• Re: sbbsecho.cfg

    From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to IB Joe on Wed Jan 7 12:45:00 2015
    On 01-07-15 09:13, IB Joe wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: sbbsecho.cfg
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Jan 07 2015 09:44 am

    ROUTE-TO 1:261/38 1:ALL 3:ALL 4:ALL
    ROUTE-TO 2:203/0 2: ALL

    I don't know if it's a typeo, the all after the 2: has a space...

    It was a typo....

    And Bill... I don't know if this will help... BUT... I have been at
    this soooooo long I forgot where I picked it up...

    I always put the exceptions first followed by regular... If that was my route file...

    ROUTE-TO 2:203/0 2:ALL
    ROUTE-TO 1:261/38 Bla Bla Bla...

    Listen, I have done this for years... might have started it using crap software... more than like that was/is the case and more than likely
    has nothing to do with anying...

    I'll try that... :)


    I also trurn clockwise 3 times before I sit down when I write/rewrite
    my route file and that seems to work for me as well.

    We all have our superstitions... can't hurt... :)

    Thanks


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Accession on Thu Jan 8 02:15:00 2015
    On 01-07-15 16:39, Accession wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya Nick...

    On 07 Jan 15 09:44, Bill McGarrity wrote to All:

    Hiya gang,,,

    As many know from my last few posts, I switched to binkd as my mailer
    and had to change sbbsecho to a FLO style tosser. In the config I
    have:

    ROUTE-TO 1:261/38 1:ALL 3:ALL 4:ALL
    ROUTE-TO 2:203/0 2: ALL

    Today I noticed a netmail destined for a z2 address being routed
    through
    1:261/38 rather than 2:203/0.

    Have I done something wrong?

    Double check your config. Those lines should be ROUTE_TO with an underscore, rather than a hyphen. Also, I'm not sure if it was just a message typo or not, but there shouldn't be a space between 2: and ALL.
    It should be 2:ALL.

    Both were typos.... the space and the dash. Too little sleep.

    The way it's written is: ROUTE_TO 2:ALL

    Thanks...


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to mark lewis on Thu Jan 8 11:17:00 2015
    On 01-08-15 06:07, mark lewis wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    @MSGID: <54AEA554.1897.2syncsyso@tequilamockingbirdonline.net>
    @REPLY: <54AE11D5.1893.2syncsyso@tequilamockingbirdonline.net>
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2015, Bill McGarrity wrote to mark lewis:

    BTW, did you get my netmail?

    i dunno... which system did you address it to? :lol:

    seriously, though... there are at least six that i may write from... if you try to write a netmail reply to one of my posts, it'll likely be addressed to the system i wrote from... there's three nodes here and
    two points plus another couple that i've started visiting and
    recently...

    Netmail to follow at this address... :)


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Accession on Fri Jan 9 02:07:00 2015
    On 01-08-15 14:19, Accession wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya Nick...


    On 08 Jan 15 02:15, Bill McGarrity wrote to Accession:

    Both were typos.... the space and the dash. Too little sleep.

    The way it's written is: ROUTE_TO 2:ALL

    Okay, then my next questions are:

    Was it destined from your system? Or from another system passing
    through your system?
    If it was from another system, what BBS software was it running?

    From my system.


    In this case especially, I can't believe that those two "catch-all" ROUTE_TO statements would matter if they were reversed or not.
    Basically, one is saying route everything for zones 1, 3, and 4 through Janis, while the other one is saying to route all of zone 2 through
    Bjorn.

    The only time I can see needing things in a certain order, is if you're setting

    up a direct link with someone in zone 1, in some software you would
    have to specify that direct link BEFORE your catch-all, ie:

    DIRECT 1:154/10
    ROUTtE_TO 1:123/500 1:ALL

    Or similarly, some kind of more specific routing before a catch-all,
    ie:

    ROUTE_TO 1:154/ALL 1:154/10
    ROUTE_TO 1:123/500 1:ALL

    I can't see two catch-all statements making any difference above or
    below each other. And even if it were true in some cases, I don't think
    it matters any in Synchronet's sbbsecho.cfg. If you ever noticed when
    you use echocfg to do your routing, it puts things in oddball random places compared to the way these older softwares worked (and people are describing right now). This is the main reason why I have and always
    will edit sbbsecho.cfg manually. I think the config file is easier to
    read if you to it in a more heirarchial format. And I can be an anal retentive muhfugga sometimes, too. :)

    I'll be looking at it more this weekend. As soon as I figure out how binkd uses the nodelist I'll just crash direct,

    :)


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Nicholas Boel on Fri Jan 9 09:26:00 2015
    On 01-09-15 01:47, Nicholas Boel wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya Nick...

