Node Nr. Sysop Type Remarks

2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net


Any more?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hi Michiel,

On 2014-03-05 11:53:19, you wrote to All:

MvdV> Node Nr. Sysop Type Remarks

MvdV> 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native
MvdV> 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native
MvdV> 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native
MvdV> 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native IPv6 only
MvdV> 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
MvdV> 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net


MvdV> Any more?

He might not be awake yet, so I'll answer for him ;) : 1:154/10

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-W32-1.67.0.46-B20140112
* Origin: Amiga Offline BBS Lisse (2:280/464)

Hello Wilfred,

On Wednesday March 05 2014 12:01, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Any more?

He might not be awake yet, so I'll answer for him ;) : 1:154/10

Ah, yes. How could I forget Nicholas. Sorry Nick.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Node Nr. Sysop Type Remarks

1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello All,

Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks

1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4?
2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello Michiel!

MvdV> 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
MvdV> 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4?
MvdV> 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
MvdV> 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
MvdV> 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
MvdV> 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All IPv6 only
MvdV> 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
MvdV> 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net

In the old tradition, that calls for a separate zone for ipv6net. ;-)))

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hello Michiel!

05 Mar 2014 11:53, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

MvdV> Node Nr. Sysop Type Remarks

MvdV> 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native
MvdV> 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native
MvdV> 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native
MvdV> 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native IPv6 only
MvdV> 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
MvdV> 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net


MvdV> Any more?

test linode.junc.eu native dual stacked


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.13.5-gentoo (i686))
* Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)

Hello Benny!

05 Mar 14 17:40, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

MvdV>> Any more?

test linode.junc.eu native dual stacked

But currently it reports to be a point system.

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hello Benny,

On Wednesday March 05 2014 17:40, you wrote to me:

test linode.junc.eu native dual stacked

19:58 [9460] creating a poll for 2:230/38.1@fidonet (`d' flavour)
19:58 [9460] clientmgr started
+ 19:58 [7684] call to 2:230/38.1@fidonet
19:58 [7684] trying linode.junc.eu [2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe69:4ef7]...
19:58 [7684] connected
+ 19:58 [7684] outgoing session with 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe69:4ef7
- 19:58 [7684] SYS linode.junc.eu
- 19:58 [7684] ZYZ Benny Pedersen
- 19:58 [7684] LOC London, England
- 19:58 [7684] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
- 19:58 [7684] TIME Wed, 5 Mar 2014 18:58:15 +0000
- 19:58 [7684] VER binkd/1.1a-27/Linux binkp/1.1
+ 19:58 [7684] addr: 2:230/38.1@fidonet
+ 19:58 [7684] addr: 39:140/127.1@amiganet (n/a or busy)
- 19:58 [7684] OPT EXTCMD NR ND NDA GZ BZ2
+ 19:58 [7684] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 19:58 [7684] Remote requests NR mode
+ 19:58 [7684] Remote requests ND mode
+ 19:58 [7684] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
- 19:58 [7684] we are in ND mode
- 19:58 [7684] we are in NR mode
+ 19:58 [7684] done (to 2:230/38.1@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
19:58 [7684] session closed, quitting...
19:58 [9460] the queue is empty, quitting...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello Michiel,

On 05 Mar 14 11:53, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

Node Nr. Sysop Type Remarks

2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net

1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Tunnel tunnelbroker.net
1:154/701 Nicholas Boel Tunnel tunnelbroker.net

Any more?

Nod. :)

Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: Dark Sorrow | darksorrow.us (1:154/701)

Hello Wilfred,

On 05 Mar 14 12:01, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

He might not be awake yet, so I'll answer for him ;) : 1:154/10

Thank you kindly. :)

Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: Dark Sorrow | darksorrow.us (1:154/701)

Hello Michiel,

On 05 Mar 14 12:16, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Ah, yes. How could I forget Nicholas. Sorry Nick.

No worries at all, bud. That's what I get for being so silent at times. :)

Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: Dark Sorrow | darksorrow.us (1:154/701)

Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks

1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
1:154/701 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4?
2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello Kees!

05 Mar 2014 19:25, Kees van Eeten wrote to Benny Pedersen:

MvdV>>> Any more?

test linode.junc.eu native dual stacked

But currently it reports to be a point system.

it should still not just drop connection, take its test as i was a point on your node, and i just get dropped before ack in binkp protocol, is this ipv6 problem somewhere ?


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.13.5-gentoo (i686))
* Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)

Hello Michiel!

05 Mar 2014 19:58, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Benny Pedersen:

MvdV> Hello Benny,

MvdV> On Wednesday March 05 2014 17:40, you wrote to me:

test linode.junc.eu native dual stacked

MvdV> + 19:58 [7684] done (to 2:230/38.1@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0
MvdV> bytes))
MvdV> 19:58 [7684] session closed, quitting...
MvdV> 19:58 [9460] the queue is empty, quitting...

this is what i like to see aswell when i am the client from linode.junc.eu


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.13.5-gentoo (i686))
* Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)

Hello Michiel!

06 Mar 14 09:23, you wrote to All:

MvdV> Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks

MvdV> 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
MvdV> 1:154/701 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
MvdV> 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4?
MvdV> 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
MvdV> 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
MvdV> 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
MvdV> 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All IPv6 only
MvdV> 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
MvdV> 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net

As a followup on your list I more ore less repeated my last year survey.

1029 Binkp capable nodes in de Nodelist
32 Hostnames return an IPv6 address
28 Unique IPv6 adresses

1 Incomplete IPv6 address
11 Connect on IPv6
12 Falback to IPv4
4 Fail in IPv6 and IPv4

Missing in the above list are;
2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Tunnel he.net
2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov Tunnel he.net
2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? VTT network operations

Remark for Nicholas Boel:
1:154/701 failed on IPv6, the IPv4 fallback system did not have 1:154/701 as
one of its aka's.

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hi Kees,

On 2014-03-11 14:24:16, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

1 Incomplete IPv6 address
12 Falback to IPv4
4 Fail in IPv6 and IPv4

We should create a "wall of shame". ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-W32-1.67.0.46-B20140112
* Origin: Amiga Offline BBS Lisse (2:280/464)

Hello Wilfred!

11 Mar 14 17:01, you wrote to me:

On 2014-03-11 14:24:16, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

1 Incomplete IPv6 address
12 Falback to IPv4
4 Fail in IPv6 and IPv4

We should create a "wall of shame". ;)

Why, most of them never claimed to be supporting IPv6, neither have they
installed software that could.

Ik think that encouraging people who have software that supports IPv6 and
have IPv6 access, would be a better job. I have seen two, that fill that bill.
Four could join, if they upgrade their Binkd. Of these last four two are almost ghost systems, so don't expect to much there.

Then there are two in the list that are trying to solve their access problems.

So all in all, at least another 6-8 systems could join je IPv6 capable list.

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hi,

On 2014-03-11 17:18:28, Kees van Eeten wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
about: "List of IPv6 nodes":

1 Incomplete IPv6 address
12 Falback to IPv4
4 Fail in IPv6 and IPv4

We should create a "wall of shame". ;)

Why, most of them never claimed to be supporting IPv6, neither have they
installed software that could.

If they advertise it through dns, they do so implicitly...

Ik think that encouraging people who have software that supports
IPv6 and
have IPv6 access, would be a better job. I have seen two, that fill that bill. Four could join, if they upgrade their Binkd. Of these last four two
are almost ghost systems, so don't expect to much there.

Then there are two in the list that are trying to solve their access problems.

So all in all, at least another 6-8 systems could join je IPv6 capable list.

So mabye a "wall of shame" could encourage them to take action to fix this either way...

Bye, Wilfred.


--- FMail-W32-1.67.0.46-B20140112
* Origin: Native IPv6 connectable node (2:280/464)

Hello Wilfred,

On Tuesday March 11 2014 20:44, you wrote to Kees van Eeten:

We should create a "wall of shame". ;)

Why, most of them never claimed to be supporting IPv6, neither
have they installed software that could.

If they advertise it through dns, they do so implicitly...

While I agree that nodelisting a host name that has an AAAA record attached, implies advertising IPv6 capability and while I take the position that advertising IPv6 capability when one does not actually have it, is not recommended, I think a "wall of shame" may not be the right way to encourage Fidonet sysops to implement IPv6.

Ik think that encouraging people who have software that supports
IPv6 and have IPv6 access, would be a better job. I have seen two,
that fill that bill. Four could join, if they upgrade their Binkd.

I can go along with that...

So mabye a "wall of shame" could encourage them to take action to fix
this either way...

Not seeing themselves on the list of fame, might do it too...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello Kees,

On Tuesday March 11 2014 14:24, you wrote to me:

Missing in the above list are;
2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Tunnel he.net
2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov Tunnel he.net
2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? VTT network operations

Added.

Remark for Nicholas Boel:
1:154/701 failed on IPv6, the IPv4 fallback system did not have
1:154/701 as one of its aka's.

I do not have that problem. Perhaps you missed that 1:154/701 is on port 24555 instead of the standard binkp port?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks

1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
1:154/701 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4?
2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net
2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Tunnel he.net
2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov Tunnel he.net
2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? vtt.ru


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello Kees,

On Tuesday March 11 2014 14:24, you wrote to me:

2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? VTT network operations

I strongly suspect it is a native connection. His address is 2a02:e840::1. That is the first address in a whole /32! Only ISPs and large organisations get a /32. So he must be the Network Bozo for a large opganisation that has its own /32. That would not interface with the IPv6 world though a tunnel...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hi,

On 2014-03-11 21:31:57, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
about: "List of IPv6 nodes":

So mabye a "wall of shame" could encourage them to take action to fix
this either way...

MvdV> Not seeing themselves on the list of fame, might do it too...

But to be able to help or encourage them, these systems should be known. So we shouldn't call it the "wall of shame", but the encouragement list? ;)

Bye, Wilfred.


--- FMail-W32-1.67.0.46-B20140112
* Origin: Native IPv6 connectable node (2:280/464)

Hello Michiel!

11 Mar 14 21:25, you wrote to me:

MvdV> I do not have that problem. Perhaps you missed that 1:154/701 is on port
MvdV> 24555 instead of the standard binkp port?

Yes, apparently I did miss that. I will have to check the script that
creates my Binkd Nodelist. (Alsway blame the software).

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hello Michiel!

11 Mar 14 21:31, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

MvdV> While I agree that nodelisting a host name that has an AAAA record
MvdV> attached, implies advertising IPv6 capability and while I take the
MvdV> position that advertising IPv6 capability when one does not actually
MvdV> have it, is not recommended, I think a "wall of shame" may not be the
MvdV> right way to encourage Fidonet sysops to implement IPv6.

We have had this discussion before, Fidonet is a guest on the internet,
it cannot dictate how the internet should be organised.

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hello Michiel!

Mar 11 21:54 2014, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Kees van Eeten:

MvdV> I strongly suspect it is a native connection. His address is
MvdV> 2a02:e840::1. That is the first address in a whole /32! Only ISPs
MvdV> and large organisations get a /32. So he must be the Network Bozo
MvdV> for a large opganisation that has its own /32. That would not
MvdV> interface with the IPv6 world though a tunnel...

inet6num: 2a02:e840::/48
netname: VTT-TEST
descr: JSC "Volgatranstelecom"
descr: Test for Saratov, part I

Only a /48 :-)

Regards,
Markus

---
* Origin: *** theca tabellaria *** (2:240/1661)

Hello Michiel!

11 Mar 14 21:25, you wrote to me:

MvdV> I do not have that problem. Perhaps you missed that 1:154/701 is on port
MvdV> 24555 instead of the standard binkp port?

