• synchronet (sbbs)

    From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Micheal Pierce on Mon May 18 08:58:16 2020
    Hello Micheal!

    17 May 20, Micheal Pierce wrote to Angel Ripoll:

    did you READ the subject?? this is *ONLY* a problem with *synchronet*
    JAM areas work great, in my various setups,

    Sorry, you did not notice JAM areas before.

    I read "problem with synchronet JAM areas" but "work great" doesn't match to problems?

    I have HPT, & also mystic.. the only setup I have problems with is *synchronet*

    JAM is a per area messagebase files. If synchronet can do squish then you could try to change one area from JAM to squish and see what happens. If golded can read squish based areas without problem then i would suspect the problem in synchronets JAM handling.

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Angel Ripoll@2:341/66 to Micheal Pierce on Mon May 18 10:44:02 2020
    Hola Micheal!

    Domingo 17 Mayo 2020 15:42, Micheal Pierce escribi¢ a Angel Ripoll:


    did you READ the subject?? this is *ONLY* a problem with *synchronet* JAM areas work great, in my various setups, I have HPT, & also mystic.. the only setup I have problems with is *synchronet*

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    Yes, I can read it

    Un saludo,
    Angel Ripoll
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Kai Richter on Mon May 18 16:45:51 2020
    Re: synchronet (sbbs)
    By: Kai Richter to Micheal Pierce on Mon May 18 2020 08:58:16


    did you READ the subject?? this is *ONLY* a problem with *synchronet*
    JAM areas work great, in my various setups,

    Sorry, you did not notice JAM areas before.

    synchronet use its own message base format known as SMB (synchronet messge base format) ;)

    JAM is good but there are things it could do better... same with pretty much every message base format i've ever seen used anywhere...


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  • From Micheal Pierce@1:340/201 to Angel Ripoll on Mon May 18 12:49:38 2020
    Hola Micheal!

    Domingo 17 Mayo 2020 15:42, Micheal Pierce escribi¢ a Angel Ripoll:


    did you READ the subject?? this is *ONLY* a problem with
    *synchronet* JAM areas work great, in my various setups, I have
    HPT, & also mystic.. the only setup I have problems with is
    *synchronet*

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    19 # │28623 Eric Oulashin Humor 20
    Aug 19 # │28624 Daniel Humor
    13 Feb 20 # │28625 Al Kaiser Star Trek Discovery
    31 Mar 20 # │28626 Al Kaiser Star Trek Discovery
    31 Mar 20 # │28627 Gary Ailes Re: Star Trek Discovery
    31 Mar 20 # │28628 Richard Miles Re: Star Trek Discovery
    01 Apr 20 # │28629 Daniel Re: Star Trek Discovery
    20 Apr 20 # │28630 Dumas Walker Re: Star Trek Discovery
    20 Apr 20 # │28631 Richard Miles Star Trek Discovery
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    yes, I updated to the most recent version, and now it works for echomail areas Thanks,
    Micheal

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  • From Micheal Pierce@1:340/201 to All on Sat May 16 10:50:10 2020
    is there a patch or update for golded to be able to reliably read synchronet's message base??

    I have gotten golded to read sbbs message base but, the message base has allot of holes. lots of missing headers

    also, anyone know of a way to read mystic's areas and genterate an areas file that golded can read??

    Micheal

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Micheal Pierce on Sat May 16 12:46:32 2020
    is there a patch or update for golded to be able to reliably read synchronet's
    message base??

    I have gotten golded to read sbbs message base but, the message base has allot
    of holes. lots of missing headers

    That's the result I got several years ago when I did this.

    Your best be with Synchronet is to use the -W command line option to write a goldarea.inc file to include in your config. Once you do that you'll need to go over that file and correct any errors and include that file in your golded.cfg and remove the "AREAFILE SBBS /sbbs/" line, or comment it out.

