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  • Apple Will Require IPv6 Support For All iOS 9 Apps

    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Thu Jun 11 13:45:52 2015
    Hello All,

    Apple Will Require IPv6 Support For All iOS 9 Apps

    "Because IPv6 support is so critical to ensuring your applications work across the world for every customer, we are making it an AppStore submission requirement, starting with iOS 9." With those words, Sebastien Marineau, Apple's VP of Core OS, gave a huge boost to IPv6 developer support in Apple's WWDC Platform State Of The Union (SOTU) address yesterday.
    [..]

    http://www.internetsociet...pport-for-all-ios-9-apps/


    This could be the break through...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jun 11 14:06:56 2015
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2015-06-11 13:45:52, you wrote to All:

    MvdV> Apple Will Require IPv6 Support For All iOS 9 Apps

    MvdV> "Because IPv6 support is so critical to ensuring your applications work
    MvdV> across the world for every customer, we are making it an AppStore
    MvdV> submission requirement, starting with iOS 9." With those words, Sebastien
    MvdV> Marineau, Apple's VP of Core OS, gave a huge boost to IPv6 developer
    MvdV> support in Apple's WWDC Platform State Of The Union (SOTU) address
    MvdV> yesterday. [..]

    MvdV> http://www.internetsociet...pport-for-all-ios-9-apps/

    Is that the full link?

    MvdV> This could be the break through...

    Doubtfull. It doesn't mean they can only connect through IPv6, just that they are able to, if necessary. It doesn't change anything in provider "land".

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Jun 11 14:32:56 2015
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Thursday June 11 2015 14:06, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> http://www.internetsociet...pport-for-all-ios-9-apps/

    Is that the full link?

    Sorry, cut & paste error: http://tinyurl.com/njr9925

    MvdV>> This could be the break through...

    Doubtfull. It doesn't mean they can only connect through IPv6, just
    that they are able to, if necessary. It doesn't change anything in provider "land".

    Most mobile providers only issue IPv4 access behind a CGNAT. It will be a matter of time before app users will start noticing that the apps have reduced functionality when operated over an IPv4 only link. They will complain to the Apple app store. Who in turn will put pressure on the providers. Apple is a big player that can come up with a lot of push...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jun 11 15:46:04 2015
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2015-06-11 14:32:56, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>> This could be the break through...

    Doubtfull. It doesn't mean they can only connect through IPv6, just
    that they are able to, if necessary. It doesn't change anything in
    provider "land".

    MvdV> Most mobile providers only issue IPv4 access behind a CGNAT. It will
    MvdV> be a
    MvdV> matter of time before app users will start noticing that the apps
    MvdV> have
    MvdV> reduced functionality when operated over an IPv4 only link.

    What reduced functionality would that be? Only server applications will have problems behind a nat. Which end users use those on their phone? (besides fidonet nodes ;))

    MvdV> They will complain to the Apple app store. Who in turn will put
    MvdV> pressure on the providers. Apple is a big player that can come up
    MvdV> with a lot of push...

    If that happens it will help of course...

    Bye, Wilfred.


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Jun 11 17:34:26 2015
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Thursday June 11 2015 15:46, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> It will be a matter of time before app users will start noticing
    MvdV>> that the apps have reduced functionality when operated over an
    MvdV>> IPv4 only link.

    What reduced functionality would that be?

    Things that do not work well from behind a NAT? I do not know how thyat would apply to apps, but I can imagine that it will only be a matter of time until something like that pops up.

    Only server applications will have problems behind a nat.

    No, not just those. VOIP has problems and so have some games.

    Which end users use those on their phone? (besides fidonet nodes ;))

    I do not know of any that run servers, but some do VOIP and some play games.

    MvdV>> They will complain to the Apple app store. Who in turn will put
    MvdV>> pressure on the providers. Apple is a big player that can come
    MvdV>> up with a lot of push...

    If that happens it will help of course...

    I expect it will. Maybe not this year,. but in the foreseeable future...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jun 11 14:27:10 2015
    Hello Michiel!

    11 Jun 2015 13:45, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

    MvdV> This could be the break through...

    lets hope android follow


    Regards Benny

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jun 11 23:31:26 2015
    Hello Michiel!

    11 Jun 2015 14:32, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    MvdV> put pressure on the providers. Apple is a big player that can come
    MvdV> up with a lot of push...

    bah


    Regards Benny

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jun 11 23:33:22 2015
    Hello Michiel!

    11 Jun 2015 17:34, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    Only server applications will have problems behind a nat.
    MvdV> No, not just those. VOIP has problems and so have some games.

    bittorrent works well behind nat, so might ipv4 apps behind nat. even if running as server, could just be proxyed imho, socks5 ?, but yes it will be hard to implement it, so not much praktical in it


    Regards Benny

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Benny Pedersen on Fri Jun 12 16:41:57 2015
    bittorrent works well behind nat, so might ipv4 apps behind nat. even if running as server, could just be proxyed imho, socks5 ?, but yes it will be hard to implement it, so not much praktical in it

    I've always suspected that you have some very intelligent thoughts behind your postings. If only you could post them in Danish in one of the R20 echoes, where we could make proper sense of it all...

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Bj÷rn Felten on Fri Jun 12 16:51:34 2015
    Hello Björn!

    12 Jun 2015 16:41, Björn Felten wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    the R20 echoes, where we could make proper sense of it all...

    windows xp is damm old :=)

    good weekend to all who understand me


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Benny Pedersen on Fri Jun 12 17:06:18 2015
    windows xp is damm old :=)

    good weekend to all who understand me

    Methinks you'll be pretty alone celebrating that weekend.

    Windows XP is still the best OS that Microsoft has produced IMHO.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Jun 13 00:46:21 2015
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Thursday June 11 2015 15:46, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> They will complain to the Apple app store. Who in turn will put
    MvdV>> pressure on the providers. Apple is a big player that can come
    MvdV>> up with a lot of push...

    If that happens it will help of course...

    Here are some comments from Geoff Huston, chief scientist at APNIC, on the subject:

    http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2015-06/apple6.html


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Jun 13 12:49:08 2015
    Hello Michiel!

    13 Jun 2015 00:46, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    MvdV> http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2015-06/apple6.html

    what will happend with ios 7.x, flckr is already breaked :(

    update exists, but only for ios 8, so phones with ios 7 now get requsters to sell apple devices, wow if one can, its apple, i have not see a single app on android that require lollipop yet, come on apple


    Regards Benny

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