• IPv6 here?

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to All on Mon Apr 18 09:25:02 2016
    Can someone please check if you get an IPv6 connection with 2:203/0 on port 24555.

    It shouldn't work, but I get some strange info in the log file indicating otherwise...






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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Mon Apr 18 09:28:56 2016
    Hello Bj”rn,

    On Monday April 18 2016 09:25, you wrote to All:

    Can someone please check if you get an IPv6 connection with 2:203/0 on port 24555.

    It shouldn't work, but I get some strange info in the log file indicating otherwise...

    It works:


    + 09:28 [3048] call to 2:203/0@fidonet
    09:28 [3048] trying eljaco.se [2001:16d8:ff00:306::2]:24555...
    09:28 [3048] connected
    + 09:28 [3048] outgoing session with eljaco.se:24555 [2001:16d8:ff00:306::2]
    - 09:28 [3048] OPT CRAM-MD5-5fca852ff15d0c58e9247d14b19726ee
    + 09:28 [3048] Remote requests MD mode
    - 09:28 [3048] SYS Felten's Testbench
    - 09:28 [3048] ZYZ Bj”rn Felten
    - 09:28 [3048] LOC S„ve, Sweden
    - 09:28 [3048] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    - 09:28 [3048] TIME Mon, 18 Apr 2016 09:28:34 +0200
    - 09:28 [3048] VER binkd/1.1a-65/Win32 binkp/1.1
    + 09:28 [3048] addr: 2:203/0@fidonet
    + 09:28 [3048] addr: 2:20/0@fidonet
    + 09:28 [3048] addr: 2:2/2@fidonet
    - 09:28 [3048] TRF 0 0
    + 09:28 [3048] Remote has 0b of mail and 0b of files for us
    - 09:28 [3048] OPT EXTCMD CRYPT
    + 09:28 [3048] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 09:28 [3048] Remote requests CRYPT mode
    + 09:28 [3048] pwd protected session (MD5)
    - 09:28 [3048] session in CRYPT mode
    + 09:28 [3048] done (to 2:203/0@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    09:28 [3048] session closed, quitting...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Apr 18 09:39:23 2016
    It shouldn't work, but I get some strange info in the log file
    indicating otherwise...

    MvdV> It works:

    Very strange. Well then I guess it's time to say good by to Argus and Relay6 and become 100% binkd...

    Thanks -- Tommi has confirmed it too.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Mon Apr 18 10:27:56 2016
    Hello Bj”rn,

    On Monday April 18 2016 09:39, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> It works:

    Very strange. Well then I guess it's time to say good by to Argus
    and Relay6 and become 100% binkd...

    What took you so long? ;-)


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Apr 18 10:49:09 2016
    MvdV> What took you so long? ;-)

    LOL! Yeah, really?

    The first experiments with binkd in "full" mode was discouraging as it appeared like IPv6 didn't work on incoming calls.

    Now, all of a sudden it works. I have no idea why it didn't work at first -- and also no idea why it works now. It really shouldn't, but it does. Via the built-in router program on an XP installation from 1998. Yeah, well, with SP3 of course, but just the same...




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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Björn Felten on Mon Apr 18 20:12:00 2016
    Bj”rn Felten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

    Now, all of a sudden it works. I have no idea why it didn't work at first -- and also no idea why it works now. It really shouldn't, but it does. Via the built-in router program on an XP installation from 1998. Yeah, well, with SP3 of course, but just the same...

    BinkD "just worked" on IPv6 for me. :)


    ... Programming is like sex; one mistake and you support it.
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Mon Apr 18 12:04:02 2016
    Hello Bj”rn,

    On Monday April 18 2016 10:49, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> What took you so long? ;-)

    LOL! Yeah, really?

    The first experiments with binkd in "full" mode was discouraging as
    it appeared like IPv6 didn't work on incoming calls.

    Odd. I had to go through a learning curve when converting my system from InterMail/Irex to Binkd, but that had to do with the conversion from AMA to BSO. IPv6 (both incoming and outgoing) worked from day one on Binkd.

    Now, all of a sudden it works. I have no idea why it didn't work at first -- and also no idea why it works now.

    That is unsatisfactory. If you do not know what the problem was, it may come back any time. :(

    It really shouldn't, but it does. Via the built-in router program on
    an XP installation from 1998. Yeah, well, with SP3 of course, but just
    the same...

    I tried to use WinXp SP3 as a router for IPv6 but I quickly abandonned that plan. My AYIYA SixXs tunnel ends on the Fidonet machine and only servers that machine.

    BTW, when I converted to Binkd and dropped InterMail and Irex, I also dropped POTS. Intermail had been listening to the modem all the time, but there were no incoming calls for over three years, so I figured I could do without.

    If you pension Argus, will you pension POTS too?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 19 09:21:05 2016
    MvdV> If you pension Argus, will you pension POTS too?

