Hello All,

As Robert has already written, our CVS repository on sourceforge.net has now read only status. So I converted it from CVS to Git and moved the project to https://github.com/huskyproject

I converted all subprojects except hflist, mail2pkt and pkt2mail. These three subprojects have been in fact removed and are empty.

Now to some technical details. I put every subproject in a separate repository.
One could instead use submodules or subtrees. There is much lamentation to submodules in internet, I'll cite only this: 'Submodules are a weird balance: easy to set up, fraught with peril the entire rest of the projects life'. Subtrees are different but they are easy to use if there is only one master branch in the subtree. Otherwise the life complicates. That is why I chose a separate repo for each subproject. But it can be changed if your experience varies.

Conversion was done using cvs2git with (almost) default configuration. If one can suggest any improvements, it would be greatly appreciated.

All developers are kindly asked to send me their github names, so that I could send an invitation to the project.

Michael

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Hello Michael!

08 Jan 18 20:43, Michael Dukelsky wrote to All:

I converted all subprojects except hflist, mail2pkt and pkt2mail.
These three subprojects have been in fact removed and are empty.

Thanks a lot!

Now to some technical details. I put every subproject in a separate repository. One could instead use submodules or subtrees. There is
much lamentation to submodules in internet, I'll cite only this: 'Submodules are a weird balance: easy to set up, fraught with peril
the entire rest of the projects life'. Subtrees are different but
they are easy to use if there is only one master branch in the
subtree. Otherwise the life complicates. That is why I chose a
separate repo for each subproject. But it can be changed if your experience varies.

Uh, sounds a bit like overkill, but ok...
I used to have a few script that pulled me all husky cvs modules into git repos, but it looks like I cannot find that stuff anymore, don't know where I put it. Didn't do much more than "git cvsimport", anyway. ;-)

All developers are kindly asked to send me their github names, so
that I could send an invitation to the project.

My handle is gerritkuehn. Thanks again!


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Gerrit,

Tuesday January 09 2018, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

Now to some technical details. I put every subproject in a
separate repository. One could instead use submodules or
subtrees. There is much lamentation to submodules in internet,
I'll cite only this: 'Submodules are a weird balance: easy to set
up, fraught with peril the entire rest of the projects life'.
Subtrees are different but they are easy to use if there is only
one master branch in the subtree. Otherwise the life complicates.
That is why I chose a separate repo for each subproject. But it
can be changed if your experience varies.

Uh, sounds a bit like overkill, but ok...

Could you please explain what is overkill, a separate repo for each subproject,
number of subprojects or anything else?

My handle is gerritkuehn. Thanks again!

I've sent you an invitation.

Michael

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Hello Michael!

09 Jan 18 20:55, Michael Dukelsky wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

That is why I chose a separate repo for each subproject. But it
can be changed if your experience varies.

Uh, sounds a bit like overkill, but ok...

Could you please explain what is overkill, a separate repo for each subproject, number of subprojects or anything else?

The number of projects in total as they typically depend on each other (so it is not very useful to have only one of these). But never mind, electrons are cheap these days. :)

I've sent you an invitation.

Received and joined, thanks!


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Gerrit!

09 Jan 2018 20:08, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

The number of projects in total as they typically depend on each other (so it is not very useful to have only one of these). But never mind, electrons are cheap these days. :)

all i wanted was a stable qico

I've sent you an invitation.

Received and joined, thanks!

i like to get one aswell

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its 2018 ? :)


Regards Benny

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* Originally by: Gerrit Kuehn (2:240/12), 09 Jan 18 20:08.

Hello Michael!

09 Jan 18 20:08, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

I've sent you an invitation.

Received and joined, thanks!

I've been playing around with the repos a bit. Cloning worked like a charm. However, I just noticed that I appear to not have write permissions anywhere. Is this intentionally?

<gerrit@comet:~/git/husky/fastlst>
zsh/2 941 (git)-[master]-% git push
ERROR: Permission to huskyproject/fastlst.git denied to gerritkuehn.


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Benny!

10 Jan 18 18:08, Benny Pedersen wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

I've sent you an invitation.

Received and joined, thanks!

i like to get one aswell

You need to ask Michael. ;)


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Gerrit,

Wednesday January 10 2018, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

I've been playing around with the repos a bit. Cloning worked like a charm. However, I just noticed that I appear to not have write
permissions anywhere. Is this intentionally?

No, of course not. Sorry. I've changed the permission for all developers, so now you should be able to write.

Michael

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Hi Gerrit,

On 2018-01-09 20:08:00, you wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

I've sent you an invitation.

Received and joined, thanks!

I'm interested to know what subprojects of husky you are working on? Because you are not mentioned on http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Wilfred,

Thursday January 11 2018, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

I'm interested to know what subprojects of husky you are working on? Because you are not mentioned on
http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

The list is 10 years old. Here is the current list, it is accessible for admins
only at sf.net. Most of the guys have left Fidonet. I put the node numbers of those whom I know they are in the nodelist.

