• Referendum for Russians

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to All on Sat Sep 24 00:53:39 2022
    Finally a creative solution to end Mad Vlad's attempt to become the next Stalin of Russia. Kudos to the Netherlands.

    https://youtu.be/OVv3ofeBnME



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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Björn Felten on Sat Sep 24 09:13:16 2022
    Finally a creative solution to end Mad Vlad's attempt to become the next Stalin of Russia. Kudos to the Netherlands.

    https://youtu.be/OVv3ofeBnME

    Arjen Lubach is fantastic ...

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Björn Felten on Sat Sep 24 21:17:00 2022
    Hello Bj”rn Felten!

    ** On Saturday 24.09.22 - 00:53, Bj”rn Felten wrote to All:

    Finally a creative solution to end Mad Vlad's attempt to
    become the next Stalin of Russia. Kudos to the
    Netherlands.

    https://youtu.be/OVv3ofeBnME

    That was excellent. I like his introduction.. "Putin is
    conducting a referrendum in a country that isn't even his!"

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Bj?rn Felten on Mon Sep 26 09:34:55 2022
    Hi, Bj?rn Felten!
    I read your message from 24.09.2022 01:53

    BF> Finally a creative solution to end Mad Vlad's attempt to become
    BF> the next Stalin of Russia. Kudos to the Netherlands.
    BF> https://youtu.be/OVv3ofeBnME

    It could fun if Russians in Donbass would not be killed every day by Ukrainians. In this situation it is easy to understand their desire for Russia.

    Bye, Bj?rn!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to August Abolins on Mon Sep 26 09:50:38 2022
    Hi, August Abolins!
    I read your message from 25.09.2022 04:17

    AA> That was excellent. I like his introduction.. "Putin is
    AA> conducting a referrendum in a country that isn't even his!"

    But it is a wrong conception that everything happening on Donbass
    happens only after Putin word. The background of the evens much more complicated. I would even say that after 2014 Donbass problem became a
    pain in Russia's ass.

    Bye, August!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to alexander koryagin on Mon Sep 26 00:06:58 2022
    It could fun if Russians in Donbass would not be killed every day by Ukrainians.

    The Russians being killed in Ukraine invaded the country with the objective of Killing Ukrainians (even those with Russian links) in order to take over the country.

    Of course that didn't happen.

    In this situation it is easy to understand their desire for Russia.

    There is little "desire" for Russia in Ukraine.

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to alexander koryagin on Mon Sep 26 13:23:53 2022
    Alexander,

    But it is a wrong conception that everything happening on Donbass
    happens only after Putin word. The background of the evens much more complicated. I would even say that after 2014 Donbass problem became a
    pain in Russia's ass.

    If you see how the Ukrainian military is now whipping the ass of the Russian military, it is difficult to deny that same Ukrainian military could have easily have handled the Donbas insurgency if it really wanted to... unless the latter was already military supported by Russia.

    Be serious, a few insurgents without military training nor command structure would never have been a match ...

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Alan Ianson on Tue Sep 27 08:20:20 2022
    Hi, Alan Ianson!
    I read your message from 26.09.2022 10:06

    ak>> It could fun if Russians in Donbass would not be killed every day
    ak>> by Ukrainians.

    AI> The Russians being killed in Ukraine invaded the country with the
    AI> objective of Killing Ukrainians (even those with Russian links) in
    AI> order to take over the country.

    The civilians in Donbass are killed every day during Ukrainian shelling
    and rocket strikes. Donetsk areas are targeted specially and often indiscriminately. I understand that video reports are not shown in the
    "free" western media and you don't know about the situation.

    AI> Of course that didn't happen.

    ak>> In this situation it is easy to understand their desire for
    ak>> Russia.

    AI> There is little "desire" for Russia in Ukraine.

    It depends on whom the Donbass people blame for putting Ukraine into a
    present unnatural, pornographic stance. Everything had been fine and democratic until fucking nationalists came to power during the 2014 coup.

    I believe they should have a feeling of remorse for what they have done
    to Ukraine, for sowing a blooming hatred and violence across the country.

    Bye, Alan!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Ward Dossche on Tue Sep 27 09:09:02 2022
    Hi, Ward Dossche!
    I read your message from 26.09.2022 14:23

    ak>> But it is a wrong conception that everything happening on
    ak>> Donbass happens only after Putin word. The background of
    ak>> the evens much more complicated. I would even say that
    ak>> after 2014 Donbass problem became a pain in Russia's ass.
    WD> If you see how the Ukrainian military is now whipping the ass
    WD> of the Russian military, it is difficult to deny that same
    WD> Ukrainian military could have easily have handled the Donbas
    insurgency
    WD> if it really wanted to... unless the latter was already military
    WD> supported by Russia.