    Nah, just like me he'll still perform a few tasks. E.g. taking care of telnet calls to my BBS. So the POTS modem will be there a few years more.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 19 09:59:32 2016
    MvdV> If you pension Argus, will you pension POTS too?

    I think that the last successful mailer call via POTS was this one. 8-)

    14-Nov-2014 12:18:14 RING
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:14 Answering call
    ^ 14-Nov-2014 12:18:34 CONNECT 9600 V42bis
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:35 EMSI data receive
    = 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 Station : fido.vlist.eu
    = 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 Address : 2:280/5555.4
    : 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 SysOp : Michiel van der Vlist from Driebergen
    : 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 Number : -Unpublished-
    : 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 Flags : 9600,V34,XX,IBN,ICM,MO,MN,TCc,RPK,NPK,NC,ENC
    : 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 Mailer : InterMail/2.50.ML/6A-001-010487
    : 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 EMSI Addon : IMREV [ 020]
    : 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 EMSI Addon : TZUTC [0100]
    = 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 Time : 14-Nov-2014 12:18:30
    * 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 Remote proposes password "xxxxxxxxx"
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 Non-password session
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 Nothing for them
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 EMSI data send
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:37 Handshake time - 3 seconds
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:37 Establishing ZedZap (Zmodem/8K) transfer protocol
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:39 RECE: End of batch
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:42 Sending dummy 'EB9D4976.PKT' (60b)
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:44 Sent 'EB9D4976.PKT'
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:45 SEND: End of batch
    * 14-Nov-2014 12:18:46 Session completed successfully

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 19 10:55:07 2016
    Hello Bj”rn,

    On Tuesday April 19 2016 09:21, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> If you pension Argus, will you pension POTS too?

    Nah, just like me he'll still perform a few tasks. E.g. taking care
    of telnet calls to my BBS. So the POTS modem will be there a few years more.

    Eh? The POTS modem takes care of telnet calls to the BBS? I have lost you.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 19 11:25:05 2016
    Hello Bj”rn,

    On Tuesday April 19 2016 09:59, you wrote to me:

    I think that the last successful mailer call via POTS was this one.
    8-)

    14-Nov-2014 12:18:14 RING
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:14 Answering call
    ^ 14-Nov-2014 12:18:34 CONNECT 9600 V42bis
    14-Nov-2014 12:18:35 EMSI data receive
    = 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 Station : fido.vlist.eu
    = 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 Address : 2:280/5555.4
    : 14-Nov-2014 12:18:36 SysOp : Michiel van der Vlist from

    That may have been the last outgoing POTS call from this location.

    280/5555.4 was the old Win98 InterMail/Irex system that I used as my main Fido node until I switched to binkd.

    I renumbered it to point 4 and kept it around for testing purposes for a while. I vaguely recall making a few outgoing POTS connection just to hear the modem sound, before finally pulling the plug on it.

    IIRC the last incoming call was in 2011.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 19 12:29:39 2016
    MvdV> Eh? The POTS modem takes care of telnet calls to the BBS? I have lost you.

    No, Argus does. So if I need it running for telnet I can as well let it keep on listening to the POTS line.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 19 14:13:24 2016
    Hello Bj”rn,

    On Tuesday April 19 2016 12:29, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> Eh? The POTS modem takes care of telnet calls to the BBS? I
    MvdV>> have lost you.

    No, Argus does.

    You need Argus to do that? The BBS does not have the option of listening and answer the call all by itself?

    Having a mailer listen on the line and drop down to the BBS was based on the idea that one can have only one connection per physical line. Which of course is true for POTS. But with TCP/IP one can have many connections on e single "line". One could have the BBS listen on port 23 and the mailer listen on an alternate port. Or just forget about the mailer. EMSI was optimised for use over POTS. Binkp is optimised for use over TCP/IP.

    I note that eljaco.se answers IPv6 on port 23. Very nice! netsh portproxy?

    So if I need it running for telnet I can as well
    let it keep on listening to the POTS line.

    As long as you still have a POTS line and a modem. Here POTS lines are not free. Do you actualy get any incoming calls on POTS?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 19 14:53:44 2016
    MvdV> You need Argus to do that? The BBS does not have the option of listening
    MvdV> and answer the call all by itself?

    LOL! A BBS program from the early 1990s, barely Y2K updated but nothing more? You've gotta be kidding? :)

    MvdV> I note that eljaco.se answers IPv6 on port 23. Very nice! netsh portproxy?

    No, Argus plus Netfoss, but I think the IPv6 is thanks to Relay6.

    Anyway, it took a helluva time to get it working, so I'm not inclined to shut it down now. Why don't you try it out if you get a few moments to spare? A blast from the past for sure...

    MvdV> As long as you still have a POTS line and a modem. Here POTS lines are
    MvdV> not free. Do you actualy get any incoming calls on POTS?

    All calls on my land line number from 1974 go via VoIP. On my account I have two numbers, the second one is set to my BBS number from 1989.

    One is the regular one, the other is the modem connected one. I pay SEK69 (EUR7:50) per month -- calling costs included -- for the entire package whether I use both numbers or only one, so why give one of them up?






