• IPv6

    From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to All on Wed Aug 17 11:23:32 2011
    Good ${greeting_time}, All!

    You can congratulate me - `whois 2a01:ba80::/48`

    * Originally in ENET.SYSOP
    * Crossposted in IPV6

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Alexey Vissarionov on Wed Aug 17 10:00:01 2011
    Hello Alexey,

    On Wednesday August 17 2011 11:23, you wrote to All:

    You can congratulate me - `whois 2a01:ba80::/48`

    Congratulations!

    Is there a pinagble host in that range? I tried 2a01:ba80::1. It does not ping.

    Is it a tunnel or is it native?


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20070503
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Aug 17 14:00:32 2011
    Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

    17 Aug 2011 10:00:00, you wrote to me:

    You can congratulate me - `whois 2a01:ba80::/48`
    Congratulations!

    Thank you!

    Is there a pinagble host in that range?
    I tried 2a01:ba80::1. It does not ping.

    No yet, but "that's on my agenga".

    Is it a tunnel or is it native?

    There really are some advantages in working for LIR... :-)

    Yes, it is native (first^W zeroth ALLOCATED-BY-LIR /48 in our ALLOCATED-BY-RIR /32 block). Also, our NOC department works on setting IPv6 up on links with all our peers - so the visibility of our IPv6 block is just a matter of time.


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    ... :wq!
    --- /bin/vi
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Alexey Vissarionov on Wed Aug 17 13:51:52 2011
    Hello Alexey,

    On Wednesday August 17 2011 14:00, you wrote to me:

    You can congratulate me - `whois 2a01:ba80::/48`

    Congratulations!

    Thank you!

    You'r welcome.

    Is it a tunnel or is it native?

    There really are some advantages in working for LIR... :-)

    I suppose so... ;-)

    Yes, it is native (first^W zeroth ALLOCATED-BY-LIR /48 in our ALLOCATED-BY-RIR /32 block).

    Figures. I already wondered, 2a01:ba80:: would normally be associated with a /32. Unless you got the FIRST out of those 65536 /48's ;-)

    So once again: congratulations on getting that first.

    Also, our NOC department works on setting IPv6 up on links with all
    our peers - so the visibility of our IPv6 block is just a matter of
    time.

    Keep us posted.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20070503
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Aug 17 16:32:40 2011
    Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

    17 Aug 2011 13:51:52, you wrote to me:

    Yes, it is native (first^W zeroth ALLOCATED-BY-LIR /48 in our
    ALLOCATED-BY-RIR /32 block).
    Figures. I already wondered, 2a01:ba80:: would normally be associated
    with a /32. Unless you got the FIRST out of those 65536 /48's ;-)

    Yes - I was the first and got block number zero :-)


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Alexey Vissarionov on Wed Aug 17 14:02:56 2011
    Hello Alexey,

    On Wednesday August 17 2011 14:00, you wrote to me:

    You can congratulate me - `whois 2a01:ba80::/48`

    Congratulations!

    Thank you!

    You'r welcome.

    Is it a tunnel or is it native?

    There really are some advantages in working for LIR... :-)

    Especially if you are a listed contact in the RIPE data base and your are known as GREMl-RIPE..... ;-)

    I have to make do with MVDV4-SIXXS. ;-)

    Yes, it is native (first^W zeroth ALLOCATED-BY-LIR /48 in our ALLOCATED-BY-RIR /32 block).

    Figures. I already wondered, 2a01:ba80:: would normally be associated with a /32. Unless you got the FIRST out of those 65536 /48's ;-)

    So once again: congratulations on getting that first.

    Also, our NOC department works on setting IPv6 up on links with all
    our peers - so the visibility of our IPv6 block is just a matter of
    time.

    Keep us posted.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20070503
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to All on Wed Aug 17 14:47:08 2011
    * Forwarded from ENET.SYSOP by Benny Pedersen (2:230/0).
    * Originally by: Alexey Vissarionov (2:5020/545), 17 Aug 11 11:23.
    * Originally to: All (2:230/0).

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    Good ${greeting_time}, All!

    You can congratulate me - `whois 2a01:ba80::/48`

    * Originally in ENET.SYSOP
    * Crossposted in IPV6

    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
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    ... :wq!
    -+- /bin/vi
    + Origin: http://openwall.com/Owl (2:5020/545)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Aug 24 11:46:40 2011
    Hello Michiel!

    17 Aug 2011 14:02, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    this was the last msg i got from you Michiel

    Janis: is there brokken links to some Z2 nodes ?, aslong i can post and get reply back from you i consider it works, but Michiel does not agree :(


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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    * Origin: home.junc.org where qico is waiting (2:230/0)
  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Benny Pedersen on Thu Aug 25 09:24:28 2011
    Hello Michiel!

    17 Aug 2011 14:02, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    this was the last msg i got from you Michiel

    Janis: is there brokken links to some Z2 nodes ?, aslong i can post and get reply back from you i consider it works, but Michiel does not agree :(

    I got your message here, Benny :)

    Sorry I didn't notice it before..

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Janis Kracht on Thu Aug 25 22:12:58 2011
    Hello Janis!

    25 Aug 2011 09:24, Janis Kracht wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    I got your message here, Benny :)

    wondering who should make a rescan to sync this to z2, as i understand Michiel there is 2 versions of IPV6, one in each zone that is not connected :(

    if ward have this area could you bridge it for all of us ? :=)

    and nicely ask for full rescan

    Sorry I didn't notice it before..

    no problem, atleast you read it


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Stas Degteff@2:5080/102.1 to Benny Pedersen on Fri Aug 26 03:25:32 2011
    Hello Benny!

    24 Aug 11 11:46, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    @MSGID: 2:230/0 4e54e5a0

    .....

    SEEN-BY: 123/500 124/311 128/2 187 140/1 18 203/0 230/0 150 249/303
    261/20 38
    SEEN-BY: 263/950 280/464 1141 5003 5555 292/854 340/400 633/260
    640/384
    SEEN-BY: 712/848 5019/40 5020/545 715 1042 2140 5053/54 5057/70
    5068/58
    SEEN-BY: 5080/102 5083/444
    @PATH: 230/0 261/38 140/1 292/854 280/5555 5020/1042 5080/102

    WARNING!

    1st:
    2:292/854 do nos strip seen-by kludges for zone 1 and zone 3
    It is most seriouse technical error.

    2nd:
    Echoconference IPV6 cross zonegates twice. Such situation is potencial dupedrome.

    Stas
    Jabber-ID: grumbler@grumbler.org
    GPG key 0x72186DB9 (keyserver: hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net)

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Benny Pedersen on Thu Aug 25 17:47:42 2011
    Hi Benny,
    I got your message here, Benny :)

    wondering who should make a rescan to sync this to z2, as i understand Michiel
    there is 2 versions of IPV6, one in each zone that is not connected :(

    That doesn't make a lot of sense, does it.. :)

    if ward have this area could you bridge it for all of us ? :=)

    and nicely ask for full rescan

    I will ask Ward, I think his mailer will do it. BBBS doesn't do %rescan as you probably remember :). I'll ask Ward about it this evening.

    Sorry I didn't notice it before..

    no problem, atleast you read it

    :)

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Stas Degteff on Mon Aug 29 11:31:32 2011
    Hello Stas,

    On Friday August 26 2011 03:25, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:


    2nd:
    Echoconference IPV6 cross zonegates twice. Such situation is potencial dupedrome.

    I agree, but please leave it to the moderator to fix it.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20070503
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Aug 29 20:19:50 2011
    Hello Michiel!

    29 Aug 2011 11:31, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Stas Degteff:

    MvdV> I agree, but please leave it to the moderator to fix it.

    dupes is okay if there come some, if detected as dupes its okay with me, that means this echoarea does work


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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    * Origin: home.junc.org where qico is waiting (2:230/0)
  • From Jame Clay@1:120/546 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Thu Nov 3 17:54:34 2011
    Michiel,

    On Wednesday October 26 2011 12:37, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:
    Another /545 should also be available via IPv6 at
    2a01:ba80::f1d0:2:5020:545
    I get an error attempting to ping that: Destination unreachable:
    Address unreachable

    I can reach that now; routing issue...


    Mine, btw, is 2001:470:1f11:10b9::5.

    Ah, Hurricane Electic, just like mine. From the same /40.
    But yours does not ping.
    root@OpenWrt:~# ping 2001:470:1f11:10b9::5

    When you have a chance, please try that again.



    Mine shoud ping. See origin

    And I could ping yours as well...



    Jame



    --- BBBS/LiI v4.01 Flag
    * Origin: Rocasa BBS (1:120/546)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Jame Clay on Fri Nov 4 10:39:18 2011
    Hi,

    On 03 Nov 11 17:54, Jame Clay wrote to Michiel Van Der Vlist:
    about: "IPv6":

    root@OpenWrt:~# ping 2001:470:1f11:10b9::5

    When you have a chance, please try that again.

    Ain't working at this moment:

    # ping6 2001:470:1f11:10b9::5
    PING 2001:470:1f11:10b9::5(2001:470:1f11:10b9::5) 56 data bytes
    ^C
    -+- 2001:470:1f11:10b9::5 ping statistics ---
    5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4000ms

    # date
    Fri Nov 4 10:39:56 CET 2011
    # date -u
    Fri Nov 4 09:40:15 UTC 2011


    Bye, Wilfred.


    --- FMail/Win32 1.64.GPL
    * Origin: Amiga Offline BBS Lisse (2:280/464)
  • From Jame Clay@1:120/546 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Fri Nov 4 16:47:06 2011
    Michiel,

    It so happens that my main IPv6 router is also based on Linux. OpenWrt on a Linksys WRT54GL.

    I recall you mentioning that before but didn't have a chance to ask you. What version are you using for that? I've been interested in installing something like that on mine (though I'm using something else for IPv6 connectivity) and I'd like to be sure that it has IPv6 capability on it...



    Jame





    --- BBBS/LiI v4.01 Flag
    * Origin: Rocasa BBS (1:120/546)
  • From Jame Clay@1:120/546 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Fri Nov 4 16:54:14 2011
    Wilfred,

    Ain't working at this moment:
    # ping6 2001:470:1f11:10b9::5
    PING 2001:470:1f11:10b9::5(2001:470:1f11:10b9::5) 56 data bytes
    ^C
    -+- 2001:470:1f11:10b9::5 ping statistics ---
    5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4000ms
    # date
    Fri Nov 4 10:39:56 CET 2011
    # date -u
    Fri Nov 4 09:40:15 UTC 2011
    Bye, Wilfred.

    Odd... Could you try a traceroute when you have a chance? I can reach others, for instance:

    $ ping6 2001:470:1f15:1117::1
    PING 2001:470:1f15:1117::1(2001:470:1f15:1117::1) 56 data bytes ^C
    -+- 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 ping statistics ---
    4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3004ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 154.914/156.643/158.773/1.529 ms

    $ date
    Fri Nov 4 16:52:40 EDT 2011
    $ date -u
    Fri Nov 4 20:52:42 UTC 2011


    --- BBBS/LiI v4.01 Flag
    * Origin: Rocasa BBS (1:120/546)
  • From Jame Clay@1:120/546 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Fri Nov 4 17:15:32 2011
    Michiel,

    Here's a traceroute:

    $ traceroute 2001:470:1f15:1117::1
    traceroute to 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2001:470:1f15:1117::1), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
    1 2001:470:1f11:10b9::1 (2001:470:1f11:10b9::1) 2.095 ms 2.050 ms 2.036 ms
    2 2001:470:1f10:10b9::1 (2001:470:1f10:10b9::1) 56.933 ms 58.031 ms 61.716 ms
    3 2001:470:0:6e::1 (2001:470:0:6e::1) 65.357 ms 65.368 ms 65.385 ms
    4 2001:470:0:1c6::1 (2001:470:0:1c6::1) 79.747 ms 79.312 ms 79.324 ms
    5 2001:470:0:128::2 (2001:470:0:128::2) 148.507 ms 148.502 ms 148.431 ms
    6 2001:470:0:3f::2 (2001:470:0:3f::2) 154.446 ms 144.089 ms 144.354 ms
    7 2001:470:0:7d::2 (2001:470:0:7d::2) 154.901 ms 151.530 ms 157.931 ms
    8 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2001:470:1f15:1117::1) 169.680 ms 167.086 ms 167.070 ms



    Jame




    --- BBBS/LiI v4.01 Flag
    * Origin: Rocasa BBS (1:120/546)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Jame Clay on Sat Nov 5 10:59:46 2011
    Hi,

    On 04 Nov 11 16:54, Jame Clay wrote to Wilfred Van Velzen:
    about: "Re: IPv6":

    Odd... Could you try a traceroute when you have a chance?

    # traceroute 2001:470:1f11:10b9::5
    traceroute to 2001:470:1f11:10b9::5 (2001:470:1f11:10b9::5), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets using UDP
    1 2001:980:5e1a:1:be05:43ff:fe30:8448 (2001:980:5e1a:1:be05:43ff:fe30:8448) 1.385 ms 2.001 ms 0.619 ms
    2 lo1.dr9.1d12.xs4all.net (2001:888:0:4901::1) 39.204 ms 51.517 ms 59.915 ms
    3 1319.ae3.xr3.3d12.xs4all.net (2001:888:0:4903::2) 61.817 ms 60.746 ms 59.674 ms
    4 2001:888:1:4005::1 (2001:888:1:4005::1) 58.830 ms 57.764 ms 56.690 ms
    5 10gigabitethernet3-3.core1.ams1.he.net (2001:470:0:e8::1) 55.618 ms 54.546 ms 62.979 ms
    6 10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.lon1.he.net (2001:470:0:3f::1) 66.285 ms 65.477 ms 64.701 ms
    7 10gigabitethernet7-4.core1.nyc4.he.net (2001:470:0:3e::1) 120.177 ms 131.077 ms 138.730 ms
    8 10gigabitethernet8-3.core1.chi1.he.net (2001:470:0:1c6::2) 130.564 ms 133.355 ms 144.035 ms
    9 gige-gbge0.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net (2001:470:0:6e::2) 153.414 ms 155.809 ms 154.948 ms
    10 2001:470:1f10:10b9::2 (2001:470:1f10:10b9::2) 197.231 ms 209.854 ms 217.310 ms
    11 * * *
    12 * * *
    ...

    Btw: That last system on number 10 doesn't respond to pings either...

    I can reach others, for instance:

    $ ping6 2001:470:1f15:1117::1
    PING 2001:470:1f15:1117::1(2001:470:1f15:1117::1) 56 data bytes ^C
    -+- 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 ping statistics ---
    4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3004ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 154.914/156.643/158.773/1.529 ms

    Me too... ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.


    --- FMail/Win32 1.64.GPL
    * Origin: Amiga Offline BBS Lisse (2:280/464)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Jame Clay on Sun Nov 6 00:50:21 2011
    Hello Jame,

    On Friday November 04 2011 16:47, you wrote to me:

    It so happens that my main IPv6 router is also based on Linux.
    OpenWrt on a Linksys WRT54GL.

    I recall you mentioning that before but didn't have a chance to
    ask you. What version are you using for that?

    This is what I see when I start an ssh seesion:

    BusyBox v1.17.3 (2011-02-26 16:05:38 CET) built-in shell (ash)
    Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

    _______ ________ __
    | |.-----.-----.-----.| | | |.----.| |_
    | - || _ | -__| || | | || _|| _|
    |_______|| __|_____|__|__||________||__| |____|
    |__| W I R E L E S S F R E E D O M
    ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT (bleeding edge, r25759) ----------
    * 1/4 oz Vodka Pour all ingredents into mixing
    * 1/4 oz Gin tin with ice, strain into glass.
    * 1/4 oz Amaretto
    * 1/4 oz Triple sec
    * 1/4 oz Peach schnapps
    * 1/4 oz Sour mix
    * 1 splash Cranberry juice
    -----------------------------------------------------

    And here is where you can download the binary:

    http://www.vlist.eu/downloads/openwrt-wrt54g-squashfs-r25759.bin

    I did not compose that one myself. It was a Dutch guy that I ran across in a Dutch internet forum that did it for us.

    I've been interested in installing something like that on mine
    (though I'm using something else for IPv6 connectivity) and I'd like
    to be sure that it has IPv6 capability on it...