    On 09 Jan 15 02:07, Bill McGarrity wrote to Accession:

    I'll be looking at it more this weekend. As soon as I figure out how binkd uses the nodelist I'll just crash direct,

    Binkd doesn't use the raw nodelist, but someone compiles a
    binkd-readable nodelist (I-BINKD file echo?). You can basically just
    add a line your binkd.conf:

    include /path/to/i-binkd/BINKD.TXT

    Then subscribe to that file echo, and make the path match. As soon as
    the next one arrives in that directory, binkd should automatically
    restart due to a config file change (if using the "-C" option).

    OK... I am assuming that only handles Fidonet. What about the two other ftn networks I belong to. There must me a way to compile all three raw nodelists into something that binkd can read...


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Nicholas Boel on Fri Jan 9 11:18:00 2015
    On 01-09-15 09:20, Nicholas Boel wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya Nick...

    On 09 Jan 15 09:26, Bill McGarrity wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    I'll be looking at it more this weekend. As soon as I figure out
    how binkd uses the nodelist I'll just crash direct,

    Binkd doesn't use the raw nodelist, but someone compiles a
    binkd-readable nodelist (I-BINKD file echo?). You can basically
    just add a line your binkd.conf:

    include /path/to/i-binkd/BINKD.TXT

    Then subscribe to that file echo, and make the path match. As
    soon as the next one arrives in that directory, binkd should
    automatically restart due to a config file change (if using the
    "-C" option).

    OK... I am assuming that only handles Fidonet. What about the two
    other ftn networks I belong to. There must me a way to compile all
    three raw nodelists into something that binkd can read...

    That's probably where the nodelist.pl and perl hooks stuff you were recently looking at would come in. I only use BINKD.TXT, which is
    Fidonet only. That seems to be the only network that people want to
    make unsecure connections to. This only makes those connections secure passwordless connections instead.

    As long as you define your links you get your feeds from in those other FTN networks in or included in your binkd.cfg, you shouldn't need any
    more than that, unless of course you want to compile something like BINKD.TXT yourself.

    Sounds good. I've made the changes and all seems good for now. I'll work on the other networks when I get to know perl better and see what the hell the -var mean.

    Thanks so much for all your help with this...


    Bill

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Fri Jan 9 14:38:00 2015
    On 01-09-15 13:54, Joe Delahaye wrote to Nicholas Boel <=-

    Re: Re: sbbsecho.cfg
    By: Nicholas Boel to Bill McGarrity on Fri Jan 09 2015 01:47:56

    Binkd doesn't use the raw nodelist, but someone compiles a binkd-readable nodelist (I-BINKD file echo?). You can basically just add a line your binkd.conf:

    include /path/to/i-binkd/BINKD.TXT

    Actually the version of Binkd I am running is supposed to be able to
    use the nodlist. It uses perl hooks. I dont know if anyone has got it actually running yet though..



    Then subscribe to that file echo, and make the path match. As soon as the next one arrives in that directory, binkd should automatically restart due to a config file change (if using the "-C" option).

    It stops my mailer dead every time. I used to do it automatically via event, and I use the -C option, along with Mark's batch file. I dont
    know why it thinks the config has changed, as it has not. Only the
    file that it points to has changed.

    It originally did the same to mine when I added the line Nick posted above... BUT, I didn't have the <root-domain> as the last variable on my first domain line... id:

    domain fidonet c:\fd\outbound 1 binkd.net

    I didn't have the binkd.net at the end of it. I checked the logs and that gave me the answer. Now it uses it properly as I can now direct/crash to any node listed. As soon as I get whispnet and micronet compiled, I can remove all the ROUTE_TO's in the sbbsecho.cfg file....