    I don't know what the issue is with the SBBS support in golded but it seems to be incorrect or incomplete. If all your areas have the same internal code prefix I think you'll have better luck, but I doubt they are.

    also, anyone know of a way to read mystic's areas and genterate an areas file that golded can read??

    It's the same situation with Mystic. You need a goldarea.inc to include or just add AREADEF lines to your golded.cfg. There is no other way I know of.

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  • From Angel Ripoll@2:341/66 to Micheal Pierce on Sat May 16 23:57:48 2020
    Hola Micheal!

    Sábado 16 Mayo 2020 10:50, Micheal Pierce escribi¢ a All:


    is there a patch or update for golded to be able to reliably read synchronet's message base??

    Yes.

    Areafile Synchronet /sbbs/

    Un saludo,
    Angel Ripoll
    aripoll(at)zruspas.org

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  • From Micheal Pierce@1:340/201 to Angel Ripoll on Sat May 16 19:43:37 2020
    is there a patch or update for golded to be able to reliably read
    synchronet's message base??

    Yes.

    Areafile Synchronet /sbbs/

    Un saludo,
    Angel Ripoll
    aripoll(at)zruspas.org

    that part of *seeing* the message base works, what does not work is *reading* the *headers*, (ie press enter on an area, then press l, you'll see some headers, then blank spaces, then more headers) that's why I was asking

    Micheal

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Micheal Pierce on Sun May 17 07:29:16 2020
    Hello Micheal,

    On Sat May 16 2020 19:43:36, Micheal Pierce wrote to Angel Ripoll:

    that part of *seeing* the message base works, what does not work is *reading* the *headers*, (ie press enter on an area, then press l,
    you'll see some headers, then blank spaces, then more headers) that's
    why I was asking

    "l" for me lists messages. Is that what you're referring to? If so, maybe threading is broken between the two?

    DigitalMan/Rob Swindell has submitted patches for Golded in the past in order to help it work better with Synchronet. However, I'm unsure if those patches were ever actually added to the official sources. If not, Rob may still have them so you can patch Golded yourself, but I can't guarantee it will fix your current issue(s). ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Micheal Pierce@1:340/201 to Nicholas Boel on Sun May 17 07:06:14 2020
    Hello Micheal,

    On Sat May 16 2020 19:43:36, Micheal Pierce wrote to Angel Ripoll:

    that part of *seeing* the message base works, what does not work
    is *reading* the *headers*, (ie press enter on an area, then
    press l, you'll see some headers, then blank spaces, then more
    headers) that's why I was asking

    "l" for me lists messages. Is that what you're referring to? If so,
    maybe threading is broken between the two?

    DigitalMan/Rob Swindell has submitted patches for Golded in the past
    in order to help it work better with Synchronet. However, I'm unsure
    if those patches were ever actually added to the official sources. If
    not, Rob may still have them so you can patch Golded yourself, but I
    can't guarantee it will fix your current issue(s). ;)

    yes l for listing messages, its not only in there but going from 1 message to another, if the header is damaged, and tap the right arrow to goto next message, your stuck.. will ask Rob Swindell about it

    Micheal

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Nicholas Boel on Sun May 17 14:42:42 2020
    Re: synchronet (sbbs)
    By: Nicholas Boel to Micheal Pierce on Sun May 17 2020 07:29 am

    Hello Micheal,

    On Sat May 16 2020 19:43:36, Micheal Pierce wrote to Angel Ripoll:

    that part of *seeing* the message base works, what does not work is *reading* the *headers*, (ie press enter on an area, then press l, you'll see some headers, then blank spaces, then more headers) that's why I was asking

    "l" for me lists messages. Is that what you're referring to? If so, maybe threading is broken between the two?

