• Paying for access to the copper line

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Joe Delahaye on Sat May 7 18:03:58 2016
    Not to mention, I no longer use that phone company for my internet <G>, but
    have to use their lines to get it.

    Ahhh! That sounds familiar. I too had to pay a "network fee" (around EUR10 per month) for the old copper lines here for some eight years.

    Now (some months ago) finally they were forced to abandon that...





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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Björn Felten on Sat May 7 18:51:22 2016
    Re: Paying for access to the copper line
    By: Bj”rn Felten to Joe Delahaye on Sat May 07 2016 18:03:58

    Not to mention, I no longer use that phone company for my internet
    <G>, but have to use their lines to get it.

    Ahhh! That sounds familiar. I too had to pay a "network fee" (around
    EUR10 per month) for the old copper lines here for some eight years.

    The big telcos here control all the DSL, and the big cable companies the cables of course. It matters not which ISP you use, you have to go over one of their lines. They reserve the right to limit bandwidth if they think the ISP is usurping their preferred stuff, even though they are not allowed to legally do so.


    Now (some months ago) finally they were forced to abandon that...

    Hopefully this country will catch up. We have some of the most expensive phone, internet and wireless plans in the world.
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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Richard Menedetter on Sun May 8 10:01:10 2016
    Good ${greeting_time}, Richard!

    07 May 2016 10:59:40, you wrote to me:

    I would get one of this 25 USD delivered routers:
    http://www.dx.com/p/416150
    to get a bit of practice in the configuration.
    They don't worth that money, as they have only 16 Mb of memory.
    Plenty for a test device ;)

    Alas, no: you'd have to choose between Web-interface and SSH access.

    I have a Hame A2 power brick/mini router combo.

    Yes, I also have such devices and really like them, as they have almost everything I need for home automation. Also, if you manage to brick it, resurrecting is as simple as reflashing the 25Q32 EEPROM.

    It has only 8 MB flash and 32 MB RAM.

    Obviously, 32 Mb RAM is much better than 16.

    I installed R00ter on it (3g/4g LTE oriented OpenWRT fork) and it
    works nicely, and there is space left on the flash.

    The flash is needed only for the kernel, as everything else may reside on USB storage


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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Markus Reschke on Sun May 8 10:21:02 2016
    Good ${greeting_time}, Markus!

    07 May 2016 12:17:34, you wrote to me:

    It comes with a modified version of OpenWRT, but it is a good
    exercise to install generic OpenWRT on it, and then play a bit
    with it.
    I strongly recommend using 32 Mb devices for that purpose.
    Or just take a PC with Linux, like me :-)
    If the router has an USB host port you can add an USB stick for
    more flash memory.

    1. s/memory/storage/
    2. That's RAM most critical, not the storage.

    OpenWrt provides different methods to use the extra flash.
    Basically you can move the system to the USB stick (preferably
    overlay) or mount the USB stick somewhere in the file system.
    It's a linux ;)

    Captain Obvious to the rescue? :-)


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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sun May 8 11:36:48 2016
    Hi Alexey!

    08 May 2016 10:01, from Alexey Vissarionov -> Richard Menedetter:

    I would get one of this 25 USD delivered routers:
    http://www.dx.com/p/416150
    to get a bit of practice in the configuration.
    They don't worth that money, as they have only 16 Mb of memory.
    Plenty for a test device ;)
    Alas, no: you'd have to choose between Web-interface and SSH access.

    ???

    The GL.Inet comes with 16 MB flash and 64 MB RAM.
    Plenty to have a webGUI (LUCI) and SSH access.

    My Hame A2 with 8 MB flash and 32 MB RAM has also both, and still plenty of free flash and RAM.

    I also have a Hame A1 with 4MB flash and 16 MB RAM.
    THAT is tight, and webGUI would be painful.

    It has only 8 MB flash and 32 MB RAM.
    Obviously, 32 Mb RAM is much better than 16.

    The GL.Inet has 16 MB _FLASH_ amd 64 MB RAM!
    Maybe there comes the confusion.

    16 MB RAM would be indeed tight!
    But that is not the case.

    CU, Ricsi

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