I got my knowledge from recent nodelists, there is no reference to an
alternate port there.

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hello Kees,

On 11 Mar 14 14:24, Kees van Eeten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Remark for Nicholas Boel:
1:154/701 failed on IPv6, the IPv4 fallback system did not have
1:154/701 as one of its aka's.

My netseg hasn't gone up in a couple weeks. 1:154/701 is on port 24555, and has already been changed here in my netseg awhile ago. Another issue arose as far as the netseg not making it into the final nodelist, which has also been fixed. The nodelist should be updated this week.

Both DNSs point to the same place. My old router I was able to use DNSMasq to defer each DNS to separate systems using the same port, but since I got a new router, I'm not able to do that anymore so I had to switch the binkp port of the second system.

Michiel already confirmed this a week or two ago, and just last Friday I noticed my netseg changes weren't sent to my RC (I was also migrating everything from 000-0-0-0-0 to -Unpublished- at the time, and included a
typo. :/ ).

If you manually try darksorrow.us on port 24555, it'll work. Just have to wait for the nodelist to be updated this week for the listing to be accurate.

My apologies.

Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: Dark Sorrow | darksorrow.us (1:154/701)

Hello Kees,

On 11 Mar 14 21:58, Kees van Eeten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

MvdV>> is on port 24555 instead of the standard binkp port?

Yes, apparently I did miss that. I will have to check the script that
creates my Binkd Nodelist. (Alsway blame the software).

If your software checked via nodelist entries, then your software was working correctly. This was something I mentioned directly to Michiel, and had fixed in my net segment. Unfortunately, my net segment hasn't gone to my RC in two weeks due to a typo regarding something else.

This week should reflect my setup correctly.. finally. :)

Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: Dark Sorrow | darksorrow.us (1:154/701)

Hello Nicholas!

11 Mar 14 17:21, you wrote to me:

If you manually try darksorrow.us on port 24555, it'll work. Just have to wait for the nodelist to be updated this week for the listing to be accurate.

My apologies.

Thanks for explaining, no need for apologies.
Keep up the good work.

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hello Nicholas!

11 Mar 14 17:35, you wrote to me:

This week should reflect my setup correctly.. finally. :)

Life in Fidonet is a bitch ;-))

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

MvdV> Not seeing themselves on the list of fame, might do it too...

I agree with that. The carrot is usually more effective than the whip.

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
* Origin: news://felten.yi.org (2:203/2)

Hello Kees,

On 11 Mar 14 23:50, Kees van Eeten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

This week should reflect my setup correctly.. finally. :)

Life in Fidonet is a bitch ;-))

Oddly enough, it can be! One simple typo can screw up quite a few things. Sometimes I tend to type too fast, other times my brain is well ahead of what I'm typing, which usually leads to missing words. :)

Eh well.

Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: Dark Sorrow | darksorrow.us (1:154/701)

Hello Kees,

On Tuesday March 11 2014 22:02, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> While I agree that nodelisting a host name that has an AAAA
MvdV>> record attached, implies advertising IPv6 capability and while
MvdV>> I take the position that advertising IPv6 capability when one
MvdV>> does not actually have it, is not recommended, I think a "wall
MvdV>> of shame" may not be the right way to encourage Fidonet sysops
MvdV>> to implement IPv6.

We have had this discussion before, Fidonet is a guest on the
internet, it cannot dictate how the internet should be organised.

But it can choose how it uses the internet.

Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello Bj�rn,

On Wednesday March 12 2014 00:08, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Not seeing themselves on the list of fame, might do it too...

I agree with that. The carrot is usually more effective than the
whip.

Sow.... How about yours truly? You advertise an IPv6 address for felten.yi.org but you do not have an IPv6 binkp server answering incoming calls, so you you have not made it to the list yet. Are you encouraged to work on it?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello Markus,

On Tuesday March 11 2014 22:19, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> I strongly suspect it is a native connection. His address is
MvdV>> 2a02:e840::1. That is the first address in a whole /32!
[...]

inet6num: 2a02:e840::/48
netname: VTT-TEST
descr: JSC "Volgatranstelecom"
descr: Test for Saratov, part I

Only a /48 :-)

Hmm... It may be listed as a /48, but that bit 33-48 of that address just happen to be all zeros is too much for just a coincidence, I'd say... ;-)


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

MvdV> Sow.... How about yours truly? You advertise an IPv6 address for
MvdV> felten.yi.org

Check.

MvdV> but you do not have an IPv6 binkp server answering
MvdV> incoming calls,

Check.

MvdV> so you you have not made it to the list yet.

Check.

MvdV> Are you encouraged to work on it?

Not really. As I've explained, I have a Win XP box from last century acting as my system's router. Plus I have Argus answering binkp calls.

Unless people are starting to get problems connecting to my system, I'm not inclined to totally rebuild my Fido system from scratch. Too many systems are depending on it ATM.

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Unless people are starting to get problems connecting to my system, I'm not inclined to totally rebuild my Fido system from scratch. Too many systems are depending on it ATM.

Unless 2, someone happens to stumble across some 'netsh' command for Win XP SP3, that can make it translate an incoming IPv4:port call into an IPv6 ditto, and also make Argus answer said call, I might add. 8-)

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Hi Bj�rn,

On 2014-03-12 01:57:05, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Unless people are starting to get problems connecting to my system,
I'm not inclined to totally rebuild my Fido system from scratch. Too
many systems are depending on it ATM.

I had to make a special configuration in my binkd.conf for your system, to stop it make fruitless IPv6 calls to your system, and wait for the timeout everytime. Would you call this a problem? ;)

But why don't you create a "special" host name for your fidonet connection, that doesn't advertise IPv6? That would also solve the "problem".

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi! Bj�rn,

In a message to Bj�rn Felten you wrote:

Unless 2, someone happens to stumble across some 'netsh' command
for Win XP SP3, that can make it translate an incoming IPv4:port call
into an IPv6 ditto, and also make Argus answer said call, I might
add. 8-)

I've found a utility in my filebase that you may care to try. (I haven't used it at all.) The dox are extremely sparse, and the thing may not work for IPv6, but it may actually work.[sfx: fingers crossed] It's called Port-map...

PORT-MAP.ZIP 4,812 bytes 06/09/03

It's on hold for your next session. Bon chance, mon ami!

Cheers,
Paul.

... Life is just nature's way of keeping meat fresh.
--- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox
* Origin: Quinn's Post - Maryborough, Queensland, OZ (3:640/384)

Hello Wilfred!

11 Mar 2014 17:01, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Kees van Eeten:

We should create a "wall of shame". ;)

would be nice to have seen arexx code now

alos why its not ported outside of m68k imho :(


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Hello Michiel!

11 Mar 2014 21:25, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Kees van Eeten:

MvdV> I do not have that problem. Perhaps you missed that 1:154/701 is on
MvdV> port 24555 instead of the standard binkp port?

but what have this to do with ipv6 ?, nothing really, ipv4 and ipv6 services can and should try to keep native ports before solving another problem


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Hello Kees!

11 Mar 2014 22:11, Kees van Eeten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

I got my knowledge from recent nodelists, there is no reference to
an alternate port there.

nodelist is not really important to binkp, but more that using root-domain binkp.net is, then binkd will solve its update of nodelist changes, and it would support ipv6/ipv4 without extra work on the nodelist maintainers, its all magic in dns

the days where i change binkd.cfg is gone here :)


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Hi Benny,

On 2014-03-12 10:27:42, you wrote to me:

We should create a "wall of shame". ;)

would be nice to have seen arexx code now

alos why its not ported outside of m68k imho :(

I don't follow you. What does arexx (a programming language) have to do with IPv6 connectivity of nodes?

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Benny!

12 Mar 14 10:33, you wrote to me:

I got my knowledge from recent nodelists, there is no reference to
an alternate port there.

nodelist is not really important to binkp, but more that using root-domain binkp.net is, then binkd will solve its update of nodelist changes, and it would support ipv6/ipv4 without extra work on the nodelist maintainers, its all magic in dns

I may have missed something in your reasoning. As far as I know the DNS
domain binkp.net reflects what is in the nodelist, just put into a different
format. I do understand, that you can ask them to add additional information,
that is not in the nodelist.

If I derive a list that can be used by Binkp from the nodelist, then
the relative content, will be equal too what is in DNS binkp.net apart from
personal addition.

The nodelist did not contain a reference for a different port number and
as a consequence neither did the information in binkp.net or my local list.

the days where i change binkd.cfg is gone here :)

It is your choice to depend on the services offered by others.
The ultimate is to dissolve your fidonode and visit a Fidonet connected BBS.

It is my choice to generate the services myself, be it as a flat texfile
that is included into binkd.cfg or as a local dns domain.

Kees

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Hello Björn,

On 12 Mar 14 02:06, Björn Felten wrote to Björn Felten:

Unless people are starting to get problems connecting to my
system, I'm not inclined to totally rebuild my Fido system from
scratch. Too many systems are depending on it ATM.

Unless 2, someone happens to stumble across some 'netsh' command
for Win XP SP3, that can make it translate an incoming IPv4:port call
into an IPv6 ditto, and also make Argus answer said call, I might add.
8-)

You mention totally rebuilding your Fido system, yet the only thing in the way is the mailer. What, besides the mailer, would need to be rebuilt?

binkd can easily be installed and configured (even over some time) while Argus continues to do it's thing per the norm. Once configuration is done, I doubt anyone would notice (or mind if they did) the 30 second (or less) downtime between shutting down Argus, and starting binkd. Then if there was by chance any stray packets/bundles waiting to go out from the Argus system (I don't remember, but *think* it's FD Attach-style), they can easily be copied over to the BSO outbound directory with a .?lo file created for them so binkd sees them and sends them. Voila! No mail lost and just enough downtime to make the change.

In other words, *nudge nudge* :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Benny,

On 12 Mar 14 10:29, Benny Pedersen wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

MvdV>> I do not have that problem. Perhaps you missed that 1:154/701
MvdV>> is on port 24555 instead of the standard binkp port?

but what have this to do with ipv6 ?, nothing really, ipv4 and ipv6 services can and should try to keep native ports before solving
another problem

It absolutely has to do with IPv6. 1:154/10 is on the standard port. 1:154/701 is a test node open to the public, and uses a non-standard port. Two separate machines with different IPv6 addresses, but both share the IPv4 address.

What exactly is the "problem" with that?

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Benny,

On Wednesday March 12 2014 10:29, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> I do not have that problem. Perhaps you missed that 1:154/701
MvdV>> is on port 24555 instead of the standard binkp port?

but what have this to do with ipv6 ?, nothing really,

What it has to do with Pv6 is that to connect with his system via IPv6, it has to be done on port 24555.

ipv4 and ipv6 services can and should try to keep native ports before solving another problem

He runs two system, but only has one IPv4 address. So the two systems can not be on the same port for IPv4. So the second system must be on a non standard port. There is no way to list a different port for Ipv4 and Ipv6, so the Ipv6 for the second system must be on the same non standard port.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Wednesday March 12 2014 01:57, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Sow.... How about yours truly? You advertise an IPv6 address for
MvdV>> felten.yi.org

Check.

Why? why do you advertise it in the nodelist? Considering that...

MvdV>> but you do not have an IPv6 binkp server answering incoming calls,

Check.

You do not actually support Fido Over IPv6 connects...

MvdV>> so you you have not made it to the list yet.

Check.

MvdV>> Are you encouraged to work on it?

Not really.

And supporting Fido over IPv6 apparently is not on your todo list...

Why do you advertise a method of connection that you do not support?

As I've explained, I have a Win XP box from last century acting as my system's router.