�Matthias Tichy (mtt)
�Pavel Gulchouck (pgul) 2:463/68
Tobias Ernst (os2tobi)
�Dmitry Sergienko (d_sergienko)
�Max Chernogor (mche)
�Stas Degteff (stas_degteff) 2:5080/102
�Sascha Silbe (sascha_silbe)
�Michael Dukelsky (dukelsky) 2:5020/1042
�Max Levenkov (max_levenkov)
�val khokhlov (val_khokhlov)
�Volker Quetschke (quetschke)
�Peter A Svistunov (petrucco)
Alexander Shiyan (shc)
�Stanislav Maslovski (s_i_m)
�Robert James Clay (jame) 1:120/546
�Ianos Gnatiuc (ssianky)
�Tema Zelikin (tema31)
�Nestyurkin Nikolay (nikn)
�stalker37 (stalker37) 2:5059/37
�Ivan Fedorov (nssoft)
�Michael Haase (it-dienste)
�Mike Gorchak (lmike)
�Gerrit Kuehn (gerritkuehn) 2:240/12
�Shilov Vladimir (shilov)
�Oliver Grimm (atti47)
�J. Stadelhoff (joergstadelhoff)
�Igor Zakharoff (i_zkh)
�Jesper Srensen (yeppe)
�Andrew Sagulin (andrews42)
�Gremlin from Kremlin (grsf) 2:5020/545
�Max Vasilyev (vasilyevmax) 2:5057/77
�Andrew Ladutsko (andrew_ladutsko)
�Andy U. Luk'yanov (andr_lukyanov)

Michael

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Hi Michael,

On 2018-01-11 13:18:20, you wrote to me:

http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

The list is 10 years old.

The website could need an update... ;)


Bye, Wilfred.

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08 Jan 18 20:43, you wrote to all:

As Robert has already written, our CVS repository on sourceforge.net has now read only status. So I converted it from CVS to Git and moved the project to https://github.com/huskyproject

Thanks.

All developers are kindly asked to send me their github names, so that I could send an invitation to the project.

I don't anticipate many contributions these days, but FWIW my Github name is zoomosis.

I think the last time I did any serious work on Msged was the 4.1 release, on 1997-02-02. Almost 21 years ago!

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Hello Michael!

11 Jan 18 11:06, Michael Dukelsky wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

No, of course not. Sorry. I've changed the permission for all
developers, so now you should be able to write.

Thanks, I'll try again.


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Wilfred!

11 Jan 18 09:33, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

Received and joined, thanks!

I'm interested to know what subprojects of husky you are working on?

Currently on none, I guess. But maybe I could pick that up again in the future.

Because you are not mentioned on
http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

I guess hardly anyone of the recent developers is mentioned there, the page is really outdated. Might be one thing to work on... ;-)
Last thing I have been doing was work on porting fastlst, but that was more than a decade ago.


Regards,
Gerrit

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* Originally by: Gerrit Kuehn (2:240/12), 11 Jan 18 17:14.

Hello Michael!

11 Jan 18 17:14, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

Thanks, I'll try again.

Works, thanks!


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello andrew,

Friday January 12 2018, andrew clarke wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

I don't anticipate many contributions these days, but FWIW my Github
name is zoomosis.

I think the last time I did any serious work on Msged was the 4.1
release, on 1997-02-02. Almost 21 years ago!

Cool! Feel free to make more work useful for the community. If you improve something in the code, just open a pull request.

Michael

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Hi Michael,
On 2018-01-11 13:18:20, you wrote to me:

http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

The list is 10 years old.

The website could need an update... ;)

Both the old one at Sourceforge and the new one, which would be at https://huskyproject.github.io.

The 'homepage' repo at https://github.com/huskyproject can either be renamed or forked, depending on how we want to do it.

I think the 'homepage' repo should be pushed to the SourceForge project and then the one at the GitHub project renamed to "huskyproject.github.io". Then we all can work on the web site there as we can. (I'd be glad to work on initial updates to adapt it to being on GitHub...)




Jame



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Hi Rj,

On 2018-01-15 10:06:24, you wrote to me:

http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

The list is 10 years old.

The website could need an update... ;)

Both the old one at Sourceforge and the new one, which would be at https://huskyproject.github.io.

This url gives a 404 error...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Rj Clay:

Hi Rj,

On 2018-01-15 10:06:24, you wrote to me:

http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

The list is 10 years old.

The website could need an update... ;)

Both the old one at Sourceforge and the new one, which would be

at

https://huskyproject.github.io.

This url gives a 404 error...

And will until the 'huskyproject.github.io' repo is created (either by renameing the 'homepage' repo or forking it). That's why I said "would be"...

It's part of GitHubs 'Pages' functionality. If you're not aware; that's where if one has a repo named '<user name or org name>.github.io', one can have
web site there and GH makes it available as a website.


Jame



Greetings, Rj Clay
email: admftn@ftn.rocasa.net

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Hello Rj,

Wednesday January 17 2018, Rj Clay wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

https://huskyproject.github.io.