    This one sure has. It has been running sinds sring now.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20070503
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sun Nov 6 00:40:26 2011
    Hello Wilfred!

    05 Nov 2011 10:59, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Jame Clay:

    Btw: That last system on number 10 doesn't respond to pings either...

    pings is not traceroute in iptables

    $ ping6 2001:470:1f15:1117::1

    if pings fails try telnet :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.0.6-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: home.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)
  • From Jame Clay@1:120/546 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Sun Nov 6 10:57:20 2011
    Michiel,

    Hello Jame,
    On Friday November 04 2011 16:47, you wrote to me:
    It so happens that my main IPv6 router is also based on Linux.
    OpenWrt on a Linksys WRT54GL.
    I recall you mentioning that before but didn't have a chance to
    ask you. What version are you using for that?

    This is what I see when I start an ssh seesion:
    BusyBox v1.17.3 (2011-02-26 16:05:38 CET) built-in shell (ash)
    Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
    _______ ________ __
    | |.-----.-----.-----.| | | |.----.| |_
    | - || _ | -__| || | | || _|| _|
    |_______|| __|_____|__|__||________||__| |____|
    |__| W I R E L E S S F R E E D O M
    ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT (bleeding edge, r25759) ----------
    ....

    And here is where you can download the binary: http://www.vlist.eu/downloads/openwrt-wrt54g-squashfs-r25759.bin
    I did not compose that one myself. It was a Dutch guy that I ran across
    in a Dutch internet forum that did it for us.

    I'll check it out. Thanks!


    I've been interested in installing something like that on mine
    (though I'm using something else for IPv6 connectivity)

    Currently it's a Debian Linux install on a low end mini-itx system... If/when I can get the WRT54GL working for that (as firewall/router), it can go back to being for experimenting...


    and I'd like to be sure that it has IPv6 capability on it...
    This one sure has. It has been running sinds sring now.

    Since spring?




    Jame

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to All on Wed Nov 27 13:16:43 2013
    Hello everybody!

    My Linux system should now be available via IPv6. Anyone wanting to try it should point binkd at ipv6.bnbbbs.net [2001:4830:1100:2bf::2] ... Let me know if you have any problems.

    Regards,

    Andrew

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130111
    * Origin: Phoenix BBS * bnbbbs.net:2323 (1:320/219)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Andrew Leary on Wed Nov 27 21:04:21 2013
    Hello Andrew,

    On Wednesday November 27 2013 13:16, you wrote to All:

    My Linux system should now be available via IPv6. Anyone wanting to
    try it should point binkd at ipv6.bnbbbs.net [2001:4830:1100:2bf::2]
    ... Let me know if you have any problems.

    I can ping the host name, but when I try to probe it with Putty at port 24554 I get an error message.

    Network Error: Connection Refused.

    A port forwarding or firewall problem perhaps?


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Andrew Leary on Thu Nov 28 00:52:00 2013
    Good ${greeting_time}, Andrew!

    27 Nov 2013 13:16:42, you wrote to All:

    My Linux system should now be available via IPv6. Anyone wanting to
    try it should point binkd at ipv6.bnbbbs.net [2001:4830:1100:2bf::2]
    ... Let me know if you have any problems.

    gremlin@hren:~ > ping6 -c2 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2
    PING 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2(2001:4830:1100:2bf::2) 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=150 ms
    64 bytes from 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=150 ms

    --- 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2 ping statistics ---
    2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 150.389/150.499/150.610/0.403 ms


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

    ... god@universe:~ # cvs up && make world
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: http://openwall.com/Owl (2:5020/545)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Andrew Leary on Wed Nov 27 22:06:48 2013
    Hi,

    On 2013-11-27 13:16:43, Andrew Leary wrote to All:
    about: "IPv6":

    My Linux system should now be available via IPv6. Anyone wanting to
    try it should point binkd at ipv6.bnbbbs.net [2001:4830:1100:2bf::2]
    ... Let me know if you have any problems.

    Problem:

    # telnet ipv6.bnbbbs.net binkp
    Trying 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2...
    telnet: connect to address 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2: Connection refused


    Bye, Wilfred.


    --- FMail-W32-1.66
    * Origin: Amiga Offline BBS Lisse (2:280/464)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Andrew Leary on Wed Nov 27 21:59:32 2013
    Hello Andrew!

    27 Nov 13 13:16, you wrote to All:

    My Linux system should now be available via IPv6. Anyone wanting to try it
    should point binkd at ipv6.bnbbbs.net [2001:4830:1100:2bf::2] ... Let me know if you have any problems.

    I have the same problem Miechiel reported. "Connection refused"

    My poll command is still in the queue, so my system will keen on trying
    every 30 min.

    If you want to try outgoing sessions, feel free to connect to my system
    at 2:280/5003 or with Wilfred van Velzen at 2:280/464.

    DNS provides IPv6 and IPv4 vor bothy systems.

    Both have been operational with IPv6 for almost two years and have crash
    connects many times a day.

    Kees

    --- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Kees van Eeten on Wed Nov 27 22:27:40 2013
    Hi,

    On 2013-11-27 21:59:32, Kees van Eeten wrote to Andrew Leary:
    about: "IPv6":

    If you want to try outgoing sessions, feel free to connect to my
    system at 2:280/5003 or with Wilfred van Velzen at 2:280/464.

    DNS provides IPv6 and IPv4 vor bothy systems.

    Both have been operational with IPv6 for almost two years and have
    crash connects many times a day.

    That long already!? ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.


    --- FMail-W32-1.66
    * Origin: Amiga Offline BBS Lisse (2:280/464)
  • From Bj├╢rn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Wed Nov 27 22:55:23 2013
    I have the same problem Michiel reported. "Connection refused"

    Sounds familiar. I guess none of can still get passed my WinXP firewall?

    If only there was a simple way to export all the firewall settings in XP, but the closest I've come to is 'netsh f s i m=e t=a' and it still doesn't "export" all the settings. Especially not the IPv6 ditto, that I rely on to have my three SixXS tunnels working properly.

    Alas, I guess I'll have to rebuild my firewall from scratch if I ever should get to the point where I change system... :(

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Bj├╖rn Felten on Wed Nov 27 23:44:10 2013
    Hello BjЎrn!

    27 Nov 13 22:55, you wrote to me:

    I have the same problem Michiel reported. "Connection refused"

    Sounds familiar. I guess none of can still get passed my WinXP firewall?

    If only there was a simple way to export all the firewall settings in XP, but the closest I've come to is 'netsh f s i m=e t=a' and it still doesn't "export" all the settings. Especially not the IPv6 ditto, that I rely on to have my three SixXS tunnels working properly.

    You are talking gibberish to me here. I only use XP to update my TomTom
    and other gadgets, that use Linux, and are built by companies that leach
    on its use, but only cater to Windows users.

    Alas, I guess I'll have to rebuild my firewall from scratch if I
    ever
    should get to the point where I change system... :(

    Last week I got my first Raspberry Pi, and from what I have seen sofar
    al software that I use for the fido host and the point sytem I read/write
    these messages on, will run on it. It will be slower, but power use will
    reduce to 5 Watts. The Pots line may pose a problem, but a USB/serial
    converter should cover that. The only drawback may be its speed, but
    compared to old dos systems, it may not be too bad.

    O, by the way, by default there is no IPv6 on the Raspberry, but I guess that
    is done to save memory.

    Kees

    --- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Andrew Leary on Wed Nov 27 23:12:52 2013
    Hello Andrew!

    27 Nov 2013 13:16, Andrew Leary wrote to All:

    should point binkd at ipv6.bnbbbs.net [2001:4830:1100:2bf::2] ...

    try calling linode.junc.eu with works both for ipv4 and ipv6, so dont make hostnames with just support ipv6, big hint


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.12.1-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)
  • From Bj├╢rn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Thu Nov 28 00:16:32 2013
    Last week I got my first Raspberry Pi,

    Welcome to the gang. :)

    I've had mine for almost a year now, but I use it as a media server (running OpenELEC).

    Yes indeed, it's a fantastic gadget, I recommend everyone who's really interested in computing to test it. At less than Ь30 it's a bargain.

    Ahem, I guess we've strayed a wee bit OT here, sorry Mr. Moderator. Maybe we'll soon have reason to create a RASPBERRY echo even in our old, outdated fidonet? 8-)

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Nov 27 18:03:39 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    Wednesday November 27 2013 21:04, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Andrew Leary:

    ... Let me know if you have any problems.

    MvdV> I can ping the host name, but when I try to probe it with Putty at
    MvdV> port 24554 I get an error message.

    MvdV> Network Error: Connection Refused.

    MvdV> A port forwarding or firewall problem perhaps?

    It shouldn't be a port forwarding or firewall issue because the tunnel endpoint is on the box where binkd (well actually mbcico) lives. I might need to play with /etc/services a bit.

    Andrew

    ---
    * Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * V.Everything! * 860/535-4284 (1:320/119)
  • From Bj├╢rn Felten@2:203/2 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Thu Nov 28 01:07:23 2013
    Maybe we'll soon have reason to create a RASPBERRY echo even in our old, outdated fidonet? 8-)

    Said and done. The RASPBERRY echo is now created and be accessed from at least 2:203/0. Thanks to the Fidoweb function, I guess it'll be available from any echomail provider near you very soon...

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Kees van Eeten on Thu Nov 28 09:59:10 2013
    Hello Kees!

    27 Nov 2013 23:44, Kees van Eeten wrote to BjЎrn Felten:

    by the way, by default there is no IPv6 on the Raspberry, but I
    guess that is done to save memory.

    this will change when linux kernels only support ipv6, i have latest gentoo kernel where this is not yet possible, and it was one of the reasons i self disabled ipv6 here, and the fact that it was created via tunnels


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.12.1-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)
  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Andrew Leary on Thu Nov 28 10:03:56 2013
    Hello Andrew!

    27 Nov 2013 19:17, Andrew Leary wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Both of my systems are on the same IPv4 address, and only one of the supports IPv6.

    ah ok that way, its still possible to have 2 diff hostnames use same ipv4 aswell to make sure callers connect, i begin to see ipv6 only hostnames on mailservers so there is better world in front somewhere

    Using a separate hostname allows me to ensure that all
    IPv6 traffic ends up going to the host that supports IPv6.

    not completely need a seperate hostname just for that, but to make it forced it does


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.12.1-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Andrew Leary on Thu Nov 28 12:10:04 2013
    Hello Andrew!

    27 Nov 13 13:16, you wrote to All:

    My Linux system should now be available via IPv6. Anyone wanting to try it
    should point binkd at ipv6.bnbbbs.net [2001:4830:1100:2bf::2] ... Let me know if you have any problems.

    I have seen that you made a successfull connection to my system.
    I know that your software should be O.K. The moment I had IPv6 available,
    my connections to Michiel Broek ( then still active) use IPv6.

    I still get a connection refused on your system for IPv6.

    In experiments with ifcico i had the following line in inetd.conf

    fido stream tcp nowait ftn /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/lib/ifmail/ifcico -r 0
    fido stream tcp6 nowait ftn /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/lib/ifmail/ifcico -r 0

    Could it be that you did not introduce the tcp6 rule for binkd.

    Kees

    --- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Nov 28 05:28:59 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    Wednesday November 27 2013 21:04, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Andrew Leary:

    My Linux system should now be available via IPv6. Anyone wanting
    to try it should point binkd at ipv6.bnbbbs.net
    [2001:4830:1100:2bf::2]
    ... Let me know if you have any problems.

    MvdV> I can ping the host name, but when I try to probe it with Putty at
    MvdV> port 24554 I get an error message.

    MvdV> Network Error: Connection Refused.

    This should be fixed now; please try again.

    Andrew

    ---
    * Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * V.Everything! * 860/535-4284 (1:320/119)
  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Nov 28 05:30:51 2013
    Hello Wilfred!

    Wednesday November 27 2013 22:06, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Andrew Leary:

    to try it should point binkd at ipv6.bnbbbs.net
    [2001:4830:1100:2bf::2]
    ... Let me know if you have any problems.

    Problem:

    # telnet ipv6.bnbbbs.net binkp
    Trying 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2...
    telnet: connect to address 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2: Connection refused

    This should be fixed now; try again.

    Andrew

    ---
    * Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * V.Everything! * 860/535-4284 (1:320/119)
  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Kees van Eeten on Thu Nov 28 05:32:01 2013
    Hello Kees!

    Wednesday November 27 2013 21:59, Kees van Eeten wrote to Andrew Leary:

    My Linux system should now be available via IPv6. Anyone wanting
    to try it
    should point binkd at ipv6.bnbbbs.net [2001:4830:1100:2bf::2]
    ... Let me know if you have any problems.

    I have the same problem Miechiel reported. "Connection refused"

    This should be fixed now; please try it again.

    If you want to try outgoing sessions, feel free to connect to my
    system at 2:280/5003 or with Wilfred van Velzen at 2:280/464.
    DNS provides IPv6 and IPv4 vor bothy systems.
    Both have been operational with IPv6 for almost two years and have
    crash connects many times a day.

    mbcico was able to connect to both via IPv6 without issues.

    Andrew

    ---
    * Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * V.Everything! * 860/535-4284 (1:320/119)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Andrew Leary on Thu Nov 28 13:13:22 2013
    Hello Andrew!

    28 Nov 13 05:32, you wrote to me:

    If you want to try outgoing sessions, feel free to connect to my
    system at 2:280/5003 or with Wilfred van Velzen at 2:280/464.
    DNS provides IPv6 and IPv4 vor bothy systems.
    Both have been operational with IPv6 for almost two years and have
    crash connects many times a day.

    mbcico was able to connect to both via IPv6 without issues.

    Yes I noticed, that you connected to my system. My previous mail has
    a suggestion for something you may hace overlooked.

    On what port number do you expect the connection. The regular Binkd port or
    24555.

    Kees

    --- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Andrew Leary on Thu Nov 28 13:31:35 2013
    Hi Andrew,

    On 2013-11-28 05:30:51, you wrote to me:

    # telnet ipv6.bnbbbs.net binkp
    Trying 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2...
    telnet: connect to address 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2: Connection refused

    This should be fixed now; try again.

    Indeed:

    # telnet ipv6.bnbbbs.net binkp
    Trying 2001:4830:1100:2bf::2...
    Connected to ipv6.bnbbbs.net.
    Escape character is '^]'.
    ...


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-W32-1.66
    * Origin: Amiga Offline BBS Lisse (2:280/464)
  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Kees van Eeten on Thu Nov 28 13:54:26 2013
    Hello Kees!

    28 Nov 2013 12:10, Kees van Eeten wrote to Andrew Leary:

    fido stream tcp nowait ftn /usr/sbin/tcpd
    /usr/lib/ifmail/ifcico -r 0
    fido stream tcp6 nowait ftn /usr/sbin/tcpd
    /usr/lib/ifmail/ifcico -r 0

    ----- qico begins -----
    # binkp = 24554
    # tfido = 60179
    # fido = 60177
    service tfido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_tfido.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2.104.223.10
    disable = no
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 60177
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service fido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_fido.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2.104.223.10
    disable = no
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 60179
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service binkp
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_binkp.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2.104.223.10
    disable = no
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 24554
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a binkp
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service tfido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_tfido.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 192.168.5.100
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 60177
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service fido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_fido.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 192.168.5.100
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 60179
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service binkp
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_binkp.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 192.168.5.100
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 24554
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a binkp
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service tfido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_tfido.ipv6
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2001:470:27:bb3::2
    # 2001:16d8:dd00:137::2
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv6
    port = 60177
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service fido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_fido.ipv6
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2001:470:27:bb3::2
    # 2001:16d8:dd00:137::2
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv6
    port = 60179
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service binkp
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_binkp.ipv6
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2001:470:27:bb3::2
    # 2001:16d8:dd00:137::2
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv6
    port = 24554
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a binkp
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    ----- qico ends -----

    this is same for qico when i had it serving ipv6 here, qico was not avare of ipv6 for the serving part since xinetd did that for me, i post it here so i have backup of how to make it again :=)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.12.1-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Andrew Leary on Fri Nov 29 12:02:56 2013
    Hello Andrew,

    On Thursday November 28 2013 05:28, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> I can ping the host name, but when I try to probe it with Putty
    MvdV>> at port 24554 I get an error message.