Which obviously does not work. And it probably will never work, I have not heard of anyone succeeding in making XP work as an IPv6 router. I have left that road years ago. I terminate my SixXs tunnel on the system that runs Fidonet. No router functionality, just a tunnel serving one system. That works for me. On XP.

Plus I have Argus answering binkp calls.

Argus is open source, so there is hope. But you'r not married to Argus are you?

Unless people are starting to get problems connecting to my system,
I'm not inclined to totally rebuild my Fido system from scratch. Too
many systems are depending on it ATM.

Rebuilding my system from scratch is more or less what I am doing right now. where is the spirit of the early days of Fidonet?


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Michiel,

On 13 Mar 14 00:44, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Benny Pedersen:

ipv4 and ipv6 services can and should try to keep native ports
before solving another problem

He runs two system, but only has one IPv4 address. So the two systems
can not be on the same port for IPv4. So the second system must be on
a non standard port. There is no way to list a different port for Ipv4
and Ipv6, so the Ipv6 for the second system must be on the same non standard port.

I thought that's where he was going with that. Thank you for the confirmation, and backing me up on it as well. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Wilfred!

12 Mar 2014 11:14, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Benny Pedersen:

I don't follow you. What does arexx (a programming language) have to
do with IPv6 connectivity of nodes?

arexx is a programming language like c or pascal or maybe even python perl what ever, sadly main arex.library is gone to dev null, so its hard to port, and there we go like irex lost code, arexx scripts is found on aminet with is fine, but the main problem is it hard to rewrite main library just by seen what the scripts does


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.13.6-gentoo (i686))
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Hi,

On 2014-03-12 17:25:44, Benny Pedersen wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
about: "Re: List of IPv6 nodes":

I don't follow you. What does arexx (a programming language) have to
do with IPv6 connectivity of nodes?

arexx is a programming language like c or pascal or maybe even python perl what ever, sadly main arex.library is gone to dev null, so its hard to port, and there we go like irex lost code, arexx scripts is found on aminet
with is fine, but the main problem is it hard to rewrite main library just by seen what the scripts does

I still don't see a link with IPv6!?

Bye, Wilfred.


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Wednesday March 05 2014 12:38, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

Hello All,

Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks
2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4?

You may remove the question mark.

'Tommi

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Wednesday March 12 2014 02:06, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

for Win XP SP3, that can make it translate an incoming IPv4:port call
into an IPv6 ditto, and also make Argus answer said call, I might add.

I wrote on this echo long time ago about a windows portmapping program that can do it for you. Just browse back. :)

'Tommi

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I wrote on this echo long time ago about a windows portmapping program that can do it for you. Just browse back. :)

If it's the same program that Paul was kind enough to send to me, then it's just that: a port mapper. It listens to an IPv4 port and forwards the traffic to a specific IPv4 and port. I.e. exactly what my firewall is doing.

The program is from June 2002 -- two years before the first ROOT-DNS server could handle IPv6 -- so one can understand that it's not for incoming IPv6 calls... 8-)

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Saturday March 15 2014 18:04, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Tommi Koivula:

I wrote on this echo long time ago about a windows portmapping
program that can do it for you. Just browse back. :)

If it's the same program that Paul was kind enough to send to me,
then it's just that: a port mapper. It listens to an IPv4 port and forwards the traffic to a specific IPv4 and port. I.e. exactly what my firewall is doing.

No, it listens ipv6 port and forwards it into ipv4 port. I tested it by running it on a winxp computer with ipv6 enabled. It forwarded ipv6 packets to my ipv4 os/2 computer.

It is called relay6. I'll start it again if you want to test.

Telnet to cow.rbb.bbs.fi. ;)

'Tommi

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It is called relay6.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/relay6/files/relay6/3.0.0.0/relay6.zip/download

Quote from the help:

relay6 is a bouncer, an application which bounces incoming connections
to a defined destination. There are a lot of uses for a bouncer: relay6
was born to allow, beyond the bouncing, the IPv4 to IPv6 packets
conversion. This means we can use IPv4-only applications also on the
6bone (IPv6) and vice versa. relay6 is a TCP bouncer, UDP is not
supported: it accepts incoming TCP/IPv4 and TCP/IPv6 connections and it
allows to exit with TCP/IPv4 and TCP/IPv6 (we'll use IPv* to mean IPv4
and IPv6).

'Tommi

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Saturday March 15 2014 18:04, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Tommi Koivula:

The program is from June 2002 -- two years before the first
ROOT-DNS server could handle IPv6 -- so one can understand that it's
not for incoming IPv6 calls... 8-)

Relay6 is also from the year 2002 and it works!

It is running now as:

relay6.exe 23 rbb.bbs.fi 32 /b:cow.rbb.bbs.fi

It is listening port 23 at interface "cow.rbb.bbs.fi" and forwarding packets to "rbb.bbs.fi" port 32 where my bbs is waiting for you. OS is doing most of the job, I think.

"so one can understand that it's for incoming IPv6 calls... 8-)"

'Tommi

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Hello Wilfred!

15 Mar 2014 11:41, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Benny Pedersen:

I still don't see a link with IPv6!?

atleast Janis is back now :=)


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Hello Tommi,

On Saturday March 15 2014 15:35, you wrote to me:

Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks
2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4?

You may remove the question mark.

Done.


Cheers, Michiel

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Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks

1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
1:154/701 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4
2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net
2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Tunnel he.net
2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov Tunnel he.net
2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? vtt.ru



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relay6.exe 23 rbb.bbs.fi 32 /b:cow.rbb.bbs.fi

It is listening port 23 at interface "cow.rbb.bbs.fi" and forwarding packets to "rbb.bbs.fi" port 32 where my bbs is waiting for you. OS is doing most of the job, I think.

I'm probably getting to old an senile for this, but I don't get it.

Why listen to port 23, or any port at all for that matter? IPv6 doesn't try to connect to any specific port, does it?

If I want to route6 every incoming IPv6 (/b:::) call -- and only those -- to localhost:24554, what would you suggest then?

First of all I just want to make binkp calls working, later on I will use the firewall function of this wonderful little gadget to replace the hopelessly outdated internal XP firewall.

Once again, thanks a million for the tips, it really brings linux functionality to an almost 20yo Windows machine.

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On 18.3.2014 16:28, Bj�rn Felten -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

relay6.exe 23 rbb.bbs.fi 32 /b:cow.rbb.bbs.fi

It is listening port 23 at interface "cow.rbb.bbs.fi" and forwarding
packets to "rbb.bbs.fi" port 32 where my bbs is waiting for you. OS is
doing most of the job, I think.

I'm probably getting to old an senile for this, but I don't get it.

Probably. ;)

Is your Argus running at the same XP computer that has the IPv6 address?

I'd try:
relay6.exe 23 localhost 23 /b:felten.yi.org
or:
relay6.exe 24554 localhost 24554 /b:felten.yi.org

'Tommi

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relay6.exe 24554 localhost 24554 /b:felten.yi.org

OK, I've tried this. Let's see what happens. And yes, localhost here is the fido machine as well as the IPv6 endpoint 306::2.

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Wednesday March 19 2014 00:44, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

relay6.exe 24554 localhost 24554 /b:felten.yi.org

OK, I've tried this. Let's see what happens. And yes, localhost
here is the fido machine as well as the IPv6 endpoint 306::2.

It still does not work, but there is progress. Or regress, depending how you look at it. The response is different:

D:\FIDO\BINKD>binkd -p -P203/0 binkd.cfg
01:04 [4252] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P203/0 binkd.cfg
01:04 [4252] creating a poll for 2:203/0@fidonet (`d' flavour)
01:04 [4252] clientmgr started
+ 01:04 [4956] call to 2:203/0@fidonet
01:04 [4956] trying felten.yi.org [2001:16d8:ff00:306::2]...
01:04 [4956] connected
+ 01:04 [4956] outgoing session with 2001:16d8:ff00:306::2
? 01:04 [4956] recv: connection closed by foreign host
+ 01:04 [4956] done (to 2:203/0@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
01:04 [4956] session closed, quitting...
01:04 [4252] the queue is empty, quitting...



Cheers, Michiel

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MvdV> ? 01:04 [4956] recv: connection closed by foreign host

Strange... Alas, back to the drawing-board.

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relay6.exe 24554 localhost 24554 /b:felten.yi.org

How stupid of me. localhost is of course translated to the IPv6 address (::1 I guess) and Argus doesn't know IPv6. Lets see if

relay6.exe 24554 192.168.0.1 24554 /b:::

... works better.

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On 19.3.2014 5:21, Bj�rn Felten -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

relay6.exe 24554 localhost 24554 /b:felten.yi.org

How stupid of me. localhost is of course translated to the IPv6
address (::1 I guess)

Of course, once I also noticed that but forgot it when writing. I did
not know your argus ipv4 lan address, so I put localhost there. Should
have put 127.0.0.1. :)

and Argus doesn't know IPv6. Lets see if

relay6.exe 24554 192.168.0.1 24554 /b:::

... works better.

Just polled you from my mobile point thru my proxy at home. However, I
cannot verify that the connection actually was IPv6. ;)

I should also try to use /b:::

Has anyone tried telnet -6 cow.rbb.bbs.fi ?

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2014-03-19 08:07:27, you wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

Has anyone tried telnet -6 cow.rbb.bbs.fi ?

# telnet -6 cow.rbb.bbs.fi
telnet: invalid option -- '6'
Usage: telnet [-8] [-E] [-L] [-S tos] [-a] [-c] [-d] [-e char] [-l user]
[-n tracefile] [-b hostalias ] [-r]
[host-name [port]]

# telnet cow.rbb.bbs.fi
Trying 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92...
Connected to cow.rbb.bbs.fi.
Escape character is '^]'.
+ Xenia Mailer 1.98.06+ OS/2 (SN:399USBJ14); Node 2:22/999@fidonet - Task 2
+ COPYRIGHT (C) 1987-1998 by Arjen G. Lentz & LENTZ SOFTWARE-DEVELOPMENT
+ This copy is licensed for use by: Tommi Koivula

Hit <ESC> twice for BBS.

OS/2 Login:



Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Wednesday March 19 2014 04:21, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

relay6.exe 24554 192.168.0.1 24554 /b:::

... works better.

D:\FIDO\BINKD>binkd -p -P203/0 binkd.cfg
10:08 [1228] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P203/0 binkd.cfg
10:08 [1228] creating a poll for 2:203/0@fidonet (`d' flavour)
10:08 [1228] clientmgr started
+ 10:08 [532] call to 2:203/0@fidonet
10:08 [532] trying felten.yi.org [2001:16d8:ff00:306::2]...
10:08 [532] connected
+ 10:08 [532] outgoing session with 2001:16d8:ff00:306::2
- 10:08 [532] OPT ENC-DES-CBC CRAM-MD5-3f42a7c71494bb05830c168c6fa9c65d
+ 10:08 [532] Remote requests MD mode
- 10:08 [532] SYS West Swedish Net
- 10:08 [532] ZYZ Bj�rn Felten
- 10:08 [532] LOC Gothenburg
- 10:08 [532] PHN 90.231.158.147
- 10:08 [532] NDL MO,CM,TCP,IFC,TEL,VMP,BND
- 10:08 [532] TIME Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:08:23 +0100
- 10:08 [532] VER Argus/3.210/ binkp/1.0
+ 10:08 [532] addr: 2:203/0@fidonet
+ 10:08 [532] addr: 2:203/2@fidonet
+ 10:08 [532] addr: 2:20/0@fidonet
+ 10:08 [532] addr: 2:2/2@fidonet
+ 10:08 [532] pwd protected session (MD5)
+ 10:08 [532] done (to 2:203/0@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
10:08 [532] session closed, quitting...
10:08 [1228] the queue is empty, quitting...