    Ukraine military indeed wanted to handle the Donbass in a military way,
    and they collected military forced there. Ukraine didn't want to follow
    the Minsk agreements. Hatred has switched off their brains.

    Bye, Ward!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to alexander koryagin on Mon Sep 26 23:59:46 2022
    The Russians being killed in Ukraine invaded the country with the
    objective of Killing Ukrainians (even those with Russian links) in
    order to take over the country.

    The civilians in Donbass are killed every day during Ukrainian shelling
    and rocket strikes. Donetsk areas are targeted specially and often indiscriminately.

    Just so you know, that might have something to do with their separatist activities that Russia is so proud to sponsor.

    I understand that video reports are not shown in the "free" western media
    and you don't know about the situation.

    Yes, we have the truth here as well as all the propaganda.

    There is little "desire" for Russia in Ukraine.

    It depends on whom the Donbass people blame for putting Ukraine into a present unnatural, pornographic stance.

    Pornographic stance?

    Everything had been fine and democratic until fucking nationalists came to power during the 2014 coup.

    That was not a coup. It was a popular uprising.

    I believe they should have a feeling of remorse for what they have done
    to Ukraine, for sowing a blooming hatred and violence across the country.

    I agree, Russia should be feeling remorse (at least) for what they have done and continue to do in Ukraine.

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to alexander koryagin on Tue Sep 27 10:08:54 2022
    The civilians in Donbass are killed every day during Ukrainian shelling
    and rocket strikes. Donetsk areas are targeted specially and often indiscriminately. I understand that video reports are not shown in the "free" western media and you don't know about the situation.

    On the contrary. We have our own news crews present in Ukraine on both sides of the front.

    Because of this, French TV has documented the fraud and pressure and threats during the phoney current referenda. The chair of the local election committee, when confronted, said "This is not right".

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Wed Sep 28 02:58:05 2022
    Hello Alexander,

    [..]

    Ukraine military indeed wanted to handle the Donbass in a military way, and they collected military forced there. Ukraine didn't want to follow the Minsk agreements. Hatred has switched off their brains.

    Neither side honored the Minsk agreements. And that was before
    Russia decided to invade. Now in tatters, there is no agreement
    at all. Which apparently is what both sides want.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Ward Dossche on Wed Sep 28 09:57:35 2022
    Hi Ward Dossche!
    I read your message on 28-Sep-2022

    ak>> The civilians in Donbass are killed every day during Ukrainian
    ak>> shelling and rocket strikes. Donetsk areas are targeted specially
    ak>> and often indiscriminately. I understand that video reports are
    ak>> not shown in the "free" western media and you don't know about the
    ak>> situation.

    WD> On the contrary. We have our own news crews present in Ukraine on
    WD> both sides of the front.

    WD> Because of this, French TV has documented the fraud and pressure
    WD> and threats during the phoney current referenda. The chair of the
    WD> local election committee, when confronted, said "This is not
    WD> right".

    And they denied of course Ukrainian shelling? ;-) Well, it is very
    difficult for press to make a correct picture of it. The press has
    limited access to the events. It looks like a blind, groping an elefant
    and describing how it looks.

    Bye Ward!
    Alexander
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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Sep 28 10:11:04 2022
    Hi Lee Lofaso!
    I read your message on 28-Sep-2022

    ak>> Ukraine military indeed wanted to handle the Donbass in a military
    ak>> way, and they collected military forced there. Ukraine didn't want
    ak>> to follow the Minsk agreements. Hatred has switched off their
    ak>> brains.

    LL> Neither side honored the Minsk agreements. And that was before
    LL> Russia decided to invade. Now in tatters, there is no agreement at
    LL> all. Which apparently is what both sides want.

    The Putin's invasion began after Ukraine escalated the conflict. Heavy
    weapon was tugged again to Donbass, shelling stared every day. As we see
    now -- Ukraine had concentrated there a great force.

    Bye Lee!
    Alexander
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to alexander koryagin on Wed Sep 28 00:20:44 2022
    The Putin's invasion began after Ukraine escalated the conflict. Heavy
    weapon was tugged again to Donbass, shelling stared every day. As we see
    now -- Ukraine had concentrated there a great force.

    Yes, Russia tugged heavy weapons to Ukraine and has attacked Ukrainian soldiers and the poeple of the Donbass. That started before the invasion of Feb 24.

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Alan Ianson on Wed Sep 28 09:30:50 2022
    Yes, Russia tugged heavy weapons to Ukraine and has attacked Ukrainian soldiers and the poeple of the Donbass. That started before the invasion
    of Feb 24.

    Russia also shot down civilian airliner Malaysian Airlines MH17 over Ukraine.

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