    MvdV>> Network Error: Connection Refused.

    This should be fixed now; please try again.

    Yes, it works now.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Benny Pedersen on Fri Nov 29 12:17:38 2013
    Hello Benny!

    28 Nov 13 13:54, you wrote to me:

    Now I remember why I do not like xinetd, the config file is to large. ;)

    Hello Kees!

    28 Nov 2013 12:10, Kees van Eeten wrote to Andrew Leary:

    fido stream tcp nowait ftn /usr/sbin/tcpd
    /usr/lib/ifmail/ifcico -r 0
    fido stream tcp6 nowait ftn /usr/sbin/tcpd
    /usr/lib/ifmail/ifcico -r 0

    ----- qico begins -----
    # binkp = 24554
    # tfido = 60179
    # fido = 60177
    service tfido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_tfido.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2.104.223.10
    disable = no
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 60177
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service fido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_fido.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2.104.223.10
    disable = no
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 60179
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service binkp
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_binkp.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2.104.223.10
    disable = no
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 24554
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a binkp
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service tfido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_tfido.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 192.168.5.100
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 60177
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service fido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_fido.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 192.168.5.100
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 60179
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service binkp
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_binkp.ipv4
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 192.168.5.100
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv4
    port = 24554
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a binkp
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service tfido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_tfido.ipv6
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2001:470:27:bb3::2
    # 2001:16d8:dd00:137::2
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv6
    port = 60177
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service fido
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_fido.ipv6
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2001:470:27:bb3::2
    # 2001:16d8:dd00:137::2
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv6
    port = 60179
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a auto
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    service binkp
    {
    # log_type = FILE /home/xpoint/fido/log/xinetd_binkp.ipv6
    # log_on_succes = HOST PID
    # log_on_failure = HOST PID
    # bind = 2001:470:27:bb3::2
    # 2001:16d8:dd00:137::2
    disable = yes
    protocol = tcp
    flags = IPv6
    port = 24554
    socket_type = stream
    wait = no
    user = xpoint
    server = /usr/sbin/qico
    server_args = -a binkp
    per_source = 1
    instances = 1
    }
    ----- qico ends -----

    this is same for qico when i had it serving ipv6 here, qico was not avare of ipv6 for the serving part since xinetd did that for me, i post it here so i have backup of how to make it again :=)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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    * Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)

    Kees

    --- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Nov 29 12:20:36 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    We are still waiting for you. When is your system supporting IPv6 ;)


    29 Nov 13 12:02, you wrote to Andrew Leary:

    MvdV> Yes, it works now.

    Kees

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Andrew Leary on Fri Nov 29 12:03:40 2013
    Hello Andrew,

    Thursday November 28 2013 10:03, Benny Pedersen wrote to you:

    Both of my systems are on the same IPv4 address, and only one of
    the supports IPv6.

    Ah, that is an interseting configuration that I did not foresee when I proposed the INO4 flag...

    Using a separate hostname allows me to ensure that all
    IPv6 traffic ends up going to the host that supports IPv6.

    If this situation is permanent, rather than just a experiment, I suggest that instead of separate host names for IPv4 and IPv6, you use separate host names for the different systems. Example: Use bnbbbs.net for 320/119 and phoenix.bnbbbs.net for 320/219. Attach just an A record to bnbbbbs.net and both the A and AAAA records to phoenix.bnbbbs.net

    The only snag is that in that case, you'd have to make the ipv6 part listen on port 24555 instead of 24554.

    A third solution would be to add an extra node number - say 320/319 for the IPv6 experiment and list it with an INO4 flag to signal no IPv4.

    But the "grand" solution of course is to enable IPv6 for your other system as well...;-)


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Kees van Eeten on Fri Nov 29 13:05:12 2013
    Hello Kees,

    On Friday November 29 2013 12:20, you wrote to me:

    We are still waiting for you. When is your system supporting IPv6 ;)

    I am working on it. The main obstacle is not the IPv6 part. My system is build around an AMA mailer. But the only IPv6 capable mailers for windows are BSO. So I have to convert my system, or at least part of it, to BSO. That'the hurdle I have to take...


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Bj├╢rn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Nov 29 15:52:15 2013
    MvdV> I am working on it. The main obstacle is not the IPv6 part. My system is
    MvdV> build around an AMA mailer. But the only IPv6 capable mailers for
    MvdV> windows are BSO. So I have to convert my system, or at least part of it,
    MvdV> to BSO. That'the hurdle I have to take...

    Welcome to the gang. I've been (theoretically at lest) IPv6 compatible for more than three years now. But to no (binkp) avail.

    felten.yi.org can successfully be pinged, but all telnet/binkp access will be denied.

    My servers can be ping6:d and even get port 80 access too (I think I have all the proper AAAA records registered properly?), but I still have no idea about how to get those binkp servers of yours to access mine via IPv6.

    Andrew, please, what operating system are you using?

    For that matter, anyone still with Windows XP who can get binkp over IPv6 working, feel free to tell us how you managed to do it.

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Kees van Eeten on Fri Nov 29 14:58:06 2013
    Hello Kees!

    29 Nov 2013 12:17, Kees van Eeten wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Now I remember why I do not like xinetd, the config file is to
    large. ;)

    bah :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.12.1-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)
  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Nov 29 11:22:54 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    29 Nov 13 12:03, you wrote to me:

    Both of my systems are on the same IPv4 address, and only one of
    the supports IPv6.

    Ah, that is an interseting configuration that I did not foresee when I proposed the INO4 flag...

    Using a separate hostname allows me to ensure that all
    IPv6 traffic ends up going to the host that supports IPv6.

    If this situation is permanent, rather than just a experiment, I
    suggest that instead of separate host names for IPv4 and IPv6, you use separate host names for the different systems. Example: Use bnbbbs.net
    for 320/119 and phoenix.bnbbbs.net for 320/219. Attach just an A
    record to bnbbbbs.net and both the A and AAAA records to phoenix.bnbbbs.net

    That's not a bad idea... I'll work on that later.

    The only snag is that in that case, you'd have to make the ipv6 part listen on port 24555 instead of 24554.

    That should be as simple as changing the port number assignment in /etc/services, so that won't be much of an issue.

    A third solution would be to add an extra node number - say 320/319
    for the IPv6 experiment and list it with an INO4 flag to signal no
    IPv4.

    But the "grand" solution of course is to enable IPv6 for your other
    system as well...;-)

    1:320/119 still runs under OS/2, which does not, and probably never will, support IPv6.

    Andrew

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130111
    * Origin: Phoenix BBS * bnbbbs.net:2323 (1:320/219)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Fri Nov 29 18:43:53 2013
    Hello BjФrn,

    On Friday November 29 2013 15:52, you wrote to me:

    Welcome to the gang. I've been (theoretically at lest) IPv6
    compatible for more than three years now. But to no (binkp) avail.

    Same here I have two tunnels running. One from SuxSx taht covers one machine and one from he.net that survices the entire LAN.

    felten.yi.org can successfully be pinged, but all telnet/binkp
    access will be denied.

    Good. Or maybe not.. If felten.yi.org also han an AAAA record attached and indeed it does, then your nodelist entries advertise a method of connection that you do not actually support. The is - as some would say - detrimental to the smooth opeartion of the network. Why? Because this way you make it harder for Kees, Wilfred and Andrew to connect to your system. If their mailers go by the information in the nodelist, their mailers will first try to connect via IPv6. That will fail. Presumably the mailers will eventually try IPv4, but that may take considerable time depending on the exact configuration. It could be minutes...

    If you do not support incoming IPv6 over binkp, then the host name advertised in the nodelist should not have an AAAA record. If you want other applications to be reacheable via IPv6, you should use a differeny host name for that than the one in the nodelist used for binkp.

    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Bj├╢rn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Nov 29 19:42:07 2013
    MvdV> Good. Or maybe not.. If felten.yi.org also han an AAAA record attached
    MvdV> and indeed it does, then your nodelist entries advertise a method of
    MvdV> connection that you do not actually support.

    I beg to differ. AFAIK nothing in my nodelist entry says anything about IPv6 capability.

    Being as it may with that, I'm still hoping for one of two things to happen:

    1. Somebody will come up with a simple solution to make the Win XP firewall being able to administer IPv6.

    2. The linux world will come up with a firewall administrative tool that's as easy to use as the one in Win XP.

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Andrew Leary on Fri Nov 29 20:36:50 2013
    Hello Andrew,

    On Friday November 29 2013 11:22, you wrote to me:

    But the "grand" solution of course is to enable IPv6 for your
    other system as well...;-)

    1:320/119 still runs under OS/2, which does not, and probably never
    will, support IPv6.

    Ah, indeed. Easter and Pentacost falling on the same day, is more likely...

    I liked OS/2 but I dumped it because I could never make it talk IPX to connect to my other machines connected by Novell Personal Netware. There was a solution for that with the coming of OS/2 warp connect I understand, but by that time I had already dumped it and I very seldom go back on what I turned my back on.

    With 20/20 hindsight, I should have made the other machines on the LAN talk TCP/IP instead, but foreseeing the future was never my strong point. ;-)


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Fri Nov 29 20:57:58 2013
    Hello BjФrn,

    Friday November 29 2013 18:43, I wrote to you:

    Same here I have two tunnels running. One from SuxSx
    ^
    That was an honest typo. Not at all meant to denigrate SixXs. I have a problem with Jeroen Massaar's attitude, but the service he provides is outstanding, so I forgive him.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Bj├╖rn Felten on Fri Nov 29 19:17:46 2013
    Hello BjЎrn!

    29 Nov 2013 15:52, BjЎrn Felten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    Welcome to the gang. I've been (theoretically at lest) IPv6
    compatible for more than three years now. But to no (binkp) avail.

    felten.yi.org can successfully be pinged, but all telnet/binkp
    access will be denied.

    ping to ipv6.google.com works ?

    using teredo ? :=)

    na not funny, but it could just be stupid firewalls :/

    possible get sysresquecd (google it) burn it to a cdrom, boot it, test it can "ping6 -c3 ipv6.google.com" if that works your networking is done, but then its windows problem that it does not work on windows, if thats the case you need a router that allow bridge from ipv6 to ipv4 lan


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.12.1-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)
  • From Bj├╢rn Felten@2:203/2 to Benny Pedersen on Fri Nov 29 21:34:48 2013
    possible get sysresquecd (google it) burn it to a cdrom, boot it, test
    it can "ping6 -c3 ipv6.google.com" if that works your networking is
    done, but then its windows problem that it does not work on windows, if thats the case you need a router that allow bridge from ipv6 to ipv4 lan

    You might want to check back from the beginning of this echo (every posted message available on my JamNNTPd server, see origin line).

    I've been fully IPv6 functional *outwards* for three years now. It's the incoming connections that I can't get sorted out with the present Win XP system as router.

    http://test-ipv6.com/

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Fri Nov 29 21:01:54 2013
    Hello BjФrn,

    On Friday November 29 2013 19:42, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> Good. Or maybe not.. If felten.yi.org also han an AAAA record
    MvdV>> attached and indeed it does, then your nodelist entries
    MvdV>> advertise a method of connection that you do not actually
    MvdV>> support.

    I beg to differ. AFAIK nothing in my nodelist entry says anything
    about IPv6 capability.

    Indirectly it does. There is the host name felten.yi.org which has an IPv6 adress associated with it. That combination signals IPv6 capability.

    That way of signalling IPv6 capabiliy /is/ current practise you know...

    Being as it may with that, I'm still hoping for one of two things
    to happen:

    1. Somebody will come up with a simple solution to make the Win XP firewall being able to administer IPv6.

    Unlkikely. Win XP is nearing the end of the support cycle. It is unlikely we will see any more significant changes for it.

    2. The linux world will come up with a firewall administrative tool that's as easy to use as the one in Win XP.

    Not so likely either. The Linux guys just love text based configuration files.

    What I am still hoping for is IPv6 support for Irex. Perhaps if we all started nagging Charles about releasing the source? ....


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Fri Nov 29 21:45:56 2013
    Hello BjФrn,

    On Friday November 29 2013 21:34, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    I've been fully IPv6 functional *outwards* for three years now.
    It's the incoming connections that I can't get sorted out with the
    present Win XP system as router.

    Why do you use XP as a router? What type of tunnel do you have? AYIYA? It is my understanding that routing does not work with the Windows version.

    Why don't you try my way? Flashing an old Linksys with a version of OpenWrt that supports IPv6. The how-to is all in the FidoNews articles (3) I wrote about it.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Nov 29 20:53:10 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    29 Nov 2013 18:43, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to BjЎrn Felten:

    MvdV> If you do not support incoming IPv6 over binkp, then the host name
    MvdV> advertised in the nodelist should not have an AAAA record. If you
    MvdV> want other applications to be reacheable via IPv6, you should use a
    MvdV> differeny host name for that than the one in the nodelist used for
    MvdV> binkp.

    glibc have default ipv4 first, if that fails and there is a aaaa record it would be tryed last, this defaults can be changed in /etc/gai.conf on linux systems

    it supports pr ip changes of defaults


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.12.1-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)
  • From Bj├╢rn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Nov 29 22:29:29 2013
    MvdV> Why do you use XP as a router?

    1. It's the most stable OS that I have ever tried.

    2. It has the most simple and flexible administration of the firewall that I know of.

    3. It has all the remains of all my old computers, including all the fidonet stuff, with loads of MS-DOS programs developed and tweaked for more than 20 years. Converting it to something else would take far more time and effort than I am willing to spend on our museum piece.

    4. My ISP would give me a new IP if ever I change the MAC address (from my XP router/server), and I don't want to go down that route again unless necessary.

    MvdV> What type of tunnel do you have? AYIYA?

    No, it's a 6in4-static. And I want to keep it that way.

    MvdV> It is my understanding that routing does not work with the Windows version.

    It works for me. But (obviously) IPv6 routing doesn't work as well as IPv4 does with XP.

    MvdV> Why don't you try my way? Flashing an old Linksys with a version of
    MvdV> OpenWrt that supports IPv6. The how-to is all in the FidoNews articles
    MvdV> (3) I wrote about it.

    Been there, tried that, got a brick to prove it. :)

    Nah, just kidding. As I said, it's all about being able to administer the firewall in a user friendly way. I'm now to old to get back to the old MS-DOS variant of administering things, I want a GUI.

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  • From Bj├╢rn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Nov 29 22:38:12 2013
    MvdV> Unlkikely. Win XP is nearing the end of the support cycle. It is
    MvdV> unlikely we will see any more significant changes for it.

    That's actually a myth, that Microsoft wants the world to believe. Win XP is now so perfect it can be. The last numbers I saw showed that still almost 40% of all computers use it.

    Maybe it's not maintained by MS any more, but I still see lots of new developments for it. So I still haven't given up hope.

    MvdV> Not so likely either. The Linux guys just love text based configuration
    MvdV> files.

    Amen to that. Already when I first started using linux (Red Hat 2 I think it was) 15 or so years ago, I said in various news groups, that the linux world would never make it unless they made more GUI support.

    Now, with especially Ubuntu, they've come a long way. But they are still at least 20 years behind compared to all the newer OSs.

    MvdV> What I am still hoping for is IPv6 support for Irex. Perhaps if we all
    MvdV> started nagging Charles about releasing the source? ....

    Don't hold your breath. I've been nagging JoHo for more than a decade now about releasing the source for FrontDoor, that could easily have been converted to a fully fledged Windows program, but to no avail.

    Those old guys obviously don't want anyone to show that their product could be made even better...?

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  • From Bj├╢rn Felten@2:203/2 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Fri Nov 29 22:54:37 2013
    I've been fully IPv6 functional *outwards* for three years now.

    How times fly. It's almost five years now. To be exact, since:

    2009-02-11 05:34:22 UTC

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Fri Nov 29 17:39:31 2013
    Hello BjФrn!

    Friday November 29 2013 15:52, BjФrn Felten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    Welcome to the gang. I've been (theoretically at lest) IPv6
    compatible for more than three years now. But to no (binkp) avail.

    felten.yi.org can successfully be pinged, but all telnet/binkp
    access will be denied.

    Hmmm...

    My servers can be ping6:d and even get port 80 access too (I think
    I have all the proper AAAA records registered properly?), but I still
    have no idea about how to get those binkp servers of yours to access
    mine via IPv6.