Congratulations!


Cheers, Michiel

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* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello Bj�rn,

Wednesday March 19 2014 10:09, I wrote to you:

Congratulations!

But....

- 19 Mar 10:07:52 [3456] incoming from 90.231.158.147 (3109)
+ 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] incoming session with 90.231.158.147
- 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] SYS West Swedish Net
- 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] ZYZ Bj�rn Felten
- 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] LOC Gothenburg
- 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] PHN 90.231.158.147
- 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] NDL MO,CM,TCP,IFC,TEL,VMP,BND
- 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] TIME Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:07:38 +0100
- 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] VER Argus/3.210/ binkp/1.0
+ 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] addr: 2:203/0@fidonet
+ 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] addr: 2:203/2@fidonet
+ 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] addr: 2:20/0@fidonet
+ 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] addr: 2:2/2@fidonet
+ 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] pwd protected session (MD5)
- 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] TRF 1657 0
+ 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] Remote has 1657b of mail and 0b of files for us
- 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] receiving 3389459E.PKT (1657 byte(s), off 0)
+ 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] 3389459E.PKT -> d:\fido\secure\3389459E.PKT
19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] got *.PKT, creating d:\fido\sema\toss.now
19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] got *, delayed starting d:\fido\batch\mailrcvd.bat
+ 19 Mar 10:07:53 [6044] rcvd: 3389459E.PKT (1657, 1657.00 CPS, 2:203/0@fidonet)
+ 19 Mar 10:07:53 [6044] done (from 2:203/0@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/1 (0/1657 bytes))
19 Mar 10:07:53 [6044] Running d:\fido\batch\mailrcvd.bat
- 19 Mar 10:07:53 [6044] executing `d:\fido\batch\mailrcvd.bat'
- 19 Mar 10:07:55 [6044] rc=0
19 Mar 10:07:55 [6044] session closed, quitting...


One way only?


Cheers, Michiel

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On 19.3.2014 10:26, Wilfred van Velzen -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

On 2014-03-19 08:07:27, you wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

Has anyone tried telnet -6 cow.rbb.bbs.fi ?

# telnet -6 cow.rbb.bbs.fi
telnet: invalid option -- '6'
Usage: telnet [-8] [-E] [-L] [-S tos] [-a] [-c] [-d] [-e char] [-l user]
[-n tracefile] [-b hostalias ] [-r]
[host-name [port]]

# telnet cow.rbb.bbs.fi
Trying 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92...
Connected to cow.rbb.bbs.fi.
Escape character is '^]'.
+ Xenia Mailer 1.98.06+ OS/2 (SN:399USBJ14); Node 2:22/999@fidonet - Task 2
+ COPYRIGHT (C) 1987-1998 by Arjen G. Lentz & LENTZ SOFTWARE-DEVELOPMENT + This copy is licensed for use by: Tommi Koivula

Hit <ESC> twice for BBS.

OS/2 Login:

:-)

'Tommi

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On 19.3.2014 11:26, Michiel van der Vlist -> Bj�rn Felten wrote:

MvdV> Wednesday March 19 2014 10:09, I wrote to you:

Congratulations!

MvdV> But....

MvdV> One way only?

He should use a proper proxy for outbound. Cannot be done with relay6.
I've got squid 3.3 and privoxy running in a windows computer to do the
trick.

Or he might install BinkD for outbound. ;)

'Tommi

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* Origin: *** nntp://rbb.bbs.fi *** Lake Ylo *** Finland *** (2:221/361)

Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks

1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
1:154/701 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten Tunnel SixXs Incoming only
2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4
2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net
2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Tunnel he.net
2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov Tunnel he.net
2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? vtt.ru



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MvdV> Congratulations!

Thank you. Thank you all in here, who helped me with this.

And yes, I suspected that it would be a one way road, but half a victory, I'd say.

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Or he might install BinkD for outbound. ;)

I searched the internet for a download site for BinkD. Oh boy, what a jungle... :(

Many of the links I found in the three message FAQ posted in the BINKD echo was defunct.

The FAQ was badly structured and often hard to understand -- was it written by Benny? :)

The naming convention of all the gazillion files was not according to the FAQ and was totally incomprehensible.

I downloaded a couple of packages, but they all lacked the sample config, absolutely necessary for a newbie, that I have in an old package.

Jeeezzz... What a mess they've manage to make of that project.

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Hi Bjorn,

On 2014-03-19 10:35:46, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

MvdV> 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten Tunnel SixXs Incoming
MvdV> only

I've removed the '-4' for your node from my binkd.conf ...

Bye, Wilfred.

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I've removed the '-4' for your node from my binkd.conf ...

Nice... ;)

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Wednesday March 19 2014 15:07, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

I searched the internet for a download site for BinkD. Oh boy, what
a jungle... :(

You can download the latest binkd.exe here:

https://sites.google.com/site/vasilyevmax/fido

binkd1.1a49-mingw32-ipv6-perldl.zip is the one you need for 32 bit Windows.

(Click on the d' on the right to download...)

I downloaded a couple of packages, but they all lacked the sample config, absolutely necessary for a newbie, that I have in an old
package.

Here is a link to a pretty good User Guide. It is not entirey up to date, but it was good enough for me to get started:

http://www.doe.carleton.ca/~nsoveiko/fido/binkd/man/binkd.man.html

Good luck

Jeeezzz... What a mess they've manage to make of that project.

Too many cooks...

Cheers, Michiel

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On 19.3.2014 16:07, Bj�rn Felten -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

Or he might install BinkD for outbound. ;)

The FAQ was badly structured and often hard to understand -- was it written by Benny? :)

I downloaded a couple of packages, but they all lacked the sample config, absolutely necessary for a newbie, that I have in an old package.

Jeeezzz... What a mess they've manage to make of that project.

How about:

cvs -d :pserver:binkd@cvs.happy.kiev.ua:/cvs co binkd

and you will get the latest sources with the default config file.

'Tommi

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MvdV> Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks

The weekly list in Fidonews updated accordingly.

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Wednesday March 19 2014 15:00, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Congratulations!

Thank you. Thank you all in here, who helped me with this.

And yes, I suspected that it would be a one way road, but half a victory, I'd say.

Let's say your glass is half full already. ;-)


Cheers, Michiel

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He should use a proper proxy for outbound. Cannot be done with relay6.

Are you sure? If the initiating handshake and exchange of information works, then surely there's a bi-directional connection, no?

I've looked at the source code for relay6, and found quite a few coding mistakes. I might have a go at it myself -- when time permits. 8-)

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On 19.3.2014 19:00, Bj�rn Felten -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

He should use a proper proxy for outbound. Cannot be done with relay6.

Are you sure?

Nope. ;)

But how do you tell argus where to call, when the outbound connection
has to be always made to "localhost" or the computer where relay6 is
running.

'Tommi

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But how do you tell argus where to call, when the outbound connection
has to be always made to "localhost" or the computer where relay6 is running.

Ah yes, of course. Thanks Tommi!

It's not that incoming IPv6 connections don't get what's waiting for them, it's that my Argus still calls out on IPv4.

But then again, maybe relay6 can be configured to listen to a local call and relay6 it to IPv6.

I'm learning more and more about this, thanks to you guys. Please have patience with this 65+ old fart, whose brain isn't working as well as it used to in my glory days. 8-)

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Hello Tommi!

19 Mar 14 19:49, you wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

He should use a proper proxy for outbound. Cannot be done with
relay6.

Are you sure?

Nope. ;)

But how do you tell argus where to call, when the outbound connection
has to be always made to "localhost" or the computer where relay6 is running.

At the moment that should not really be a problem. The number of nodes,
that you connect to on a regular basis using IPv6 is still small, so you
can go for an elaborate solution.

For every node you want to connect to, you make a path trough relay6, all
from localhost to remote hostname. For every node you use a different
port number on the localhost side, the outgoing port number will mostly be
24554. You will have to make a local nodelist where argus finds localhost:port
for the node to be connected to. Up til 10 or 20 nodes this should not be
a problem.


Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
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For every node you want to connect to, you make a path trough relay6, all from localhost to remote hostname. For every node you use a different port number on the localhost side, the outgoing port number will mostly be
24554. You will have to make a local nodelist where argus finds localhost:port
for the node to be connected to. Up til 10 or 20 nodes this should not be a problem.

Interesting concept indeed.

But so far there's not enough penalty for calling out with IPv4, so I think I'll leave that experiment to someone else, if you get my drift.

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Hello Wilfred!

19 Mar 2014 15:23, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Bjorn Felten:

I've removed the '-4' for your node from my binkd.conf ...

so much for nodelists


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.13.6-gentoo (i686))
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so much for nodelists

I hope that you know how to properly initiate your modem before you call my system via POTS. It's all in the nodelist, y'know... 8-)

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Wednesday March 19 2014 20:05, you wrote to Kees van Eeten:

For every node you want to connect to, you make a path trough
relay6, all from localhost to remote hostname. For every node

[..]

Up until 10 or 20 nodes this should not be a problem.

Interesting concept indeed.

Interesting indeed. But...

But so far there's not enough penalty for calling out with IPv4, so I think I'll leave that experiment to someone else, if you get my drift.

If I were you I would consider this relay6 thing an interesting experiment on the path to knowledge. Like a ride on a bike with training wheels. Now that you got the taste of it, move on to the real thing. Playing with proxies is nice to learn but it is a kludge. (As are tunnels, but we can't all get rid of them yet). Do as I do and go for the real thing now. Follow on the path that you already explored: Install an IPv76 able version of binkd.

You won't regret it. I don't.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Tommi,

On 19 Mar 14 08:07, Tommi Koivula wrote to Björn Felten:

Has anyone tried telnet -6 cow.rbb.bbs.fi ?

It works from here.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Björn,

On 19 Mar 14 15:07, Björn Felten wrote to Tommi Koivula:

I downloaded a couple of packages, but they all lacked the sample config, absolutely necessary for a newbie, that I have in an old
package.

I've put up the sample config file for you here:

http://pharcyde.org/files/binkd_sample.cfg

The original name of the file is binkd.conf-dist, but I changed it to reflect a more Windowsy system for you. :)

Should just be able to fill in the blanks and uncomment things that are well documented in that file, and be on your way with the correct Win32 version Michiel linked you to.

Regards,
Nick

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I've put up the sample config file for you here:

http://pharcyde.org/files/binkd_sample.cfg

Thanks a million. Every little piece will help. This binkd shite is really not very user friendly, if you know what I'm saying... 8-)

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Hello Michiel!

Wednesday March 19 2014 10:26, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

MvdV> But....

MvdV> - 19 Mar 10:07:52 [3456] incoming from 90.231.158.147 (3109)
MvdV> + 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] incoming session with 90.231.158.147
MvdV> - 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] SYS West Swedish Net
MvdV> - 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] ZYZ Bj�rn Felten
MvdV> - 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] LOC Gothenburg
MvdV> - 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] PHN 90.231.158.147
MvdV> - 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] NDL MO,CM,TCP,IFC,TEL,VMP,BND
MvdV> - 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] TIME Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:07:38 +0100
MvdV> - 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] VER Argus/3.210/ binkp/1.0
MvdV> + 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] addr: 2:203/0@fidonet
MvdV> + 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] addr: 2:203/2@fidonet
MvdV> + 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] addr: 2:20/0@fidonet
MvdV> + 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] addr: 2:2/2@fidonet
MvdV> + 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] pwd protected session (MD5)
MvdV> - 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] TRF 1657 0
MvdV> + 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] Remote has 1657b of mail and 0b of files for
MvdV> us - 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] receiving 3389459E.PKT (1657 byte(s), off
MvdV> 0) + 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] 3389459E.PKT ->
MvdV> d:\fido\secure\3389459E.PKT 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] got *.PKT, creating
MvdV> d:\fido\sema\toss.now 19 Mar 10:07:52 [6044] got *, delayed starting
MvdV> d:\fido\batch\mailrcvd.bat + 19 Mar 10:07:53 [6044] rcvd: 3389459E.PKT
MvdV> (1657, 1657.00 CPS, 2:203/0@fidonet) + 19 Mar 10:07:53 [6044] done
MvdV> (from 2:203/0@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/1 (0/1657 bytes)) 19 Mar 10:07:53
MvdV> [6044] Running d:\fido\batch\mailrcvd.bat - 19 Mar 10:07:53 [6044]
MvdV> executing `d:\fido\batch\mailrcvd.bat' - 19 Mar 10:07:55 [6044]
MvdV> rc=0 19 Mar 10:07:55 [6044] session closed, quitting...