    DigitalMan/Rob Swindell has submitted patches for Golded in the past in order to help it work better with Synchronet. However, I'm unsure if those patches were ever actually added to the official sources. If not, Rob may still have them so you can patch Golded yourself, but I can't guarantee it will fix your current issue(s). ;)

    The patches I made were uploaded here: https://sourceforge.net/p/golded-plus/patches/

    And it appears they've been applied to the latest GoldEd+ sources.

    digital man

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  • From Angel Ripoll@2:341/66 to Micheal Pierce on Sun May 17 23:25:42 2020
    Hola Micheal!

    Sábado 16 Mayo 2020 19:43, Micheal Pierce escribi¢ a Angel Ripoll:

    that part of *seeing* the message base works, what does not work is *reading* the *headers*, (ie press enter on an area, then press l, you'll see some headers, then blank spaces, then more headers) that's why I was asking

    For me "l" works fine

    Un saludo,
    Angel Ripoll
    aripoll(at)zruspas.org

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Rob Swindell on Sun May 17 16:52:40 2020
    Hello Rob,

    On Sun May 17 2020 14:42:42, Rob Swindell wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    DigitalMan/Rob Swindell has submitted patches for Golded in the
    past in order to help it work better with Synchronet. However, I'm
    unsure if those patches were ever actually added to the official
    sources. If not, Rob may still have them so you can patch Golded
    yourself, but I can't guarantee it will fix your current issue(s).
    ;)

    The patches I made were uploaded here: https://sourceforge.net/p/golded-plus/patches/

    And it appears they've been applied to the latest GoldEd+ sources.

    Thanks for the heads up and verification! ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Micheal Pierce on Mon May 18 00:48:44 2020
    Hello Micheal!

    16 May 20, Micheal Pierce wrote to All:

    also, anyone know of a way to read mystic's areas and genterate an
    areas file that golded can read??

    If mystic can export PKT files then yes, there is a way.

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Micheal Pierce@1:340/201 to Angel Ripoll on Sun May 17 15:42:53 2020
    Hola Micheal!

    Sábado 16 Mayo 2020 19:43, Micheal Pierce escribi¢ a Angel Ripoll:

    that part of *seeing* the message base works, what does not work
    is *reading* the *headers*, (ie press enter on an area, then
    press l, you'll see some headers, then blank spaces, then more
    headers) that's why I was asking

    For me "l" works fine

    did you READ the subject?? this is *ONLY* a problem with *synchronet* JAM areas work great, in my various setups, I have HPT, & also mystic.. the only setup I have problems with is *synchronet*


    Micheal

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  • From Micheal Pierce@1:340/201 to Rob Swindell on Sun May 17 16:27:18 2020
    Hello Rob!


    The patches I made were uploaded here: https://sourceforge.net/p/golded-plus/patches/

    And it appears they've been applied to the latest GoldEd+ sources.

    digital man

    I just updated, it did fix the echomail areas, though my dovenet areas still have the issue... is there a way to compact/re-number dovenet areas??
    I suspect its something to do with the fact that get several VERT.qwk.5ec1aed5.bad packets in my /sbbs/data folder
    sbbs itself does not show an issue, neither does mystic - I get dovenet via sbbs & mystic gets it from sbbs

    Micheal

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Micheal Pierce on Sun May 17 19:15:00 2020
    Re: synchronet (sbbs)
    By: Micheal Pierce to Rob Swindell on Sun May 17 2020 04:27 pm


    Hello Rob!


    The patches I made were uploaded here: https://sourceforge.net/p/golded-plus/patches/

    And it appears they've been applied to the latest GoldEd+ sources.

    digital man

    I just updated, it did fix the echomail areas, though my dovenet areas still have the issue... is there a way to compact/re-number dovenet areas??

    Re-numbering is generally a bad idea. But yes, you can re-number of with the 'fixsmb' utility. And you can pack the base with 'smbutil'.

    I suspect its something to do with the fact that get several VERT.qwk.5ec1aed5.bad packets in my /sbbs/data folder

    Seems unlikely to be connected.

    sbbs itself does not show an issue, neither does mystic - I get dovenet via sbbs & mystic gets it from sbbs

    Okay, good luck!

    digital man

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