Hello All,

So I did some more digging around wherever I could to find the issue I was having.. So I took a look at my router configuration, which included some system logs and routing tables.

While all my 2001:* addresses were listed there, so were some 2605:* addresses. So I got a little excited and had to make sure. Disabled my tunnel completely, changed my router settings to "native", and sure enough.. I now have native IPv6!

I wonder if that had anything to do with the double addresses issue I had, since my router was set to use the prefix 2001:* could it be possible that since I had a native address coming in also, that my router may have tacked on the prefix and left the rest? I'm not sure.

But after getting rid of the tunnel and going with native, I now only have one v6 address listed.. so the issue may have fixed itself now.

Finally, after verifying that bbs.pharcyde.org (both ports 24554 and 24555) answer with a 2605:a000:140d:41cd prefix, please change both of my listings to Native please, and my ISP is Time Warner Cable (TWC for short).

Thanks!

Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
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On 02-26-15 19:07, Nicholas Boel wrote to All <=-

So I did some more digging around wherever I could to find the issue I
was having.. So I took a look at my router configuration, which
included some system logs and routing tables.

While all my 2001:* addresses were listed there, so were some 2605:* addresses. So I got a little excited and had to make sure. Disabled my tunnel completely, changed my router settings to "native", and sure enough.. I now have native IPv6!

I wonder if that had anything to do with the double addresses issue I
had, since my router was set to use the prefix 2001:* could it be
possible that since I had a native address coming in also, that my
router may have tacked on the prefix and left the rest? I'm not sure.

But after getting rid of the tunnel and going with native, I now only
have one v6 address listed.. so the issue may have fixed itself now.

Finally, after verifying that bbs.pharcyde.org (both ports 24554 and 24555) answer with a 2605:a000:140d:41cd prefix, please change both of
my listings to Native please, and my ISP is Time Warner Cable (TWC for short).

Thanks!

Welcome to the Native world... :)


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FTP: ftp.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:2121
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Hello Nicholas!

Feb 26 19:07 2015, Nicholas Boel wrote to All:

I wonder if that had anything to do with the double addresses issue I had, since my router was set to use the prefix 2001:* could it be possible that since I had a native address coming in also, that my
router may have tacked on the prefix and left the rest? I'm not sure.

There are still a lot of issues with IPv6 on SOHO routers, like missing features and bugs.

But after getting rid of the tunnel and going with native, I now only have one v6 address listed.. so the issue may have fixed itself now.

So it could have been the router.

BTW, welcome to the IPv6 natives ;)

Regards,
Markus

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Hello Nicholas,

On Thursday February 26 2015 19:07, you wrote to All:

Finally, after verifying that bbs.pharcyde.org (both ports 24554 and 24555) answer with a 2605:a000:140d:41cd prefix, please change both of
my listings to Native please, and my ISP is Time Warner Cable (TWC for short).

I will update the list of IPv6 nodes. See also the next issue of Fidonews...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Markus,

On 27 Feb 15 15:52, Markus Reschke wrote to Nicholas Boel:

There are still a lot of issues with IPv6 on SOHO routers, like
missing features and bugs.

I believe it. That paired with the fact that I haven't been keeping up on the firmware updates for my router either, so I'm probably a little behind in the features department. :)

But after getting rid of the tunnel and going with native, I now
only have one v6 address listed.. so the issue may have fixed
itself now.

So it could have been the router.

Could have been.

BTW, welcome to the IPv6 natives ;)

Thanks!

Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/701)

Hello Michiel,

On 27 Feb 15 22:11, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Finally, after verifying that bbs.pharcyde.org (both ports 24554
and 24555) answer with a 2605:a000:140d:41cd prefix, please
change both of my listings to Native please, and my ISP is Time
Warner Cable (TWC for short).

I will update the list of IPv6 nodes. See also the next issue of Fidonews...

Thanks Michiel.

Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/701)

Hello everybody!

My ISP has FINALLY made native IPv6 available; phoenix.bnbbbs.net now has address 2601:6:6f40:3c:f1d0:1:320:219. Anyone who would like to test with it can feel free to do so; I haven't managed to break it (yet!)

Andrew

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net:2323 (1:320/219)

Hello Andrew,

On Tuesday April 21 2015 17:53, you wrote to All:

My ISP has FINALLY made native IPv6 available; phoenix.bnbbbs.net now
has address 2601:6:6f40:3c:f1d0:1:320:219. Anyone who would like to
test with it can feel free to do so; I haven't managed to break it
(yet!)