MvdV> One way only?

He's still using Argus, which doesn't speak IPv6.

Andrew

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I've put up the sample config file for you here:

http://pharcyde.org/files/binkd_sample.cfg

Then again -- looks almost like the typical binkd route -- I got this:

The requested URL /files/binkd_sample.cfg was not found on this server.

I'll try a little later...

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He's still using Argus, which doesn't speak IPv6.

On outgoing, for sure. But, thanks to Tommi and friends, it sure as hell speaks IPv6 on incoming connections. Yippee! Like the man said, this glass is more than half full now. 8-)

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Hello Bj�rn!

19 Mar 14 20:05, you wrote to me:

for the node to be connected to. Up til 10 or 20 nodes this should
not be a problem.

Interesting concept indeed.

But so far there's not enough penalty for calling out with IPv4, so I think I'll leave that experiment to someone else, if you get my drift.

Well it was an answer to Tommi, so who knows what wil happen.

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
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Hello Bj�rn!

20 Mar 14 00:15, you wrote to Andrew Leary:

He's still using Argus, which doesn't speak IPv6.

On outgoing, for sure. But, thanks to Tommi and friends, it sure as hell speaks IPv6 on incoming connections. Yippee! Like the man said, this glass is more than half full now. 8-)

Well I beleive, you two together have one full glass. Adrew can only do
outgoing IPv6. ;-)

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
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Hello All!

20 Mar 14 00:41, I wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

On outgoing, for sure. But, thanks to Tommi and friends, it sure as
hell speaks IPv6 on incoming connections. Yippee! Like the man said,
this glass is more than half full now. 8-)

Well I beleive, you two together have one full glass. Adrew can only do
outgoing IPv6. ;-)

When I sent the previous message, it crossed a request from Andrew to test his
system again, as he had found something that was not in order. The test to
his system was successfull, so Adrew now fully supports IPv5 as well.

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
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Hello Kees!

Thursday March 20 2014 00:54, Kees van Eeten wrote to All:

When I sent the previous message, it crossed a request from Andrew to test his system again, as he had found something that was not in
order. The test to his system was successfull, so Adrew now fully supports IPv5 as well.

Well, IPv6... ;-)

Andrew

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On 19.3.2014 20:00, Bj�rn Felten -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

But how do you tell argus where to call, when the outbound connection
has to be always made to "localhost" or the computer where relay6 is
running.

Ah yes, of course. Thanks Tommi!

It's not that incoming IPv6 connections don't get what's waiting for them, it's that my Argus still calls out on IPv4.

But then again, maybe relay6 can be configured to listen to a local call and relay6 it to IPv6.

Maybe so. But I think you should use for example squid for that. It will
by default try ipv6 first and ipv4 next. ;)

'Tommi

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On 19.3.2014 20:22, Kees van Eeten -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

At the moment that should not really be a problem. The number of
nodes, that you connect to on a regular basis using IPv6 is still
small, so you can go for an elaborate solution.

There is very small amount of ipv6-only nodes. <g>

For every node you want to connect to, you make a path trough relay6,
all from localhost to remote hostname. For every node you use a
different port number on the localhost side, the outgoing port number will mostly be 24554. You will have to make a local nodelist where
argus finds localhost:port for the node to be connected to. Up til 10
or 20 nodes this should not be a problem.

Quite complex solution but sure it can be done that way. ;)

Using for example Privoxy for outbound doesn't need any
per-node-configuration. I can poll your ipv6-only node from my ipv4-only
point by only nodelist information.

'Tommi

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On 20.3.2014 0:33, Nicholas Boel -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

Has anyone tried telnet -6 cow.rbb.bbs.fi ?

It works from here.

Thank You!

'Tommi

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On 20.3.2014 1:15, Bj�rn Felten -> Andrew Leary wrote:

On outgoing, for sure. But, thanks to Tommi and friends, it sure as
hell speaks IPv6 on incoming connections. Yippee! Like the man said,
this glass is more than half full now. 8-)

8-)

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Hello Andrew!

19 Mar 14 23:20, you wrote to me:

When I sent the previous message, it crossed a request from Andrew
to test his system again, as he had found something that was not in
order. The test to his system was successfull, so Adrew now fully
supports IPv5 as well.

Well, IPv6... ;-)

Yes ofcourse. I sent you a direct e-mail after the test. Connections are
made, but delivery is rejected due to "Password Error".

I did not check on the delivery last night, it was 01:15 and past my bedtime.
This morning I decovered that delivery was attempted every 30 minits.
Ik have put it on hold now. Can you send me a session password?

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
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Hello Tommi!

20 Mar 14 09:47, you wrote to me:

There is very small amount of ipv6-only nodes. <g>

I know, and it has no role in the mail and echo distribution through the net.

For every node you want to connect to, you make a path trough
relay6,
all from localhost to remote hostname. For every node you use a
different port number on the localhost side, the outgoing port number
will mostly be 24554. You will have to make a local nodelist where
argus finds localhost:port for the node to be connected to. Up til 10
or 20 nodes this should not be a problem.

Quite complex solution but sure it can be done that way. ;)

It was just a suggestion, that would not require the installation and
configuring of yet another software package.

Using for example Privoxy for outbound doesn't need any per-node-configuration. I can poll your ipv6-only node from my ipv4-only point by only nodelist information.

I am certain, that that is a more usefull solution.

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hello Bj�rn,

On 20 Mar 14 00:03, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

I've put up the sample config file for you here:

http://pharcyde.org/files/binkd_sample.cfg

Thanks a million. Every little piece will help. This binkd shite is really not very user friendly, if you know what I'm saying... 8-)

Of course.

Let me take a minute to apologize as well, I didn't rename the file, so it was binkd.conf-dist all day today until I noticed when I got home and changed it. Apparantly I renamed the one in it's original location thinking I was in a different directory. :)

Now that link should work as expected.

Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: Dark Sorrow | darksorrow.us (1:154/701)

Hello Bj�rn,

On 20 Mar 14 00:05, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

http://pharcyde.org/files/binkd_sample.cfg

Then again -- looks almost like the typical binkd route -- I got
this:

The requested URL /files/binkd_sample.cfg was not found on this
server.

I'll try a little later...

Yep. Sorry about that. Should work now that I finally renamed the right one. :)

Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: Dark Sorrow | darksorrow.us (1:154/701)

Hello Bj�rn,

On Thursday March 20 2014 00:15, you wrote to Andrew Leary:

On outgoing, for sure. But, thanks to Tommi and friends, it sure as hell speaks IPv6 on incoming connections. Yippee! Like the man said,
this glass is more than half full now. 8-)

But now that you tasted the nectar, do you not want to go for the full glass?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

The requested URL /files/binkd_sample.cfg was not found on this
server.

I'll try a little later...

Yep. Sorry about that. Should work now that I finally renamed the right one. :)

No problem, mate! Yes this time it worked, and now I got a sample config with the year 2013 in it. But I saw no mentioning of IPv6 in it?

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
* Origin: news://felten.yi.org (2:203/2)

Hello Michiel!

19 Mar 2014 17:16, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

MvdV> Hello Bj�rn,
MvdV> On Wednesday March 19 2014 15:00, you wrote to me:
MvdV>>> Congratulations!

Thank you. Thank you all in here, who helped me with this.
And yes, I suspected that it would be a one way road, but half a
victory, I'd say.

MvdV> Let's say your glass is half full already. ;-)

its half empty, not half full, full is when one is drunk :)


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.13.6-gentoo (i686))
* Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)

Hello Bj�rn!

19 Mar 2014 21:08, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Benny Pedersen:

so much for nodelists

I hope that you know how to properly initiate your modem before you
call my system via POTS. It's all in the nodelist, y'know... 8-)

as mo one in danmark does not use analoge tv's why would i have to use analog modems to connect to fidonet ?


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.13.6-gentoo (i686))
* Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)

Hello Andrew!

19 Mar 2014 17:56, Andrew Leary wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

He's still using Argus, which doesn't speak IPv6.

and it would still work with 6to4, or simple as squid proxy, i have the same problem with qico outgoing, but not incomming, the easy fix is to let qico use snat in firewall to redirect all connection via squid, thats why its important do NOT use ips in nodelists


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.13.6-gentoo (i686))
* Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)

Hello Tommi!

20 Mar 2014 09:41, Tommi Koivula wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

Maybe so. But I think you should use for example squid for that. It
will by default try ipv6 first and ipv4 next. ;)

and set nocache to binkd port acl in squid


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.13.6-gentoo (i686))
* Origin: duggi.junc.org where qico is waiting (1:261/38.20)

Hello Bj�rn,

On 21 Mar 14 01:26, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

No problem, mate! Yes this time it worked, and now I got a sample config with the year 2013 in it. But I saw no mentioning of IPv6 in
it?

Incoming IPv6 is handled internally (I believe). For outgoing, check the "node" section at the bottom of the sample config file. You can force outgoing calls with the "-6" and "-4" options.

Although, you probably already know that most software will always try IPv6 first, and fall back to IPv4 (binkd does this), unless configured differently.


Regards,
Nick

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
* Origin: Dark Sorrow | darksorrow.us (1:154/701)

List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 20 March 2014


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks

1:320/219 Andrew Leary Tunnel SixXs
1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
1:154/701 Nicholas Boel Tunnel he.net
2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten Tunnel SixXs Incoming only
2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4
2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net
2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Tunnel he.net
2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov Tunnel he.net
2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? vtt.ru

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 22 April 2014


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks

1:320/219 Andrew Leary Tunnel SixXs
1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l Tunnel he.net
2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten Tunnel SixXs Incoming only
2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4
2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net
2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Tunnel he.net
2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov Tunnel he.net
2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? vtt.ru


--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 30 April 2014


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks

1:320/219 Andrew Leary Tunnel SixXs
1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l Tunnel he.net
2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten Tunnel SixXs Incoming only
2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4
2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist AYIYA SixXs
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net
2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Tunnel he.net
2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov Tunnel he.net
2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? vtt.ru
3:712/848 Scott Litle 6to4 ?? Incoming only

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello Rudi,

I can't put you on the list yet, I have not been able to connect to your system.

I tried:

2a02:1811:901:5a00:9cdc:b4eb:e92b:aeb4
2a02:1811:901:5a00:9038:5f7:535f:b0d1
xtremebbs.dyndns.info

No IPv6 connect...

Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hi Michiel,

2a02:1811:901:5a00:9cdc:b4eb:e92b:aeb4
2a02:1811:901:5a00:9038:5f7:535f:b0d1
xtremebbs.dyndns.info
No IPv6 connect...

No problem yes i have see my IP changes and i have just check my dyndns and it's now also changed there so i have no static IP here sorry...

