Hi, All!

The British fucking democracy has given Assange an extradite order to
the fucking US democracy. ;-\

Snowden was right when he chose Putin.

Bye, All!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello, alexander!

Wednesday April 20 2022 16:26, you wrote to All:

Snowden was right when he chose Putin.

Snowden stopped posting anything online since 28.02. Looks like he has nothing to say to the world :)

Best regards,
dp.

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The British fucking democracy has given Assange an extradite order to
the fucking US democracy. ;-\

It will be appealed, and then some more, and then some more ...

If ever he gets to the USA, they have a problem. He could be convicted in the US but serve his time in an Australian facility ...

You should read up on the strange case of Dominique Prieur ... sentenced to 10 years for the bombing of the Rainbow Warrior but allowed to serve her time on French territory, Hao-island, a tropical resort where she got pregnant and subsequently sent to France for "health reasons" ...

Strange things happen in life ...

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Hi, Ward Dossche!
I read your message from 20.04.2022 18:17

ak>> The British fucking democracy has given Assange an
ak>> extradite order to the fucking US democracy. ;-\
WD> It will be appealed, and then some more, and then some more ...
WD> If ever he gets to the USA, they have a problem. He could be
WD> convicted in the US but serve his time in an Australian
WD> facility

Yeah, after a death sentence he will server his time at an Australian cemetery.

Bye, Ward!
Alexander Koryagin
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Alexander,

It will be appealed, and then some more, and then some more ...
If ever he gets to the USA, they have a problem. He could be
convicted in the US but serve his time in an Australian
facility

Yeah, after a death sentence he will server his time at an Australian cemetery.

We know in the meantime how well you research the news when posting here, which is why I am not surprized you have no clue.

As part of the deal of the extradition request the US has agreed on the type of sentencing if found guilty and agreed any such sentence could be fullfilled in Australia. A death sentence is by definition ruled-out.

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Hi, Ward Dossche!
I read your message from 21.04.2022 10:30

ak>> Yeah, after a death sentence he will server his time at an
ak>> Australian cemetery.
WD> We know in the meantime how well you research the news when
WD> posting here, which is why I am not surprized you have no clue.
WD> As part of the deal of the extradition request the US has
WD> agreed on the type of sentencing if found guilty and agreed any such
WD> sentence could be fullfilled in Australia. A death sentence is by
WD> definition ruled-out.

Happy prison to you, Julian! Australia -- another piece of $%$@&
democracy. ;-) Demanding for Assange freedom is out of question.

Bye, Ward!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello, alexander!

Friday April 22 2022 13:32, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

Happy prison to you, Julian! Australia -- another piece of $%$@& democracy. ;-) Demanding for Assange freedom is out of question.

It's very funny to see that comment from citizen of Russian where journalists are beeing jailed for treason every year.
Ivan Safronov is currently on trial and this trial is just a joke.
And even go to the street to protest against that is a crime.

That's why Snowden is quite about war in Ukraine, because he knows the limits. And don't wont go try Russian jail, where torture is a very common thing.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 22.04.2022 14:28

ak>> Happy prison to you, Julian! Australia -- another piece of
ak>> $%$@& democracy. ;-) Demanding for Assange freedom is
ak>> out of question.
DP> It's very funny to see that comment from citizen of Russian
DP> where journalists are beeing jailed for treason every year.

Indeed funny. In Russia he will be at large. ;-)

DP> Ivan Safronov is currently on trial and this trial is just a
DP> joke. And even go to the street to protest against that is a
DP> crime. That's why Snowden is quite about war in Ukraine,
DP> because he knows the limits. And don't wont go try Russian jail, where
DP> torture is a very common thing.

I've always said that the truth about America and Europe we can find in Russia, and vice versa. ;) That's why we see a tendency to shut up
Russian media in the west.

Bye, Dmitry!
Alexander Koryagin
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I've always said that the truth about America and Europe we can find in Russia, and vice versa. ;) That's why we see a tendency to shut up
Russian media in the west.

We found it very funny that Russian media are accusing Ukraine from attacking Russia ...

How perverted can you become ...

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Hello, alexander!

Tuesday April 26 2022 08:40, you wrote to me:

It's very funny to see that comment from citizen of Russian
where journalists are beeing jailed for treason every year.

Indeed funny. In Russia he will be at large. ;-)

In Russia

Ivan Safronov is currently on trial and this trial is just a
joke. And even go to the street to protest against that is a
crime. That's why Snowden is quite about war in Ukraine,
because he knows the limits. And don't wont go try Russian jail,
where torture is a very common thing.