+ 00:44 [3468] call to 1:320/219@fidonet
00:44 [3468] trying phoenix.bnbbbs.net [2601:6:6f40:3c:f1d0:1:320:219]:24555...
00:44 [3468] connected
+ 00:44 [3468] outgoing session with phoenix.bnbbbs.net:24555
[2601:6:6f40:3c:f1d0:1:320:219]
- 00:44 [3468] OPT CRAM-MD5-69108e659982a1c69c6a10fce827efa5
+ 00:44 [3468] Remote requests MD mode
- 00:44 [3468] OPT CRC
- 00:44 [3468] SYS Phoenix BBS
- 00:44 [3468] ZYZ Andrew Leary
- 00:44 [3468] LOC Pawcatuck, CT
- 00:44 [3468] NDL ICM,XX,IBN,ITN:60177,IFC
- 00:44 [3468] TIME Tue, 21 Apr 2015 18:44:58 -0400
- 00:44 [3468] VER mbcico/1.0.5/GNU/Linux-i386 binkp/1.1
- 00:44 [3468] PHN phoenix.bnbbbs.net
- 00:44 [3468] OPM Phoenix BBS
+ 00:44 [3468] addr: 1:320/219@fidonet

Congratulations! Yep, it works. Your Telnet BBS BTW also answers on IPv6.

I say, you guys over there are lucky. Here the big ISPs are still dragging their feet. My ISP has been making promises for five years now. "We will roll it out next year"... Well, it seems they are now FINALLY doing some pilots. But only for clients with a specific brand of cable modem. My old Motorola surfboard is still doing well, so I will have to wait at least another year...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Michiel!

22 Apr 15 01:04, you wrote to me:

My ISP has FINALLY made native IPv6 available; phoenix.bnbbbs.net
now has address 2601:6:6f40:3c:f1d0:1:320:219. Anyone who would
like to test with it can feel free to do so; I haven't managed to
break it (yet!)

+ 00:44 [3468] call to 1:320/219@fidonet
00:44 [3468] trying phoenix.bnbbbs.net [2601:6:6f40:3c:f1d0:1:320:219]:24555... 00:44 [3468] connected +
00:44 [3468] outgoing session with phoenix.bnbbbs.net:24555
[2601:6:6f40:3c:f1d0:1:320:219]
- 00:44 [3468] OPT CRAM-MD5-69108e659982a1c69c6a10fce827efa5
+ 00:44 [3468] Remote requests MD mode
- 00:44 [3468] OPT CRC
- 00:44 [3468] SYS Phoenix BBS
- 00:44 [3468] ZYZ Andrew Leary
- 00:44 [3468] LOC Pawcatuck, CT
- 00:44 [3468] NDL ICM,XX,IBN,ITN:60177,IFC
- 00:44 [3468] TIME Tue, 21 Apr 2015 18:44:58 -0400
- 00:44 [3468] VER mbcico/1.0.5/GNU/Linux-i386 binkp/1.1
- 00:44 [3468] PHN phoenix.bnbbbs.net
- 00:44 [3468] OPM Phoenix BBS
+ 00:44 [3468] addr: 1:320/219@fidonet

Congratulations! Yep, it works. Your Telnet BBS BTW also answers on
IPv6.

My MBSE system supports both IPv4 and IPv6 for all services it offers, except for the InterBBS chat server. Michiel Broek never added IPv6 support to that, and I have a few other more pressing changes I want to work on before I tackle that project.

I say, you guys over there are lucky. Here the big ISPs are still
dragging their feet. My ISP has been making promises for five years
now. "We will roll it out next year"... Well, it seems they are now FINALLY doing some pilots. But only for clients with a specific brand
of cable modem. My old Motorola surfboard is still doing well, so I
will have to wait at least another year...

Comcast is pushing hard to get everyone to use their wireless gateways for their Triple Play packages. These gateways have built in routers, which provide very limited options for port forwarding, etc. It can take 2-3 tech support people before you will find one that will put their device into bridge mode for you. After the device went brain dead and refused to respond to DHCP requests 3 times in 12 days, I removed it and exchanged it for a modem/EMTA that has worked flawlessly ever since.

Andrew


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
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Hello Michiel.

22 Apr 15 01:04, you wrote to Andrew Leary:

I say, you guys over there are lucky. Here the big ISPs are still
dragging their feet. My ISP has been making promises for five years

The same thing here in Finland. No IPv6 for private customers from the biggest ISP's.

Some weeks ago I ordered a new 4G connection to my mobile office. And what I got? A NATted IPV4 connection! Well, VPN to my company server works, that's enough for now.

'Tommi

--- Elisa 4G Premium 50G NATTED IPv4
* Origin: ================================= (2:221/360.8110)

Hello Tommi,

On Wednesday April 22 2015 07:42, you wrote to me:

Some weeks ago I ordered a new 4G connection to my mobile office. And
what I got? A NATted IPV4 connection! Well, VPN to my company server works, that's enough for now.