Greetings,

Rudi

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
* Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)

Hello Rudi,

On Thursday May 01 2014 15:36, you wrote to me:

Hi Michiel,

2a02:1811:901:5a00:9cdc:b4eb:e92b:aeb4
2a02:1811:901:5a00:9038:5f7:535f:b0d1
xtremebbs.dyndns.info
No IPv6 connect...

I now get a connect at the address ending in aeb4:

22:34 [5556] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P562/140 binkd.cfg
22:34 [5556] creating a poll for 2:562/140@fidonet (`d' flavour)
22:34 [5556] clientmgr started
+ 22:34 [9264] call to 2:562/140@fidonet
22:34 [9264] trying 2a02:1811:901:5a00:9cdc:b4eb:e92b:aeb4 [2a02:1811:901:5a00:9cdc:b4eb:e92b:aeb4]...
22:34 [9264] connected
+ 22:34 [9264] outgoing session with 2a02:1811:901:5a00:9cdc:b4eb:e92b:aeb4
- 22:34 [9264] OPT CRAM-MD5-b1b4ddcb7bd8e8d50167419a9b34ffee
+ 22:34 [9264] Remote requests MD mode
- 22:34 [9264] SYS X-TReMe BBS
- 22:34 [9264] ZYZ Rudi Timmermans
- 22:34 [9264] LOC Leuven, Belgium
- 22:34 [9264] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
- 22:34 [9264] TIME Thu, 1 May 2014 22:33:34 +0200
- 22:34 [9264] VER binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 binkp/1.1
+ 22:34 [9264] addr: 2:562/140@fidonet
- 22:34 [9264] OPT EXTCMD
+ 22:34 [9264] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 22:34 [9264] done (to 2:562/140@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
22:34 [9264] session closed, quitting...
22:34 [5556] the queue is empty, quitting...

But xtremebbbs.dyndns.info returns: 2a02:1811:901:5a00:a476:3955:79fa:50ab

That also connects now:

D:\FIDO\BINKD>binkd -p -P562/140 binkd.cfg
22:40 [9964] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P562/140 binkd.cfg
22:40 [9964] creating a poll for 2:562/140@fidonet (`d' flavour)
22:40 [9964] clientmgr started
+ 22:40 [9884] call to 2:562/140@fidonet
22:40 [9884] trying xtremebbs.dyndns.info [2a02:1811:901:5a00:a476:3955:79fa:50ab]...
22:40 [9884] connected
+ 22:40 [9884] outgoing session with 2a02:1811:901:5a00:a476:3955:79fa:50ab
- 22:40 [9884] OPT CRAM-MD5-5b58b684080a3c28eee8c41445e1b1ee
+ 22:40 [9884] Remote requests MD mode
- 22:40 [9884] SYS X-TReMe BBS
- 22:40 [9884] ZYZ Rudi Timmermans
- 22:40 [9884] LOC Leuven, Belgium
- 22:40 [9884] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
- 22:40 [9884] TIME Thu, 1 May 2014 22:40:14 +0200
- 22:40 [9884] VER binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 binkp/1.1
+ 22:40 [9884] addr: 2:562/140@fidonet
- 22:40 [9884] OPT EXTCMD
+ 22:40 [9884] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 22:40 [9884] done (to 2:562/140@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
22:40 [9884] session closed, quitting...
22:40 [9964] the queue is empty, quitting...

No problem yes i have see my IP changes and i have just check my
dyndns and it's now also changed there so i have no static IP here sorry...

You have a dynamic IPv6 address? That sucks....

What connection do you have? Native? Tunnel? Which provider?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hi Michiel!

01 May 14 13:16, you wrote to me:

MvdV> 2a02:1811:901:5a00:9cdc:b4eb:e92b:aeb4
MvdV> 2a02:1811:901:5a00:9038:5f7:535f:b0d1
MvdV> xtremebbs.dyndns.info

MvdV> No IPv6 connect...

Like i told i dont have a static Ipv6 adress here and i just check with a port scanner my dyndns i have a pay account there and it's support Ipv6 also and sync my changed adress normoly automatic, this is the results of my port scanner outside my own local network:

Online Port Scanner IPv6

The Online Port Scanner allows you to scan a host or IPv6 address for an open or closed TCP port. If a response is received from the given host/IP on the specified port within 8 seconds after scanning, a confirmation will appear. This is a great online scanning utility to check if an IP, host or service can be reached from the internet and especially if the TCP port is open or closed.

Checked port 24554 on Host/IP xtremebbs.dyndns.info...

The checked port (24554, service binkp) is online/reachable!

Completed portscan in 0.2025 seconds

Best regards!
Rudi Timmermans.

--- X-TReMe binkd - Telnet:xtremebinkd.dyndns.info:1024
* Origin: X-TReMe binkd - Telnet:xtremebinkd.dyndns.info:1 (2:562/140@FidoNet)

Hello Rudi,

On Thursday May 01 2014 22:53, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> 2a02:1811:901:5a00:9cdc:b4eb:e92b:aeb4
MvdV>> 2a02:1811:901:5a00:9038:5f7:535f:b0d1
MvdV>> xtremebbs.dyndns.info

Which resolves to 2a02:1811:901:5a00:a476:3955:79fa:50ab

What all these adresses have in common is the prefix: 2a02:1811:901:5a00

MvdV>> No IPv6 connect...

Like i told i dont have a static Ipv6 adress here

I wonder why it keeps changing. The prefix is the same, so it does not come from your provider. It is only the host part of the address that changes. So the change must come from your own system!

and i just check with a port scanner my dyndns i have a pay account
there and it's support Ipv6 also and sync my changed adress normoly automatic,

Ah ... wait... You would not by any chance have your windows configured to use privacy settings so that it keeps changing the IPv6 address usef for OUTGOING connections would you?

Because then every time your systen phones home to dydndns, they will see the changed address.

Don't do that. Give your system a manually configured fixed IPv6 address. Or use SLAAC and add the first address - thge one derived from the MAC address be the one that is attached as an AAAA record to xtremebbs.dyndns.info. Tell dynddns it is a static address....


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 30 April 2014


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remarks

1:320/219 Andrew Leary Tunnel SixXs
1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l Tunnel he.net
2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten Tunnel SixXs Incoming only
2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Tunnel 6to4
2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All IPv6 only
2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Tunnel SixXs
2:562/140 Rudi Timmermans Native telenet
2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov Tunnel he.net
2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Tunnel he.net
2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov Tunnel he.net
2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? vtt.ru
3:712/848 Scott Litle Tunnel 6t04 Incoming only


--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 22 May 2014


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-? l SixXs
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6to4 ?
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? vtt.ru
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
12 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs IO
13 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
14 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6to4 IO
15 2:562/140 Rudi Timmermans Native telenet
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?

Tunnel type:

T-6in4 Static 6in4
T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
T-6to4 6to4

Remarks:

IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
but is configured to try IPv4 first)

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

23 May 14 09:25, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6to4 ?

The provider is my router. ;-)

Some weeks ago I installed a new router basically for IPv6. Asus RT-N10U supports 6to4 and ip6tables out of the box.

'Tommi

---
* Origin: 2002:5b9b:69cc:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92 (2:221/6)

Hello Michiel!

Friday May 23 2014 09:25, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

MvdV> 6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-? l SixXs

MvdV> T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA

My tunnel is currently AYIYA.

Andrew

---
* Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * V.Everything! * 860/535-4284 (1:320/119)

Hello Andrew,

On Friday May 23 2014 19:45, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> 6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-? l SixXs

MvdV>> T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA

My tunnel is currently AYIYA.

OK. Sorry, the update didn't make it into the Snooze. I am away from home attending a yearly hamfest.

With a bit of luck the update will make it into nexte week's Snooze.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: Michiel's laptop (2:280/5555.1)

Hello Tommi,

On Friday May 23 2014 12:00, you wrote to me:

Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6to4 ?

The provider is my router. ;-)

Eh?

Some weeks ago I installed a new router basically for IPv6. Asus
RT-N10U supports 6to4 and ip6tables out of the box.

Very nice!

But I am still puzzled about what I should enter as your provider. Thos 6to4 packete emanating from your router must enter the net somehow...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: Michiel's laptop (2:280/5555.1)

On 26.5.2014 12:59, Michiel van der Vlist -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

Some weeks ago I installed a new router basically for IPv6. Asus
RT-N10U supports 6to4 and ip6tables out of the box.

MvdV> Very nice!

MvdV> But I am still puzzled about what I should enter as your provider. Thos
MvdV> 6to4 packete emanating from your router must enter the net somehow...

Indeed. I have no tunnel with anyone. :)

'Tommi

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0
* Origin: *** nntp://rbb.bbs.fi *** Lake Ylo *** Finland *** (2:221/360)

Hello Tommi,

On Tuesday May 27 2014 10:01, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> But I am still puzzled about what I should enter as your
MvdV>> provider. Thos 6to4 packete emanating from your router must
MvdV>> enter the net somehow...

Indeed. I have no tunnel with anyone. :)

A tunnel can not exist without something to tunnel through.

The "something to tunnel through" is the IPv4 internet, which is brought to you by a provider. No provider, no tunnel...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: Michiel's laptop (2:280/5555.1)

Wednesday May 28 2014 15:16, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tommi Koivula:

MvdV>>> But I am still puzzled about what I should enter as your
MvdV>>> provider. Thos 6to4 packete emanating from your router must
MvdV>>> enter the net somehow...

Indeed. I have no tunnel with anyone. :)

A tunnel can not exist without something to tunnel through.

The "something to tunnel through" is the IPv4 internet, which is
brought to you by a provider. No provider, no tunnel...

Yes.

I do not know how 6to4 works. But it works good enough for me. :)

'Tommi

---
* Origin: 2002:5b9b:69cc:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92 (2:221/6)

Hello Tommi,

On Wednesday May 28 2014 21:04, you wrote to me:

I do not know how 6to4 works.

Here is a good start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6to4

But it works good enough for me. :)

And here is why it does not always work:

https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/6to4-why-is-it-so-bad

And how about this from Geoff Huston:

In general, 6to4 is a relatively poor approach to provisioning IPv6, and really should be avoided if at all possible. Indeed, the user experience will probably be better overall if you stay running IPv4 and avoid accessing IPv6 via 6to4.

See: http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2011-02/transtools-part1.html


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: Michiel's laptop (2:280/5555.1)

List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 23 October 2014


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-6in4 he.net
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6to4
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? vtt.ru
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
13 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs IO
14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6to4 IO
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?
17 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native? ?
18 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
19 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4

Tunnel type:

T-6in4 Static 6in4
T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
T-6to4 6to4

Remarks:

IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
but is configured to try IPv4 first)


--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20130111
* Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555)

Hello, Michiel van der Vlist.
On 23.10.14 17:47 you wrote:

8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich ? vtt.ru

Michiel, can you correct description of my node?
I've normal native dual stack connectivity to Internet for Inbound & Outbound connection. My ISP is TTK-Volga, the site is http://volga.ttk.ru and I work at it.
DNS name of node 2:5053/54 is ftpserver.org.ru

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Hello Denis,

On Friday October 24 2014 12:51, you wrote to me:

Michiel, can you correct description of my node?
I've normal native dual stack connectivity to Internet for Inbound & Outbound connection. My ISP is TTK-Volga, the site is
http://volga.ttk.ru and I work at it. DNS name of node 2:5053/54 is ftpserver.org.ru

Done.