I've always said that the truth about America and Europe we can find
in Russia, and vice versa. ;) That's why we see a tendency to shut up

No, you can't find any truth in Russia, because current regime is based on lies.

Russian media in the west.

I don't see any Russian website blocked in USA. Do you know any?

Best regards,
dp.

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Ward Dossche wrote to alexander koryagin <=-

I've always said that the truth about America and Europe we can find in Russia, and vice versa. ;) That's why we see a tendency to shut up
Russian media in the west.

We found it very funny that Russian media are accusing Ukraine
from attacking Russia ...

How perverted can you become ...

Why do you people even continue replying to this obvious Russian troll
idiot?



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Hi Dan,

Why do you people even continue replying to this obvious Russian troll idiot?

Your question/remark is justified.

For my part I like to see the level of nonsense which can be reached by Russian trolls ... It's amazing.

Venting this nonsense is one thing, but believing it? I cannot wrap my mind around it all this is happening and someone really honestly believes it.

It is the single biggest carefully plotted propaganda effort in world history, even Goebels did not reach this level ...

And it's not just Putin, it's a carefully oiled well running machine.

I just hope that in a few years, Russians will not have to say "Wir haben es nicht gewueszt" ...

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Why do you people even continue replying to this obvious Russian troll
idiot?

Is he a Russian troll?

He supports Putin in whatever he does but I don't think that makes him a troll. A blind follower perhaps.

He is trolling in this area. He could find a more topical area to post in. I have given him suggestions but he doesn't seem to be willing to move to a more appropriate area.

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Hello Alan,

Why do you people even continue replying to this obvious Russian troll
idiot?

Is he a Russian troll?

There are no trolls in this forum, Russian or otherwise.

He supports Putin in whatever he does but I don't think that makes him a troll. A blind follower perhaps.

Military History is a subject of interest to many people around the
world. Not limited to Russians or any other specific nationality.

He is trolling in this area. He could find a more topical area to post in. I
have given him suggestions but he doesn't seem to be willing to move to a more appropriate area.

A more topical area? How about MILITARY HISTORY? Too many letters
for an ECHOTAG? Then how about MILHIST? I am sure you, or some other
sysop, can easily create such an echo.

Trolling? That can be a good thing, not necesarilly an evil. Without
folks who are willing to question issues, what can there be to debate
about? I say bring them on! All of them! Running away from althernate
facts is only admitting one's own failure to not having an answer!

So yeah! Come one, come all! ALL TROLLS WELCOME!

--Lee

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Hello Ward,

Why do you people even continue replying to this obvious Russian DC>troll

idiot?

Your question/remark is justified.

According to recent polls, 83% of Russian approve of Putin's
"propaganda". How may Belgians approve of your leader's propaganda?

For my part I like to see the level of nonsense which can be reached by Russian trolls ... It's amazing.

The level of nonsense which ca be reached by Belgian trolls can also
be amazing.

Venting this nonsense is one thing, but believing it?

Many people believe anything that Donald Trump says, and truly
believe every word he utters. Not just Americans, but also others
around the world.

I cannot wrap my mind around it all this is happening and someone really honestly believes it.

I can introduce you to several Trumpers ... some of whom can even
be found within the realms of Fidonet.

It is the single biggest carefully plotted propaganda effort in world history, even Goebels did not reach this level ...

It is quite apparent you have never met Donald J. Trump in person ...

And it's not just Putin, it's a carefully oiled well running machine.

Do realize the last election was stolen. Trump has never conceded.
And he never will.

I just hope that in a few years, Russians will not have to say "Wir haben es
nicht gewueszt" ...

Trump's daddy spoke fluent German, but Donald is all about MAGA.
English only, you understand?

--Lee

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 26.04.2022 15:11

ak>> Russian media in the west.
DP> I don't see any Russian website blocked in USA. Do you know any?

Modern Americans can't read. They only watch TV and media. ;-) well, it
is a world tendency.

Bye, Dmitry!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Dan Clough!
I read your message from 26.04.2022 15:59

ak>> I've always said that the truth about America and Europe we
ak>> can find in Russia, and vice versa. ;) That's why we see a
ak>> tendency to shut up Russian media in the west.
WD>> We found it very funny that Russian media are accusing
WD>> Ukraine from attacking Russia ...
WD>> How perverted can you become ...
DC> Why do you people even continue replying to this obvious
DC> Russian troll idiot?

