• FidoGazette V18I1

    From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to All on Mon Jan 17 12:20:17 2022
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    A n A l t e r n a t i v e F i d o n e t N e w s l e t t e r

    Published by Sean Dennis (1:18/200) weekly on Mondays


    Table of Contents
    1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
    The FidoGazette: Phoenix From The Flames ................. 1
    2. ARTICLES ................................................. 3
    MakeNL under FreeBSD ..................................... 3
    3. NET HUMOR ................................................ 4
    Thought Of The Week ...................................... 4
    4. STATIC STUFF ............................................. 5
    BBS Lists ................................................ 5
    5. FIDOGAZETTE INFORMATION .................................. 13
    FGAZ 18-01 Page 1 17 Jan 2022


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    EDITORIAL
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    The FidoGazette: Phoenix From The Flames
    By Sean Dennis, 1:18/200

    Hello and welcome to the FidoGazette! I am Sean Dennis, the Gazette's
    founder and first editor. I started the FidoGazette in September 2007
    as an alternative to the FidoNews. I shut down the Gazette in 2008
    after I had a severe, life-altering car accident. Janis Kracht then
    started the FidoGazette back up and ran it until her recent retirement
    from Fidonet. I am taking the FidoGazette back over and hope to make
    it an active, enjoyable part of Fidonet and a Fidonetter's hobby.

    I see a lot of new faces in the FIDOGAZETTE echo so I should introduce
    myself. I have been on BBSes since 1983 and a member of Fidonet since
    1998 as a full node. I have been active in Fidonet since then. Some
    of the activities I've had since being a Fidonet member in Zone 1:

    - Former Region 11 Coordinator
    - Twice elected to FTSC
    - Moderator of several echoes; currently am moderator of COOKING,
    CLASSIC_COMPUTER, CHWARE, HOME_COOKING, RECIPES, HAM, MUFFIN,
    and TUB echoes; co-moderator of BBS_CARNIVAL
    - Am the coordinator for the CH-WARE and Ham Distribution System
    filebones

    I am also active in the BBS scene:

    - Sysop of Outpost BBS (1:18/200)
    - Author of Cheepware (open source BBS doors and sysop utilities)
    since 1998
    - Founder and ZC of The Micronet Information Network since September
    1, 2000
    - Member of the MBSE BBS Development Team; MBSE is an open source,
    "all-in-one" BBS package for GNU/Linux and FreeBSD
    - Founder and moderator of the BBSing 2.0 group on Facebook with
    over 1000 members

    It has been my pleasure to make many friends in the BBS scene over the
    past twenty-plus years and help sysops all over the world. It is my
    aim to continue this tradition with the FidoGazette to help bring Fido
    sysops together and make this a closer-knit community through the
    sharing of information and friendship.

    I am happy to have you all aboard with me. I look forward
    to your articles, comments, and suggestions.

    I want the FidoGazette to be a place where all are welcomed and the
    opinions and thoughts of all Fidonetters are taken into consideration.
    We can agree to disagree on some things, which is normal, but let's
    agree that the future and continual growth of Fidonet is of the utmost
    importance.

    FGAZ 18-01 Page 2 17 Jan 2022


    A final note: there are some in Fidonet, who are known for their
    histrionics and lying about others to make themselves look better,
    that are saying that the FidoGazette was founded as part of the "zone
    wars" in the late 90s. Nothing could be further from the truth. I
    started the FidoGazette because I thought I had a better idea. Those
    who speak against me are just jealous of me, that's all. <G>

    -- Sean Dennis
    FidoGazette Editor

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    FGAZ 18-01 Page 3 17 Jan 2022


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    ARTICLES
    =================================================================


    Compiling MakeNL under FreeBSD
    By Sean Dennis, 1:18/200

    MakeNL is easy to compile under FreeBSD. You'll need to install
    cmake first:

    # pkg install cmake

    Then get the MakeNL source code using git from:

    https://sourceforge.net/p/makenl/code/ci/master/tree/

    Go into the "makenl-code" directory and issue these commands:

    % cmake ./src
    % make

    The 'makenl' binary will be generated.

    That's it to compile the binary but to compile the PDF documentation
    you will need to add a -lot- of software if you do not have this
    installed:

    # pkg install tex-formats tex-dvipsk hs-pandoc

    You then run "makepdf.sh" in "makenl-code/docs" and "makenl.pdf" will
    be generated.