Here mobile providers have stopped issuing globally routable IPv4 addresses some two years ago. They must have run out of IPv4 addresses. You get an RFC1918 or RFC 6598 address. And no IPv6!

They get away with it because almost no one runs a server on a tablet or smart phone. The vast majority of mobile users never notice they have a crippled connection. :-(


Cheers, Michiel

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* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello Andrew,

On Tuesday April 21 2015 20:16, you wrote to me:

Congratulations! Yep, it works. Your Telnet BBS BTW also answers
on IPv6.

My MBSE system supports both IPv4 and IPv6 for all services it offers, except for the InterBBS chat server. Michiel Broek never added IPv6 support to that, and I have a few other more pressing changes I want
to work on before I tackle that project.

AFAIK Michiel Broek's MBSE was the first Fidonet mailer to support IPv6. He was hampered in the development because he was the first and there was no one else to test it against. Unfortunately he left Fidonet before the first "official" binkp IPv6 connection was made. Given that here in The Netherlands users had de facto been an extinct species since the late ninetees, I can understand why that last part was not on top of his list of priorities.

The sad news is that he left Fidonet, the good news is that he did not take the source of MBSE with him. I can also understand why adding that particular last part is not on top of your list of priorities either...

Comcast is pushing hard to get everyone to use their wireless gateways
for their Triple Play packages. These gateways have built in routers, which provide very limited options for port forwarding, etc.

Unfornunately we see the same development here too. I am the lucky one, I still have my dumb Motorola surfboard wth my own router, but I expect I won't be able to keep that very long. When Ziggo finally brings IPv6 to my home, I will probably have to accept one of their wireless modem/routers as well.

They say these new modem/routers can be set in bridge mode but then I will have no IPv6 and I won't be able to make use of the shared WiFi net they offer. To make use of other customer's WiFi network, I have to open let my WiFi network to the others and that is not possible with the modem/router in bridge mode...


Cheers, Michiel

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22 Apr 15 10:26, you wrote to me:

Some weeks ago I ordered a new 4G connection to my mobile office.
And what I got? A NATted IPV4 connection! Well, VPN to my company
server works, that's enough for now.

Here mobile providers have stopped issuing globally routable IPv4 addresses some two years ago. They must have run out of IPv4
addresses.

Yes, that is the reason here, too.

They get away with it because almost no one runs a server on a tablet
or smart phone. The vast majority of mobile users never notice they
have a crippled connection. :-(

It's funny that my own *OLD* personal mobile phone from the same company has a forced 256kbit internet connection 'for free', and it has a public dynamic IPv4 address. ;) But no IPv6.

I believe no one at Elisa knows about such a thing. They only advertize their suuuuuuuuperfaaaaaaast 4G network. ;)

'Tommi

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Hello Michiel!

22 Apr 15 11:05, you wrote to Andrew Leary:

MvdV> AFAIK Michiel Broek's MBSE was the first Fidonet mailer to support IPv6.
MvdV> He was hampered in the development because he was the first and there
MvdV> was no one else to test it against. Unfortunately he left Fidonet before
MvdV> the first "official" binkp IPv6 connection was made.

When I added IPv6 to my system to connect to Wilfred, I was surprised that
I also made IPv6 connections to Michiel Broek. That lasted till he left
Fidonet.

Kees

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hello Kees,

On Wednesday April 22 2015 12:33, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> AFAIK Michiel Broek's MBSE was the first Fidonet mailer to
MvdV>> support IPv6. He was hampered in the development because he was
MvdV>> the first and there was no one else to test it against.
MvdV>> Unfortunately he left Fidonet before the first "official" binkp
MvdV>> IPv6 connection was made.

When I added IPv6 to my system to connect to Wilfred, I was surprised that I also made IPv6 connections to Michiel Broek. That lasted till
he left Fidonet.

Ah, yes, I now remember you told me that. So I stand corrected on the time-line. He left AFTER the first IPv6 binkp connect.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Tommi,

On Wednesday April 22 2015 12:49, you wrote to me:

It's funny that my own *OLD* personal mobile phone from the same
company has a forced 256kbit internet connection 'for free', and it
has a public dynamic IPv4 address. ;) But no IPv6.

Maube the hardware or firmware of that old phone does not support IPv6 and that is why you do not get an IPv6 address?

My Huawei E153 2G/3G USB dongle alledgedly does not support IPv6 either. So even if I ever run into a 2G/3G network that issues IPv6 addresses, I won't be able to use it. I will make sure that my next dongle supports IPv6 and 4G.