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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 19 15:07:10 2016
    Hello Michiel!

    19 Apr 16 14:13, you wrote to Björn Felten:

    MvdV> As long as you still have a POTS line and a modem. Here POTS lines are
    MvdV> not free. Do you actualy get any incoming calls on POTS?

    Ofcourse he does, his net has POTS only nodes just as net 2:280 has one.

    Kees

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Tue Apr 19 15:41:43 2016
    Ofcourse he does, his net has POTS only nodes just as net 2:280 has one.

    It has? Nodes? As in plural? The only one I can see is my own 203/208, and that still can accept a POTS call AFAIK.

    Have you tried it out? It would be nice to see another successful POTS call in the log file after the 17 months since Michiel's call... 8-)

    Anyone?




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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 19 16:31:08 2016
    MvdV> If you pension Argus, will you pension POTS too?

    Besides that, how long do you think it'll take before all the connecting nodes here are using the latest nodelist information? This can be really interesting.

    Yeah, you probably know the answer to that?

    So if not for that reason, I'll be stuck with the old Argus 24554 port end for quite some time now, don't you think? 8-)





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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 19 21:50:44 2016
    Hello Bj”rn,

    On Tuesday April 19 2016 14:53, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> You need Argus to do that? The BBS does not have the option of
    MvdV>> listening and answer the call all by itself?

    LOL! A BBS program from the early 1990s, barely Y2K updated but
    nothing more? You've gotta be kidding? :)

    Why not? The BBS preceeds Fidonet and Fidonet mailers. Before Fidonet mailers always listened and answered the phone all by themselves. hey still did in the early days of Fido. There was a BBS and there was a mailer. Only one of them run at the time. The mailer during ZMH, the BBS the rest of the time.

    It was only with the coming of JoHo's Frontdoor that one could do both at the same time. rontdoor answered the line and passed the connection to the mailer when it was determined to be a human caller. But I very much doubt that anyone actually removed the abilty to answer the line all by itself from a BBS.

    MvdV>> I note that eljaco.se answers IPv6 on port 23. Very nice! netsh
    MvdV>> portproxy?

    No, Argus plus Netfoss, but I think the IPv6 is thanks to Relay6.

    Ah, now that you mention it, I want to try this Relay6. The netsh method does not work all that well on my system. Where can I get Relay6? Can I download it somewhere? Can you drop it in my inbound?

    Anyway, it took a helluva time to get it working, so I'm not
    inclined to shut it down now. Why don't you try it out if you get a
    few moments to spare? A blast from the past for sure...

    Me trying it out? I don't think so. My philosophy is "goodbye is goodbye". BBSs, modem over POTS, I have left it all behind. No turning back for me.

    MvdV>> As long as you still have a POTS line and a modem. Here POTS
    MvdV>> lines are not free. Do you actualy get any incoming calls on
    MvdV>> POTS?

    All calls on my land line number from 1974 go via VoIP. On my
    account I have two numbers, the second one is set to my BBS number
    from 1989.

    OK... I too have too numbers. But I prefer to have them both available for voice.

    One is the regular one, the other is the modem connected one. I pay SEK69 (EUR7:50) per month -- calling costs included -- for the entire package whether I use both numbers or only one,

    The price sound very reasonable.

    so why give one of them up?

    To decomplicate your system by dropping things you no longer use. When I converted my system from AMA to BSO, I took the opportunity to lean it down and only take along what I really needed. So I dropped POTS, I dropped InterMail, I dropped Irex, I dropped O/T-Track and some more stuff from the previous century.

    Never regretted it.

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 19 22:33:30 2016
    Hello Bj”rn,

    On Tuesday April 19 2016 16:31, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> If you pension Argus, will you pension POTS too?

    Besides that, how long do you think it'll take before all the connecting nodes here are using the latest nodelist information? This
    can be really interesting.

    I know that many systems - mine included - do not directly use the nodelist any more like FrontDoor and its clones did. And so people are afraid to change their connection information.

    Yeah, you probably know the answer to that?

    My experience is that the fear is unfounded. People that for some reason are forced to change their connect info usually have 95% of there links restored within 48 hours.

    You yourself had to move from felten.yi.org to eljaco.se. That was inconvenient, but it did not casue anty serious problems did it?

    So if not for that reason, I'll be stuck with the old Argus 24554
    port end for quite some time now, don't you think? 8-)

    No, I do not think so. What is stopping you from letting binkd listen on port 24554 and forget Argus. Or Tedious or whatever you call it?

    What happens if I start dropping mail for you on port 24555 instead of port 24554?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 19 22:49:20 2016
    MvdV> What happens if I start dropping mail for you on port 24555 instead of
    MvdV> port 24554?

    Well, since both ports will accept a binkp connection, you'll be just fine anyway so please go right ahead. If you use the latest nodelist you'll most likely do it anyway.