    If you don't want to go through all of that to make the PDF, contact
    me and I will send you that PDF.

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    FGAZ 18-01 Page 4 17 Jan 2022


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    NET HUMOR
    =================================================================


    Thought Of The Week
    By Sean Dennis, 1:18/200

    Am I getting older or is the supermarket finally playing great music?

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    FGAZ 18-01 Page 5 17 Jan 2022


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    STATIC STUFF
    =================================================================


    BBS Lists
    By Sean Dennis

    TELNET/DIALUP BBS GUIDES
    ------------------------
    If you're looking for a new BBS to try or are trying to find one from
    the past that may still be around, here's a few places to try:

    ** The BBS Corner's Telnet and Dial-Up BBS Guide
    Maintained by Dave Perrussel (1:275/89)
    http://www.telnetbbsguide.com

    Dave maintains one of the most up-to-date telnet and dial-up
    BBS lists in the world. There are over 450 BBSes listed on
    his site. You can get to the dial-up BBS guide by clicking
    on the "Dial-Up BBS Guide" link on the left side of the page
    under the "Other Useful Information" header.

    ** Synchronet BBS List
    Automatic maintenance
    http://www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html

    The Synchronet BBS List has the unique ability to check all of
    the nodes listed in it nightly to make sure they are actually
    responding if someone calls (note that it just means the port
    is open, not that there may be a BBS there). There are over
    160 active Synchronet-based BBSes listed and that number changes
    slightly each night.

    If you know of another -actively maintained- BBS list, please feel
    free to send me the information and I'll make sure it gets in here.

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    =================================================================
    FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
    =================================================================

    BBS Software List

    Updated 2022-01-17

    Maintained by Andrew Leary (1:320/219)
    Editors Emeritus: Robert Couture, Janis Kracht,
    Sean Dennis

    M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal
    P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility #=Info
    F=TIC/SRIF Processor
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    *=Software is available and may be registerable,
    but no longer supported or updated.

    @=Website is operating but is no longer updated.

    ?=Software's updating/support status is unknown.

    O=Software is open source.

    This list contains BBS-related software that is available
    for registration (not necessarily supported), open source
    software and actively developed/supported software by its
    author. Software listed may be available for DOS, Linux,
    OS/2 (eComStation), Windows (16 or 32 bit) and OSX.

    .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -.
    |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node|
    `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -'

    ==> FRONT-END/INTERNET MAILERS

    Argus |MI*? |http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products
    | | /argus/
    | | v3.210 on 2001-03-29

    BinkleyTerm XE |MO* |http://btxe.sourceforge.net
    | | 2.60XE Beta-XH7 on 2000-10-22

    BinkD |MI? |http://binkd.grumbler.org
    | | gul@gul.kiev.ua 2:463/68
    | | v.1.0.4
    | | v.1.1a-112 (alpha)
    | | ftp://cvs.happy.kiev.ua/pub/fidosoft
    | | /mailer/binkd/
    | |http://www.filegate.net/r50/aftnbinkd/

    D'Bridge |MTCPE|http://www.dbridgemailer.com
    |I | support@dbridgemailer.com 1:1/130
    Nick Andre | | v4.00 on 2022-01-15

    FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.datenbahn.dd-dns.de/
    | | cdp/fp_deluxe/
    | | v2.4 on 2003-09-26

    FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MITPC|http://www.defsol.se
    Definite Solutions |E | sales@defsol.se
    | | FD v2.33ml, FD/APX v1.15

    InterMail |MCPE |http://www.Intermail.net 1:106/201
    Dale Barnes | | dalebarnes42@majik.net
    | | IM v2.60 on 2017-08-28

    Husky Project |MTPUI|http://husky.sourceforge.net/
    |EO? | v1.9 RC2 on 2010-04-20

    Taurus |MI |http://www.fidotel.com/public/forums/
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    (based on Radius) |? | taurus/index.htm
    | | v5.0 on 2006-06-12
    | |

    T-Mail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru (Russian only)
    |? | v2608 on 2001-12-12

    AfterShock |MTEI |https://play.google.com/store/apps/
    Asvcorp | | details?id=com.asvcorp.aftershock
    Anatoly Vdovichev | | rudi.timmer@gmx.com 2:292/140
    Rudi Timmermans | | v1.6.7 on 2017-11-19

