• Echo Rules

    From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Wed Feb 1 00:00:00 2012
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Thu Mar 1 01:00:00 2012
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From ED KOON@1:123/140 to TIM RICHARDSON on Thu Mar 8 16:24:20 2012
    On 12-04-11, ROSS CASSELL said to STEVE KEMP:

    Keep on whining I will pull HOLYSMOKE off the backbone in its
    entirety.

    DO IT!!!! And be damned! Who cares! Fido's pretty much dead anyway.
    You'll
    probable be the last person left in Fido, trying to get your little
    `eastern
    star' to shine.

    When you finally leave...don't forget to turn out the light!

    At least when there were heated debates the conference was thriving.

    Fidonet AKA Fightonet seemed a fit place for it. Just thinking out loud.


    ---
    Ed Koon
    www.docsplace.org
    www.docsplace.tzo.com
    Doc's Place Fidonet BBS
    We Offer The Full Fido Backbone
    Fast QWK Mail With Your Web Browse
    * Origin: Since 1991 And Were Still Here! DOCSPLACE.TZO.COM (1:123/140)
  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to ED KOON on Thu Mar 8 17:33:21 2012
    "ED KOON -> TIM RICHARDSON" <1:123/140> wrote in news:10854 $HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:

    DO IT!!!! And be damned! Who cares! Fido's pretty much dead anyway.
    You'll
    probable be the last person left in Fido, trying to get your little
    `eastern
    star' to shine.

    When you finally leave...don't forget to turn out the light!

    At least when there were heated debates the conference was thriving.

    Fidonet AKA Fightonet seemed a fit place for it. Just thinking out loud.

    Fortunately the "best" was saved, of some of the livelier arguments and debates.

    http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/quotes.htm

    --- Xnews/5.04.25
    * Origin: Fidonet Via Newsreader - http://www.easternstar.info (1:123/789.0)
  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to ED KOON on Fri Mar 9 05:32:00 2012
    On 03-08-12, ED KOON said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    On 12-04-11, ROSS CASSELL said to STEVE KEMP:

    Keep on whining I will pull HOLYSMOKE off the backbone in its
    entirety.

    DO IT!!!! And be damned! Who cares! Fido's pretty much dead anyway.
    You'll
    probable be the last person left in Fido, trying to get your little
    `eastern
    star' to shine.

    When you finally leave...don't forget to turn out the light!


    At least when there were heated debates the conference was thriving.


    Fidonet AKA Fightonet seemed a fit place for it. Just thinking out loud.


    Each and every conference Cassell has taken over as `moderator' in has died.

    The only reason Fidonet hasn't yet is because of the foreign traffic there.


    All I did was tell one butt-wipe from some foreign country in there to go piss his pants, and another foreigner to go piss up a rope!


    Cassell got his `moderator's whip' out and has me put on `read only' status.

    He then proceeds to get into it with at least one of those I told to go piss their pants, and Cassell says much worse to them than I ever did in all the time I've been taking that echo in my packets! Of course he didn't immediately put HIMSELF on read-only status over it. But.....the privileges of `moderator -hood' I guess.


    Even with Chirnside gone, the argument has continued. Its just not about `Chirnside' or his status, but has migrated to other issues. Its still the
    same argument that has been on-going in there for many years.


    ---
    *Durango b301 #PE*
    * Origin: Since 1991 And Were Still Here! DOCSPLACE.TZO.COM (1:123/140)
  • From ED KOON@1:123/140 to TIM RICHARDSON on Fri Mar 9 10:14:06 2012
    At least when there were heated debates the conference was thriving.


    Fidonet AKA Fightonet seemed a fit place for it. Just thinking out
    loud.


    Each and every conference Cassell has taken over as `moderator' in has
    died.

    The only reason Fidonet hasn't yet is because of the foreign traffic
    Even with Chirnside gone, the argument has continued. Its just not about `Chirnside' or his status, but has migrated to other issues. Its still
    the
    same argument that has been on-going in there for many years.

    I am trying to do some Fidonet promotion with my blog, hopefully it will
    gain a few new bbs members.