    As for your relay6 question I think I got it from here:

    https://sourceforge.net/projects/relay6/

    And it was only thanks to Tommi that I eventually got it working, so don't ask me, ask him. The docs aren't as good as the Tommi advice was to me. <3

    I think that you can find his tips and my conclusions in this echo, but you probably have to search a few years back.




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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 19 23:03:17 2016
    MvdV> You yourself had to move from felten.yi.org to eljaco.se. That was
    MvdV> inconvenient, but it did not cause any serious problems did it?

    Didn't actually had to, but preferred to.

    And absolutely no problems. But then again felten.yi.org worked just a day or two after the problems were discovered and now again does so since then. So now you can use that URL again if you want to.

    But I prefer to rely on my own DNS, so therefore I'll keep the eljaco.se URL, that I manage myself.

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Bj÷rn Felten on Tue Apr 19 19:47:10 2016
    Hello Björn!

    19 Apr 16 15:41, you wrote to me:


    Ofcourse he does, his net has POTS only nodes just as net 2:280 has
    one.

    It has? Nodes? As in plural? The only one I can see is my own 203/208, and that still can accept a POTS call AFAIK.

    Have you tried it out? It would be nice to see another successful POTS call in the log file after the 17 months since Michiel's call... 8-)

    Anyone?

    Apr 19 19:31:27 local ifcico3[2441]: calling 2:203/0@fidonet (West Net, phone 46-31-960447)
    Apr 19 19:31:28 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: chat got "OK", continue
    Apr 19 19:32:10 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: chat got "CONNECT", continue
    Apr 19 19:32:11 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: Intro: " 9600/V42BIS"
    Apr 19 19:32:11 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: start outbound EMSI session
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote address: 2:2/2
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote address: 2:203/0@fidonet
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote address: 2:203/208
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote password: xxxxxxxxxxx
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: unrecognized EMSI proto/option code: "HFR"
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote uses: Tedious [7FF] version 3.211/0
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote system: West Swedish Net Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote location: Gothenburg
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote operator: Bj<F6>rn Felten
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote phone: +46-31-960447
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote baud: 9600
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote flags: MO,CM
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote time: Apr 19 19:32:12
    Apr 19 19:32:13 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: remote tag: "XDATETIME" value: "[Tue, 19 Apr 2016 17:32:12 +0200]"
    Apr 19 19:32:23 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: call to 2:203/0@fidonet successful (rc=0)
    Apr 19 19:32:23 local ifcico3.ttyS0[2441]: 1 of 1 calls, maxrc=0


    It seems to work, after I installed the password.
    But it is not worth the trouble. The time it takes to activate the modem exceeds the full session time I have, when I connect using Binkp.

    Kees

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Wed Apr 20 00:05:12 2016
    It seems to work, after I installed the password.

    WOW! Thanks a million Kees!

    But it is not worth the trouble.

    Of course it isn't! But if you only have POTS that's all you can use.

    The time it takes to activate the modem
    exceeds the full session time I have, when I connect using Binkp.

    Yes indeed. But the entire world is not so happy that they have internet connection the way we have. Some of them even have dial-up connections.

    19-Apr-2016 19:31:55 RING
    19-Apr-2016 19:31:55 Answering call
    ^ 19-Apr-2016 19:32:10 CONNECT 9600 V42bis
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 EMSI data receive
    = 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Station : == Double Dutch ==
    = 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Address : 2:280/5003 2:280/0 77:8500/2
    : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 SysOp : Kees van.Eeten from Heerhugowaard, The Netherlands
    : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Number : 31-72-5723988
    : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Flags : 33600,CM,XA,MO,V32B,V42B,X75,IBN,IFC,U,ENC : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Mailer : ifcico/2.14-tx8.10/Mon Dec 29 16:41:39 2014 : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 EMSI Addon : TZUTC [+0200]
    = 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Time : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:11
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Password-protected session (auth=plain)
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Nothing for them
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 EMSI data send
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:13 Handshake time - 3 seconds
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:13 Establishing Hydra transfer protocol
    [ 19-Apr-2016 19:32:15 Hyd: Other's AppInfo="ifcico,2.14-tx8.10"
    [ 19-Apr-2016 19:32:15 Hyd: Other's HydraRev=01-Dec-1992, flags: C32
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:15 SEND: End of batch
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:16 RECE: End of batch
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:17 Hydra transfer protocol complete
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:18 SEND: End of batch
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:19 RECE: End of batch
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:20 Hydra transfer protocol complete
    * 19-Apr-2016 19:32:22 Session completed successfully



    I just love the Hydra thing there, well done ifcico... 8-)



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Wed Apr 20 00:23:36 2016
    19-Apr-2016 19:31:55 RING
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:22 Session completed successfully

    27 seconds wasn't all that bad for a POTS call, was it? I've seen much worse in the POTS era where we had far better modems on much better lines than my present VoIP line.

    Can someone please give my POTS line another try and see if you can do even better than Kees?