    HotDogEd |E |https://play.google.com/store/apps/
    Sergey Pushkin | | details?id=com.pushkin.hotdoged
    | | v2.13.5 on 2017-03-13 2:5020/2141

    HotDogEd FidoNet |MTI |https://play.google.com/store/apps/
    Provider | | details?id=com.pushkin.hotdoged.fido
    Sergey Pushkin | | v2.13.5 on 2017-03-13 2:5020/2141

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    ==> MAIL TOSSERS

    Crashmail II |TO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/
    | | crashmail.html

    FastEcho |T |http://www.softeq.de/old/Products
    | | /FastEcho/fastecho.html
    | | v1.46.1 on 2007-11-13
    | | Registration keys are free & available
    | | by request from the author

    Fidogate |TUI? |http://www.fidogate.org
    | | v4.4.10 on 2004-08-27
    | |

    FMail |TO |https://sourceforge.net/projects/fmail/
    | | v2.0.1.4 on 2017-04-21

    InterEcho |T |http://www.Intermail.net 1:220/60
    Dale Barnes | | dalebarnes42@majik.net
    | | IE 1.20 on 2017-08-28

    JetMail: JetSys |TU |
    (ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on 2000-01-01

    Squish |T* |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/
    | | v1.11R2 on 2009-01-01
    | | Source code available in Maximus BBS
    | | archive: http://maximus.sourceforge.net


    WWIVToss |T |http://www.weather-station.org/wwiv/
    | | v1.51 on 2015-05-23

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    ==> BBS SOFTWARE

    BBBS |BICTM|http://www.bbbs.net 2:222/2
    | | b@bbbs.net
    | | v4.01 on 2007-01-28

    EleBBS |BO*? |http://www.elebbs.com
    | | v0.10.RC1 on 2002-06-09

    Enthral BBS |B |http://enthralbbs.com
    Linux/BSD/OSX | | v0.429/Alpha on 2010-10-14
    | | Fidonet filebone SCENEENT

    Ezycom BBS |BT* |http://www.ezycom-bbs.com 3:690/682
    | | v2.15g2 on 2009-11-16

    GT Power |B |http://www.gtpowerbbs.com/
    | | v19.00

    Hermes II Project |BT |http://www.hermesbbs.com/
    Macintosh-based | | malyn@strangegizmo.com
    | | v3.5.10b3

    Maximus BBS |BO* |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/
    | | v3.03
    | | Source code available at:
    | | http://maximus.sourceforge.net/

    MBSE BBS |BMTFI|https://sourceforge.net 1:1/119
    |PO | /projects/mbsebbs
    | | ajleary@sourceforge.net
    | | v1.0.7.24 on 2022-01-06

    Meltdown BBS |UIO |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/
    | | v1.0b on 2004-04-26

    Mystic BBS |BMTCE|http://www.mysticbbs.com
    |I | v1.12 A46 on 2020-08-26

    NiKom BBS (Amiga) |BO |http://www.nikom.org
    | | v2.3.1 on 2017-07-01

    RemoteAccess BBS |B? |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120
    | | bfmorse@rapro.com
    | | v2.62.2SW

    Renegade BBS |B |http://renegadebbs.info 1:129/305
    | | v1.22/DOS on 2020-10-19

    Spitfire BBS |B? |http://www.buffalocrk.com/
    | | mdwoltz@buffalocrk.com
    | | v3.7 on 2010-01-01

    Synchronet BBS |BMTIO|http://www.synchro.net 1:103/705
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    | | v3.18b on 2020-09-20

    Telegard BBS |B* |
    | | v3.09g2-sp4/mL on 1999-12-19

    WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
    Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com
    Xpress: Santronics | |
    Software, Inc. | | v8.0 AUP 454.12 on 2021-05-14

    WWIV BBS |B |http://www.wwivbbs.org
    | | v5.6.1 on 2021-04-23

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    ==> TIC PROCESSORS/FILEFIX/SRIF

    Allfix |FIUT |http://www.allfix.com/ 1:218/720
    Ken Johnson | | v6.1.0 on 2019-02-02

    NEF/pk |F |http://nefpk.8m.com/
    | | v2.45b2 on 2000-03-05

    TinyTIC |FO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net
    | | /tinytic.html

    VIReq |FO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net
    | | /vireq.html

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    ==> BBS DOORS/UTILITIES

    Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net/cheepware.html
    Sean Dennis | | sysop@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200
    | | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE

    DDS (Doorware |D@ |http://www.doorgames.org
    Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org
    Ruth Argust | |