    It may have something to do with the Windows Firewall, if you have that enabled.

    Andrew, please, what operating system are you using?

    Slackware Linux 14.0 for the IPv6 capable system.

    For that matter, anyone still with Windows XP who can get binkp
    over IPv6 working, feel free to tell us how you managed to do it.

    Maybe I will attempt to get it running on a spare machine here, just to see it it's possible.

    Andrew

    ---
    * Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * V.Everything! * 860/535-4284 (1:320/119)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Sat Nov 30 01:04:38 2013
    Hello BjФrn,

    On Friday November 29 2013 22:29, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> Why do you use XP as a router?

    1. It's the most stable OS that I have ever tried.

    We could start an OS war about stability, but a stable OS does not mean that is the best choice for a router.

    2. It has the most simple and flexible administration of the
    firewall that I know of.

    But not for IPv6 you say...

    3. It has all the remains of all my old computers, including all
    the fidonet stuff, with loads of MS-DOS programs developed and tweaked
    for more than 20 years. Converting it to something else would take far more time and effort than I am willing to spend on our museum piece.

    Ok, a good argument for keeping it alive. But why use it at a /router/?

    4. My ISP would give me a new IP if ever I change the MAC address
    (from my XP router/server), and I don't want to go down that route
    again unless necessary.

    1) MAC address cloning takes care of that.

    2) How hard is it to change your IP address? If it is hard coded at more than half a dozen places, you are doing something wrong... If my address were to change, it would take me less than 5 minutes to update the DNS records..

    MvdV>> What type of tunnel do you have? AYIYA?

    No, it's a 6in4-static. And I want to keep it that way.

    My he.net tunnel is 6in4 static as well. I do not want to keep it that way. I want my ISP to give me native IPv6. ;-)

    MvdV>> It is my understanding that routing does not work with the
    MvdV>> Windows version.

    It works for me. But (obviously) IPv6 routing doesn't work as well
    as IPv4 does with XP.

    IPv6 is only partly implemented in XP. No DHCP6 and no IPv6 DNS lookup on OPv6 only DNS servers.

    MvdV>> Why don't you try my way? Flashing an old Linksys with a
    MvdV>> version of OpenWrt that supports IPv6. The how-to is all in the
    MvdV>> FidoNews articles (3) I wrote about it.

    Been there, tried that, got a brick to prove it. :)

    I can see why you are reluctant, to follow in my footsteps. In the meantime we are two years further down the road. SOHO routers that support IPv6 out of the box don't cost a fortune any more.

    Nah, just kidding. As I said, it's all about being able to
    administer the firewall in a user friendly way. I'm now to old to get
    back to the old MS-DOS variant of administering things, I want a GUI.

    You could consider spending a few bucks on a new router. IMHO the best routers are still boxes that are dedicated to do just that: being a router.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Sat Nov 30 01:37:31 2013
    Hello BjФrn,

    On Friday November 29 2013 22:38, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> What I am still hoping for is IPv6 support for Irex. Perhaps if
    MvdV>> we all started nagging Charles about releasing the source? ....

    Don't hold your breath.

    Better not indeed...

    I've been nagging JoHo for more than a decade now about releasing the source for FrontDoor, that could easily have been converted to a fully fledged Windows program, but to no avail.

    I tried the same for InterMail and Allfix. Hopeless...

    Those old guys obviously don't want anyone to show that their
    product could be made even better...?

    Maybe they don't want to others to see the "spaghetti index" of their code...

    But it is not always hopeless. Fmail is open source now...


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Sat Nov 30 01:46:44 2013
    Hello BjФrn,

    On Friday November 29 2013 22:54, you wrote to you:

    I've been fully IPv6 functional *outwards* for three years now.

    How times fly. It's almost five years now. To be exact, since:

    2009-02-11 05:34:22 UTC

    I tried to see since when my sixxs tunnel is alive, but the SixXs website is unavailable at the moment...


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Bj├╖rn Felten on Sat Nov 30 04:39:16 2013
    Hello BjЎrn!

    29 Nov 2013 19:42, BjЎrn Felten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    2. The linux world will come up with a firewall administrative tool that's as easy to use as the one in Win XP.

    lol

    http://soekris.eu/

    both ipv4 and ipv6 of shorewall is needed installed on soekris, recommend a small harddisk, not a small cfcard, use the cfcard for install image on the harddisk, not reversed, i recommend the gentoo as router distro, if you get one of the gigabit soekris then you are more then ever ready to power fidonet :)

    if no cfcard, then boot sysresquecd and start the pxe server on it, now boot the soekris via pxe

    more problems ?

    ----- shorewall begins -----
    [I] net-firewall/shorewall
    Available versions: 4.5.18 (~)4.5.18-r1 (~)4.5.19 (~)4.5.21.2 {doc}
    Installed versions: 4.5.21.2(02:25:24 27-10-2013)(-doc)
    Homepage: http://www.shorewall.net/
    Description: The Shoreline Firewall, commonly known as Shorewall, is a high-level tool for configuring Netfilter.

    ----- shorewall ends -----

    ----- shorewall6 begins -----
    * net-firewall/shorewall6
    Available versions: 4.5.18 ~4.5.18-r1 ~4.5.19 ~4.5.21.2 {doc}
    Homepage: http://www.shorewall.net/
    Description: The Shoreline Firewall, commonly known as Shorewall, IPv6 component.

    ----- shorewall6 ends -----

    last resort would be to get a linode.com vps :)

    thay using XEN all users gets i7 8cores, if you choice to get linode its important you recompile ALL on the initial setup, for whats installed, fail to do this it will fail for ever


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Bj├╖rn Felten on Sat Nov 30 04:53:50 2013
    Hello BjЎrn!

    29 Nov 2013 21:34, BjЎrn Felten wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    You might want to check back from the beginning of this echo (every posted message available on my JamNNTPd server, see origin line).

    the router needs to make ipv6 lan, if it does not, then you are stock as you see, only the router can have ipv6 wan, and this would be what wan users like to see port 24554 listen on :)

    this is the minimal as a start, but since ipv6 is not natted, then you can get all lan computers wan ipv6 aswell, but the router needs to forward that trafik in routes

    I've been fully IPv6 functional *outwards* for three years now.
    It's the incoming connections that I can't get sorted out with the present Win XP system as router.

    its just me that dont know where you have the problem really, all i know in xp is that it works with teredo ipv6 setup, but this is dynamic ipv6, not static

    http://test-ipv6.com/

    that page properly just see you router have working ipv6, not ipv6 lan


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Nov 30 05:01:10 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    29 Nov 2013 21:01, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to BjЎrn Felten:

    MvdV> What I am still hoping for is IPv6 support for Irex. Perhaps if we
    MvdV> all started nagging Charles about releasing the source? ....

    with is imho /dev/null'ed, another reason to make opensources

    speaking of irex, it could be solved with a socks5 proxy, making ipv6 to ipv4 server in irex

    imho if irex using socks5 it can do outgoing ipv6 aswell ?, no code changes for stable irex, hehe


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Bj├╖rn Felten on Sat Nov 30 05:05:42 2013
    Hello BjЎrn!

    29 Nov 2013 22:29, BjЎrn Felten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> Why do you use XP as a router?

    1. It's the most stable OS that I have ever tried.

    and you have tryed freebsd 4.9 installed via 2 1440kb floppy disks ?

    2. It has the most simple and flexible administration of the
    firewall that I know of.

    why does it not work then ? :=)

    3. It has all the remains of all my old computers, including all
    the fidonet stuff, with loads of MS-DOS programs developed and tweaked for more than 20 years. Converting it to something else would take far more time and effort than I am willing to spend on our museum piece.

    you could opload it to a Dropbox ?, what is the total file space used ?, if you need harddisk space i have 5.7TB free harddisk space on my zyxel nas still

    4. My ISP would give me a new IP if ever I change the MAC address (from my XP router/server), and I don't want to go down that route
    again unless necessary.

    you might use that mac in your new router

    MvdV>> What type of tunnel do you have? AYIYA?

    No, it's a 6in4-static. And I want to keep it that way.

    oh :)

    MvdV>> It is my understanding that routing does not work with the Windows
    MvdV>> version.

    It works for me. But (obviously) IPv6 routing doesn't work as well
    as IPv4 does with XP.

    correct, ipv6 was not stable in xp, it was more or less alpha stage of testing

    MvdV>> Why don't you try my way? Flashing an old Linksys with a version of
    MvdV>> OpenWrt that supports IPv6. The how-to is all in the FidoNews
    MvdV>> articles (3) I wrote about it.

    Been there, tried that, got a brick to prove it. :)

    +1

    Nah, just kidding. As I said, it's all about being able to
    administer the firewall in a user friendly way.

    and maillist support is not of any use ?

    I'm now to old to get
    back to the old MS-DOS variant of administering things, I want a GUI.

    yea right, you get what you are asking for then

    note that there is a GUI for shorewall but its not supported, developpers would just ask you to send them "shorewall dump" and "shorewall6 dump" in a zip file

    then you get competent help back, free of charge btw

    try calling microsoft and ask about help with xp now, here in danmark you will have to pay 400 kr plus moms, for the first hour, and thay do not garenti it would be fixed or resolved in that hour


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Sat Nov 30 09:57:38 2013
    Hello BjФrn,

    On Friday November 29 2013 21:34, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    http://test-ipv6.com/

    That one doesn't work any more.

    Site configuration issue: bad or missing/site/config.js

    I fouund this one: http://ipv6-test.com but it does not give as much detail about the ipv6 connection as Jason Fesler's site used to do. But it has other gadgets llike a speed test compare and website test.

    and also: http://ip6.nl

    For felten.yi.org it reports: "Cooul not fetch doamain data for felten.yi.org"

    But it does that for every host name I enter, so I guess it is a problem with the site itself.


    And last but not least: http://ipv6-speedtest.net

    It used to work until I removed Java from my system....


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Benny Pedersen on Sat Nov 30 10:11:46 2013
    Hello Benny,

    On Friday November 29 2013 20:53, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> If you do not support incoming IPv6 over binkp, then the host
    MvdV>> name advertised in the nodelist should not have an AAAA record.
    MvdV>> If you want other applications to be reacheable via IPv6, you
    MvdV>> should use a differeny host name for that than the one in the
    MvdV>> nodelist used for binkp.

    glibc have default ipv4 first,

    Silly Linux guys ;-)

    Well, then here is where we have an example where microsoft does a better job. The normal priorities are:

    If the target has an AAAA record try IPv6 first.
    Unless the IPv6 is via Teredo, then try IPv4 first.


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Bj├╢rn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Nov 30 11:19:13 2013
    http://test-ipv6.com/

    MvdV> That one doesn't work any more.

    Works for me. But it's in Swedish, so maybe it only works from a Swedish IP?

    MvdV> I fouund this one: http://ipv6-test.com but it does not give as much
    MvdV> detail about the ipv6 connection as Jason Fesler's site used to do. But
    MvdV> it has other gadgets llike a speed test compare and website test.

    This one has been rather useful to me:

    http://www.wiberg.nu/ipv6/iptools.php

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Bj├╖rn Felten on Sat Nov 30 09:06:52 2013
    Hello BjЎrn!

    Nov 29 19:42 2013, BjЎrn Felten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> Good. Or maybe not.. If felten.yi.org also han an AAAA record
    MvdV>> attached and indeed it does, then your nodelist entries advertise a
    MvdV>> method of connection that you do not actually support.

    I beg to differ. AFAIK nothing in my nodelist entry says anything about IPv6 capability.

    Are you sure? ;-)

    $ host felten.yi.org
    felten.yi.org has address 90.231.158.147
    felten.yi.org has IPv6 address 2001:16d8:ff00:306::2

    That's what the mailer gets when it resolves the FQDN.

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Nov 30 09:42:06 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    Nov 29 20:57 2013, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to BjЎrn Felten:

    Same here I have two tunnels running. One from SuxSx
    MvdV> ^
    MvdV> That was an honest typo. Not at all meant to denigrate SixXs. I
    MvdV> have a problem with Jeroen Massaar's attitude, but the service he
    MvdV> provides is outstanding, so I forgive him.

    You got that typo right :-) When I requested a tunnel from them they rejected my request because the forward and reverse mapping of my MXs aren't exactly the same. In one of their FAQs they say that they want to make sure that you got a valid email address. My email address works great for 15 years now! WTF! And SixXS is offering an email address for problems with the tunnel request but wasn't to be bothered to respond to my emails. SuxXS is absolutely the correct name!

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Nov 30 12:39:45 2013
    Hi,

    On 2013-11-30 10:11:46, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Benny Pedersen:
    about: "IPv6":

    glibc have default ipv4 first,

    MvdV> Silly Linux guys ;-)

    MvdV> Well, then here is where we have an example where microsoft does a better
    MvdV> job. The normal priorities are:

    MvdV> If the target has an AAAA record try IPv6 first.
    MvdV> Unless the IPv6 is via Teredo, then try IPv4 first.

    I don't know if binkd uses glibc for this. But on my linux system, binkd always uses the IPv6 address first...

    Bye, Wilfred.


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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Nov 30 16:43:16 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    30 Nov 13 10:11, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    glibc have default ipv4 first,

    MvdV> Silly Linux guys ;-)

    Probably the guys of his distribution.

    MvdV> Well, then here is where we have an example where microsoft does a
    MvdV> better job. The normal priorities are:

    MvdV> If the target has an AAAA record try IPv6 first.
    MvdV> Unless the IPv6 is via Teredo, then try IPv4 first.

    I was not aware of the gai.conf file and my system runs the defaults for
    adress resolution. It connects to IPv6 first and if that does not work,
    it connects to the IPv4 adress.

    Kees

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Nov 30 16:25:58 2013
    Hello Wilfred!

    Nov 30 12:39 2013, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> If the target has an AAAA record try IPv6 first.
    MvdV>> Unless the IPv6 is via Teredo, then try IPv4 first.

    I don't know if binkd uses glibc for this. But on my linux system,
    binkd always uses the IPv6 address first...

    The resolving is done by calling getaddrinfo() which supports IPv4 and IPv6 addresses. The output list can be controlled with /etc/gai-conf. In my case I prefer IPv4 for outgoing connections because my IPv6 connectivity is based on a tunnel (latency, overhead). The default is to prefer IPv6 if available.

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Markus Reschke on Sat Nov 30 17:41:01 2013
    Hi,

    On 2013-11-30 16:25:58, Markus Reschke wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
    about: "Re: IPv6":

    MvdV>>> If the target has an AAAA record try IPv6 first.
    MvdV>>> Unless the IPv6 is via Teredo, then try IPv4 first.

    I don't know if binkd uses glibc for this. But on my linux system,
    binkd always uses the IPv6 address first...

    The resolving is done by calling getaddrinfo() which supports IPv4 and IPv6
    addresses. The output list can be controlled with /etc/gai-conf. In my case
    I prefer IPv4 for outgoing connections because my IPv6 connectivity is based on a tunnel (latency, overhead). The default is to prefer IPv6 if available.

    The /etc/gai.conf on my system is the default as provided by the distribution. It only contains 3 non commented out lines regarding private IPv4 address scope... I have native IPv6, so the default is find for me. ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.


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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Nov 30 19:38:20 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    29 Nov 13 18:43, you wrote to BjЎrn Felten:

    MvdV> connection that you do not actually support. The is - as some would say
    MvdV> - detrimental to the smooth opeartion of the network. Why? Because this
    MvdV> way you make it harder for Kees, Wilfred and Andrew to connect to your
    MvdV> system. If their mailers go by the information in the nodelist, their
    MvdV> mailers will first try to connect via IPv6. That will fail. Presumably
    MvdV> the mailers will eventually try IPv4, but that may take considerable
    MvdV> time depending on the exact configuration. It could be minutes...

    Yes shure. !!

    + 30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310] call to 2:203/0@fidonet
    30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310] trying felten.yi.org [2001:16d8:ff00:306::2]...
    ? 30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310] connection to 2:203/0@fidonet failed: Connection refused
    30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310] trying felten.yi.org [90.231.158.147]...
    30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310] connected
    + 30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310] outgoing session with 90.231.158.147

    This is a real delay. Binkd really has a hard time here.