    Speaking of Wayne, I see CYNTHIA ADKISSON has surfaced in LA: http://tinyurl.com/7hozhkr

    ---
    Ed Koon
    www.docsplace.org
    www.docsplace.tzo.com
    Doc's Place Fidonet BBS
    We Offer The Full Fido Backbone
    Fast QWK Mail With Your Web Browse
    * Origin: Since 1991 And Were Still Here! DOCSPLACE.TZO.COM (1:123/140)
  • From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to TIM RICHARDSON on Fri Mar 9 10:06:58 2012
    Hello TIM!

    09 Mar 12 05:32, you wrote to ED KOON:

    Each and every conference Cassell has taken over as `moderator' in has died.

    Quit your fucking crying you crybaby, there exist only 2 people in todays Fidonet that g(i)ave two shitz about this echo, Steve Kemp and Ross Sauer.

    Anyone else has long since gone, all else are your fellow choir members..

    All I did was try to tilt the echo so that the believers had a equal footing in
    the echo with the atheists, you do know that this echo was a shooting gallery with the believers as the targets, who never could get a word in edgewise?

    Oh and the only other part of the equation that is missing since the time you said I killed this echo is Dan Ceppa, he left Fidonet for other reasons.

    Go ahead and blame me for that, you seem to require scapegoats for everything, your miserable life depends on it..

    Now go shake your tiny fists at your monitor and cuss me some more..

    ==
    Ross
    Fidonet Feeds Or Fidonet In Your Newsreader: http://www.easternstar.info
    Canned Laughter was not used in the production of this message!

    B. Felten: "Of course not! Of course I'm retarded. Are you surprised?"
    (Mar 02, 2012 in FIDONEWS)


    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20060121
    * Origin: The Eastern Star - Spartanburg, SC USA (1:123/456)
  • From ED KOON@1:123/140 to ROSS CASSELL on Fri Mar 9 19:12:54 2012
    Hello TIM!

    09 Mar 12 05:32, you wrote to ED KOON:

    Each and every conference Cassell has taken over as `moderator' in
    has
    died.

    Quit your fucking crying you crybaby, there exist only 2 people in
    todays
    Fidonet that g(i)ave two shitz about this echo, Steve Kemp and Ross
    Sauer.

    Hey.. Watch your language in the presence of our lord! :)

    ---
    Ed Koon
    www.docsplace.org
    www.docsplace.tzo.com
    Doc's Place Fidonet BBS
    We Offer The Full Fido Backbone
    Fast QWK Mail With Your Web Browse
    * Origin: Since 1991 And Were Still Here! DOCSPLACE.TZO.COM (1:123/140)
  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to ROSS CASSELL on Sun Mar 11 09:23:00 2012
    On 03-09-12, ROSS CASSELL said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    Hello TIM!

    09 Mar 12 05:32, you wrote to ED KOON:

    Each and every conference Cassell has taken over as `moderator' in has died.

    Quit you


    Go piss yer pants!


    ---
    *Durango b301 #PE*
    * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 And Still Here. Join Us: www.DocsPl (1:123/140)
  • From ED KOON@1:123/140 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sun Mar 11 19:18:00 2012
    On 03-09-12, ROSS CASSELL said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    Hello TIM!

    09 Mar 12 05:32, you wrote to ED KOON:

    Each and every conference Cassell has taken over as `moderator' in
    has
    died.

    Quit you


    Go piss yer pants!

    Looks like the whole backbone has pretty much died. I have only imported 207 messages for the backbone.na since yesterday. Didn't realize it until i updated
    our backbone areas yesterday.

    Has everyone went to Facebook.

    ---
    Ed Koon
    www.docsplace.org
    www.docsplace.tzo.com
    Doc's Place Fidonet BBS
    We Offer The Full Fido Backbone
    Fast QWK Mail With Your Web Browse
    * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 And Still Here. Join Us: www.DocsPl (1:123/140)
  • From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to ED KOON on Sun Mar 11 22:28:38 2012
    Hello ED!

    11 Mar 12 19:18, you wrote to TIM RICHARDSON:

    Looks like the whole backbone has pretty much died. I have only
    imported 207 messages for the backbone.na since yesterday. Didn't
    realize it until i updated our backbone areas yesterday.