    Jibben Software |D* |http://www.jibbensoftware.com/
    | | bbs-door-games.cfm
    | | scott@jibben.com
    | | 1995-99 Release dates

    John Dailey Software |DU |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com

    Shining Star |D* |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
    | | nannette@shiningstar.net
    | | Doors are registerable via website

    Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
    Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com
    | | Tel: (404) 256-9518

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    T1ny's Software |DU |http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/tsoft/
    Shawn Highfield | | shighfield@gmail.com 1:229/452
    | | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE

    The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
    | | stanley@brainex.com
    | | 1994-99 Releases

    Trade Wars |D* |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
    | | jpritch@eisonline.com
    | | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002

    Vagabond Software |DU* |http://vbsoft.dhakota.org
    | | d@dhakota.org
    | | Last update: 2008-04-11

    WWIVEdit |DE |http://www.weather-station.org/wwiv/
    | | v3.0 on 2011-06-27

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    ==> POINT SOFTWARE

    APoint |PI |https://stargate.org.uk/apoint/
    | | v1.25 on 2001-12-12

    CrossPoint (XP) |P? |http://www.crosspoint.de (German only)
    | | pm@crosspoint.de
    | | v3.12d on 1999-12-22

    FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de (German only)
    | | support@freexp.de
    | | v3.42 on 2010-06-27

    FidoIP |PO |http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki
    | | /fidoip/
    | | v.1.0.5 on 2010-12

    OpenXP |PIO |https://sourceforge.net/projects
    | | /openxp5/ 2:240/2188.31
    | |http://openxp.uk Windows/Linux
    | | dev@openxp.uk English/German
    | | v5.0.42 on 2019-12-28

    WinPoint |PI |http://www.winpoint.org
    | | English/German/Spanish
    | |https://stargate.org.uk/winpoint/
    | | v5 (Beta Release) on 2017-03-17
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    ==> SYSOP MAIL EDITORS

    GoldEd+ |EO |http://golded-plus.sourceforge.net/
    | | v1.1.5 (Snapshot) on 2015-11-30
    | | NOTE: Unstable versions released often

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    SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de 2:2476/493
    | | v1.15 on 1999-12-15
    | | Website is in German and English

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    ==> INTERNET UTILITIES

    Ifmail |UIO |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net
    | | crosser@average.org

    Internet Rex |UI? |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
    | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806
    | | v2.29 on 2001-10-21

    JamNNTPd |UIO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net
    | | /jamnntpd.html
    | | 1:120/544

    Luckygate |UO | ftp://happy.kiev.ua/pub/fidosoft/gate
    | | /lgate
    | | gul@gul.kiev.ua

    MakeNL |UO |http://makenl.sourceforge.net
    | | v3.5.0 on 2019-05-06

    RNtrack |U |http://sourceforge.net/projects
    | | /ftrack-as 2:5080/102
    | |stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net
    | | v1.32 on 2011-04-29

    TransNet |UIO? |http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mressl/
    | | transnet/index.html
    | | transnet@ressl.com.ar
    | | v2.11 on 2007-09-13

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    ==> INFORMATIONAL WEBSITES/BBS LISTS

    Telnet/Dialup BBS |# |http://www.telnetbbsguide.com 1:275/89
    Guide | | Maintained by Dave Perrussel
    | | This is probably the most updated BBS
    | | list on the Internet for a general
    | | BBS list.

    Synchronet BBS List |# |http://www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html
    | | Maintained automatically
    | | This list is specifically for
    | | Synchronet-based BBS systems and is
    | | automatically updated nightly.

    The BBS Corner |# |http://www.bbscorner.com
    | | This website is more than just files,
    | | it's an encyclopedia of knowledge for
    | | BBS sysops and people who want to
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    | | become sysops. This site is run by
    | | the same person who does the Telnet
    | | BBS Guide.

    BBS Nexus |# |https://bbsnexus.com
    | | This website offers a searchable list
    | | of Telnet BBS's.

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    File Archives:

    http://archives.thebbs.org
    http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org (site is no longer maintained)
    http://www.simtel.net
    http://www.bbsfiles.com
    http://hobbes.nmsu.edu (OS/2 specific)
    http://www.filegate.net/ (FTP access via port 60721)
    http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/

    Note: Most also provide FTP access (use ftp instead of http above)

    The BBS Software List is published weekly in the FidoNews.