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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Wed Apr 20 00:27:35 2016
    Sorry Mr. Moderator, I just realized that this was not the proper echo.

    Well, unless someone can somehow manage to make an IPv6 POTS call to 2:203/0 of course.... 8-)


    Bj”rn Felten -> Bj”rn Felten skrev 2016-04-20 00:23:
    19-Apr-2016 19:31:55 RING
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:22 Session completed successfully

    27 seconds wasn't all that bad for a POTS call, was it? I've seen much worse in the POTS era where we had far better modems on much better
    lines than my present VoIP line.

    Can someone please give my POTS line another try and see if you can do even better than Kees?






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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Bj÷rn Felten on Wed Apr 20 00:42:48 2016
    Hello Björn!

    20 Apr 16 00:05, you wrote to me:

    Of course it isn't! But if you only have POTS that's all you can use.

    Could be. I used GPRS at Jacobselv, I am not sure if the was POST there :)

    The time it takes to activate the modem
    exceeds the full session time I have, when I connect using Binkp.

    Yes indeed. But the entire world is not so happy that they have internet connection the way we have. Some of them even have dial-up connections.

    19-Apr-2016 19:31:55 RING
    19-Apr-2016 19:31:55 Answering call
    ^ 19-Apr-2016 19:32:10 CONNECT 9600 V42bis
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 EMSI data receive
    = 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Station : == Double Dutch ==
    = 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Address : 2:280/5003 2:280/0 77:8500/2
    : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 SysOp : Kees van.Eeten from Heerhugowaard, The Netherlands
    : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Number : 31-72-5723988
    : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Flags : 33600,CM,XA,MO,V32B,V42B,X75,IBN,IFC,U,ENC
    : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Mailer : ifcico/2.14-tx8.10/Mon Dec 29 16:41:39 2014
    : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 EMSI Addon : TZUTC [+0200]
    = 19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Time : 19-Apr-2016 19:32:11
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Password-protected session (auth=plain)
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 Nothing for them
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:12 EMSI data send
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:13 Handshake time - 3 seconds
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:13 Establishing Hydra transfer protocol
    [ 19-Apr-2016 19:32:15 Hyd: Other's AppInfo="ifcico,2.14-tx8.10"
    [ 19-Apr-2016 19:32:15 Hyd: Other's HydraRev=01-Dec-1992, flags: C32
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:15 SEND: End of batch
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:16 RECE: End of batch
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:17 Hydra transfer protocol complete
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:18 SEND: End of batch
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:19 RECE: End of batch
    19-Apr-2016 19:32:20 Hydra transfer protocol complete
    * 19-Apr-2016 19:32:22 Session completed successfully



    I just love the Hydra thing there,

    Yes Arjen Lentz was a weird guy, but a very creative deceloper.

    well done ifcico... 8-)

    It has served me well for over 16 years. The last couple of years I had an
    issue with the programs. I node using Frontdoor and some virtual modem could
    not exchange files. The derivative mbcico modified by Michiel Broek of
    MBSE fame, worked perfectly. I did not manage to single out the difference
    that made mbcico work.

    Now the node has switched to something supporting Binkp and I am back to
    just running Binkd/ifcico. There are some other issues witfh ifcico, but they
    donot really bother me. And ofcourse ipv6 is missing.

    Kees

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Wed Apr 20 01:59:06 2016
    And ofcourse ipv6 is missing.

    Ouch! How can you live with that...? 8-)

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Wed Apr 20 02:15:37 2016
    I just love the Hydra thing there,

    Yes Arjen Lentz was a weird guy, but a very creative deceloper.

    Come to think of it, surely Arjen wasn't the only Hydra developer? I know for sure that JoHo (of FrontDoor) was involved in some way -- and maybe even Mats Wallin too?

    After all, wasn't FrontDoor the first mailer to support the Hydra -- the first ever truly duplex file conversation protocol ever?

    Anyway, as a programmer that has written many programs for the Psion WorkAbout using the Hydra protocol I can only say that I'm truly impressed by the works of Arjen if he was really the only "inventor".







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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Kees van Eeten on Tue Apr 19 19:52:05 2016
    Hello Kees!

    Wednesday April 20 2016 00:42, Kees van Eeten wrote to Björn Felten:

    It has served me well for over 16 years. The last couple of years I
    had an issue with the programs. I node using Frontdoor and some
    virtual modem could not exchange files. The derivative mbcico modified
    by Michiel Broek of MBSE fame, worked perfectly. I did not manage tosingle out the difference that made mbcico work.

    One of these days I need to grab a copy of the ifcico source code and see about figuring that out. While I'm at it I can probably add in CRC mode support and the NR mode fixes I'm working on with mbcico now.

    Now the node has switched to something supporting Binkp and I am back
    to just running Binkd/ifcico. There are some other issues witfh
    ifcico, but they donot really bother me. And ofcourse ipv6 is missing.