    Has everyone went to Facebook.

    Now you know why the backbone file got a haircut..

    It will take a while for your message bases to repopulate, which is why I was surprised you used the method you did..

    ==
    Ross
    Fidonet Feeds Or Fidonet In Your Newsreader: http://www.easternstar.info
    Canned Laughter was not used in the production of this message!

    B. Felten: "Of course not! Of course I'm retarded. Are you surprised?"
    (Mar 02, 2012 in FIDONEWS)


    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20060121
    * Origin: The Eastern Star - Spartanburg, SC USA (1:123/456)
  • From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sun Mar 11 22:30:51 2012
    Hello TIM!

    11 Mar 12 09:23, you wrote to me:

    Each and every conference Cassell has taken over as `moderator' in
    has died.

    Quit you

    Go piss yer pants!

    Hey little boy, why dont you go piss up a rope, its advice you like to give, lets see how well you take it.

    Now go shake your little fist at your monitor and cuss me again.

    ==
    Ross
    Fidonet Feeds Or Fidonet In Your Newsreader: http://www.easternstar.info
    Canned Laughter was not used in the production of this message!

    B. Felten: "Of course not! Of course I'm retarded. Are you surprised?"
    (Mar 02, 2012 in FIDONEWS)


    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20060121
    * Origin: The Eastern Star - Spartanburg, SC USA (1:123/456)
  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Ross Cassell on Mon Mar 12 01:11:34 2012
    "Ross Cassell -> TIM RICHARDSON" <1:123/456> wrote in news:10865 $HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:

    Hello TIM!

    11 Mar 12 09:23, you wrote to me:

    Each and every conference Cassell has taken over as `moderator' in
    has died.

    Quit you

    Go piss yer pants!

    Hey little boy, why dont you go piss up a rope, its advice you like to give, lets see how well you take it.

    Now go shake your little fist at your monitor and cuss me again.

    Keep it up both of you, this is the funniest "debate" I've ever seen in
    here in years.

    --- Xnews/5.04.25
    * Origin: Fidonet Via Newsreader - http://www.easternstar.info (1:123/789.0)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Sun Apr 1 01:00:00 2012
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Tue May 1 01:00:00 2012
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Sun Jul 1 00:00:02 2012
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Wed Aug 1 00:00:00 2012
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Sat Sep 1 00:00:00 2012
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Mon Oct 1 00:00:00 2012
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Thu Nov 1 00:00:00 2012
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Sat Dec 1 00:00:04 2012
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Tue Jan 1 00:00:02 2013
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Fri Feb 1 00:00:06 2013
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Wed May 1 00:00:06 2013
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Sat Jun 1 00:00:04 2013
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Mon Jul 1 00:00:02 2013
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Thu Aug 1 00:00:02 2013
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Sun Sep 1 00:00:02 2013
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Tue Oct 1 00:00:02 2013
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Fri Nov 1 00:00:06 2013
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Sun Dec 1 00:00:02 2013
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Sat Feb 1 00:00:08 2014
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Sat Mar 1 00:00:02 2014
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

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    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Moderator@1:123/500 to All on Tue Apr 1 00:00:04 2014
    Ruleset For The HOLYSMOKE Echo
    ==============================

    Last Modified: 05/08/2009

    Moderator: Ross Cassell @ 1:123/500

    --Purpose Of Echo

    For the free discussion both for and against the validity of any
    religious belief.

    --Swear Words

    The usage of swear words are not prohibited for purposes of exclaimation, however the usage of swear words:

    * To insult, flame or inflame if directed towards a member of this echo

    * As the sole or only content of your message or reply.

    * For only the sake of using them.

    Are prohibited, if in doubt dont do it, else when you cross this line, you
    will be cautioned.

    --Name Calling/Personal Attacks

    Messages that are designed to deliberately insult without conveying
    any relevant information are included as forbidden.