    If you have corrections, suggestions or additions to the information
    above, please contact Andrew Leary with your information via the
    FIDOGAZETTE echo or netmail at 1:320/219.

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    FIDOGAZETTE INFORMATION
    =================================================================

    FidoGazette is a weekly publication for the sysops and users of
    Fidonet.

    This newsletter has no association with the Fidonews and is
    edited and published by an independant editorial staff.

    Editor: Sean Dennis - 1:18/200 - sean@outpostbbs.net

    For submission information, please FREQ FGAZSUB from 1:18/200 or
    send an email to bbs@outpostbbs.net with the subject line of
    FREQ and the message body of FREQ FGAZSUB. If neither of those
    are workable for you, please send the editor a netmail and he
    will make sure you get what you need.

    Thank you for reading the FidoGazette!

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    --- GoldED/2 3.0.1
    * Origin: Outpost BBS Sysop Console (1:18/200)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jan 18 11:08:00 2022
    Hello Sean!

    *** Monday 17.01.22 at 12:20, Sean Dennis wrote to All:

    W e l c o m e t o t h e
    ___ _ _ ___ _ _
    | __| (_) __| | ___ / __| __ _ ___ ___ | |_ | |_ ___
    | _| | | / _` | / _ \ | (_ | / _` | |_ / / -_) | _| | _| / -_)
    |_| |_| \__,_| \___/ \___| \__,_| /__| \___| \__| \__| \___|

    A n A l t e r n a t i v e F i d o n e t N e w s l e t t e r

    Published by Sean Dennis (1:18/200) weekly on Mondays

    Thank you very much for this.

    [BIG snip]
    ==> POINT SOFTWARE

    APoint |PI |https://stargate.org.uk/apoint/
    | | v1.25 on 2001-12-12

    CrossPoint (XP) |P? |http://www.crosspoint.de (German only)
    | | pm@crosspoint.de
    | | v3.12d on 1999-12-22

    FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de (German only)
    | | support@freexp.de
    | | v3.42 on 2010-06-27

    FidoIP |PO |http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki
    | | /fidoip/
    | | v.1.0.5 on 2010-12

    OpenXP |PIO |https://sourceforge.net/projects
    | | /openxp5/
    2:240/2188.31 | |http://openxp.uk
    Windows/Linux | | dev@openxp.uk
    English/German | | v5.0.42 on 2019-12-28

    WinPoint |PI |http://www.winpoint.org
    | |
    English/German/Spanish | |https://stargate.org.uk/winpoint/ | | v5 (Beta Release) on 2017-03-17 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

    This section is well out of date and some of it is factually incorrect.
    How does one go about updating it and yes, I have read the submission
    guide but it doesn't seem to cover the software listings section.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Martin Foster on Tue Jan 18 13:59:56 2022
    This section is well out of date and some of it is factually incorrect.

    There are other inconsistencies in the software section ...

    Let's face it, Sean hashed this together just to have this and in a way he must be commended for doing so.

    The real job starts next week, in less than 6 calendar days because:

    Published by Sean Dennis (1:18/200) weekly on Mondays

    ... "Every Monday" ...

    He'd have a much better shot at it saying "around the first of the month" or "bi-monthly".

    But now "weekly" ? ? ... Every person with a brain understands that the present level of critical mass in Fido cannot sustain it ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jan 15 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Martin Foster on Tue Jan 18 10:10:42 2022
    Hello Martin,

    Tuesday January 18 2022 11:08, you wrote to me:

    Thank you very much for this.

    You're welcome; my pleasure. :)

    This section is well out of date and some of it is factually
    incorrect. How does one go about updating it and yes, I have read the submission guide but it doesn't seem to cover the software listings section.

    Please contact Andrew Leary, who maintains that list, directly via netmail at 1:320/119. We appreciate any updates you can provide.

    -- Sean

    ... Only the educated are free. - Epictetus
    --- GoldED/2 3.0.1
    * Origin: Outpost BBS Sysop Console (1:18/200)
  • From \x/ard@2:292/854 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jan 18 22:47:11 2022
    Hi Sean,

    Wouldn't want you to go without your daily dose of "\%/@rd" ... 8-)

    - Twice elected to FTSC

    As if that is an achievement ... my neighbour's cat can get himself elected into the FTSC ...

    But, of course ... it is a lie.

    I went through the archives of the FTSC-conference back to 2010 and you were elected once, not twice, in 2017 ... with more negative votes than anyone "ever" ...