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Fri Jan 9 17:58:00 2015
    On 01-09-15 16:41, Joe Delahaye wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: sbbsecho.cfg
    By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Fri Jan 09 2015 14:38:00

    include /path/to/i-binkd/BINKD.TXT

    It originally did the same to mine when I added the line Nick posted above... BUT, I didn't have the <root-domain> as the last variable on my first domain line... id:

    domain fidonet c:\fd\outbound 1 binkd.net


    Why would that addition be necessary? Does not make sense to me.

    Beats the hell out of me.. lol.... but when I added it it worked as per the error message...


    Here is mine.

    domain fidonet c:\\im\\packet 1

    I used the \\ because that is what was in the sample config.

    Mine is teh same way.. double \\


    I didn't have the binkd.net at the end of it. I checked the logs and that gave me the answer. Now it uses it properly as I can now direct/crash to any node listed. As soon as I get whispnet and micronet compiled, I can remove all the ROUTE_TO's in the sbbsecho.cfg file....

    We are getting off-topic here, but what exactly did the log file tell
    you that made you change it?? I'm curious

    It had...

    you should define your address right after domains.

    I guess I could have put my IP address but I read somewhere when I first started this to use the binkd.net domain.


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Nicholas Boel on Fri Jan 9 18:20:00 2015
    On 01-09-15 16:04, Nicholas Boel wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya Nick...

    On 09 Jan 15 14:38, Bill McGarrity wrote to Joe Delahaye:

    domain fidonet c:\fd\outbound 1 binkd.net

    I didn't have the binkd.net at the end of it. I checked the logs and
    that gave me the answer. Now it uses it properly as I can now
    direct/crash to any node listed. As soon as I get whispnet and
    micronet compiled, I can remove all the ROUTE_TO's in the sbbsecho.cfg file....

    Wait, what? I don't think you can remove your sbbsecho.cfg
    configuration because you compile a nodelist for your mailer. All that does is make your connections for you. sbbsecho still needs to know
    where to direct netmail to, otherwise it will create wrong filenames
    and binkd won't send it anywhere.

    I'm pretty sure the route_to is for netmail, not echomail. I've already told sbbsecho my uplink for echomail and when tossed it creates a PKT and a .CLO. If indeed I am right, then any nodelisted address I put in the netmail, a .MSG will be created, then fidoout will look at the To: address and create a .CUT using the hex address for the actual node it's going to. Binkd reads that cut and dials that node directly. Why route it if you can do it direct. Now with whispernet and micronet, being I haven't compiled a nodelist binkd can understand, I have to route through my hubs.

    That's the way I see it. Again, I maybe wrong but so far every netmail I have sent has gone direct and all my echomail is going to Janis and Björn properly.

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Jan 12 15:16:00 2015
    On 01-12-15 09:01, Joe Delahaye wrote to mark lewis <=-

    Re: sbbsecho.cfg
    By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Sun Jan 11 2015 20:56:19

    #
    # Default node flags. Binkd will call an unlisted node if "defnode"
    defined. #
    defnode -nr *
    root-domain binkp.net

    if you are in more than one FTN network, that makes all of them look up addresses in binkp.net... each FTN should have its own DNS lookup for f.n.z style lookups... binkp.net is for fidonet addresses... i doubt that they have any other zones outside of fidonet zones listed...


    Is that because of the defnode -nr * statement? If I remove the * will that work?

    Joe,

    Mark turned me on to the perl conversion program that will take a raw nodelist and turn it into a binkd.txt style. Works great.. so now all I have to do is use the include statement in the cfg once I convert. I'm working on a batch file to see if a new nodelist comes in, see what it's named, unzip, convert and viola!!


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Jan 12 18:32:00 2015
    On 01-12-15 18:27, Joe Delahaye wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: sbbsecho.cfg
    By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Mon Jan 12 2015 15:16:00

    Mark turned me on to the perl conversion program that will take a raw nodelist and turn it into a binkd.txt style. Works great.. so now all I have to do is use the include statement in the cfg once I convert. I'm working on a batch file to see if a new nodelist comes in, see what it's named, unzip, convert and viola!!


    I do most of that already. What I have not yet tried is the perl
    scripts. Do you need the raw nodelist, or the compiled nodelist?

    Raw. I'll send you them if you'd like. I have one for fido, one for whispernet and one for micronet


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