The rumour about meat has pierced an American heart. ;=))

Bye, Dan!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Lee Lofaso!
I read your message from 27.04.2022 08:11

AI>> He is trolling in this area. He could find a more topical
AI>> area to post in. I have given him suggestions but he
AI>> doesn't seem to be willing to move to a more appropriate
AI>> area.
LL> A more topical area? How about MILITARY HISTORY? Too many
LL> letters for an ECHOTAG? Then how about MILHIST? I am sure you,
LL> or some other sysop, can easily create such an echo.
LL> Trolling? That can be a good thing, not necesarilly an evil.
LL> Without folks who are willing to question issues, what can
LL> there be to debate about? I say bring them on! All of them!
LL> Running away from althernate facts is only admitting one's own
LL> failure to not having an answer! So yeah! Come one, come all!
LL> ALL TROLLS WELCOME!

Well, remove from this area the messages connected with me and you will
see the dead area. ;-) Do you want to see it? As for moving to another
area, I have no much desire to discuss the things that have already been discussed not once. No sense. And if somebody wants my opinion don't be
shy to ask here.

Bye, Lee!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello, alexander!

Wednesday April 27 2022 10:23, you wrote to me:

Russian media in the west.

I don't see any Russian website blocked in USA. Do you know any?

Modern Americans can't read. They only watch TV and media. ;-) well,

They can watch any video from Russian websites. They are not blocked.
It's not like internet censorship in Russia where people cannot access twitter, facebook or instagram.


Best regards,
dp.

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Hello Ward!

** On Tuesday 26.04.22 - 18:05, you wrote to Dan Clough:

I just hope that in a few years, Russians will not have to say "Wir haben es nicht gewueszt" ...

The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by
those who watch them without doing anything. - Albert Einstein

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 27.04.2022 11:44

ak>>>> Russian media in the west.
DP>>> I don't see any Russian website blocked in USA. Do you
DP>>> know any?
ak>> Modern Americans can't read. They only watch TV and media.
ak>> ;-) well,
DP> They can watch any video from Russian websites. They are not
DP> blocked. It's not like internet censorship in Russia where
DP> people cannot access twitter, facebook or instagram.

You can try in my way -- I tried to to ask Google "Russia Today TV
english" as a European citizen using a Tor browser. Ha-ha-ha! ;-)

Bye, Dmitry!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello, alexander!

Wednesday April 27 2022 16:47, you wrote to me:

You can try in my way -- I tried to to ask Google "Russia Today TV english" as a European citizen using a Tor browser. Ha-ha-ha! ;-)

You are not European citizen, so I don't understand how you get european citizenship even using Tor browser.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello alexander!

27 Apr 22 10:23, you wrote to Dmitry Protasoff:

Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 26.04.2022 15:11

Russian media in the west.

I don't see any Russian website blocked in USA. Do you know any?

Modern Americans can't read. They only watch TV and media. ;-) well,
it is a world tendency.

You keep movin' those goalposts there, bud. First it was "Russian websites are blocked in the USA" now it's "Americans can't read"

Everyone in this echo can see through you like you're Wonder Woman's jet. No one is laughing with you, we're all laughing at you.



Mike


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Mike Miller wrote to alexander koryagin <=-

Modern Americans can't read. They only watch TV and media. ;-) well,
it is a world tendency.

You keep movin' those goalposts there, bud. First it was
"Russian websites are blocked in the USA" now it's "Americans
can't read"

Everyone in this echo can see through you like you're Wonder
Woman's jet. No one is laughing with you, we're all laughing at
you.

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Hello Alexander,

He is trolling in this area. He could find a more topical
area to post in. I have given him suggestions but he
doesn't seem to be willing to move to a more appropriate
area.

A more topical area? How about MILITARY HISTORY? Too many
letters for an ECHOTAG? Then how about MILHIST? I am sure you,
or some other sysop, can easily create such an echo.
Trolling? That can be a good thing, not necesarilly an evil.
Without folks who are willing to question issues, what can
there be to debate about? I say bring them on! All of them!
Running away from althernate facts is only admitting one's own
failure to not having an answer! So yeah! Come one, come all!
ALL TROLLS WELCOME!

Well, remove from this area the messages connected with me and you will see the dead area. ;-) Do you want to see it?

Been there. Done that. Got boring. Very quickly. No fun for anybody.

As for moving to another area, I have no much desire to discuss the things that have already been discussed not once. No sense. And if somebody wants my opinion don't be shy to ask here.

This has always been an open echo. As far as I can remember. The
previous editor was even more open-minded than the current editor,
going on record as editor saying handles and aliases should be
allowed in all Fidonet echoes, including the Fidonews. If that is
not a pro-troll position, I do not know what is.