    Your participation and input was limited to basically one-liners with a limited number of words ... nothing new or with substantial content was produced. We had to do with "I hear you". "Lurking from the back row", "Glad you're back Carol" "So sorry to hear that" ... general chit-chat. But FTSC-related business? Zero, nothing, nada ...

    When the 2019-election came up, you declined another term for undisclosed reasons.

    Since you lied, you have now got to go to your Bisshop and repent.

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jan 15 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jan 19 12:56:00 2022
    Hello Sean!

    *** Tuesday 18.01.22 at 10:10, Sean Dennis wrote to Martin Foster:

    [snip]
    This section is well out of date and some of it is factually
    incorrect. How does one go about updating it and yes, I have read the
    submission guide but it doesn't seem to cover the software listings
    section.

    Please contact Andrew Leary, who maintains that list, directly via
    netmail at 1:320/119.

    OK, will do, thanks.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Ward Dossche on Wed Jan 19 13:07:00 2022
    Hello Ward!

    *** Tuesday 18.01.22 at 13:59, Ward Dossche wrote to Martin Foster:

    This section is well out of date and some of it is factually incorrect.

    There are other inconsistencies in the software section ...

    Maybe there are but I'm only interested in the Point software section and besides, I neither have the time nor the inclination to plough through
    stuff which is of little to no interest. Perhaps *you* would like to take care of it? :-)

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Martin Foster on Wed Jan 19 19:39:39 2022
    Hello Martin!

    18 Jan 22 11:08, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

    ==> POINT SOFTWARE

    This section is well out of date and some of it is factually
    incorrect. How does one go about updating it and yes, I have read the submission guide but it doesn't seem to cover the software listings section.

    The end of the software listing has instructions for updates, but you can netmail them to me at the address below...

    Regards,

    Andrew

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Andrew Leary on Thu Jan 20 11:45:00 2022
    Hello Andrew!

    *** Wednesday 19.01.22 at 19:39, Andrew Leary wrote to Martin Foster:

    ==> POINT SOFTWARE

    This section is well out of date and some of it is factually
    incorrect. How does one go about updating it and yes, I have read the
    submission guide but it doesn't seem to cover the software listings
    section.

    The end of the software listing has instructions for updates, but you can netmail them to me at the address below...

    Ups, so it has, hadn't seen those, sorry.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Andrew Leary on Fri Jan 21 10:32:00 2022
    Hello Andrew!

    *** Wednesday 19.01.22 at 19:39, Andrew Leary wrote to Martin Foster:

    ==> POINT SOFTWARE

    This section is well out of date and some of it is factually
    incorrect. How does one go about updating it and yes, I have read the
    submission guide but it doesn't seem to cover the software listings
    section.

    The end of the software listing has instructions for updates, but you can netmail them to me at the address below...

    I've updated the Point Software section but I've had to increase the width
    of the right-hand column to accomodate all the relevant information *and*
    to keep it legible. In so doing, the columns don't line up with the
    columns above the Point Software section(obviously). Would you like me to submit the update or not? I'm not fussed either way.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Martin Foster on Fri Jan 21 05:47:41 2022
    Hello Martin!

    21 Jan 22 10:32, you wrote to me:

    I've updated the Point Software section but I've had to increase the
    width of the right-hand column to accomodate all the relevant
    information *and* to keep it legible. In so doing, the columns don't
    line up with the columns above the Point Software section(obviously). Would you like me to submit the update or not? I'm not fussed either
    way.

    Send it to me via NetMail and I'll figure something out. Increasing the width isn't really an option, as the width was deliberately set at what is needed for automated submission to FidoGazette.

    Andrew

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Martin Foster on Fri Jan 21 16:54:04 2022
    Martin Foster wrote to Andrew Leary <=-

    I've updated the Point Software section but I've had to increase the
    width of the right-hand column to accomodate all the relevant
    information *and* to keep it legible. In so doing, the columns don't
    line up with the columns above the Point Software section(obviously). Would you like me to submit the update or not? I'm not fussed either
    way.

    If the column width is over 70, I will manually adjust it to 70 due to the ancient (1989) software that is used to create both the FidoGazette and the FidoNews.

    -- Sean

    ... Any wire cut to specified length will be too short.
    ___ MultiMail/FreeBSD v0.52
    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: Outpost BBS (1:18/200)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Sean Dennis on Fri Jan 21 23:31:44 2022
    Some more research ...