    Kees

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Nov 30 12:14:51 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    Friday November 29 2013 12:03, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Andrew Leary:

    MvdV> If this situation is permanent, rather than just a experiment, I
    MvdV> suggest that instead of separate host names for IPv4 and IPv6, you use
    MvdV> separate host names for the different systems. Example: Use bnbbbs.net
    MvdV> for 320/119 and phoenix.bnbbbs.net for 320/219. Attach just an A
    MvdV> record to bnbbbbs.net and both the A and AAAA records to
    MvdV> phoenix.bnbbbs.net

    This has been setup; the changes should make the next nodelist.

    MvdV> The only snag is that in that case, you'd have to make the ipv6 part
    MvdV> listen on port 24555 instead of 24554.

    This is a simple matter of editing /etc/services; it should be all set now.

    MvdV> A third solution would be to add an extra node number - say 320/319
    MvdV> for the IPv6 experiment and list it with an INO4 flag to signal no
    MvdV> IPv4.

    I see little need for an extra node number when with the change above, everything should end up on the proper system.

    MvdV> But the "grand" solution of course is to enable IPv6 for your other
    MvdV> system as well...;-)

    I doubt that will ever happen, unless I get rid of OS/2.

    Andrew

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Nov 30 21:10:20 2013
    Hello Wilfred!

    30 Nov 2013 17:41, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Markus Reschke:

    The /etc/gai.conf on my system is the default as provided by the distribution. It only contains 3 non commented out lines regarding private IPv4 address scope... I have native IPv6, so the default is
    find for me. ;)

    please note that any uncommented lines is non default in this file, but it depends on what version of glibc, and how its compiled, i can only talk for gentoo, not the whole world of problems :)

    here is what i have:

    ----- glibc begins -----
    [I] sys-libs/glibc
    Available versions: (2.2) ~2.9_p20081201-r3^s 2.10.1-r1^s 2.11.3^s ~2.12.1-r3^s 2.12.2^s ~2.13-r2^s 2.13-r4^s ~2.14^s ~2.14.1-r2^s 2.14.1-r3^s ~2.15-r1^s 2.15-r2^s 2.15-r3^s 2.16.0^s ~2.17^s **2.18^s **9999^s
    {debug gd hardened multilib nscd profile selinux suid systemtap vanilla CROSSCOMPILE_OPTS="headers-only"}
    Installed versions: 2.16.0(2.2)^s(11:47:08 29-11-2013)(-debug -gd -hardened -multilib -profile -selinux -suid -systemtap -vanilla CROSSCOMPILE_OPTS="-headers-only")
    Homepage: http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/libc.html
    Description: GNU libc6 (also called glibc2) C library

    ----- glibc ends -----

    note compile time/date


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Kees van Eeten on Sat Nov 30 23:26:05 2013
    Hello Kees,

    On Saturday November 30 2013 19:38, you wrote to me:

    + 30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310] call to 2:203/0@fidonet
    30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310] trying felten.yi.org
    [2001:16d8:ff00:306::2]... ? 30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310] connection to 2:203/0@fidonet failed: Connection refused 30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310]
    trying felten.yi.org [90.231.158.147]... 30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310]
    connected + 30 Nov 19:35:00 [2310] outgoing session with
    90.231.158.147

    This is a real delay. Binkd really has a hard time here.

    Hmmm... this is not what I expected. I expected binkd to keep trying until the configured time out. It is what Irex does...

    But... of course.. BjФrn's firewall is not configured to forward port 24554 on IPv6. So that explains the almost instantaneous "connection refused".

    So in this case it is quite harmless.

    Nevertheless, I think it is wrong to advertise a method of connection that one does not actually support.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Andrew Leary on Sat Nov 30 23:34:08 2013
    Hello Andrew,

    On Saturday November 30 2013 12:14, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> IPv6, you use separate host names for the different systems.
    MvdV>> Example: Use bnbbbs.net for 320/119 and phoenix.bnbbbs.net for
    MvdV>> 320/219. Attach just an A record to bnbbbbs.net and both the A
    MvdV>> and AAAA records to phoenix.bnbbbs.net

    This has been setup; the changes should make the next nodelist.

    Ok...

    MvdV>> A third solution would be to add an extra node number - say
    MvdV>> 320/319 for the IPv6 experiment and list it with an INO4 flag
    MvdV>> to signal no IPv4.

    I see little need for an extra node number when with the change above, everything should end up on the proper system.

    Indeed. We shal test it ASAP.

    MvdV>> But the "grand" solution of course is to enable IPv6 for your
    MvdV>> other system as well...;-)

    I doubt that will ever happen, unless I get rid of OS/2.

    You will. Eventually.. ;-)


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Benny Pedersen on Sat Nov 30 23:36:22 2013
    Hello Benny,

    On Saturday November 30 2013 05:01, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> What I am still hoping for is IPv6 support for Irex. Perhaps if
    MvdV>> we all started nagging Charles about releasing the source? ....

    with is imho /dev/null'ed, another reason to make opensources

    Whishing for an open source replacement for Irex is even more wishful thinking...

    speaking of irex, it could be solved with a socks5 proxy, making ipv6
    to ipv4 server in irex

    So go ahead: write the proxy...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Sat Nov 30 23:38:09 2013
    Hello BjФrn,

    On Saturday November 30 2013 11:19, you wrote to me:

    This one has been rather useful to me:

    http://www.wiberg.nu/ipv6/iptools.php

    Tnx. I added it to my favourites under IPv6.


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Dec 1 00:28:54 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    30 Nov 13 23:26, you wrote to me:

    MvdV> Hmmm... this is not what I expected. I expected binkd to keep trying
    MvdV> until the configured time out. It is what Irex does...

    You cannot compare with Irex, it does not support IPV6.

    MvdV> But... of course.. BjЎrn's firewall is not configured to forward
    MvdV> port
    MvdV> 24554 on IPv6. So that explains the almost instantaneous "connection
    MvdV> refused".

    Yes if it did forward, a port would answer, so waht is ypur point?.

    MvdV> So in this case it is quite harmless.

    Indeed.

    MvdV> Nevertheless, I think it is wrong to advertise a method of
    MvdV> connection that one does not actually support.

    DNS is not Fidonet.

    Kees

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Dec 1 00:33:56 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    30 Nov 13 23:36, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    speaking of irex, it could be solved with a socks5 proxy, making ipv6
    to ipv4 server in irex

    MvdV> So go ahead: write the proxy...

    It is probably available for your WRT linux in your router.

    Kees

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Markus Reschke on Sun Dec 1 00:06:09 2013
    Hello Markus,

    On Saturday November 30 2013 09:42, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> That was an honest typo. Not at all meant to denigrate SixXs. I
    MvdV>> have a problem with Jeroen Massaar's attitude, but the service
    MvdV>> he provides is outstanding, so I forgive him.

    You got that typo right :-) When I requested a tunnel from them they rejected my request because the forward and reverse mapping of my MXs aren't exactly the same.

    Yeah, typical...

    In one of their FAQs they say that they want to make sure that you got
    a valid email address. My email address works great for 15 years now!
    WTF! And SixXS is offering an email address for problems with the
    tunnel request but wasn't to be bothered to respond to my emails.
    SuxXS is absolutely the correct name!

    Yes they make you jump through hoops and the process cam be annoying. Once you get past that, they offer a stable and reliable service.

    he.net is much more lenient. No hoops to jump through, but they only offer 6in4 static. You need a (semi) static globally unique IPv4 for that...


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)
  • From Bj├╢rn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Dec 1 01:34:07 2013
    MvdV> Yes they make you jump through hoops and the process cam be annoying.

    I probably was fortunate then, I've never had any problems with any of my three tunnels.

    Yes, Jeroen can be an arrogant SOB -- I've had several clashes with him in the support forum -- but then again, he's giving the world a free service, that's outstanding.

    MvdV> Once you get past that, they offer a stable and reliable service.

    Absolutely. The end servers for Sweden are operated by Bahnhof -- the best ISP we have. E.g. they never give out consumer data to the media industry. Even when ordered to do so by our courts they fight the decision all the way through our system to the highest level.

    They will never give NSA, GCHQ or any other snooping agency access to their fibres. And they run by far the fastest network in Sweden, never overbooked.

    In short, I'm extremely happy with the service that Jeroen is providing, and impressed that he choose Bahnhof for the end of the Swedish tunnels. That shows that he really knows what he's doing IMHO.

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Nov 30 21:49:16 2013

    Hello Michiel!

    01 Dec 13 00:06, you wrote to Markus Reschke:

    Yes they make you jump through hoops and the process cam be annoying.
    Once you get past that, they offer a stable and reliable service.

    Yes, this has been my experience as well.

    he.net is much more lenient. No hoops to jump through, but they only
    offer 6in4 static. You need a (semi) static globally unique IPv4 for that...

    Right. 6in4 static also doesn't traverse NAT routers very well, unless they specifically support it. My old ZyWALL 35 doesn't, so I ended up using a sixxs.net AYIYA tunnel. Once I upgrade to a new router that supports IPv6, I will probably switch to a 6in4 static tunnel until such time as my ISP deploys native IPv6.

    Andrew


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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Dec 1 06:50:18 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    30 Nov 2013 23:36, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    MvdV> Whishing for an open source replacement for Irex is even more
    MvdV> wishful thinking...

    +1

    MvdV> So go ahead: write the proxy...

    ----- dante begins -----
    * net-proxy/dante
    Available versions: 1.1.19-r4 ~1.3.2 ~1.3.2-r1 ~1.4.0_pre1 ~1.4.0_pre1-r1 {debug kerberos pam selinux static-libs tcpd}
    Homepage: http://www.inet.no/dante/
    Description: A free socks4,5 and msproxy implementation

    ----- dante ends -----

    already done

    and btw xinetd can forward ipv6 to ipv4 lan, if hostnames is used in irex config then outgoing is working aswell to ipv6 servers, even binkd can call ipv6 servers via squid proxy, if ipv6 was not ready natively in it


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Dec 1 06:56:34 2013
    Hello Kees!

    01 Dec 2013 00:28, Kees van Eeten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    You cannot compare with Irex, it does not support IPV6.

    with proxy it does :)

    even with inetd if it can redirect connections, i think it could even be iptable line :=)

    MvdV>> But... of course.. BjЎrn's firewall is not configured to forward
    MvdV>> port 24554 on IPv6. So that explains the almost instantaneous "connection
    MvdV>> refused".

    +1, he have working ipv6 wan, but still no ipv6 lan

    Yes if it did forward, a port would answer, so waht is ypur point?.

    +1, its okay to forward to a listner that does not listen :=)

    MvdV>> So in this case it is quite harmless.
    Indeed.

    +1

    MvdV>> Nevertheless, I think it is wrong to advertise a method of
    MvdV>> connection that one does not actually support.
    DNS is not Fidonet.

    irelevant, since i see more example on loose of incorrect dns, then its not fidonet :=)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Dec 1 07:02:56 2013
    Hello Kees!

    01 Dec 2013 00:33, Kees van Eeten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    It is probably available for your WRT linux in your router.

    or soekris running with shorewall/shorewall6, the linksys is more for teknican people not suited for swedish nodes :=)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Benny Pedersen on Sun Dec 1 11:26:16 2013
    Hello Benny!

    01 Dec 13 07:02, you wrote to me:

    It is probably available for your WRT linux in your router.

    or soekris running with shorewall/shorewall6, the linksys is more for teknican people not suited for swedish nodes :=)

    I will leave that judgement to you, I was addressing a Dutch node ;)

    Kees

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Benny Pedersen on Sun Dec 1 11:32:38 2013
    Hello Benny!

    01 Dec 13 06:56, you wrote to me:

    You cannot compare with Irex, it does not support IPV6.

    with proxy it does :)

    even with inetd if it can redirect connections, i think it could even be iptable line :=)

    Addresssing random outgoing traffic could be a challenge.

    MvdV>>> But... of course.. BjЎrn's firewall is not configured to forward
    MvdV>>> port 24554 on IPv6. So that explains the almost instantaneous
    MvdV>>> "connection refused".

    +1, he have working ipv6 wan, but still no ipv6 lan

    I do not know how his network infratructure is organised, and I think it
    would be unwise to publish it.

    irelevant, since i see more example on loose of incorrect dns, then its not fidonet :=)

    Last year, when I made a survey of IPv6 nodes, there were a number of nodes,
    that presented an IPv6 address, but did not respond to a binkd connection
    request.

    Kees

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Dec 1 14:33:40 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    Dec 01 00:06 2013, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Markus Reschke:

    MvdV> he.net is much more lenient. No hoops to jump through, but they
    MvdV> only offer 6in4 static. You need a (semi) static globally unique
    MvdV> IPv4 for that...

    They got an interface to update the endpoint IPv4 address, similar to dynDNS. OpenWRT has built-in support for that ;-)

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Dec 1 21:27:10 2013
    Hello Kees!

    01 Dec 2013 11:26, Kees van Eeten wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    or soekris running with shorewall/shorewall6, the linksys is more for
    teknican people not suited for swedish nodes :=)

    I will leave that judgement to you, I was addressing a Dutch node ;)

    haha, even a dutch could use it as well, if longer vacations is wanted :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Dec 1 21:28:40 2013
    Hello Kees!

    01 Dec 2013 11:32, Kees van Eeten wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Addresssing random outgoing traffic could be a challenge.

    thats why i prefer snat with squid :=)

    binkd + proxy is nice example on how it could be done

    I do not know how his network infratructure is organised, and I
    think it would be unwise to publish it.

    even if its big, it could be a simple solution

    Last year, when I made a survey of IPv6 nodes, there were a number
    of nodes, that presented an IPv6 address, but did not respond to a binkd connection request.

    that was last year :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Kees van Eeten on Mon Dec 2 13:08:26 2013
    Hello Kees,

    On Sunday December 01 2013 00:33, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> So go ahead: write the proxy...

    It is probably available for your WRT linux in your router.

    Possibly. It is a limited Linux implementation. If this proxy is part of it, I have no idea how the activate it...

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Dec 2 16:14:16 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    02 Dec 2013 13:08, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Kees van Eeten:

    MvdV> Possibly. It is a limited Linux implementation. If this proxy is
    MvdV> part of it, I have no idea how the activate it...

    what problem ?, even apache proxy can resolve lost source code of irex :)

    but it takes time to understand binkp protocol first, and then why and how apache can help :)

    remember when proxy is in ipv6 wan, it can direct it to ipv4, lan or wan does not matter if there is a listner on that ip

    outgoing is just a source nat rule in firewall


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Tue Dec 3 16:16:34 2013
    Hello BjФrn,

    On Sunday December 01 2013 01:34, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> Yes they make you jump through hoops and the process can be
    MvdV>> annoying.

    I probably was fortunate then, I've never had any problems

    The problem I had and still have is that I never could make my XP machine work as a router for the /48 subnet associated with my AYIYA tunnel. I eventually discoverd the paragraph in the manual tat says it does not work with Windows.

    So I choose another path and that does not invole a SixXs tunnel. I keep it runningm but all it does is accumulate ISKs...

    with any of my three tunnels.

    Why three? You said you had e 6in4. As I understand it, one can only run one 6in4 tunnel endpoint per uniwue global IP44 address. So how about tge other two?

    Yes, Jeroen can be an arrogant SOB -- I've had several clashes with
    him in the support forum --

    So did I. I was told to RTFM. He could have just told me that rouring a subnet with windows doe not work, but he just told me to RTFM. He didn't eben bother to point me to the relevant section.

    Eventually I found it. in an assendum by the bane of "what does not work" or something to that effect. It is a mystery to me why someone would go the effort of giving detailed instructions on how to make it work end then burry the announcement tyat it does not work 15 pages down in the manual...

    but then again, he's giving the world a free service, that's
    outstanding.

    I could not reach their website during thew hole weekend.

    MvdV>> Once you get past that, they offer a stable and reliable
    MvdV>> service.

    Absolutely. The end servers for Sweden are operated by Bahnhof --
    the best ISP we have.

    Here we have a choice of five POPs. I choose BIT because the are close - bith physically end ping wise, I have seen there server park form inside and one of the bosses there was a Fidonet sysop.

    E.g. they never give out consumer data to the media industry.

    I would not be so sure.