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73, de PA0MMV


Cheers, Michiel

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List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 24 October 2014


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-6in4 he.net
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6to4
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
13 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs IO
14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6to4 IO
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?
17 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native? ?
18 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
19 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4

Tunnel type:

T-6in4 Static 6in4
T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
T-6to4 6to4

Remarks:

IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
but is configured to try IPv4 first)

Notes:

To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
node config). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
(2002::/16) Windows defaults to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


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List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 12 November 2014


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-6in4 he.net
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6to4
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
13 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs IO
14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6to4 IO
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?
17 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native? ?
18 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
19 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4
20 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native
21 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native T-Mobile


Tunnel type:

T-6in4 Static 6in4
T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
T-6to4 6to4

Remarks:

IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
but is configured to try IPv4 first)

Notes:

To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
node config). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
(2002::/16) Windows defaults to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


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On 16.11.2014 14:11, Michiel van der Vlist -> All wrote:

MvdV> 7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6to4

Some weeks ago, when I was away, my 6to4 stopped working. I don't know why. Anyway, now I've got 6in4 tunnel from he.net and the ipv6 should be static.

host f6.n221.z2.binkp.net

f6.n221.z2.binkp.net is an alias for cow.rbb.bbs.fi.
cow.rbb.bbs.fi has IPv6 address 2001:470:1f15:cb0:20c:29ff:fe29:5bd4

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi,

On Saturday November 22 2014 22:00, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> 7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6to4

Some weeks ago, when I was away, my 6to4 stopped working. I don't know why. Anyway, now I've got 6in4 tunnel from he.net and the ipv6 should
be static.

Ok, thanks for the info. I will update the list.


Cheers, Michiel

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List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 26 November 2014


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-6in4 he.net
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
13 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs
14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?
17 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native? ?
18 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
19 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4
20 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native
21 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native T-Mobile
22 2:222/2 Kim Heino T-6in4 he.net
23 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh T-6in4 he.net

Tunnel type:

T-6in4 Static 6in4
T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
T-6to4 6to4

Remarks:

IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
but is configured to try IPv4 first)

Notes:

To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
node config). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
(2002::/16) Windows defaults to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


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Hello All,


=== Cut ===
List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 6 January 2014


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-6in4 he.net
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net INO4
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
13 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs
14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?
17 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native? ?
18 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
19 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4
20 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native
21 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native T-Mobile
22 2:222/2 Kim Heino T-6in4 he.net
23 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh T-6in4 he.net
24 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net
25 1:266/404 Bill McGarrity Native Comcast

Tunnel type:

T-6in4 Static 6in4
T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
T-6to4 6to4
T-6RD 6RD

Remarks:

IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
but is configured to try IPv4 first)

Notes:

To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
node config). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
(2002::/16) Windows defaults to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


=== Cut ===




Cheers, Michiel

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On 01-07-15 16:35, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All <=-

=== Cut ===
List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 6 January 2014

Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-6in4 he.net
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net INO4
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo.l T-6in4 he.net
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo.l T-6in4 he.net
13 2:203/0 Bj.rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs
14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?
17 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native? ?
18 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
19 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4
20 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native
21 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native T-Mobile
22 2:222/2 Kim Heino T-6in4 he.net
23 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh T-6in4 he.net
24 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net
25 1:266/404 Bill McGarrity Native Comcast

Wow... I'm the first Native node in z1...:)


Bill

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Wow... I'm the first Native node in z1...:)

Yeah, well, North America has always been a bit behind lately, when it comes to technological development... <evil grin>

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Hello Bill!

Wednesday January 07 2015 11:34, Bill McGarrity wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Wow... I'm the first Native node in z1...:)

Comcast is supposedly IPv6 ready nationwide, but as of yet my connection does not get an IPv6 address, even though both the modem and router support it. Until they get their act together, my he.net tunnels work fine. I also have a SiXXS tunnel that I use at work with few issues.

Andrew

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Hello Bill,

On 07 Jan 15 11:34, Bill McGarrity wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Wow... I'm the first Native node in z1...:)

Yup. I'm patiently awaiting my email from Time Warner letting me know it's enabled in my area... Still waiting..

At least Time Warner was bought out by Comcast, so at least I can be guaranteed it will end up here at some point. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Björn,

On 07 Jan 15 18:45, Björn Felten wrote to Bill McGarrity:

Wow... I'm the first Native node in z1...:)

Yeah, well, North America has always been a bit behind lately, when
it comes to technological development... <evil grin>

LOL. And where's your native IPv6, smartass? NA is on the FIPv6 list before Sweden! NEENER NEENER! :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Andrew,

On 07 Jan 15 12:28, Andrew Leary wrote to Bill McGarrity:

Comcast is supposedly IPv6 ready nationwide, but as of yet my
connection does not get an IPv6 address, even though both the modem
and router support it. Until they get their act together, my he.net tunnels work fine. I also have a SiXXS tunnel that I use at work with
few issues.

That's what Time Warner says also. Which they are, but I think the last I checked they were 90% nationwide. I just so happen to be in that 10% that isn't.

Regards,
Nick

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On 01-07-15 12:28, Andrew Leary wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Hiya Andrew..

Wednesday January 07 2015 11:34, Bill McGarrity wrote to Michiel van
der Vlist:

Wow... I'm the first Native node in z1...:)

Comcast is supposedly IPv6 ready nationwide, but as of yet my
connection does not get an IPv6 address, even though both the modem and router support it. Until they get their act together, my he.net tunnels work fine. I also have a SiXXS tunnel that I use at work with few
issues.

That's quite surprising being you live in CT. I am sure you'll get it soon.


Bill

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Web: bbs.tequilamockingbirdonline.net
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Hello Bill!

Wednesday January 07 2015 20:01, Bill McGarrity wrote to Andrew Leary:

Comcast is supposedly IPv6 ready nationwide, but as of yet my
connection does not get an IPv6 address, even though both the
modem and router support it. Until they get their act together,
my he.net tunnels work fine. I also have a SiXXS tunnel that I
use at work with few issues.

That's quite surprising being you live in CT. I am sure you'll get it soon.

It doesn't surprise me, since I know that the system here was originally built by a small local company which Comcast then purchased. It took them several years to offer cable modem service after they took over (the excuse was they needed to replace copper lines with fiber.) It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they had to replace the CMTS to offer IPv6, and that probably would be very low on the priority list of equipment upgrades, unless something happened that forced the issue such as a severe lightning strike taking out the equipment.

Andrew

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On 01-07-15 17:14, Nicholas Boel wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Hiya Nick....

On 07 Jan 15 11:34, Bill McGarrity wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Wow... I'm the first Native node in z1...:)

Yup. I'm patiently awaiting my email from Time Warner letting me know
it's enabled in my area... Still waiting..

At least Time Warner was bought out by Comcast, so at least I can be guaranteed it will end up here at some point. :)

Careful what you wish for. Comcast's customer service sucks!! ;)


Bill

Telnet: tequilamockingbirdonline.net
Web: bbs.tequilamockingbirdonline.net
FTP: ftp.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:2121
IRC: irc.tequilamockingbirdonline.net Ports: 6661-6670 SSL: +6697
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Hello Andrew,

On Wednesday January 07 2015 22:28, you wrote to Bill McGarrity:

That's quite surprising being you live in CT. I am sure you'll
get it soon.

It doesn't surprise me, since I know that the system here was
originally built by a small local company which Comcast then
purchased. It took them several years to offer cable modem service
after they took over (the excuse was they needed to replace copper
lines with fiber.)

Ever so often these take overs or mergers just slow things down. Something similar is going on here right now. In The Netherlands we have two big cable companies: UPC en Ziggo. They are in the process of merging into one big cable copmpany. So now they are so busy with the merger that the IPv6 roll out that they both planned for last year has been put on the back burner... :-(


Cheers, Michiel

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On 01-08-15 10:52, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Andrew Leary <=-

Hiya Michiel...

On Wednesday January 07 2015 22:28, you wrote to Bill McGarrity:

That's quite surprising being you live in CT. I am sure you'll
get it soon.

It doesn't surprise me, since I know that the system here was
originally built by a small local company which Comcast then
purchased. It took them several years to offer cable modem service
after they took over (the excuse was they needed to replace copper
lines with fiber.)

Ever so often these take overs or mergers just slow things down. Something similar is going on here right now. In The Netherlands we
have two big cable companies: UPC en Ziggo. They are in the process of merging into one big cable copmpany. So now they are so busy with the merger that the IPv6 roll out that they both planned for last year has been put on the back burner... :-(

Probably due to the fact neither wants to pay for it.. lol!!


Bill

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Web: bbs.tequilamockingbirdonline.net
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Probably due to the fact neither wants to pay for it.. lol!!

And yet we all know who ends up with the bill in the end... :(

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On 01-08-15 18:28, Bj.rn Felten wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Probably due to the fact neither wants to pay for it.. lol!!

And yet we all know who ends up with the bill in the end... :(

Isn't that the truth. BTW, what'smthe cost of diesel over your way these days?



Bill

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Hello Bill,

On 08 Jan 15 02:17, Bill McGarrity wrote to Nicholas Boel:

At least Time Warner was bought out by Comcast, so at least I can
be guaranteed it will end up here at some point. :)

Careful what you wish for. Comcast's customer service sucks!! ;)

I have heard this also. That's the one thing I can say about TWC that is still good. Their service as well as their customer service are top notch, but Comcast has seemed to open up the bandwith much more for a better price. As long as the service is reliable, hopefully I won't have to deal with their customer service much! :)

Regards,
Nick

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On 01-08-15 14:58, Nicholas Boel wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Hiya Nick..

On 08 Jan 15 02:17, Bill McGarrity wrote to Nicholas Boel:

At least Time Warner was bought out by Comcast, so at least I can
be guaranteed it will end up here at some point. :)

Careful what you wish for. Comcast's customer service sucks!! ;)

I have heard this also. That's the one thing I can say about TWC that
is still good. Their service as well as their customer service are top notch, but Comcast has seemed to open up the bandwith much more for a better price. As long as the service is reliable, hopefully I won't
have to deal with their customer service much! :)

They try hard to give a solution... but normally you have to run up the ladder to a supervisor to get anything accomplished. Once they agree, then you're pretty much home free. I only have them for internet service... the tv is DirecTV. Before I moved I had Cablevision... they were excellent. Dolan knows how to run a cable provider but he sucks as an owner of a basketball team.. lol!!


Bill

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Hello Bill,

On Thursday January 08 2015 11:00, you wrote to me:

Ever so often these take overs or mergers just slow things down.
Something similar is going on here right now. In The Netherlands
we have two big cable companies: UPC en Ziggo. They are in the
process of merging into one big cable copmpany. So now they are
so busy with the merger that the IPv6 roll out that they both
planned for last year has been put on the back burner... :-(

Probably due to the fact neither wants to pay for it.. lol!!

One of the problems with the introduction of IPv6 is that there is no short term bussines case for it. Everyone knows that in the long run it is unavoidable, but for the short term there is no return on investment. So the temptation to postpone it yet another year so that THIS year's figures will look excellent is always great. :-(


Cheers, Michiel

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On 01-09-15 01:35, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

On Thursday January 08 2015 11:00, you wrote to me:

Ever so often these take overs or mergers just slow things down.
Something similar is going on here right now. In The Netherlands
we have two big cable companies: UPC en Ziggo. They are in the
process of merging into one big cable copmpany. So now they are
so busy with the merger that the IPv6 roll out that they both
planned for last year has been put on the back burner... :-(

Probably due to the fact neither wants to pay for it.. lol!!

One of the problems with the introduction of IPv6 is that there is no short term bussines case for it. Everyone knows that in the long run it is unavoidable, but for the short term there is no return on
investment. So the temptation to postpone it yet another year so that THIS year's figures will look excellent is always great. :-(

It always comes down to the money... :/


Bill

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BTW, what'smthe cost of diesel over your way these days?