    Additionally echo participants are not to be made the subject matter of
    any message:

    Footer
    Tagline
    Sigline

    --The "I Hate You" Rule

    Disputes and personality conflicts that originated in other echoes or
    which have been long standing, regardless of origination point, are not welcome here. Do not use or enter this echo for the sole purpose of
    carrying out existing grudges.

    --The "Persona Non Grata" Rule

    Individuals banned or suspended from this echo are not to be included in debate within this echo, for purposes of this echo, if a person does get banned or suspended, they do not exist for as long as any ban or suspension is in force. If a banned or suspended person comes into the echo, do not respond to that person if their ban or suspension is still in effect. Violation of this rule can result in being sustended or banned.

    Explaination:

    If a person is prohibited from posting in the echo, be that prohibition short term, long term or permanent, then there should be nothing coming from this echo to compel that person to want to or have to defend themselves.

    --The "Non Echo Member" Rule

    Do not use this echo to convey information about a person whom
    is not actively using the echo, if such information is less than
    factual or is inflammatory.

    --The "I Twit Thee" Rule

    The usage of twit filters, assuming your message reader supports it, is encouraged in the event you encounter a individual whom otherwise causes you great irritation.

    However if you do decide on this course of action and you publically announce that you are twitting someone, you better be sure you live by that proclaimation, which includes up to you treating the irritant as if s/he doesnt exist.

    If you announce that you have twit filtered someone and in turn take pot shots at them in messages to others, either out of the blue or by seeing that persons messages quoted by others, you are as guilty of being annoying as the person you twitted, and may face risk of being suspended from the echo if not worse.

    --The "Liar" Rule

    If you are asking for someones opinion on something and they give it, do not proclaim it to be a lie, an opinion is what it is. If you can have an opinion on something, so can others, see how that works?

    Someone disagreeing with your viewpoint does not a liar make, if you proclaim someone to be a liar, be prepared to prove it as such or hold thy tongue by not proclaiming someone to be a liar.

    --The Posting A Lie Rule

    Do not post anything about another participant which is a deliberate misrepresentation of what they said or whom they are. If you post
    anything of this nature, it best be worded as an opinion unless proven
    or admitted to, if it cannot pass the test of proof, then do not
    present these things as factual.

    DO NOT POST LIES ABOUT ANYONE!

    Having said the above, the moderator is not your holy protector and is
    not responsible for for deciding what was a lie and what is the truth,
    do not expect arbitration on anything you feel said about you which
    might have been a lie.

    --Real Names

    This is a real names only echo, no handles, aliases without moderator approval.

    --The To All Rule

    Do not post messages addressed to all, unless it is to introduce
    subject matter you wish to have debated.

    Do not post any message to All, which is in fact a reply to a message
    written in the echo by another participant. Doing so by inference makes
    the person whom wrote the message as topic for debate, echo
    participants are not topics for debate.

    --Quoting and Quotations

    Do not over-quote your message replies, quote back that which is needed
    to specify those points in which your reply is addressing.

    Do not alter message quotes to change the meaning of the original
    posters points, this is not to say you are required to quote back every
    single thing the person said if you are not addressing every single
    thing they said, just dont make your quote back look as if the person
    said something they did not.

    No one is required to address every single point you made in any
    message.

    Continually harassing a echo participant with a message quote of what
    they may have said in a earlier point in time regardless of context, will
    be regarded as harassing a participant if done to excess. If the person refuses to acknowledge, concede or retract, dont think baraging them
    with said quote multiple times is going to change the status quo.

    --Moderation.

    Leave the moderating to the moderator.

    The moderator of this echo reserves the right to add, subtract or otherwise amend these rules as necessary up to and including taking action against an individual for something not currently spelled out within the current rule set.

    -The Moderator-
    ---
    * Origin: The Moderator (1:123/500)
  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Ed Koon on Mon May 23 03:27:00 2016
    Ed Koon wrote to Ross Cassell <=-

    Hey.. Watch your language in the presence of our lord! :)

    Oh Lort Geezus you mean this kwap is going on here too?

    Allen

    ... Dew knot trussed your spiel chequer to find awl miss stakes.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    * Origin: Derby City LiveWire - Louisville, KY - livewirebbs.dy (1:2320/100)