    IPv6 is another feature that Michiel Broek added to mbcico. In fact, MBSE's support for IPv6 is the main reason I took the time to figure out how to make IPv6 work, first using a tunnel, and then native IPv6 support once my ISP enabled it.

    Andrew

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    * Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * V.Everything! * 860/503-8857 (1:320/119)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Andrew Leary on Wed Apr 20 02:35:26 2016
    IPv6 is another feature that Michiel Broek added to mbcico. In fact, MBSE's support for IPv6 is the main reason I took the time to figure out how to make IPv6 work, first using a tunnel, and then native IPv6
    support once my ISP enabled it.

    I truly envy you. If only I still had the audacity to follow up on projects like that, like I did 20 years ago. :(

    I tried to make Argus IPv6 capable, but gave up. And Radius was such a mess I didn't even want to touch it.

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Andrew Leary on Wed Apr 20 18:12:22 2016
    Hello Andrew!

    19 Apr 16 19:52, you wrote to me:

    One of these days I need to grab a copy of the ifcico source code and see about figuring that out. While I'm at it I can probably add in CRC mode support and the NR mode fixes I'm working on with mbcico now.

    Are you talking about ifcico or qico?

    IPv6 is another feature that Michiel Broek added to mbcico. In fact, MBSE's support for IPv6 is the main reason I took the time to figure out how to make IPv6 work, first using a tunnel, and then native IPv6 support once my ISP enabled it.

    As incoming IPv6 is mainly served bij the inet daemon, I can probably handle
    incoming calls on ifcico. There may be minor problems in the logging part,
    where the may be reverse resolution ob the ip address.

    For implementing IPv6 on outgoing session, mbcico as well as the IPv6
    patches for qico, by Andre Gruenenberg, may give a lead.

    On the other hand plenty of exaples can be found on how to convert a
    IPv4 application to IPv6.

    I never researched a segfault error I get when using flags in ifcico. It may
    be caused by the code not being 64 bit safe. I think the same happend when
    I tried qico on a 64 bit system.

    It is all listed on my round tuit, together with many other idea's.

    As I mentioned in another message I used ifcico as my main mailer for
    POTS, X75 and IPv4, before Binkd. I stopped supporting X75 when Eicon changed
    their interface on ther 4port serverboards. No nodes connected to X75 anyway.

    I can probably get it going when there is a need. With a lot of tinkering,
    the software (modem) on the Eicon board can support almost anything that one
    can send over ISDN.

    Kees

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Bj÷rn Felten on Wed Apr 20 17:47:52 2016
    Hello Björn!

    20 Apr 16 02:15, you wrote to me:

    Come to think of it, surely Arjen wasn't the only Hydra developer? I know for sure that JoHo (of FrontDoor) was involved in some way -- and maybe even Mats Wallin too?

    Sometimes it is dificult to point to one person. Often it is the synergy of
    a few, that lead to somthing better

    /*
    * The HYDRA protocol was designed by
    * Arjen G. Lentz, LENTZ SOFTWARE-DEVELOPMENT and
    * Joaquim H. Homrighausen
    * COPYRIGHT (C) 1991-1993; ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
    */

    Well this clears it all. ;)

    After all, wasn't FrontDoor the first mailer to support the Hydra
    --
    the first ever truly duplex file conversation protocol ever?

    At yhe time I used Dutchie and Henk Wevers was quick to include Hydra and
    ofcourse Xenia by Arjen himself supported the protocol.

    Anyway, as a programmer that has written many programs for the
    Psion
    WorkAbout using the Hydra protocol I can only say that I'm truly impressed by the works of Arjen if he was really the only "inventor".

    In my mind an Inventor develops something out of the Blue. What is normally
    called an invention is usually an evolutions on available technology.
    I would probably call xmodem by Ward Christensen an invention although it
    may verywell be an improovement on cuucp. Zmodem allowed larger blocks and
    maybe sliding windows. Hydra added simultanous send and receive of files.

    Somewhere in between is ZX/RX as found in Unix and the additions that are
    specific to Kermit.

    I am now in real need if IPv6 for ifcico, there are Hundreds of nodes that
    want to use IFC and ITN over IPv6, it would give a boost to Fidonet :)))))

    The only connects I get are from script kiddies using port knocking software.

    Kees

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Kees van Eeten on Wed Apr 20 20:01:06 2016

    I am now in real need if IPv6 for ifcico, there are Hundreds of nodes that
    want to use IFC and ITN over IPv6, it would give a boost to Fidonet :)))))

    ITN mailer waiting for your hydra session at
    [2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:0]

    :)

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Kees van Eeten on Wed Apr 20 19:50:10 2016
    Hello Kees!

    Apr 20 17:47 2016, Kees van Eeten wrote to Björn Felten:

    I am now in real need if IPv6 for ifcico, there are Hundreds of
    nodes that want to use IFC and ITN over IPv6, it would give a boost
    to Fidonet :)))))

    On the socket side the changes should be quite simple, but the configuration stuff might need some effort. If you like, I could you give you the source of a sample network daemon supporting IPv4 and IPv6 (even interface scopes). I've written that one a few years ago.

    ciao,
    Markus

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Apr 20 19:20:56 2016
    Hello Tommi!