This url gives a 404 error...

And will until the 'huskyproject.github.io' repo is created (either
by renameing the 'homepage' repo or forking it). That's why I said
"would be"...

It's part of GitHubs 'Pages' functionality. If you're not aware; that's where if one has a repo named '<user name or org
name>.github.io', one can have web site there and GH makes it
available as a website.

In fact there are more options to publish the 'homepage' repository. https://help.github.com/articles/configuring-a-publishing-source-for-github-pages/

I've set the source of GitHub Pages to the master branch of 'homepage' repository and the site now is at
https://huskyproject.github.io/homepage/

But the site is outdated and needs an update. It would be very good if you could do the job.

Michael

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Michael Dukelsky wrote to Rj Clay:

Hello Rj,

Wednesday January 17 2018, Rj Clay wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

https://huskyproject.github.io.

This url gives a 404 error...

And will until the 'huskyproject.github.io' repo is created
either by renameing the 'homepage' repo or forking it). That's why
I said "would be"...

It's part of GitHubs 'Pages' functionality. If you're not aware; that's where if one has a repo named '<user name or org name>.github.io', one can have web site there and GH makes it available as a website.

In fact there are more options to publish the 'homepage' repository.

https://help.github.com/articles/configuring-a-publishing-source-for-github

-pages/

I've set the source of GitHub Pages to the master branch of 'homepage' repository and the site now is at
https://huskyproject.github.io/homepage/

Yes, that's the way to do it for an individual git repository, usually using
a branch named 'gh-pages' and that's how I've done it for other sites I'm associated with at github. For the user or project wide site, the
repository would need to be named huskyproject.github.io, in order for it to
be available at https://huskyproject.githup.io. One can then also have a domain
name that can redirect to that but someone one would have to maintain the domain name in dns; I use that functionality for one of mine site there.

But the site is outdated and needs an update. It would be very good if you could do the job.

I'd be glad to (in part to make up for how long it's been since I worked on
the one at SourceForge...<g>) but it's the web site for the whole husky project
so I'll wait until the repository is renamed properly for that.




Jame


Greetings, Rj Clay
email: admftn@ftn.rocasa.net

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Wilfred,

On 2018-01-15 10:06:24, you wrote to me:

http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

The list is 10 years old.

The website could need an update... ;)

Both the old one at Sourceforge and the new one, which would be at
https://huskyproject.github.io.

This url gives a 404 error...

That's because the repo for GitHub to make that site available as 'huskyproject.github.io' is not there yet.



Jame


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Hello Rj,

Thursday January 18 2018, Rj Clay wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

I've set the source of GitHub Pages to the master branch of
'homepage' repository and the site now is at
https://huskyproject.github.io/homepage/

Yes, that's the way to do it for an individual git repository,
usually using a branch named 'gh-pages' and that's how I've done it
for other sites I'm associated with at github. For the user or
project wide site, the repository would need to be named huskyproject.github.io, in order for it to be available at https://huskyproject.githup.io. One can then also have a domain name
that can redirect to that but someone one would have to maintain
the domain name in dns; I use that functionality for one of mine site there.

But the site is outdated and needs an update. It would be very
good if you could do the job.

I'd be glad to (in part to make up for how long it's been since I worked on the one at SourceForge...<g>) but it's the web site for the whole husky project so I'll wait until the repository is renamed
properly for that.

I've renamed the 'homepage' repository to 'huskyproject.githup.io' but now the site is at a weird address of https://huskyproject.github.io/huskyproject.githup.io/
:-(
Are you sure that this variant is better?

Looks like the common form of the site URL is https://organization_name.github.io/repository_name

Now everyone who cloned the repository as 'homepage' has to run the following command in the local repository:

(if you access GitHub using ssh)
git remote set-url origin git@github.com:huskyproject/huskyproject.githup.io.git

or
(if you access GitHub using https)
git remote set-url origin https://github.com/huskyproject/huskyproject.githup.io.git

It is not mandatory but it is strongly recommended.

Michael

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Hi Rj,

On 2018-01-18 15:24:30, you wrote to me:

https://huskyproject.github.io.

This url gives a 404 error...

That's because the repo for GitHub to make that site available as 'huskyproject.github.io' is not there yet.

Are you alright? ;)

Yesterday you replied to the same message, with a similar answer...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Michael,

Friday January 19 2018, Michael Dukelsky wrote to Rj Clay:

I've renamed the 'homepage' repository to 'huskyproject.githup.io' but

^^^^^^
It was a misspelling. I fixed it and now it's OK. The site is at https://huskyproject.github.io/

Michael

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Wilfred,

On 2018-01-18 15:24:30, you wrote to me:

https://huskyproject.github.io.

This url gives a 404 error...

That's because the repo for GitHub to make that site available as
'huskyproject.github.io' is not there yet.

Are you alright? ;)
Yesterday you replied to the same message, with a similar answer...

Indeed I am, thanks for asking...



Jame


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