In an open echo, such as the Fidonews, all topics should be open
for discussion. Choosing to present new subjects, or to participate
in a discussion is an individual choice, not one that is imposed on
anybody.

No one, without exception, should be forced to leave such an echo.
Especially on fallacious claims of illegal activity (free speech is
not a criminal act).

What is of general interest is something that is up to those who
participate in an echo. It is not up to me or any other individual
to decide what is to be that subject(s).

I can present a subject that I think might be of interest to others.
But it is up to others to decide what they find is of interest to them.

Current polls show President Vladimir Putin having an 83% approval
rate among the Russian people. Is this fake news? I'll let others use
whatever search engines they want and look up the details.

Maybe there is something news sources outside of Russia do not
want to talk about. Hmmm ...

--Lee

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 27.04.2022 17:10

ak>> You can try in my way -- I tried to to ask Google "Russia
ak>> Today TV english" as a European citizen using a Tor
ak>> browser. Ha-ha-ha! ;-)
DP> You are not European citizen, so I don't understand how you get
DP> european citizenship even using Tor browser.

Via Tor I was like being in Europe.

Bye, Dmitry!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Mike Miller!
I read your message from 27.04.2022 21:15

ak>>>> Russian media in the west.
DP>>> I don't see any Russian website blocked in USA. Do you
DP>>> know any?
ak>> Modern Americans can't read. They only watch TV and media.
ak>> ;-) well, it is a world tendency.
MM> You keep movin' those goalposts there, bud. First it was
MM> "Russian websites are blocked in the USA" now it's "Americans
MM> can't read"

So you said Americans are allowed to open https://www.rt.com and watch
Russia Today? Is it true? (It is just interesting for me). As I see it
now it is the most hard access site if I connect via VPN from Russia.

Bye, Mike!
Alexander Koryagin
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european citizenship even using Tor browser.

Via Tor I was like being in Europe.

The troll's confusion is total. It can't be easy living in a country where you never learn to separate fact from fantasy.

A. Being in Europe doesn't make you a European citizen.

B. Since Europe is not a country, there is no such thing as a European citizenship.



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Hello Dmitry,

You can try in my way -- I tried to to ask Google "Russia Today TV
english" as a European citizen using a Tor browser. Ha-ha-ha! ;-)

You are not European citizen, so I don't understand how you get european citizenship even using Tor browser.

Russia is a part of Europe. Ergo, Alexander is a citizen of Europe.

"I am a citizen of the world!" ~Diogenes the Dog

--Lee

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Hi, Bj?rn Felten!
I read your message from 28.04.2022 09:56

ak>> Via Tor I was like being in Europe.
BF> The troll's confusion is total. It can't be easy living in
BF> a country where you never learn to separate fact from fantasy.
BF> A. Being in Europe doesn't make you a European citizen.
BF> B. Since Europe is not a country, there is no such thing as a
BF> European citizenship.

I meant I checked internet access to some Russian resources using Tor
browser, and the final Tor point for it was in "free" Europe.

Bye, Bj?rn!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Lee Lofaso!
I read your message from 28.04.2022 10:18

ak>>> You can try in my way -- I tried to to ask Google
ak>>> "Russia Today TV english" as a European citizen using a
ak>>> Tor browser. Ha-ha-ha! ;-)
DP>> You are not European citizen, so I don't understand how you
DP>> get european citizenship even using Tor browser.
LL> Russia is a part of Europe. Ergo, Alexander is a citizen of
LL> Europe. "I am a citizen of the world!" ~Diogenes the Dog

To understand how a Tor user can be treated a citizen of Europe (or the
US) you need to read about Tor browser.

Some funny IT guys in Europe, for instance, have restricted access to
their sites for IPs from Russia. ;=)) Probably due to a total ignorance
they don't know that I can use Tor to download whatever I want. ;)

Bye, Lee!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello, alexander!

Thursday April 28 2022 09:35, you wrote to me:

You are not European citizen, so I don't understand how you get
european citizenship even using Tor browser.

Via Tor I was like being in Europe.

Europe is big. Even Moscow is in Europe. Even Belarus.

Best regards,
dp.

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*** Answering a msg posted in area carbonArea (Carbon Area).

Hello, Lee!

Thursday April 28 2022 09:18, you wrote to me:

You are not European citizen, so I don't understand how you get
european citizenship even using Tor browser.

Russia is a part of Europe. Ergo, Alexander is a citizen of Europe.

It was publicly announced in Russia many times during last 2 months that we are not part of Europe anymore ;)

"I am a citizen of the world!" ~Diogenes the Dog

It's a crime in Russia already. Our president call such people "national trators".

