxlviii

    ... GPG: 8832FE9FA791F7968AC96E4E909DAC45EF3B1FA8 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: http://openwall.com/Owl (2:5020/545)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Alexey Vissarionov on Tue Jan 9 10:12:40 2018
    Hi Alexey.

    09 Jan 18 10:21:10, you wrote to Konstantin Kuzov:

    Try [2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:280:5555]:24554 for example. ^_^
    That's fido IPv6 relay for binkp and ifcico I made just for lulz.

    Very stupid and harmful.

    That's pretty much the same thing which I'm using here for my os/2 system: xinetd in linux forwards ipv6 tcp port 24554 to lan 192.168.1.2:24554.

    But when the whole nodelist is relayed... It sure can be abused!

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: IPv6 Point at [2001:470:1f15:cb0:2:221:1:1] (2:221/1.1)
  • From Alexandr Kruglikov@2:5053/58.1 to Konstantin Kuzov on Tue Jan 9 12:36:42 2018
    Good ${greeting_time}, Konstantin!

    08 Jan 18 23:34, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    That's fido IPv6 relay for binkp and ifcico I made just for lulz.
    There are two IPv6 prefixes:
    - "f1d0 style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0::/80
    - "hex style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:fed0::/80

    What kind of interesting prefix is /80? On which OS does this work? =\

    With best regards, Alexandr.

    --- "OS X/binkd/hpt-1.9-cur/GoldEd+-1.1.5-b20170303" ---
    * Origin: 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case, Hmmm... (2:5053/58.1)
  • From Konstantin Kuzov@2:5019/40 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Jan 9 11:48:24 2018
    Konnichi wa, *Michiel-kun*! Aogu manako oyobi uketamawaru waga koe!
    Tomodachi _Michiel van der Vlist_ tsukuru airon _Konstantin Kuzov_
    Nichiji - /*09 18 00:55*/, Daizai - /*Another one!*/:

    That's fido IPv6 relay for binkp and ifcico I made just for lulz.
    MvdV> So this is an IPV6 to IPv4 gateway.

    Actually, it isn't strictly IPv6 to IPv4. IPv6 to IPv6 also works. And if destination IPv4 addresses are unresponsive IPv6 addresses also will be tried.
    So it is potentially can be used to reach IPv6-only nodes if direct routing isn't working for some reason.

    MvdV> IPv6 only nodes can use this to connect to IPv4 only nodes. Wow!.

    Or IPv4 only nodes could use such services to advertise IPv6 reachability when don't want to mess with IPv6 tunnels or their retro-OS doesn't support IPv6 at all.
    Or just want a shiny f1d0-style address but can't have one...

    There are could be numerious hypotetical reasons for such services to exist.

    MvdV> I do not know what problem this is a solution for, AFAIK there are
    MvdV> no truly IPv6 only connections yet. Every end user on the internet
    MvdV> still has outgoing IPv4 capability and probably will have that for a
    MvdV> very long time to come. But this certainly is an interesting
    MvdV> experiment. Tell us more... Write a Fidonews article...

    As I have already said that experiment was just for fun.
    I've tested how recent linux kernels handle thousands of address aliases on interfaces in memory constrained environment.
    I hadn't intended and still don't intent to provide such service for anyone to use in real life. As it's prone to abuse and centralization.
    But as my address was noticed and mistaken as potential new IPv6 fido member I clarified that it's not. ^_^

    There are two IPv6 prefixes:
    - "f1d0 style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0::/80
    - "hex style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:fed0::/80
    MvdV> I may test that hex option later.

    Feel free while it lasts ^_^

    Ganbatte, *Michiel*!

    [_N0SF3R@TU_]
    ... GoldED-NSF/LNX 1.1.5-b20140107 (Linux 4.10.12-gentoo iF6M42)
    --- #[Kaori Sekken: Master.NoSFeRaTU[@]Gmail.com] [Kumi Nyaa]#
    * Origin: Ojisan, oriru mottekuru suna oyobi korosu sagaru kabe (2:5019/40)
  • From Konstantin Kuzov@2:5019/40 to Alexandr Kruglikov on Tue Jan 9 11:54:58 2018
    Konnichi wa, *Alexandr-kun*! Aogu manako oyobi uketamawaru waga koe!
    Tomodachi _Alexandr Kruglikov_ tsukuru airon _Konstantin Kuzov_
    Nichiji - /*09 18 12:36*/, Daizai - /*Re: Another one!*/:

    That's fido IPv6 relay for binkp and ifcico I made just for lulz.
    There are two IPv6 prefixes:
    - "f1d0 style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0::/80
    - "hex style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:fed0::/80

    What kind of interesting prefix is /80? On which OS does this work? =\

    Welcome to magical world of IPv6. ^_^

    Ganbatte, *Alexandr*!