I believe no one at Elisa knows about such a thing. They only
advertize their suuuuuuuuperfaaaaaaast 4G network. ;)

Same here. All the attention is on speed, speed, speed... That seems to attract customers...


Cheers, Michiel

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22 Apr 15 13:08, you wrote to me:

My Huawei E153 2G/3G USB dongle alledgedly does not support IPv6
either. So even if I ever run into a 2G/3G network that issues IPv6 addresses, I won't be able to use it. I will make sure that my next
dongle supports IPv6 and 4G.

I have HUAWEI-B593 4G router here. It supports IPv6, but since there is no support from the network, I cannot test it... Quite nice piece of hardware. I might consider of buying one for myself also.

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi,

On Wednesday April 22 2015 15:24, you wrote to me:

I have HUAWEI-B593 4G router here. It supports IPv6, but since there
is no support from the network, I cannot test it... Quite nice piece
of hardware. I might consider of buying one for myself also.

A very nice gadget. But an overkill for me. I just want Internet access for my laptop when on the move. I do not need nor want to provide service for all the others on the camping. ;-)


A simple USB dongle would serve me well. But as you say, how do I test it on IPv6 when no mobile network supports it? Experience has taught me to not take the suppliers word for these things...

Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Michiel!

22 Apr 2015 13:08, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tommi Koivula:

MvdV> I will make sure that my next
MvdV> dongle supports IPv6 and 4G.

5G commes next year, i wont pay for 4G anymore, have 2 mobile hotspot with 4G, and lost may 12" tablet on floor so screen is damaged, so i have desided to wait until 5G comes in store before getting new gadgets

4G is here lots faster then my current adsl is :(

but fiber optic is in order now here to be working in 2016

just remember that mobile broadband is shared pipelines so not all can use full speed at the same time


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Hello Michiel.

22 Apr 15 16:40, you wrote to me:

I have HUAWEI-B593 4G router here. It supports IPv6, but since
there is no support from the network, I cannot test it... Quite
nice piece of hardware. I might consider of buying one for myself
also.

A very nice gadget. But an overkill for me. I just want Internet
access for my laptop when on the move. I do not need nor want to
provide service for all the others on the camping. ;-)

I have also an external outdoor antenna for this Huawei router. I wouldn't think of using this system on the move. ;)

'Tommi

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Hello, Michiel van der Vlist.
On 4/22/15 11:05 AM you wrote:

They say these new modem/routers can be set in bridge mode but
then I will have no IPv6 and I won't be able to make use of the
shared WiFi net they offer. To make use of other customer's WiFi
network, I have to open let my WiFi network to the others and that
is not possible with the modem/router in bridge mode...

With the gateways that Comcast is using, bridge mode does not disable usage of IPv6. It does require disabling the WiFi however. This wasn't an issue for me, as I have my own WiFi router anyway.


--
Regards,

Andrew
--- Hotdoged/2.10/Android
* Origin: Phoenix Droid (1:320/219.1)

Hello Andrew,

On Thursday April 23 2015 12:53, you wrote to me:

With the gateways that Comcast is using, bridge mode does not disable usage of IPv6.

Rumour has it that Ziggo disables IPv6 in bridge mode. At least for now.

It does require disabling the WiFi however. This
wasn't an issue for me, as I have my own WiFi router anyway.

THAT Wifi would not be an issue for me either. I have several alternatives to provide a WiFi access in my own home.

The Ziggo modems however do not just provide a private WiFi network, they also have a guest network, available to all the other Ziggo customers. On the condition that they enable the guest network in their own router. With the router in bridge mode, one can not open the guest network for others. And so one does not enjoy access to the gust network of the other customers. It is a bit like FON.


Cheers, Michiel

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MvdV> It is a bit like FON.

Ahhh... Good old FON. I have three FON APs here, all three jailbroken with dd-wrt on them, but I still have not found any good use for them. Have you?

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Thursday April 23 2015 23:17, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> It is a bit like FON.

Ahhh... Good old FON. I have three FON APs here, all three
jailbroken with dd-wrt on them, but I still have not found any good
use for them. Have you?

I have found a use for my first FON AP. They started out with the Linksys WRT54GL. That is reflashed with OpenWrt and it is now my main router hosting my he.net tunnel.

The Fonera 1 and Fonera Plus have found a resting place somewhere in the attic. The last one, the Fonera Simpl is still in use as a FON AP.

http://www.vlist.eu/fon/simpl.htm

No IPv6 though...


Cheers, Michiel

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MvdV> No IPv6 though...

Alas. That's what I thought. All three of mine are waiting for the final sentence...

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