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, alexander!

Thursday April 28 2022 13:01, you wrote to Lee Lofaso:

Europe. "I am a citizen of the world!" ~Diogenes the Dog

To understand how a Tor user can be treated a citizen of Europe (or
the US) you need to read about Tor browser.

Tor is officially blocked in Russia, btw. So you are treating our Russian restrictions like they are not for you? :)


Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, alexander koryagin.
On 4/28/22 9:53 AM you wrote:

Modern Americans can't read. They only watch TV and media. ;-)
well, it is a world tendency.

You keep movin' those goalposts there, bud. First it was
"Russian websites are blocked in the USA" now it's "Americans
can't read"

So you said Americans are allowed to open https://www.rt.com and
watch Russia Today? Is it true? (It is just interesting for me).
As I see it now it is the most hard access site if I connect via
VPN from Russia.

I just opened it. I was able to play the "live" video. I'm in Wisconsin, about 275km north-northwest of Chicago.

I'm not on a VPN. I use a very common internet provider, and my public ip address matches up with my location in the various ip/location databases.


Russian sites are not blocked here.



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Mike
I just BBS: warensemble.com
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It was publicly announced in Russia many times during last 2 months that
we are not part of Europe anymore ;)

It was also announced that all crew members of the Moskva were safely evacuated..

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Hello, Ward!

Thursday April 28 2022 15:58, you wrote to me:

It was also announced that all crew members of the Moskva were safely evacuated..

Yes, parents of dead sailors still can't get any information about their sons. Officially only 1 sailor died, the rest are "missing".
Very cynical.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 28.04.2022 17:13

WD>> It was also announced that all crew members of the Moskva
WD>> were safely evacuated..
DP> Yes, parents of dead sailors still can't get any information
DP> about their sons. Officially only 1 sailor died, the rest are
DP> "missing". Very cynical.

The military says about 27 sailors missed and 1 dead. I don't think it
is a lie for two reasons. First, it impossible to hide big numbers of
dead, second, the blow on the ship was local, and they even tried to tag
it to Sevastopol. But another matter when you open your eyes wider, to
see big numbers of killed, and 28 is not big enough.

Bye, Dmitry!
Alexander Koryagin
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The military says about 27 sailors missed and 1 dead. I don't think it
is a lie for two reasons.

Whatever ... after 15 days it is safe to say 28 dead then, if the numbers are correct these people are not going to show-up suddenly.

First, it impossible to hide big numbers of dead...

Russia's been doing it for over 2 months now ... lovely satellite images of mass burials...

the blow on the ship was local ..,

I don't know what you mean by that ... it sank a vessel that size ... the damage was obvious on the images.

But another matter when you open your eyes wider, to
see big numbers of killed, and 28 is not big enough.

You remind me of Stalin's words ... a person killed is terrible, a million people killed is a statistic.

\%/@rd

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Hi, Ward Dossche!
I read your message from 29.04.2022 09:11

ak>> the blow on the ship was local ..,
WD> I don't know what you mean by that ... it sank a vessel that
WD> size ... the damage was obvious on the images.

A big military vessel, consists of isolated armoured compartments.
Sailors are like sitting in several tanks which standing next to each
other. When one tank blows up the people from other tanks can easily
stay alive. A big number of victims could have been if the ship sank
quickly, within minutes.

Bye, Ward!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello, alexander!

Friday April 29 2022 08:32, you wrote to me:

Yes, parents of dead sailors still can't get any information
about their sons. Officially only 1 sailor died, the rest are
"missing". Very cynical.

The military says about 27 sailors missed and 1 dead. I don't think it
is a lie for two reasons. First, it impossible to hide big numbers of

Our Ministry of defence even faked video with "alive" sailors - it used pre-disaster film and combined it with new footage.
How can you trust them? No way.

Those bastards are just pathetic.


Best regards,
dp.

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So, it looks like BBSes at least are a fairly reliable form of communication out of Russia. Go figure... Go BBSES! :)

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A big military vessel, consists of isolated armoured compartments.
Sailors are like sitting in several tanks which standing next to each other. When one tank blows up the people from other tanks can easily
stay alive.

The Moskva has .... ehr .... had .... only 50mm deck armour extending to the bow but not to the stern and only 50mm of side armour the length of the citadel. It was not a battleship and definitely poorly armoured. The armour was designed for classic gunnery. The citadel was not protected and there are ... ehr ...were ... no internal armoured compartments.

Its counter measures against low flying missiles were laughable and as such there are several design flaws. The more you read about that vessel, the more it becomes obvious it was a sitting duck when attacked..

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