    20 Apr 16 20:01, you wrote to me:

    ITN mailer waiting for your hydra session at [2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:0]

    :)

    I can probably say the same for
    [2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5003]

    But I cannot do a outgoing sessions using IPv6.


    Kees

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Markus Reschke on Wed Apr 20 20:13:36 2016
    Hello Markus!

    20 Apr 16 19:50, you wrote to me:

    I am now in real need if IPv6 for ifcico, there are Hundreds of
    nodes that want to use IFC and ITN over IPv6, it would give a boost
    to Fidonet :)))))

    On the socket side the changes should be quite simple, but the configuration stuff might need some effort. If you like, I could you give you the source of a sample network daemon supporting IPv4 and IPv6 (even interface scopes). I've written that one a few years ago.

    Thanks for the offer, I found similar examples a few years back when I was
    curious what changes would be reaquired.

    I also have the patches, that Andre Grueneberg applied to qico-0.57.
    Unlike the developers of Binkd, those maintaining qico, did not include
    those patches in their developmet tree. A missed opportunity.

    For testing purposes I can make a setup with qico-057.1xe-ipv6 or MBSE.
    The latter I already have available on a RaspberryPi.

    Kees

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Apr 20 23:40:42 2016
    Hello Tommi!

    20 Apr 16 20:01, you wrote to me:


    I am now in real need if IPv6 for ifcico, there are Hundreds of nodes
    that
    want to use IFC and ITN over IPv6, it would give a boost to Fidonet
    :)))))

    ITN mailer waiting for your hydra session at [2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:0]

    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: options: Call Hold PUA WaZOO EMSI Freqs Zmo
    dem ZedZap Janus Hydra Tcp Txy
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: incoming TELNET/TCP connection from 91.155.
    100.12
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: start inbound EMSI session
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote address: 2:221/0@fidonet
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote address: 2:221/1@fidonet
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote address: 2:221/360@fidonet
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote address: 2:221/361@fidonet
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote password:
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote uses: Xenia/2 Mailer [fe] versio
    n 1.98.06+/399USBJ14
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote tag: "XENREG" value: "[Tommi Koivula]"
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote system: RBB #3
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote location: Lake Ylo
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote operator: Tommi Koivula
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote phone: 358-50-76152047
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote baud: 9600
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote flags: ICM,XX,V34,IVM
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote time: Apr 20 19:58:48
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: remote is a listed system
    Apr 20 18:58:47 local ifcico[12383]: options: Call Hold PUA WaZOO EMSI Freqs Zmodem ZedZap Janus Hydra Tcp Txy
    Apr 20 18:58:50 local ifcico[12383]: 1 of 1 calls, maxrc=0

    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: options: Call Hold PUA WaZOO EMSI Freqs Zmodem ZedZap Janus Hydra Tcp Txy
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: incoming IFC/TCP connection from 91.155.97.33
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: start inbound EMSI session
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: remote address: 2:221/6
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: remote password:
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: unrecognized EMSI proto/option code: "HFR" Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: remote uses: Taurus [15FF] version 5.114.2013.19/Summer/Win32
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: remote system: COW, TCP/IP 1
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: remote location: Lake Ylo, Finland
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: remote operator: Tommi Koivula
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: remote phone: cow.mine.nu
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: remote baud: 0
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: remote time: Apr 20 20:04:07
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: remote tag: "XDATETIME" value: "[Wed, 20 Apr 2016 17:04:07 +0300]"
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: remote is a listed system
    Apr 20 19:04:06 local ifcico[13454]: options: Call Hold PUA WaZOO EMSI Freqs Zmodem ZedZap Janus Hydra Tcp Txy
    Apr 20 19:04:09 local ifcico[13454]: 1 of 1 calls, maxrc=0


    Kees

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Kees van Eeten on Thu Apr 21 08:56:06 2016
    20 Apr 16 19:20, you wrote to me:

    ITN mailer waiting for your hydra session at
    [2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:0]

    :)

    I can probably say the same for
    [2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5003]

    No telnet connection. :(

    But I cannot do a outgoing sessions using IPv6.

    I just made outgoing ipv6 telnet connection with Taurus (argus clone) via privoxy to my Xenia/2. :)

    But it was not very convenient, because Taurus wants to resolve first and it does not accept ipv6 addresses. I needed to set up a dns name which resolves AAAA only.

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: p1.f1.n221.z2.dyn.binkp.net (2:221/1.1)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Tommi Koivula on Thu Apr 21 11:26:58 2016
    Hello Tommi!

    21 Apr 16 08:56, you wrote to me:

    I can probably say the same for
    [2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5003]

    No telnet connection. :(

    No, port 23 is certainly not available.
    60177 and 60179 should be reachable, but there could be a firewall issue.