SEK 12.20 (USD 1.53) per litre.

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On 01-09-15 11:58, Bj.rn Felten wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

BTW, what'smthe cost of diesel over your way these days?

SEK 12.20 (USD 1.53) per litre.

OUCH.... we're USD 0.755 (SEK 6.07) per litre...

I'm hoping these prices hold till after the summer but I'm sure that's a million to one shot.


Bill

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Hello Björn,

On 09 Jan 15 11:58, Björn Felten wrote to Bill McGarrity:

BTW, what'smthe cost of diesel over your way these days?

SEK 12.20 (USD 1.53) per litre.

~3.7854 litres per US gallon? Wow, if my math is right, we're paying almost half that!

Regards,
Nick

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~3.7854 litres per US gallon? Wow, if my math is right, we're paying almost half that!

I know. That's why you produce twice as much greenhouse gases than we do.

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Hello Bill!

09 Jan 15 09:33, you wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

On 01-09-15 11:58, Bj.rn Felten wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

BTW, what'smthe cost of diesel over your way these days?

SEK 12.20 (USD 1.53) per litre.

OUCH.... we're USD 0.755 (SEK 6.07) per litre...

In 2011 I paid 14.25 NOK per litre in Mehan, far in the North of Norway.
At todays exchangerate that would be USD 1.86

On the other hand you cannot blame them to charge such prices, it is quite
a job to get it there.

Kees

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...-=> On 01-09-15 08:59, Nicholas Boel wrote to Bj..rn Felten <=-

On 09 Jan 15 11:58, Bj..rn Felten wrote to Bill McGarrity:

BTW, what'smthe cost of diesel over your way these days?

SEK 12.20 (USD 1.53) per litre.

~3.7854 litres per US gallon? Wow, if my math is right, we're paying almost half that!

I'm getting it on average of $2.85 per.


Bill

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Hello All,

On Friday January 09 2015 17:54, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

~3.7854 litres per US gallon? Wow, if my math is right, we're
paying almost half that!

I know. That's why you produce twice as much greenhouse gases than
we do.

Guys please. We are drifting too far from the topic of this area which is IPv6.


Michiel van der Vlist
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On 01-09-15 17:54, Bj.rn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel <=-

~3.7854 litres per US gallon? Wow, if my math is right, we're paying almost half that!

I know. That's why you produce twice as much greenhouse gases than
we do.

But I run a clean diesel... DEF yanno. Gotta love urea.. :)


Bill

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On 01-09-15 20:31, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All <=-

Hello All,

On Friday January 09 2015 17:54, Bj.rn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

~3.7854 litres per US gallon? Wow, if my math is right, we're
paying almost half that!

I know. That's why you produce twice as much greenhouse gases than
we do.

Guys please. We are drifting too far from the topic of this area which
is IPv6.

Agreed... I moved my last reply to Kees to FN_SYSOP...


Bill

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List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 27 February 2015


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-6in4 he.net
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net INO4
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l Native TWC
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo�l Native TWC
13 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs
14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?
17 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native? ?
18 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
19 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4
20 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native
21 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native T-Mobile
22 2:222/2 Kim Heino T-6in4 he.net
23 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh T-6in4 he.net
24 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net
25 1:266/404 Bill McGarrity Native Comcast

Tunnel type:

T-6in4 Static 6in4
T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
T-6to4 6to4
T-6RD 6RD

Remarks:

IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
but is configured to try IPv4 first)

Notes:

To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
node config). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
(2002::/16) Windows defaults to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


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List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 5 March 2015


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-6in4 he.net
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net INO4
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l Native TWC
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo�l Native TWC
13 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs
14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?
17 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native? ?
18 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
19 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4
20 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native
21 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native T-Mobile
22 2:222/2 Kim Heino T-6in4 he.net
23 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh T-6in4 he.net
24 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net
25 1:266/404 Bill McGarrity Native Comcast
26 1:135/371 Eric Renfro T-6RD ATT


Tunnel type:

T-6in4 Static 6in4
T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
T-6to4 6to4
T-6RD 6RD

Remarks:

IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
but is configured to try IPv4 first)

Notes:

To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
node config). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
(2002::/16) Windows defaults to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


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Hello Michiel,

On 06 Mar 15 01:12, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

11 1:154/10 Nicholas Boël Native TWC
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Boël Native TWC

Please change both of these back to he.net 6in4 tunnels. It seems as though my ISP is still in the testing phase of rolling out IPv6 in my area. I, as well as others, started noticing intermittent v6 connections over the weekend, and then last night at some point they stopped completely.. oddly enough, I had decided to flash my router to the latest firmware, and when successful, I had no native IPv6 anymore. I quickly setup a new tunnel and got everything running smoothly again so hopefully not many would notice.

Anyhow, seems I was a bit premature to get all excited, and probably won't go back to try it again until they either confirm via email (like they said they would) or I see it in action firsthand and let them work the kinks out of it.

Regards,
Nick

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List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 9 March 2015


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-6in4 he.net
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net INO4
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in6 he.net
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
13 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs
14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?
17 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native? ?
18 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
19 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4
20 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native
21 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native T-Mobile
22 2:222/2 Kim Heino T-6in4 he.net
23 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh T-6in4 he.net
24 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net
25 1:266/404 Bill McGarrity Native Comcast
26 1:135/371 Eric Renfro T-6RD ATT


Tunnel type:

T-6in4 Static 6in4
T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
T-6to4 6to4
T-6RD 6RD

Remarks:

IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
but is configured to try IPv4 first)

Notes:

To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
node config). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
(2002::/16) Windows defaults to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


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Hello Nicholas,

On Sunday March 08 2015 19:53, you wrote to me:

11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l Native TWC
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo�l Native TWC

Please change both of these back to he.net 6in4 tunnels.

Done.

It seems as though my ISP is still in the testing phase of rolling out IPv6 in myarea. I, as well as others, started noticing intermittent v6 connections over the weekend, and then last night at some point they stopped completely..

Bummer...

oddly enough, I had decided to flash my router to
the latest firmware, and when successful, I had no native IPv6
anymore. I quickly setup a new tunnel and got everything running
smoothly again so hopefully not many would notice.

I hadn't noticed. ;-)

Anyhow, seems I was a bit premature to get all excited, and probably
won't go back to try it again until they either confirm via email
(like they said they would) or I see it in action firsthand and let
them work the kinks out of it.

At least they are working on it. My ISP (Ziggo) keeps saying that they will roll out IPv6 "later this year". They have been saying that for the last five years. :-(

If and when they finally do it, it may not make me happy either. Because...

Ziggo is in the process of merging with the other large cable company in The Netherlands: UPC. They have announced that they will use the same technical implementation througout the whole merged netwerk. They have already done that for their Digital TV standard. UPC is presently testing ds-lite. So the expectation is that if/when i finally get native IPv6 it will not be full dual stack, but ds-lite. So no more public IPv4 address....


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Michiel,

On 09 Mar 15 16:25, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Nicholas Boel:

At least they are working on it. My ISP (Ziggo) keeps saying that they will roll out IPv6 "later this year". They have been saying that for
the last five years. :-(

Yeah that sucks. Then again, sounds about like what's been going on with my ISP as well up till recently. I believe they (TWC) were one of the first to jump on the IPv6-day bandwagon even. Huge supporters of it, yet they're a big enough company they could stretch it out as long as they possibly could while making as much money as they could before rolling it out, probably.

If and when they finally do it, it may not make me happy either. Because...

Ziggo is in the process of merging with the other large cable company
in The Netherlands: UPC. They have announced that they will use the
same technical implementation througout the whole merged netwerk. They have already done that for their Digital TV standard. UPC is presently testing ds-lite. So the expectation is that if/when i finally get
native IPv6 it will not be full dual stack, but ds-lite. So no more
public IPv4 address....

Sounds like here as well. TWC was bought out be Comcast last year. They said something in the lines of by the end of the year my bill would be coming from them, etc.. and hasn't happened yet. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On 03/08/15, Nicholas Boel pondered and said...

latest firmware, and when successful, I had no native IPv6 anymore. I quickly setup a new tunnel and got everything running smoothly again so hopefully not many would notice.

Bummer x 2... yeah I had wondered why you were unreachable...

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Hello Nicholas!

Mar 09 17:26 2015, Nicholas Boel wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Sounds like here as well. TWC was bought out be Comcast last year.
They said something in the lines of by the end of the year my bill
would be coming from them, etc.. and hasn't happened yet. :)

My condolences to you ;)

Regards,
Markus

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Michiel van der Vlist -> All skrev 2015-03-09 10:50:
MvdV> Updated 9 March 2015

Will I get this file eventually? The one I have is dated March 5.

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Sunday March 22 2015 12:56, you wrote to me:

Michiel van der Vlist -> All skrev 2015-03-09 10:50:

MvdV>> Updated 9 March 2015

Will I get this file eventually? The one I have is dated March 5.

It is in your inbound.


Cheers, Michiel

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List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 21 April 2015


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary T-6in4 he.net
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net INO4
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in6 he.net
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
13 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs
14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?
17 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native? ?
18 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
19 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4
20 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native
21 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native T-Mobile
22 2:222/2 Kim Heino T-6in4 he.net
23 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh T-6in4 he.net
24 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net
25 1:266/404 Bill McGarrity Native Comcast
26 1:135/371 Eric Renfro T-6RD ATT
27 4:903/26 Fernando Toledo T-?? SixXs

Tunnel type:

T-6in4 Static 6in4
T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
T-6to4 6to4
T-6RD 6RD

Remarks:

IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
but is configured to try IPv4 first)

Notes:

To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
node config). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
(2002::/16) Windows defaults to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.



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List of Ipv6 nodes
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

Updated 22 April 2015


Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All
2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All
3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net PO4
4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG
5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist T-AYIY SixXs
6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast
7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net INO4
8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
9 2:5034/16 Alexey Ignatov T-6in4 he.net
10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in6 he.net
12 1:154/701 Nicholas Bo�l T-6in4 he.net
13 2:203/0 Bj�rn Felten T-6in4 SixXs
14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All INO4
15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet
16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native ?
17 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native? ?
18 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
19 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4
20 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native
21 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native T-Mobile
22 2:222/2 Kim Heino T-6in4 he.net
23 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh T-6in4 he.net
24 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net
25 1:266/404 Bill McGarrity Native Comcast
26 1:135/371 Eric Renfro T-6RD ATT
27 4:903/26 Fernando Toledo T-?? SixXs

Tunnel type:

T-6in4 Static 6in4
T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
T-6to4 6to4
T-6RD 6RD

Remarks:

IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
but is configured to try IPv4 first)

Notes:

To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
node config). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
(2002::/16) Windows defaults to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


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El 21/04/15 a las 19:30, Michiel van der Vlist -> All escibió:>
List of Ipv6 nodes

MvdV> 27 4:903/26 Fernando Toledo T-?? SixXs


Please, fix my node number is 4:902/26 and my tunnel type is ayiya!
Thanks!

Saludos!

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Hello Fernando,

On Thursday April 30 2015 04:05, you wrote to me:

List of Ipv6 nodes

MvdV>> 27 4:903/26 Fernando Toledo T-?? SixXs

Please, fix my node number is 4:902/26 and my tunnel type is ayiya! Thanks!

OK.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Fernando!

30 Apr 2015 04:05, Fernando Toledo wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Please, fix my node number is 4:902/26 and my tunnel type is ayiya!

who cares ? :=)

its in the nodelist anyway, if more then one listning is out it will always be the incorrect used, see dk-point.pvt vs z2pnt, all debate of i should change to foo to resolve my problem and create another fits here aswell, sadly so is life on a sunny day


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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