    - Former Region 11 Coordinator

    ... for a whopping 2 months ... 20 years ago ... what an achievement.

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jan 20 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Sean Dennis on Sat Jan 22 09:16:00 2022
    Hello Sean!

    *** Friday 21.01.22 at 16:54, Sean Dennis wrote to Martin Foster:

    I've updated the Point Software section but I've had to increase the
    width of the right-hand column to accomodate all the relevant
    information *and* to keep it legible. In so doing, the columns don't
    line up with the columns above the Point Software section(obviously).
    Would you like me to submit the update or not? I'm not fussed either
    way.

    If the column width is over 70, I will manually adjust it to 70 due to
    the ancient (1989) software that is used to create both the FidoGazette and the FidoNews.

    Either I worded my post badly or you may have misunderstood what I said.

    The width of the "table" remains the same as it was before(69 chars). I've increased the width of the right-hand "table" column to accomodate all the relevant information *and* to keep it legible. To achieve this, I've had
    to decrease the width of the left-hand "table" column accordingly, like
    this .....

    Before:
    +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

    After:
    +- - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

    Obviously, the "table" columns will be out of alignment with all the other software sections above the Point software section.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Sat Jan 22 05:02:32 2022

    On 2022 Jan 21 23:31:44, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

    Some more research ...

    - Former Region 11 Coordinator

    ... for a whopping 2 months ... 20 years ago ... what an achievement.

    so what? he was still an RC...

    the tag line seems appropriate...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"

    ... "If you keep picking nits, you may find that you're infested with lice." ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Sat Jan 22 13:01:06 2022
    - Former Region 11 Coordinator

    ... for a whopping 2 months ... 20 years ago ... what an
    achievement.

    so what? he was still an RC...

    I was ZEC like until 1994 ... for up to 4 years or something (could've been 2 too) 28 years ago. I'm not bragging about it ...

    the tag line seems appropriate...

    Which tag line ?

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jan 20 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Sat Jan 22 08:01:18 2022

    On 2022 Jan 22 13:01:06, you wrote to me:

    the tag line seems appropriate...

    Which tag line ?

    tag lines start with three dots... my posts carry only one tag line at a time in them ;)

    this random tag line also seem appropriate :lol:

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... Your reasoning is excellent. It's your basic assumptions that are wrong. ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Sat Jan 22 16:22:08 2022
    Which tag line ?

    tag lines start with three dots... my posts carry only one tag line at a time in them ;)

    You would nearly make the one whose name we cannot mention ... jealous.

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jan 20 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Martin Foster on Sat Jan 22 12:41:50 2022
    Hello Martin,

    Saturday January 22 2022 09:16, you wrote to me:

    Either I worded my post badly or you may have misunderstood what I
    said.

    I completely misunderstood it.

    Obviously, the "table" columns will be out of alignment with all the
    other software sections above the Point software section.

    Thank you for doing that!

    -- Sean

    ... The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.
    --- GoldED/2 3.0.1
    * Origin: Outpost BBS Sysop Console (1:18/200)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to Sean Dennis on Tue Mar 1 14:03:00 2022
    Sean,

    W e l c o m e t o t h e
    ___ _ _ ___ _ _
    | __| (_) __| | ___ / __| __ _ ___ ___ | |_ | |_ ___
    | _| | | / _` | / _ \ | (_ | / _` | |_ / / -_) | _| | _| / -_)
    |_| |_| \__,_| \___/ \___| \__,_| /__| \___| \__| \__| \___|

    A n A l t e r n a t i v e F i d o n e t N e w s l e t t e r

    Nice logo.

    Daryl

    ... Best file compression around: "DEL ." = 100% compression.
    === MultiMail/Win v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32
    * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas (1:2320/33)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Daryl Stout on Wed Mar 2 13:40:57 2022
    Daryl Stout wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Nice logo.

    Thanks! I used an online version of Figlet for that.

    -- Sean

    ... Pardon me, but would you have any Blue Poupon?
    --- MultiMail/Linux
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to Sean Dennis on Thu Mar 3 00:42:00 2022
    Sean,

    Nice logo.

    Thanks! I used an online version of Figlet for that.

    Better than a fig leaf or a fig newton. <G>

    Daryl

    ... Why do old men wear their pants higher than younger men?
    === MultiMail/Win v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.15-Win32
    * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas (1:2320/33)