• Google translate

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to All on Sat Feb 20 11:40:04 2021
    Google translate has come a long way since the early days, when it was totally laughable.

    In case you didn't know it, it's maintained by the users. And boy, have we managed to help it become surprisingly good.

    It is used all around us, not only on the site itself (translate.google.com) but almost everywhere -- at least if you are using Google Chrome as web browser.

    When you are reading e.g. an article on an English news site, you can right click and select "translate to (insert your language here)" and you get an almost perfect translation. At least I get one into Swedish (even though I prefer to read it in English).

    YMMV, maybe your countrymen haven't been so busy helping to correct the mistakes?

    Just a friendly tip...


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Björn Felten on Sat Feb 20 09:21:00 2021
    Hello Bjrn Felten!

    ** On Saturday 20.02.21 - 11:40, Bjrn Felten wrote to All:

    It is used all around us, not only on the site itself
    (translate.google.com) but almost everywhere -- at least
    if you are using Google Chrome as web browser.

    When you are reading e.g. an article on an English news
    site, you can right click and select "translate to
    (insert your language here)" and you get an almost
    perfect translation. At least I get one into Swedish
    (even though I prefer to read it in English).

    Is the right-click (anywhere?) only with Chrome?

    I have found the opposite of your observation. The whole website
    translation seems to be worse to non-existant.


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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to August Abolins on Sat Feb 20 15:33:55 2021
    Is the right-click (anywhere?) only with Chrome?

    Since it's Google who provides the service, all I know is that it works with Chrome. I have no idea if anyone else has signed up for the service.

    I have found the opposite of your observation. The whole website translation seems to be worse to non-existant.

    How may years ago was that?



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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Björn Felten on Sat Feb 20 09:44:00 2021
    Hello Bjrn Felten!

    ** On Saturday 20.02.21 - 15:33, Bjrn Felten wrote to August Abolins:

    I have found the opposite of your observation. The whole website
    translation seems to be worse to non-existant.

    How may years ago was that?

    I enjoyed using the translate (to english) of some sites from
    time to time. But since about 2 years now, the feature seems to
    be broken or less successful. So, maybe only the foreign 2
    english feature is degraded.


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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to August Abolins on Sat Feb 20 15:59:03 2021
    But since about 2 years now, the feature seems to
    be broken or less successful.

    So, that wasn't Google translate then -- as the subject was all about? As I said, it's now all but "broken or less successful".



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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.2 to Björn Felten on Sat Feb 20 11:07:08 2021
    But since about 2 years now, the feature seems to
    be broken or less successful.

    So, that wasn't Google translate then -- as the subject was all about? As I said, it's now all but "broken or less successful".


    When entering "translate <website>" in the google search bar, the results would look like a regular one but there would be an additional option "[Translate this site]" in the title area. Clicking that would load the original site, with "translate panel" across the top, and allow you to pick the resultant language you want. That does not work as well as it used to. That whole process seems very much Google.
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  • From Bjrn Felten@2:203/2 to August Abolins on Sat Feb 20 20:38:19 2021
    That does not work as well as it used to.

    Did you expect to get all the graphics too?

    Why don't you try it the way I recommended?




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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Björn Felten on Sat Feb 20 17:32:00 2021
    Hello Bjrn Felten!

    ** On Saturday 20.02.21 - 15:59, Bjrn Felten wrote to August Abolins:

    But since about 2 years now, the feature seems to
    be broken or less successful.

    So, that wasn't Google translate then -- as the subject was all about? As I said, it's now all but "broken or less successful".

    You *did* also mention:

    "It is used all around us, not only on the site itself
    (translate.google.com) but almost everywhere -- at least if
    you are using Google Chrome as web browser."

    The "almost anywhere" and "web browser" was my cue to talk about
    google's translations of websites. ;)



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  • From Nigel Reed@nelgin@endofthelinebbs.com.nospam to Björn Felten on Sun Feb 21 03:37:58 2021
    Bj?rn wrote:
    Google translate has come a long way since the early days, when it was totally laughable.

    In case you didn't know it, it's maintained by the users. And boy, have we managed to help it become surprisingly good.

    It is used all around us, not only on the site itself (translate.google.com) but almost everywhere -- at least if you are using Google Chrome as web browser.

    When you are reading e.g. an article on an English news site, you can right click and select "translate to (insert your language here)" and you get an almost perfect translation. At least I get one into Swedish (even though I prefer to read it in English).

    YMMV, maybe your countrymen haven't been so busy helping to correct the mistakes?

    I use the Opera browser and there is a plugin which will assist with translations. One of my favorite musicians is French so a lot of French and other European language articles pop up so Google Translate has made it much easier to read those articles.
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Sun Feb 21 13:30:46 2021
    Hello Birn,

    Google translate has come a long way since the early days, when it was totally laughable.

    It is still not quite ready for prime time. And doubtful it ever
    will be.

    In case you didn't know it, it's maintained by the users. And boy, have we managed to help it become surprisingly good.

    There are far too many nuances for any online translation to be
    truly effective.

    It is used all around us, not only on the site itself (translate.google.com)
    but almost everywhere -- at least if you are using Google Chrome as web browser.

    Not even English is a universal language. Trying to make all
    languages a universal language is an impossibility. The English
    tried to do it with Basic English without success. Germans tried
    to do it with Basic German without success. George Orwell had a
    bit of fun with this in his novel 1984. To think Google can do
    it by making all languages universal is total fantasy.

    When you are reading e.g. an article on an English news site, you can right
    click and select "translate to (insert your language here)" and you get an almost perfect translation. At least I get one into Swedish (even though I prefer to read it in English).

    An almost perfect translation? You have got to be kidding me.
    I have some magazines that have some articles in both English and
    Cajun French. All one has to do is type a paragraph of an article
    written in Cajun French and compare the Google translation into
    English or vice versa to find out how far off the mark the Google
    translation is.

    YMMV, maybe your countrymen haven't been so busy helping to correct the mistakes?

    Just a friendly tip...

    Still doesn't seem to work that well for Cajun French ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Sun Feb 21 14:53:28 2021
    Hello Bjrn,

    Google translate has come a long way since the early days, when it was totally laughable.

    From a Cajun point of view, google translate is still laughable.
    I should have provided some examples in my last message. My bad.
    So here are a few words on how to speak Cajun. Feel free to see
    how well google does with this short list -

    https://www.louisianatravel.com/articles/how-speak-cajun


    Like most other languages, no language is the same. Think about
    how many variants of the English language there are. French is no
    different. Cajun has more than French as it is spoken in Paris.
    Do keep that in mind.

    And then there is Y'at, as spoken in New Orleans. Totally different
    animal. Swedes would get completely lost in the Crescent City, which
    probably explains why so few of them can be found.

    --Lee

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  • From Daniel Path@2:371/52 to Björn Felten on Wed Feb 24 08:52:22 2021
    Hello Bjrn.

    20 Feb 21 11:40, you wrote to All:

    Google translate has come a long way since the early days, when it was totally laughable.

    some languages are ok, but for example hungarian is also laughable now as
    well. for complex languages (which english is not) is just not good.

    but i am using it daily as a dictionary.

    Daniel

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