    [_N0SF3R@TU_]
    ... GoldED-NSF/LNX 1.1.5-b20140107 (Linux 4.10.12-gentoo iF6M42)
    --- #[Kaori Sekken: Master.NoSFeRaTU[@]Gmail.com] [Kumi Nyaa]#
    * Origin: Ojisan, oriru mottekuru suna oyobi korosu sagaru kabe (2:5019/40)
  • From Alexandr Kruglikov@2:5053/58.1 to Konstantin Kuzov on Tue Jan 9 13:09:50 2018
    Good ${greeting_time}, Konstantin!

    *** Answering a msg posted in area CarbonArea ( ).

    09 Jan 18 11:54, you wrote to me:

    That's fido IPv6 relay for binkp and ifcico I made just for
    lulz. There are two IPv6 prefixes:
    - "f1d0 style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0::/80
    - "hex style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:fed0::/80
    What kind of interesting prefix is /80? On which OS does this
    work? =\
    Welcome to magical world of IPv6. ^_^

    - Holmes, and where did you get that he is a programmer?
    - It's elementary! First, he thought about the answer for a long time. Secondly, his answer was absolutely accurate. Thirdly - absolutely useless!

    With best regards, Alexandr.

    --- "OS X/binkd/hpt-1.9-cur/GoldEd+-1.1.5-b20170303" ---
    * Origin: 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case, Hmmm... (2:5053/58.1)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Jan 9 14:39:50 2018
    Hello Tommi,

    On Tuesday January 09 2018 10:12, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    Very stupid and harmful.

    That's pretty much the same thing which I'm using here for my os/2
    system: xinetd in linux forwards ipv6 tcp port 24554 to lan 192.168.1.2:24554.

    But when the whole nodelist is relayed... It sure can be abused!

    It could be a SPOF. Or even worse: a SPOM. (Single Point Of Manipulation) But it is still the decision of the individual sysop to use or not use such a facility...


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Konstantin Kuzov on Tue Jan 9 14:45:28 2018
    Hello Konstantin,

    On Tuesday January 09 2018 11:48, you wrote to me:

    That's fido IPv6 relay for binkp and ifcico I made just for
    lulz.
    MvdV>> So this is an IPV6 to IPv4 gateway.

    Actually, it isn't strictly IPv6 to IPv4. IPv6 to IPv6 also works.

    Yes, that works too. I could reach IPv6 only node 280/5006 via 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:280:5006

    And if destination IPv4 addresses are unresponsive IPv6 addresses also will be tried.

    That does not work. If I diasble listen 0.0.0.0 on my main machine I get "connection refused" when trying to connect to it via your gateway.

    So it is potentially can be used to reach IPv6-only
    nodes if direct routing isn't working for some reason.

    Hmmm...

    MvdV>> IPv6 only nodes can use this to connect to IPv4 only nodes.
    MvdV>> Wow!.

    Or IPv4 only nodes could use such services to advertise IPv6
    reachability when don't want to mess with IPv6 tunnels

    "Messing" with a tunnel was an interesting and lerningful experience. And a tunnel is much more flexible, it not only offers BINKP and IFCICO. It can be used for ALL services.

    or their retro-OS doesn't support IPv6 at all.

    Dump it! ;-)

    Or just want a shiny f1d0-style address but can't have one...

    Minor cosmetic issue...

    There are could be numerious hypotetical reasons for such services to exist.

    Perhaps...

    But I think that with the coming of DS_Lite the reverse would be more useful. But harder to implement...

    But then I think I'd prefer to use the services of an agent independant of Fidonet. Such as http://www.feste-ip.net/ They are still a SPOF, but most likely have no interest in acting as a SPOM.

    MvdV>> I do not know what problem this is a solution for, AFAIK there
    MvdV>> are no truly IPv6 only connections yet. Every end user on the
    MvdV>> internet still has outgoing IPv4 capability and probably will
    MvdV>> have that for a very long time to come. But this certainly is
    MvdV>> an interesting experiment. Tell us more... Write a Fidonews
    MvdV>> article...

    As I have already said that experiment was just for fun.

    OK. ;-)

    I've tested how recent linux kernels handle thousands of address
    aliases on interfaces in memory constrained environment. I hadn't
    intended and still don't intent to provide such service for anyone to
    use in real life. As it's prone to abuse and centralization.

    Indeed. Experience unfortunately shows that in Fidonet centralisation may lead to manipulation. :-(

    But as my address was noticed and mistaken as potential new IPv6 fido member I clarified that it's not. ^_^

    Good that this is cleared up.

    There are two IPv6 prefixes:
    - "f1d0 style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0::/80
    - "hex style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:fed0::/80

    MvdV>> I may test that hex option later.

    The hex option works.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Alexey Vissarionov on Wed Jan 24 15:50:04 2018
    Hi Alexey!

    08 Jan 2018 16:20, from Alexey Vissarionov -> Michiel van der Vlist:

    Bwa-ha-ha... So how many new ${echotag}-capable nodes do we have after just a single message in R50.SYSOP.DRUNK? :-)

    ;)))

    I like the echo tag ;)

    Cheers!

    CU, Ricsi

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