    Even when ordered to do so by our courts they fight the decision all
    the way through our system to the highest level.

    Ans they might loose or go brole in the process...

    They will never give NSA, GCHQ or any other snooping agency access
    to their fibres.

    And if they would they would not tell lest they loose their US cutomers,,,

    In short, I'm extremely happy with the service that Jeroen is providing, and impressed that he choose Bahnhof for the end of the
    Swedish tunnels. That shows that he really knows what he's doing IMHO.

    It is all volunteer work. he can onlu choose between thos that volunteer to run a POP.

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Andrew Leary on Tue Dec 3 17:22:49 2013
    Hello Andrew,

    On Saturday November 30 2013 21:49, you wrote to me:

    he.net is much more lenient. No hoops to jump through, but they
    only offer 6in4 static. You need a (semi) static globally unique
    IPv4 for that...

    Right. 6in4 static also doesn't traverse NAT routers very well,
    unless they specifically support it. My old ZyWALL 35 doesn't,

    My ICIDU did not support it either,

    so I ended up using a sixxs.net AYIYA tunnel.

    And then I found out, I could not make it rout a subnet....

    And so I decided on another road. I went for a router that coud handle the tunnel end point for me. OpenWRT on a Linksys WRT54g

    Once I upgrade to a new router that supports IPv6, I will probably
    switch to a 6in4 static tunnel until such time as my ISP deploys
    native IPv6.

    I have alreay taken that step two years ago. Now I wait for native IPv6 from my ISP. They do not seem to be in a hurry... :-(


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Benny Pedersen on Tue Dec 3 17:27:16 2013
    Hello Benny,

    On Sunday December 01 2013 06:50, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> So go ahead: write the proxy...

    ----- dante begins -----
    * net-proxy/dante
    Available versions: 1.1.19-r4 ~1.3.2 ~1.3.2-r1 ~1.4.0_pre1 ~1.4.0_pre1-r1 {debug kerberos pam selinux static-libs tcpd}
    Homepage: http://www.inet.no/dante/
    Description: A free socks4,5 and msproxy implementation

    ----- dante ends -----

    already done

    I wish I could say it is all Greek to me. Because in that case, I could call upon my private Greek translator. As it is, have no idea what to do with this...

    and btw xinetd can forward ipv6 to ipv4 lan, if hostnames is used in
    irex config then outgoing is working aswell to ipv6 servers, even
    binkd can call ipv6 servers via squid proxy, if ipv6 was not ready natively in it

    Chinese to me...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Markus Reschke on Tue Dec 3 17:30:46 2013
    Hello Markus,

    On Sunday December 01 2013 14:33, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> he.net is much more lenient. No hoops to jump through, but they
    MvdV>> only offer 6in4 static. You need a (semi) static globally
    MvdV>> unique IPv4 for that...

    They got an interface to update the endpoint IPv4 address,

    6in4 with heartbeat?

    similar to dynDNS. OpenWRT has built-in support for that ;-)

    Problem is that I am not well educated on Linux in general and OpenWrt in particular. What can be found on the internet seems to suffer from the old problem that maps are always made by people that already know the way. They take too much for granted.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Kees van Eeten on Tue Dec 3 18:08:28 2013
    Hello Kees,

    On Sunday December 01 2013 00:28, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> Nevertheless, I think it is wrong to advertise a method of
    MvdV>> connection that one does not actually support.

    DNS is not Fidonet.

    The telephone system is not Fidonet either. But advertising a telephone number in the nodelist that does answer with a mdem, is also considered wrong.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Kees van Eeten on Tue Dec 3 18:12:34 2013
    Hello Kees,

    On Sunday December 01 2013 11:32, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Last year, when I made a survey of IPv6 nodes, there were a number of nodes, that presented an IPv6 address, but did not respond to a binkd connection request.

    Advertising more than one can deliver is as old as advertising. Does not make it right.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Dec 3 21:43:30 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    Dec 03 17:30 2013, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Markus Reschke:

    They got an interface to update the endpoint IPv4 address,

    MvdV> 6in4 with heartbeat?

    Without timeout, just for updating.

    similar to dynDNS. OpenWRT has built-in support for that ;-)

    MvdV> Problem is that I am not well educated on Linux in general and
    MvdV> OpenWrt in particular. What can be found on the internet seems to
    MvdV> suffer from the old problem that maps are always made by people
    MvdV> that already know the way. They take too much for granted.

    It isn't linux specific, it's just a simple script run after reconnecting the internet access. It takes the new WAN IPv4 address and updates the tunnel endpoint at he.net. That could be done by most script languages. And the script may also be run on your PC.

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Markus Reschke on Wed Dec 4 00:46:21 2013
    Hello Markus,

    On Tuesday December 03 2013 21:43, you wrote to me:

    They got an interface to update the endpoint IPv4 address,

    MvdV>> 6in4 with heartbeat?

    Without timeout, just for updating.

    So it is not the same as the 6in4 + heartbeat from SixXs.

    I never bothered to delve into the details because I don't need it. Technically I have a dynamic IPv4 address, but it has not changed in three years. It only changes when the MAC address presented to the WAN changes. I even get the old one back when I reЛnstall the old MAC address before the lease time has expired. For all intents and purpose it is a static adres.

    That may change in the future. I will cross that bridge when I get to it...

    It isn't linux specific, it's just a simple script run after
    reconnecting the internet access. It takes the new WAN IPv4 address
    and updates the tunnel endpoint at he.net. That could be done by most script languages. And the script may also be run on your PC.

    Much the same like the tool I got from Eurodns, the DNS provider where vlist.eu is hosted. I installed it and removed it again because its five minute updates were just creating needless clutter on my screen.

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Dec 3 18:22:57 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    Tuesday December 03 2013 17:22, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Andrew Leary:

    so I ended up using a sixxs.net AYIYA tunnel.

    MvdV> And then I found out, I could not make it rout a subnet....

    The information I got from sixxs.net says that I have a routed /64 subnet; I haven't tried setting up anything on that yet.

    MvdV> And so I decided on another road. I went for a router that coud
    MvdV> handle
    MvdV> the tunnel end point for me. OpenWRT on a Linksys WRT54g

    When I do upgrade, I'm going to switch to something with gigabit ethernet support. I have done a little looking into what routers have IPv6 support or can have it added by flashing to alternative firmware.

    Once I upgrade to a new router that supports IPv6, I will
    probably switch to a 6in4 static tunnel until such time as my ISP
    deploys native IPv6.

    MvdV> I have alreay taken that step two years ago. Now I wait for native
    MvdV> IPv6 from my ISP. They do not seem to be in a hurry... :-(

    Most ISPs aren't (yet.)

    Andrew

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Andrew Leary on Wed Dec 4 11:42:49 2013
    Hello Andrew,

    On Tuesday December 03 2013 18:22, you wrote to me:

    so I ended up using a sixxs.net AYIYA tunnel.

    MvdV>> And then I found out, I could not make it route a subnet....

    The information I got from sixxs.net says that I have a routed /64
    subnet;

    When I applied for a tunnel, they did not give you a /64 subnet with it. I applied for and got a /48 subnet.

    I haven't tried setting up anything on that yet.

    A subnet is useless unless you can have it routed into your LAN. So that other machines on your LAN get public IPv6 addresses in the subnet's range. I could not make that work with the AYIYA tunnel that ended on an XP machine. Jeroen Massaar was not helpful and I could not find anyone else either that had made it work.

    I finally gave up and when the he.net + linksys route...

    MvdV>> And so I decided on another road. I went for a router that coud
    MvdV>> handle the tunnel end point for me. OpenWRT on a Linksys WRT54g

    When I do upgrade, I'm going to switch to something with gigabit
    ethernet support.

    A wise move. I will make that a high priority selection item when shopping for my next router

    I have done a little looking into what routers have IPv6 support or
    can have it added by flashing to alternative firmware.

    Already three years ago I decided that I would not no longer buy new network stuff that does not support IPv6.

    Once I upgrade to a new router that supports IPv6, I will
    probably switch to a 6in4 static tunnel until such time as my
    ISP deploys native IPv6.

    MvdV>> I have alreay taken that step two years ago. Now I wait for
    MvdV>> native IPv6 from my ISP. They do not seem to be in a hurry...
    MvdV>> :-(

    Most ISPs aren't (yet.)

    Unfortunately all but a very few are agonisingly slow. Mine (Ziggo) say they will start roll-out next year. They have been saying that for the last five years... :-(


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Dec 4 19:26:02 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    Dec 04 00:46 2013, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Markus Reschke:

    MvdV> I never bothered to delve into the details because I don't need it.
    MvdV> Technically I have a dynamic IPv4 address, but it has not changed
    MvdV> in three years. It only changes when the MAC address presented to
    MvdV> the WAN changes. I even get the old one back when I reяnstall the
    MvdV> old MAC address before the lease time has expired. For all intents
    MvdV> and purpose it is a static adres.

    Nice! I get a new IPv4 address every 24h. AFAIK that would change to 6 months if I switch to an All-IP service.

    MvdV> Much the same like the tool I got from Eurodns, the DNS provider
    MvdV> where vlist.eu is hosted. I installed it and removed it again
    MvdV> because its five minute updates were just creating needless clutter
    MvdV> on my screen.

    All that update stuff can be done by php, python, perl or whatever you prefer and run in the background without any GUI.

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Dec 4 14:02:32 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    Wednesday December 04 2013 11:42, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Andrew Leary:

    I haven't tried setting up anything on that yet.

    MvdV> A subnet is useless unless you can have it routed into your LAN. So
    MvdV> that other machines on your LAN get public IPv6 addresses in the
    MvdV> subnet's range. I could not make that work with the AYIYA tunnel that
    MvdV> ended on an XP machine. Jeroen Massaar was not helpful and I could not
    MvdV> find anyone else either that had made it work.

    My AYIYA tunnel ends on a Linux box, so I should be able to make it work. I just need to configure the addresses for each machine manually, unless I decide to play with setting up a DHCPv6 server.

    Andrew

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Andrew Leary on Wed Dec 4 21:28:44 2013
    Hello Andrew!

    04 Dec 13 14:02, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    My AYIYA tunnel ends on a Linux box, so I should be able to make it work. I just need to configure the addresses for each machine manually, unless I decide to play with setting up a DHCPv6 server.

    My IPv6 tunnel also end on a Linux. In principle radvd does some advertising
    on the network, but I do not think it works very well.
    The vserver on the same box and a workstation on the lan have static
    adresses. The other boxes do not make IPv6 connections and it is safer
    if they are not adressable from outside.

    Kees

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Markus Reschke on Thu Dec 5 01:05:15 2013
    Hello Markus,

    On Wednesday December 04 2013 19:26, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> For all intents and purpose it is a static adres.

    Nice! I get a new IPv4 address every 24h. AFAIK that would change to 6 months if I switch to an All-IP service.

    Most dsl operators here issue static IPs. The cable operators issue quasi static addresses like the one I have. "Real" static addresses are available on a business account.

    I never understood why ISPs force customers to change IP addresses. Dynamic addresses made sense in the early days of dial up lines when customers were on-line for a short time only and so they needed less IPs than they had customers. But with the coming of SOHO routers that were on line 24/7, they need one address per customer anyway. So why not give them out on a (semi) static basis?

    Anyway, I expect all this dynamic address hassle to die with IPv4. IPv6 addresses are static.

    MvdV>> Much the same like the tool I got from Eurodns, the DNS
    MvdV>> provider where vlist.eu is hosted. I installed it and removed
    MvdV>> it again because its five minute updates were just creating
    MvdV>> needless clutter on my screen.

    All that update stuff can be done by php, python, perl or whatever you prefer and run in the background without any GUI.

    I prefer the present situation with a semi static address, so I do not have to bother. ;-)


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Andrew Leary on Thu Dec 5 00:40:46 2013
    Hello Andrew,

    On Wednesday December 04 2013 14:02, you wrote to me:

    My AYIYA tunnel ends on a Linux box, so I should be able to make it
    work.

    Presumably...

    I just need to configure the addresses for each machine manually,

    Nono, there is no need for that. IPv6 has SLAAC (Stateless Address Auto Configuration) The router broadcasts router advertisements that tells the hosts on the LAN what the prefix is. The hosts make up the lower 64 bits from their MAC address. No need to configure anything on the other machines on your LAN.

    All my machines on the LAN get a globally unique IPv6 address automatically. But of course only a few are reacheable from the outside. The firewall blocks all unsollicited incoming IPv6 packets, just like a decently configured IPv4 router with NAT would do. But instead of forwarding ports, you punch holes for certain destination/port/protocol combination. You can ping6 my atlas probe *1) at atlas.vlist.eu because I opened the fiewall for an ICMP echo request destined for the associated IPv6 address. It can not be pinged over IPv4 because it has an RFC1918 address and Ping over IPv4 is not forwarded by the router.

    unless I decide to play with setting up a DHCPv6 server.

    That is an alternative for SLAAC. (Not supported by Win XP).

    *1) http://atlas.ripe.net


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Kees van Eeten on Thu Dec 5 00:59:53 2013
    Hello Kees,

    On Wednesday December 04 2013 21:28, you wrote to Andrew Leary:

    My IPv6 tunnel also end on a Linux. In principle radvd does some advertising on the network, but I do not think it works very well. The vserver on the same box and a workstation on the lan have
    static adresses. The other boxes do not make IPv6 connections and it
    is safer if they are not adressable from outside.

    That should not stop them from acquiring an IPv6 address. All that is needed is a firewall that blocks all unsollicited incoming IPv6 packets by default.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Dec 5 19:52:40 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    Dec 05 01:05 2013, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Markus Reschke:

    MvdV> I never understood why ISPs force customers to change IP addresses.
    MvdV> Dynamic addresses made sense in the early days of dial up lines
    MvdV> when customers were on-line for a short time only and so they
    MvdV> needed less IPs than they had customers. But with the coming of
    MvdV> SOHO routers that were on line 24/7, they need one address per
    MvdV> customer anyway. So why not give them out on a (semi) static basis?

    Basically there are two reasons for dynamic addresses. The first one is privacy. The common interpretation of our privacy laws enforces dynamic addresses, but we all know that cookies, web bugs and so on work great for tracking users. The argument is actually obsolete meanwhile. And the other reason is that ISPs can prevent private customers with inexpensive flat rates from offereing services. Sure, there are dynamic DNS services, but they are used mostly by more savvy users. That also enables ISPs to charge for fixed IP addresses. A more expensive business class DSL includes a stastic address.

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Dec 6 00:13:57 2013
    Hello Michiel!

    05 Dec 13 00:40, you wrote to me:

    Nono, there is no need for that. IPv6 has SLAAC (Stateless Address
    Auto Configuration) The router broadcasts router advertisements that
    tells the hosts on the LAN what the prefix is. The hosts make up the
    lower 64 bits from their MAC address. No need to configure anything on
    the other machines on your LAN.

    I had to set the IPv6 address of my Linux system's Ethernet connection manually; once I did that radvd takes care of the router advertisements, and a Windows 7 Ultimate laptop was able to SLAAC a working IPv6 address. In fact, it passes test-ipv6.com's test suite with a score of 10/10.

    I still need to cleanup my startup/shutdown scripts a bit, but it's working fine.

    Regards,

    Andrew


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Andrew Leary on Fri Dec 6 22:02:04 2013
    Hello Andrew,

    On Friday December 06 2013 00:13, you wrote to me:

    Address Auto Configuration) The router broadcasts router
    advertisements that tells the hosts on the LAN what the prefix
    is. The hosts make up the lower 64 bits from their MAC address.
    No need to configure anything on the other machines on your LAN.

    I had to set the IPv6 address of my Linux system's Ethernet connection
    manually;

    There is mechanism called prefix delegation, but I do not think neither he.net nor SixXs supports it, so indeed you have to configure that manually. Your side may not support it either.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prifix_delegation

    once I did that radvd takes care of the router advertisements, and a Windows 7 Ultimate laptop was able to SLAAC a working IPv6 address.

    As it should. Congratulations!

    In fact, it passes test-ipv6.com's test suite with a score of 10/10.

    I just get 9/10. What fails is the test for DNS over IPv6 only. My ISP's DNS servers are not reacheable via IPv6. No big deal, it will be a long time before that becomes an issue.

