• a wrapping test

    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to All on Sun Jan 31 21:29:00 2021
    Hello y'All!

    This is just a test message to see if I can avoid unnecessary
    breaks by NOT using any CRs at all. This chunk of text is
    completely free-flow as I allow OpenXP to "break" the lines
    visually but it is NOT otherwise putting in any CRs that I can
    see.

    There is one CR above to end the paragraph. This is the next
    chunk of text I hope will look unadulterated when I view it with
    my Telegram app.

    //A




    --- OpenXP 5.0.48
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  • From Charles Pierson@1:106/127 to August Abolins on Sun Jan 31 20:41:52 2021
    On 31 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...

    Hello y'All!

    This is just a test message to see if I can avoid unnecessary
    breaks by NOT using any CRs at all. This chunk of text is
    completely free-flow as I allow OpenXP to "break" the lines
    visually but it is NOT otherwise putting in any CRs that I can
    see.

    There is one CR above to end the paragraph. This is the next
    chunk of text I hope will look unadulterated when I view it with
    my Telegram app.

    You use CRs other than at the end of a paragraph?

    It actually appears better to me than most messages have lately. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what I can do to adjust my screen size, since there is more on a line than us visible to me.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: theoasisbbs.ddns.net:1357 (1:106/127)
  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Charles Pierson on Mon Feb 1 08:19:42 2021
    On 31 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...

    Hello y'All!

    This is just a test message to see if I can avoid unnecessary
    breaks by NOT using any CRs at all. This chunk of text is completely free-flow as I allow OpenXP to "break" the lines
    visually but it is NOT otherwise putting in any CRs that I can
    see.

    There is one CR above to end the paragraph. This is the next
    chunk of text I hope will look unadulterated when I view it with
    my Telegram app.

    You use CRs other than at the end of a paragraph?

    It actually appears better to me than most messages have lately. I'm still
    trying to figure out exactly what I can do to adjust my screen size, since there is more on a line than us visible to me.

    OpenXP automatically wraps a line while typing, so a hard CR is not required. But when I force a re-flow for a paragraph I can see the clues from OpenXP that it adds hard CRs at the end of a line. I wanted to see if non-reflowed paragraphs (and hence no CRs) would remain consistent when the message is viewed with Telegram.

    Apparenty, it looks like OpenXP has soft returns or something because my test message was not a true free-flow format. The line lengths of the message were exactly the same in Thunderbird, and here.

    I am not sure what are meaning regarding your screensize. Do mean font size instead?


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  • From Charles Pierson@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Mon Feb 1 08:58:09 2021
    On 01 Feb 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    There is one CR above to end the paragraph. This is the next chunk of text I hope will look unadulterated when I view it with my Telegram app.

    You use CRs other than at the end of a paragraph?

    It actually appears better to me than most messages have lately. I'm
    still
    trying to figure out exactly what I can do to adjust my screen size, there is more on a line than us visible to me.

    OpenXP automatically wraps a line while typing, so a hard CR is not required. But when I force a re-flow for a paragraph I can see the clues from OpenXP that

    it adds hard CRs at the end of a line. I wanted to see if non-reflowed paragraphs (and hence no CRs) would remain consistent when the message
    is viewed with Telegram.

    Apparenty, it looks like OpenXP has soft returns or something because my test message was not a true free-flow format. The line lengths of the message were exactly the same in Thunderbird, and here.

    Do you have different margins or screen sizes between the two? Because I'm
    not understanding why the wrap would be different otherwise.

    I am not sure what are meaning regarding your screensize. Do mean font size instead?


    No, I mean screensize. I believe most PC BBS type software generall defaults
    to 80 X 25. On my phone it's actually more like 70 X 25. Well probaly more than 25 honestly, but that appears what it is set to for the programs.

    And while only 70 columns are visible, the text still goes 80 columns, so I have 10 columns that I don't actually see. Reading messages can be a challenge, but normally not too difficult. Context can usually fill in what's missing. However, I reach a point posting where I am typing blind. Which
    with my poor typing skills is a challenge.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: theoasisbbs.ddns.net:1357
  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.2 to Charles Pierson on Mon Feb 1 09:07:31 2021
    Do you have different margins or screen sizes between the two? Because I'm not understanding why the wrap would be different otherwise.

    OXP auto-adjusts the line-length to whatever I want as I write. I thought that process added hard CRs at the end of those lines.

    In OXP, a hard CR looks different than a soft CR.

    My test seemed to indicate that OXP puts in soft CRs if I don't do it myself.

    I was just wondering if the free-flow paragraph would retain the free-flow look when viewing it with Telegram. But it does not - therefore, the lines did indeed have soft CRs.

    I am not sure what are meaning regarding your screensize. Do mean font size instead?


    No, I mean screensize. I believe most PC BBS type software generall defaults to 80 X 25. On my phone it's actually more like 70 X 25. Well probaly more than 25 honestly, but that appears what it is set to for the programs.

    [snip]

    And while only 70 columns are visible, the text still goes 80 columns, so I have 10 columns that I don't actually see..

    Oh yeah.. now I remember you showing me a screenshot of that situation. That must suck. Is that only when operating in bbs-in-a-pocket mode?
    --- SBBSecho 3.12-Linux
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Charles Pierson@1:106/127 to August Abolins on Mon Feb 1 12:07:21 2021
    On 01 Feb 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    I am not sure what are meaning regarding your screensize. Do mean size instead?


    No, I mean screensize. I believe most PC BBS type software generall def to 80 X 25. On my phone it's actually more like 70 X 25. Well probaly than 25 honestly, but that appears what it is set to for the programs.

    [snip]

    And while only 70 columns are visible, the text still goes 80 columns, have 10 columns that I don't actually see..

    Oh yeah.. now I remember you showing me a screenshot of that situation. That must suck. Is that only when operating in bbs-in-a-pocket mode?
    --- SBBSecho 3.12-Linux

    If I use and Android Telnet app, It's not usually like that, or at least not
    as noticeable. I installed SyncTerm in My Termux setup, but haven't tried My BBS with it yet, although A couple of others look strange,in other ways.

    I'd like to try sime others, but I'm having trouble locating ANSI telnet programs that run from the command line in Linux.

    But I've set that to the side for the moment, I have content ideas I'm exploring that I'd like to figure out, as part of the overall "Make BBS relevant again" movement.

    I've got too many pans on the fire......,

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: theoasisbbs.ddns.net:1357 (1:106/127)