    But I cannot do a outgoing sessions using IPv6.

    I just made outgoing ipv6 telnet connection with Taurus (argus clone) via privoxy to my Xenia/2. :)

    But it was not very convenient, because Taurus wants to resolve first and it does not accept ipv6 addresses. I needed to set up a dns name which resolves AAAA only.

    Sound intricate, I will have a look myself, one of these day, but don't hold
    your breath.

    Thanks for trying.

    Kees

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Kees van Eeten on Thu Apr 21 11:24:02 2016
    Hello Kees!

    20 Apr 16 17:47, you wrote to Björn Felten:

    At yhe time I used Dutchie and Henk Wevers was quick to include Hydra
    and ofcourse Xenia by Arjen himself supported the protocol.

    It was added to BinkleyTerm as well, in addition to Janus, which was Binkley's bidirectional transfer protocol.

    I am now in real need if IPv6 for ifcico, there are Hundreds of nodes that want to use IFC and ITN over IPv6, it would give a boost to
    Fidonet :)))))

    Contact me via NetMail. MBSE's mbcico was originally based on ifcico, so backporting the IPv6 changes shouldn't be that difficult.

    The only connects I get are from script kiddies using port knocking software.

    I think most of us get our share of those.

    Andrew

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160322
    * Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Andrew Leary on Thu Apr 21 18:45:00 2016
    The only connects I get are from script kiddies using port knocking
    software.

    I think most of us get our share of those.

    LOL! Tell me about it. More than half of the incoming connections here are from #23 script kiddies. For a few months I even disabled #23 here, but then again, that meant that I could no longer accept telnet calls to my BBS so now it's enabled again.

    If only I could understand what those #23 calls are supposed to accomplish...








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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Björn Felten on Fri Apr 22 05:43:16 2016
    On 22/04/2016 2:45 AM, 2:203/2 wrote:
    The only connects I get are from script kiddies using port knocking
    software.

    I think most of us get our share of those.

    LOL! Tell me about it. More than half of the incoming connections
    here are from #23 script kiddies. For a few months I even disabled #23 here, but then again, that meant that I could no longer accept telnet calls to my BBS so now it's enabled again.

    If only I could understand what those #23 calls are supposed to accomplish...

    From my logs it looks as though they think that they'll log in as root (after guessing the password). Don't they know that root login via telnet/ssh is disabled by default even in the older Linuxes.

    --

    Regards
    David

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Andrew Leary on Thu Apr 21 22:08:32 2016
    Hello Andrew!

    21 Apr 16 11:24, you wrote to me:

    It was added to BinkleyTerm as well, in addition to Janus, which was Binkley's bidirectional transfer protocol.

    Indeed, and Yes Janus, the God of the interfaces. ;)

    Contact me via NetMail. MBSE's mbcico was originally based on ifcico, so backporting the IPv6 changes shouldn't be that difficult.

    Thanks for the offer, but there is no hurry, I only use ifcico to connect
    to the last POST only node in our net and to show off two additional connectivity flags in the Nodelist.

    The only connects I get are from script kiddies using port knocking
    software.

    I think most of us get our share of those.

    It is al with good intentions, they want to make you aware of vulnerabilities
    in your system. ;)

    Kees

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Bj÷rn Felten on Thu Apr 21 22:31:42 2016
    Hello Björn!

    21 Apr 16 18:45, you wrote to Andrew Leary:

    The only connects I get are from script kiddies using port knocking
    software.

    I think most of us get our share of those.

    LOL! Tell me about it. More than half of the incoming connections here are from #23 script kiddies. For a few months I even disabled #23 here, but then again, that meant that I could no longer accept telnet calls to my BBS so now it's enabled again.

    If only I could understand what those #23 calls are supposed to accomplish...

    Getting access. But I get them on 60177 and 60179.

    The scrips to not know what to do with an EMSI response. ;)
    The problably gather statsistics on /etc/issue files. ;)

    Kees

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Thu Apr 21 23:05:12 2016
    From my logs it looks as though they think that they'll log in as root (after guessing the password).

    Since Argus always answer any #23 call, I can see what response I get to the usual "press <esc> twice.." message from yonderyears, but I rarely se a single character in the receiving window.

    Yes, sometimes, very rarely, I see some words popping up there, but they never make any sense. I guess that a fidonet greeting wasn't what they expected and not a response programmed into their script? 8-)







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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Thu Apr 21 23:07:10 2016
    The scripts do not know what to do with an EMSI response. ;)

    LOL! Yeah, that must be the reason they almost always get totally silent and than disconnect half or one minute later.






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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Kees van Eeten on Fri Apr 22 09:45:24 2016
    On 21.4.2016 12:26, Kees van Eeten - Tommi Koivula wrote:

    I can probably say the same for
    [2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5003]

    No telnet connection. :(

    No, port 23 is certainly not available.
    60177 and 60179 should be reachable, but there could be a firewall issue.

    Yes, firewall. ;)

    'Tommi

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