    I still need to cleanup my startup/shutdown scripts a bit, but it's working fine.

    Very good!

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Alexey Vissarionov on Fri May 16 09:23:03 2014
    Hi Alexey,

    On 2014-05-16 08:50:00, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    TWIMC: my node (2:5020/545) is finally reachable via native
    ${areatag}.

    Confirmed:

    + 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] call to 2:5020/545@fidonet
    16 May 05:33:10 [6708] trying fido.gremlin.ru [2a01:4f8:140:9ffb:900d:f001:dead:f001]...
    16 May 05:33:10 [6708] connected
    + 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] outgoing session with hren.tebe.ru [2a01:4f8:140:9ffb:900d:f001:dead:f001]
    - 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] OPT CRAM-MD5-9b96d55a2ec44dc66dc74193949637ee
    + 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] Remote requests MD mode
    - 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] SYS Fido.Gremlin.RU
    - 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] ZYZ Gremlin from Kremlin
    - 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] LOC Moscow, Russia
    - 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    - 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] TIME Fri, 16 May 2014 07:33:10 +0400
    - 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] VER binkd/1.1a-49/Linux binkp/1.1
    + 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] addr: 2:5020/545@fidonet
    + 16 May 05:33:10 [6708] addr: 2:5020/5545@fidonet


    + 16 May 07:00:06 [7150] incoming session with hren.tebe.ru [2a01:4f8:140:9ffb:900d:f001:dead:f001]
    - 16 May 07:00:06 [7150] SYS Fido.Gremlin.RU
    - 16 May 07:00:06 [7150] ZYZ Gremlin from Kremlin
    - 16 May 07:00:06 [7150] LOC Moscow, Russia
    - 16 May 07:00:06 [7150] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    - 16 May 07:00:06 [7150] TIME Fri, 16 May 2014 09:00:06 +0400
    - 16 May 07:00:06 [7150] VER binkd/1.1a-49/Linux binkp/1.1
    + 16 May 07:00:06 [7150] addr: 2:5020/545@fidonet
    + 16 May 07:00:06 [7150] addr: 2:5020/5545@fidonet


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360.8110 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Tue Nov 25 07:31:06 2014
    * Originally in ARGUS
    * Crossposted in IPV6

    Hello BjФrn!

    25 Nov 14 03:33, you wrote to me:

    I haven't played that much with relay6 but I think you need to
    set up one relay6 session for each node you plan to poll. ;-)

    Even so, I haven't managed to get the slightest life sign from any outgoing session no matter how I try.

    You need to make relay6 to listen 127.0.0.1:someport and connect to the destination (for example cow.mine.nu:24554). And then make Radius to poll to 127.0.0.1:someport.

    And you need to duplicate this for every node you poll. Not very nice but it should work.

    'Tommi


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Ray Quinn on Sun Aug 21 01:11:38 2016

    *** Answering a msg posted in area NETMAIL002 (FMail Netmail Received).

    Hello Ray,

    On Saturday August 20 2016 15:43, you wrote to me:

    I generated a poll using IPv6 so you can see what IP address it comes from. Perhaps you can find something there that will show me the way.

    Yes, I got it:

    - 21 Aug 00:44:11 [2396] incoming from 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9 (56104)
    + 21 Aug 00:44:11 [4008] incoming session with 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9
    - 21 Aug 00:44:11 [4008] SYS US 99 BBS
    - 21 Aug 00:44:11 [4008] ZYZ Ray Quinn
    - 21 Aug 00:44:11 [4008] LOC Visalia, CA USA
    - 21 Aug 00:44:11 [4008] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    - 21 Aug 00:44:11 [4008] TIME Sat, 20 Aug 2016 15:44:09 -0700
    - 21 Aug 00:44:11 [4008] VER binkd/1.1a-94/Linux binkp/1.1
    + 21 Aug 00:44:11 [4008] addr: 1:214/22@fidonet

    As you can see the IPv6 address is the same as that was in your host name in the nodelist bbs.quinnet.org. Well it was there yesterday, today there is no AAAA record attachjed to it.

    Anyway, 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9 is the ip address of your binkp system.

    But it does not yet answer on that address

    + 01:03 [3764] call to 1:214/22@fidonet
    01:03 [3764] trying 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9 [2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9]...
    ? 01:04 [3764] connection to 1:214/22@fidonet failed: {W32 API
    error 10060} Connection timed out
    01:04 [3764] trying f22.n214.z1.binkp.net [104.49.12.129]:24554...
    01:04 [3764] connected
    + 01:04 [3764] outgoing session with f22.n214.z1.binkp.net:24554 [104.49.12.129]
    - 01:04 [3764] OPT CRAM-MD5-609a94c5f8e827090e5bac79c22f8cee
    + 01:04 [3764] Remote requests MD mode
    - 01:04 [3764] SYS US 99 BBS
    - 01:04 [3764] ZYZ Ray Quinn
    - 01:04 [3764] LOC Visalia, CA USA
    - 01:04 [3764] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP


    Most likely you have a firewall issue. You have to configure your firewall(s) to pass port 24554 IPv6. Both in your router as in the system running your binkp system.



    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/22 to Bj├╢rn Felten on Sat Aug 20 16:41:00 2016
    BjФrn Felten wrote to Ray Quinn <=-


    Excellent. Now you "only" have the inbound to take care of. 8-)

    + 20 Aug 10:52:49 [1860] call to 1:214/22@fidonet
    20 Aug 10:52:49 [1860] trying bbs.quinnnet.org [2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9]...

    I am running Debian Linux (Jessie). When I type ifconfig, I get fe80::e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 as the IPv6 address. I am not in the same town as that computer and cannot further test the IP address until I can get back home.



    If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handed people are in their right minds!
    _____
    , |[][]|
    ,__| ______| |
    ,__/__]|| ________ | D8 |
    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA USA DM06ih


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Ray Quinn on Sun Aug 21 22:22:46 2016
    Hello Ray,

    On Saturday August 20 2016 16:41, you wrote to BjФrn Felten:

    [2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9]...

    I am running Debian Linux (Jessie). When I type ifconfig, I get fe80::e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 as the IPv6 address.

    You should get more that one. Addresse starting with fe80:: are so called link local adresses. They are only valid on the local link.

    Note however that the lower 64 bits of that link local addres are the same as that in the unique global address that is in your host name. e23f:49ff:fead:fa9

    Also note the ff:fe in the middle. This tells me it is a so called SLAAC addres. The lower 64 bit or the host part of the address is derived form yoy MAC address. Remove the FF:fe and invert leat but one significant buye of the most significant nibble en you get e0:3f:49:ad:0f:a9 as your MAC address.

    I am not in the same town as that computer and cannot further test the
    IP address until I can get back home.

    From the information I got so far I am 90% confident that 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9 is the correct address.

    When you get back home look at the firewall first.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Ray Quinn on Mon Aug 22 07:42:00 2016
    Ray Quinn wrote to BjФrn Felten <=-

    I am running Debian Linux (Jessie). When I type ifconfig, I get fe80::e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 as the IPv6 address. I am not in the same
    town as that computer and cannot further test the IP address until I
    can get back home.

    That's a link local address, not valid outside your LAN. Are there any other IPv6 addresses?


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  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/22 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Aug 21 17:53:00 2016
    Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Ray Quinn <=-



    Anyway, 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9 is the ip address of
    your binkp system.

    But it does not yet answer on that address

    + 01:03 [3764] call to 1:214/22@fidonet
    01:03 [3764] trying 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9 [2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9]...
    ? 01:04 [3764] connection to 1:214/22@fidonet failed: {W32 API
    error 10060} Connection timed out


    Most likely you have a firewall issue. You have to configure your firewall(s) to pass port 24554 IPv6. Both in your router as in the
    system running your binkp system.

    I concur. I logged in remotely today and did a

    telnet -6 localhost 24554

    and binkd responded back so I know it responds to IPv6 connections. The problem likely resides in the router and I am not able to check. I may have to put my attempts on the back burner for the time being. However, I will be lurking and hopefully learning.



    If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handed people are in their right minds!
    _____
    , |[][]|
    ,__| ______| |
    ,__/__]|| ________ | D8 |
    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA USA DM06ih


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  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/22 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Aug 21 21:42:00 2016
    Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Ray Quinn <=-


    Also note the ff:fe in the middle. This tells me it is a so called
    SLAAC addres. The lower 64 bit or the host part of the address is
    derived form yoy MAC address. Remove the FF:fe and invert leat but
    one significant buye of the most significant nibble en you get e0:3f:49:ad:0f:a9 as your MAC address.

    aa50:e23 - invert the 0 and the e to get e0, skip the 2, then the 3f, the 49, skip the ff:ea to get to the ad, add 0 in front of f to get 0f, then the a9. I see the pattern, but have no idea as to why.

    I am not in the same town as that computer and cannot further test the
    IP address until I can get back home.

    From the information I got so far I am 90% confident that 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9 is the correct address.

    I believe that may be the case...

    When you get back home look at the firewall first.

    I believe it is a firewall issue, in part. I used "telnet -6 localhost 24554" today and binkd responded as it should. I have the IPv4 address with no firewall in the router and it is passed straight through to the computer, which has the static IPv4. I do run iptables, but the BBS software handles most of the "firewalling".

    Headed out to the fireline tomorrow... This may be the last contact for a bit.



    If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handed people are in their right minds!
    _____
    , |[][]|
    ,__| ______| |
    ,__/__]|| ________ | D8 |
    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA USA DM06ih


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  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/22 to Tony Langdon on Sun Aug 21 21:46:00 2016
    Tony Langdon wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    Ray Quinn wrote to BjФrn Felten <=-

    I am running Debian Linux (Jessie). When I type ifconfig, I get fe80::e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 as the IPv6 address. I am not in the same
    town as that computer and cannot further test the IP address until I
    can get back home.

    That's a link local address, not valid outside your LAN. Are there
    any other IPv6 addresses?

    Perhaps you can tell me what I am seeing here. Here is the entire output of ifconfig:

    root@bbs:~# ifconfig
    eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr e0:3f:49:ad:0f:a9
    inet addr:104.49.12.129 Bcast:104.49.12.135 Mask:255.255.255.248
    inet6 addr: 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 Scope:Global
    inet6 addr: fe80::e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 Scope:Link
    UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
    RX packets:634840 errors:0 dropped:3 overruns:0 frame:0
    TX packets:160170 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
    collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
    RX bytes:113176920 (107.9 MiB) TX bytes:18281889 (17.4 MiB)

    lo Link encap:Local Loopback
    inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
    inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
    UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1
    RX packets:9915 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
    TX packets:9915 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
    collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
    RX bytes:667774 (652.1 KiB) TX bytes:667774 (652.1 KiB)




    If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handed people are in their right minds!
    _____
    , |[][]|
    ,__| ______| |
    ,__/__]|| ________ | D8 |
    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA USA DM06ih


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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Ray Quinn on Mon Aug 22 08:56:04 2016
    Hi Ray!

    21 Aug 2016 17:53, from Ray Quinn -> Michiel van der Vlist:

    I concur. I logged in remotely today and did a
    telnet -6 localhost 24554
    and binkd responded back so I know it responds to IPv6 connections.

    Sadly you are not accessible from the outside:
    fido@odroid:~$ nmap 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9 -p 24554 -6 -Pn

    Starting Nmap 6.40 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2016-08-22 08:55 CEST
    Nmap scan report for 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9
    Host is up (0.26s latency).
    PORT STATE SERVICE
    24554/tcp filtered binkp

    Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.63 seconds

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Ray Quinn on Mon Aug 22 08:57:26 2016
    Hi Ray!

    21 Aug 2016 21:46, from Ray Quinn -> Tony Langdon:

    eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr e0:3f:49:ad:0f:a9
    inet6 addr: 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 Scope:Global

    That is your globale IPv6 address - good!

    inet6 addr: fe80::e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 Scope:Link

    That is your link local address, used to communicate on your LAN.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Ray Quinn on Mon Aug 22 12:30:03 2016
    Hello Ray,

    On Sunday August 21 2016 21:42, you wrote to me:

    Also note the ff:fe in the middle. This tells me it is a so
    called SLAAC addres. The lower 64 bit or the host part of the
    address is derived form yoy MAC address. Remove the FF:fe and
    invert leat but one significant buye of the most significant
    nibble en you get
    e0:3f:49:ad:0f:a9 as your MAC address.

    aa50:e23 - invert the 0 and the e to get e0, skip the 2, then the 3f,
    the 49, skip the ff:ea to get to the ad, add 0 in front of f to get
    0f, then the a9. I see the pattern, but have no idea as to why.

    https://supportforums.cisco.com/document/100566/understanding-ipv6-eui-64-bit-address

    From the information I got so far I am 90% confident that
    2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9 is the correct address.

    I believe that may be the case...

    Make that 98% ;-)

    When you get back home look at the firewall first.

    Headed out to the fireline tomorrow... This may be the last contact
    for a bit.

    OK, keep cool..


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Ray Quinn on Tue Aug 23 11:18:00 2016
    Ray Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Perhaps you can tell me what I am seeing here. Here is the entire
    output of ifconfig:

    root@bbs:~# ifconfig
    eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr e0:3f:49:ad:0f:a9
    inet addr:104.49.12.129 Bcast:104.49.12.135 Mask:255.255.255.248

    IPv4. :)

    inet6 addr: 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 Scope:Global

    This is a valid global IPv6 address

    inet6 addr: fe80::e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 Scope:Link

    This is the link local address.



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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Ray Quinn on Tue Aug 23 16:45:12 2016
    Hello Ray!

    Aug 21 21:46 2016, Ray Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon:

    root@bbs:~# ifconfig

    Please use "ip addr show" instead, since it lists more details. Another caveat of ifconfig is, that it can't show multiple IPv4 addresses assigned to one interface.

    Regards,
    Markus

    ---
    * Origin: *** theca tabellaria *** (2:240/1661)
  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/22 to Markus Reschke on Wed Aug 24 09:42:00 2016
    Markus Reschke wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    Hello Ray!

    Aug 21 21:46 2016, Ray Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon:

    root@bbs:~# ifconfig

    Please use "ip addr show" instead,

    1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
    valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
    valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    2: eth1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether e0:3f:49:ad:0f:a9 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 104.49.12.129/29 brd 104.49.12.135 scope global eth1
    valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 2602:306:bd31:aa50:e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 scope global mngtmpaddr dynamic
    valid_lft 2591868sec preferred_lft 14268sec
    inet6 fe80::e23f:49ff:fead:fa9/64 scope link
    valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

    I am beginning to suspect that the IPv6 address shown above is not routed to me or there is a firewall issue. The ports I have checked are open on the IPv4 interface, but not using IPv6. I don't see it above, but another resource shows that the gateway for eth1 is fe80::62fe:20ff:fe4f:b8b5.



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    _____
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    ,__| ______| |
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    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Ray Quinn on Wed Aug 24 20:42:50 2016
    Hi Ray!

    Aug 24 09:42 2016, Ray Quinn wrote to Markus Reschke:

    I am beginning to suspect that the IPv6 address shown above is not
    routed to me or there is a firewall issue. The ports I have checked
    are open on the IPv4 interface, but not using IPv6. I don't see it
    above, but another resource shows that the gateway for eth1 is fe80::62fe:20ff:fe4f:b8b5.

    A traceroute shows a nice ping pong match:

    [...]
    10 rlgnc21crs.ipv6.att.net (2001:1890:ff:ffff:12:122:30:89) 126.040 ms 126.306 ms 112.504 ms
    11 rmonc401cts.ipv6.att.net (2001:1890:ff:ffff:12:123:138:101) 112.068 ms 110.069 ms 113.009 ms
    12 * 2602:300:c533:1510::27 (2602:300:c533:1510::27) 113.959 ms 114.890 ms 13 2602:300:c533:1510::15 (2602:300:c533:1510::15) 185.833 ms 189.663 ms 189.377 ms
    14 2602:300:c533:1510::25 (2602:300:c533:1510::25) 184.916 ms 181.280 ms 181.037 ms
    15 2602:300:c533:1510::15 (2602:300:c533:1510::15) 187.150 ms 185.929 ms * 16 2602:300:c533:1510::15 (2602:300:c533:1510::15) 182.557 ms 181.534 ms 184.175 ms
    17 * * 2602:300:c533:1510::15 (2602:300:c533:1510::15) 184.493 ms
    18 2602:300:c533:1510::5 (2602:300:c533:1510::5) 186.383 ms 184.285 ms 184.270 ms
    19 2602:300:c533:1510::15 (2602:300:c533:1510::15) 186.178 ms 186.415 ms 185.753 ms
    20 2602:300:c533:1510::25 (2602:300:c533:1510::25) 178.802 ms 178.370 ms 179.291 ms
    21 * 2602:300:c533:1510::15 (2602:300:c533:1510::15) 184.510 ms 184.167 ms 22 2602:300:c533:1510::25 (2602:300:c533:1510::25) 178.826 ms 180.297 ms 178.027 ms
    23 2602:300:c533:1510::5 (2602:300:c533:1510::5) 183.998 ms 183.986 ms 186.217 ms
    24 2602:300:c533:1510::15 (2602:300:c533:1510::15) 187.696 ms 187.442 ms 187.922 ms
    25 * * *
    26 * * *
    27 * * *
    28 * * *
    29 * * *
    30 * * *

    Regards,
    Markus

    ---
    * Origin: *** theca tabellaria *** (2:240/1661)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Ray Quinn on Thu Aug 25 07:27:00 2016
    Ray Quinn wrote to Markus Reschke <=-

    Yes, your default gateway is often the link local address of your router. That is certainly the case for me, so your routing seems valid.

    root@md-dstar:~# ip -6 route show
    2001:44b8:4176:f100::/64 dev eth0 proto kernel metric 256
    fe80::/64 dev eth0 proto kernel metric 256
    default via fe80::9ec7:a6ff:fe25:4d9b dev eth0 metric 1024


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Andrew Komardin on Sun Oct 16 14:05:10 2016
    Hello Andrew,

    - 14:02 [1632] incoming from 213.178.37.175 (55786)
    + 14:02 [368] incoming session with 213.178.37.175
    - 14:02 [368] SYS Warlock_BBS
    - 14:02 [368] ZYZ Andrew_Komardin
    - 14:02 [368] LOC Togliatti--Russia
    - 14:02 [368] NDL 4M,TCP,BINKP,ICM,INA:fido.globaldynamics.su
    - 14:02 [368] TIME Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:02:45 +0400
    - 14:02 [368] VER binkd/1.1a-94/Linux binkp/1.1
    + 14:02 [368] addr: 2:5075/37@fidonet
    - 14:02 [368] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT

    Alas, no incoming IPv6 yet...


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20130111
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Andrew V. Komardin@2:5075/37.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Oct 16 17:10:28 2016
    Hello, Michiel!

    Ответ на сообщение Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555) к Andrew Komardin, написанное 16 окт 16 в 14:05:

    Hello Andrew,

    - 14:02 [1632] incoming from 213.178.37.175 (55786)
    + 14:02 [368] incoming session with 213.178.37.175
    - 14:02 [368] SYS Warlock_BBS
    - 14:02 [368] ZYZ Andrew_Komardin
    - 14:02 [368] LOC Togliatti--Russia
    - 14:02 [368] NDL 4M,TCP,BINKP,ICM,INA:fido.globaldynamics.su
    - 14:02 [368] TIME Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:02:45 +0400
    - 14:02 [368] VER binkd/1.1a-94/Linux binkp/1.1
    + 14:02 [368] addr: 2:5075/37@fidonet
    - 14:02 [368] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT

    Alas, no incoming IPv6 yet...

    17:09 [21339] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-94/Linux -p -P 2:280/5555 /usr/local/etc/binkd.cfg
    17:09 [21339] creating a poll for 2:280/5555@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    17:09 [21339] clientmgr started
    $ -d 2:280/5555@fidonet
    + 17:09 [21340] call to 2:280/5555@fidonet
    17:09 [21340] trying f5555.n280.z2.binkp.net [2001:1c02:1100:1300:215:60ff:fe52:213d]...
    17:09 [21340] connected
    + 17:09 [21340] outgoing session with f5555.n280.z2.binkp.net:24554 [2001:1c02:1100:1300:215:60ff:fe52:213d]
    - 17:09 [21340] OPT CRAM-MD5-85d801c33e276fe4dc2d81a2073bddee
    + 17:09 [21340] Remote requests MD mode
    - 17:09 [21340] SYS Blijf Tonijn
    - 17:09 [21340] ZYZ Michiel van der Vlist
    - 17:09 [21340] LOC Driebergen, NL
    - 17:09 [21340] NDL CM,MO,IBN:fido.vlist.eu,RPK,NPK,ENC,NC,PING
    - 17:09 [21340] TIME Sun, 16 Oct 2016 15:09:37 +0200
    - 17:09 [21340] VER binkd/1.1a-94/Win32 binkp/1.1



    With best regards, Andrew
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    * Origin: Roma locuta - causa finita. (2:5075/37.1)
  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/23 to All on Thu Jul 28 19:47:16 2022

    Would someone try to connect to binkd on the standard port using IPv6? Any one of these addresses should work:

    bbs.quinnnet.org
    binkd6.quinnnet.org
    binkd6.us99.us

    Thanks!

    73 de W6RAY Ray Quinn
    Visalia, CA DM06II
    Ham Shack Hotline 4655


    --- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Ray's Road Node | Somewhere in California. (1:214/23)
  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664.1 to Ray Quinn on Fri Jul 29 22:12:32 2022
    *** Quoting Ray Quinn from a message to All ***

    Would someone try to connect to binkd on the standard port using
    IPv6?

    Seems to work from here:

    22:10 [269083] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-115/Linux -vpP 1:214/22 binkd.cfg
    22:10 [269083] creating a poll for 1:214/22@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    22:10 [269083] clientmgr started
    $ -d 1:214/22@fidonet
    + 22:10 [269084] call to 1:214/22@fidonet
    22:10 [269084] trying binkd6.quinnnet.org [2001:470:1f04:8c6::2]...
    22:10 [269084] connected
    + 22:10 [269084] outgoing session with binkd6.quinnnet.org:24554 [2001:470:1f04:8c6::2]
    - 22:10 [269084] OPT CRAM-MD5-465f8910a99dc30994a52b33783a4618 CRYPT
    + 22:10 [269084] Remote requests MD mode
    + 22:10 [269084] Remote requests CRYPT mode
    - 22:10 [269084] SYS US 99 BBS
    - 22:10 [269084] ZYZ Ray Quinn
    - 22:10 [269084] LOC Visalia, CA
    - 22:10 [269084] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    - 22:10 [269084] TIME Fri Jul 29 2022 19:10:22 GMT-0700 (PDT)
    - 22:10 [269084] VER BinkIT/2.41,JSBinkP/4,sbbs3.19c/Linux binkp/1.1
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 1:214/22@fidonet
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 1:214/0@fidonet
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 1:214/1@fidonet
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 9:91/2@survnet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 24:160/1@sportnet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 24:160/0@sportnet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 24:160/22@sportnet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 64:500/22@cnet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 110:214/1@linuxnet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 110:214/0@linuxnet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 111:6100/1@stn (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 111:6100/0@stn (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 111:6000/0@stn (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 314:314/45@pinet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 432:1/108@vkradio (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 510:291/0@justaxne (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 510:291/7@justaxne (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 618:300/18@micronet
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 801:1/108@rdwxnet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 900:104/3176@rmininet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:10 [269084] done (to 1:214/22@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    22:10 [269084] session closed, quitting...
    22:10 [269083] rc(269084)=0
    22:10 [269083] the queue is empty, quitting...


    Jay

    ... The world looks as if it has been left in the custody of trolls

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    * Origin: Northern Realms/TG ь tg.nrbbs.net ь Binbrook, ON (1:229/664.1)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Ray Quinn on Sat Jul 30 13:41:42 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Ray!

    28 Jul 2022 19:47:16, you wrote to All:

    Would someone try to connect to binkd on the standard port using
    IPv6? Any one of these addresses should work:
    bbs.quinnnet.org binkd6.quinnnet.org binkd6.us99.us

    Connection successful, got an answer from some broken binkp implementation.


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

    ... god@universe:~ # cvs up && make world
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: ::1 (2:5020/545)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sat Jul 30 13:07:35 2022
    Hi Alexey,

    On 2022-07-30 13:41:42, you wrote to Ray Quinn:

    Would someone try to connect to binkd on the standard port using
    IPv6? Any one of these addresses should work:
    bbs.quinnnet.org binkd6.quinnnet.org binkd6.us99.us

    Connection successful, got an answer from some broken binkp implementation.

    What is broken about it? I get binkit (synchronet) on the line. My binkd usually has no problem exchanging mail with those...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/23 to Ray Quinn on Fri Jul 29 17:55:16 2022
    Would someone try to connect to binkd on the standard port using IPv6?
    Any one of these addresses should work:

    bbs.quinnnet.org
    binkd6.quinnnet.org
    binkd6.us99.us

    I suppose I should include my Fidonet address: 1:214/22.


    73 de W6RAY Ray Quinn
    Visalia, CA DM06II
    Ham Shack Hotline 4655



    --- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Ray's Road Node | Somewhere in California. (1:214/23)
  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/23 to Jay Harris on Sat Jul 30 13:13:56 2022

    Hello Jay!

    29 Jul 22 22:12, you wrote to me:

    *** Quoting Ray Quinn from a message to All ***

    Would someone try to connect to binkd on the standard port using
    IPv6?

    Seems to work from here:

    22:10 [269083] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-115/Linux -vpP 1:214/22 binkd.cfg
    22:10 [269083] creating a poll for 1:214/22@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    22:10 [269083] clientmgr started
    $ -d 1:214/22@fidonet
    + 22:10 [269084] call to 1:214/22@fidonet
    22:10 [269084] trying binkd6.quinnnet.org [2001:470:1f04:8c6::2]...
    22:10 [269084] connected
    + 22:10 [269084] outgoing session with binkd6.quinnnet.org:24554 [2001:470:1f04:8c6::2]
    - 22:10 [269084] OPT CRAM-MD5-465f8910a99dc30994a52b33783a4618 CRYPT
    + 22:10 [269084] Remote requests MD mode
    + 22:10 [269084] Remote requests CRYPT mode
    - 22:10 [269084] SYS US 99 BBS
    - 22:10 [269084] ZYZ Ray Quinn
    - 22:10 [269084] LOC Visalia, CA
    - 22:10 [269084] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    - 22:10 [269084] TIME Fri Jul 29 2022 19:10:22 GMT-0700 (PDT)
    - 22:10 [269084] VER BinkIT/2.41,JSBinkP/4,sbbs3.19c/Linux binkp/1.1
    + 22:10 [269084] addr: 1:214/22@fidonet
    + 22:10 [269084] done (to 1:214/22@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    22:10 [269084] session closed, quitting...
    22:10 [269083] rc(269084)=0
    22:10 [269083] the queue is empty, quitting...

    Thank you. I know it used to work a long time ago as I was once number 32 or so on "The List."

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA DM06II
    Ham Shack Hotline 4655
    GMRS WRKZ506

    --- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Ray's Road Node | Somewhere in California. (1:214/23)
  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/23 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Jul 30 13:26:10 2022

    Hello Wilfred!

    30 Jul 22 13:07, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    Hi Alexey,

    On 2022-07-30 13:41:42, you wrote to Ray Quinn:

    Would someone try to connect to binkd on the standard port using
    IPv6? Any one of these addresses should work:
    bbs.quinnnet.org binkd6.quinnnet.org binkd6.us99.us

    Connection successful, got an answer from some broken binkp
    implementation.

    What is broken about it? I get binkit (synchronet) on the line. My
    binkd usually has no problem exchanging mail with those...

    That was my question. And thanks also for confirming it for me.

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA DM06II
    Ham Shack Hotline 4655
    GMRS WRKZ506

    --- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Ray's Road Node | Somewhere in California. (1:214/23)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sun Jul 31 00:29:52 2022
    Connection successful, got an answer from some broken binkp implementation.

    BinkIT is not broken. It is a very well implemeted binkd/binkp in JavaScript.

    It just works in the same way binkd does.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Ray Quinn on Sun Jul 31 10:43:01 2022
    Hello Ray,

    On Saturday July 30 2022 13:13, you wrote to Jay Harris:

    Thank you. I know it used to work a long time ago as I was once number
    32 or so on "The List."

    You are now #73 on the list.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jul 31 12:18:27 2022
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2022-07-31 10:43:01, you wrote to Ray Quinn:

    Thank you. I know it used to work a long time ago as I was once
    number 32 or so on "The List."

    MvdV> You are now #73 on the list.

    That's Jay Harris. Ray is #107 ... ???

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sun Jul 31 12:57:56 2022
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Sunday July 31 2022 12:18, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> You are now #73 on the list.

    That's Jay Harris. Ray is #107 ... ???

    Ah, these North Americans. They all look alike to me. ;-)

    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/23 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jul 31 08:34:36 2022

    Hello Michiel!

    31 Jul 22 12:57, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    Hello Wilfred,
    On Sunday July 31 2022 12:18, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>> You are now #73 on the list.

    That's Jay Harris. Ray is #107 ... ???

    Ah, these North Americans. They all look alike to me. ;-)

    Ah, yes... But as with most US Americans, we are a lot more mixed up (in more ways than one). You see, I am partically (very small part) "Native American", more precisely, a decendant of the native Cherokee Tribe. However, I am more European than I am Native American.

    My last name, accroding to ancestry.com, is Irish. According to behindthename.com, my first name appears to be English and French. I've been told all my life (nearly 60 years) that I am "black dutch". That term has several meanings. The dark-skinned Dutch immigrants, the Sephardic Jewish immigrants, Native Americans, particularly the Cherokees of the Carolinas, the German immigrants, among others.

    So, in short, I can see why we all look alike...

    Oh, I am no where near 107...

    Let's see. The topic. I have been working on the aforementioned f1d0:1:214:22 setup off and on since 03:00 and it is now 09:00. Time for Sunday breakfast...

    Thanks!

    73 de W6RAY Ray Quinn
    Visalia, CA DM06II
    Ham Shack Hotline 4655

    If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body,
    then only left handed people are in their right mind.

    --- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Ray's Road Node | Somewhere in California. (1:214/23)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Travis Mehrer on Tue Jun 6 08:58:32 2023
    Hello Travis,

    It works:

    + 08:44 [3884] call to 1:134/303@fidonet
    08:44 [3884] trying bbs.canerduh.com
    [2604:3d09:227b:26af:19:a08b:78ab:5e16]...
    08:44 [3884] connected
    + 08:44 [3884] outgoing session with bbs.canerduh.com:24554
    [2604:3d09:227b:26af:19:a08b:78ab:5e16]
    - 08:44 [3884] OPT CRAM-MD5-0ae3e0f7a0e74036f32f65f3f3d09d2c
    + 08:44 [3884] Remote requests MD mode
    - 08:44 [3884] SYS CaNerDUH BBS
    - 08:44 [3884] LOC CaNerDUH
    - 08:44 [3884] ZYZ The Blade
    - 08:44 [3884] TIME Tue, 06 Jun 2023 00:44:04 -0600
    - 08:44 [3884] VER Mystic/1.12A48 binkp/1.0
    - 08:44 [3884] BUILD 2023/01/15 12:54:07 Raspberry Pi/32
    + 08:44 [3884] addr: 1:134/303@fidonet
    + 08:44 [3884] addr: 21:4/151@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
    + 08:44 [3884] addr: 420:1/11@weednet (n/a or busy)
    - 08:44 [3884] QSIZE 0 files 0 bytes
    + 08:44 [3884] done (to 1:134/303@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))

    Travis, welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Travis Mehrer@1:134/303 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jun 8 11:48:27 2023
    Travis, welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!

    Thank you very much! It seems that OPNsense has a few minor issues with IPv6 causing it to lose IPv6 connectivity intermittently. At least now with my kids having Disney+ on our Fire Stick (which defaults to IPv6 when available) I notice pretty quickly when it stops working and can usually get it back up before I lose my current /64 and have to redo all my DNS records again.

    Supposedly the latest update for IPv6 has some fixes for this issue so fingers crossed it won't be a problem anymore once I have the chance to upgrade.

    Also, apologies for the alias on my other message, the settings for this echo should be fixed now.

    Travis

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