Hi, all!

How can you put on a turned inside out T-shirt correctly without turning it inside in beforehand?

The answer: uoy dluohs tup no ti eciwt

;-)

Bye, all!
Alexander Koryagin

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From Alexander Koryagin To All

Hi, all!
How can you put on a turned inside out T-shirt correctly without turning
it inside in beforehand?
The answer: uoy dluohs tup no ti eciwt
;-)

(-:


Tommi

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Hi! Alexander,

On 09/13/2019 11:27 PM, you wrote to All:

How can you put on a turned inside out T-shirt correctly without turning it inside in beforehand?

The answer: uoy dluohs tup no ti eciwt

;-)

Try: "uoy dluohs tup ti no eciwt". Much better. 8-)

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi, Paul Quinn : Alexander Koryagin!
I read your message from 14.09.2019 01:00

How can you put on a turned inside out T-shirt correctly without
turning it inside in beforehand?
The answer: uoy dluohs tup no ti eciwt

Try: "uoy dluohs tup ti no eciwt". Much better.

I believe I knew it once. :)

Bye, Paul!
Alexander Koryagin
english_tutor 2019

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Hi, Paul Quinn!
I read your message from 14.09.2019 01:00

How can you put on a turned inside out T-shirt correctly without
turning it inside in beforehand?
The answer: uoy dluohs tup no ti eciwt
;-)

Try: "uoy dluohs tup ti no eciwt". Much better. 8-)

What about the first sentence (the question)? Should I put "on" behind "T-Shirt"? It seems in this case "on" will be very far from "put".

Bye, Paul!
Alexander Koryagin
english_tutor 2019

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Hi! Alexander,

On 16 Sep 19 13:42, you wrote to me:

How can you put on a turned inside out T-shirt correctly without
turning it inside in beforehand?
The answer: uoy dluohs tup no ti eciwt
;-)

Try: "uoy dluohs tup ti no eciwt". Much better. 8-)

What about the first sentence (the question)? Should I put "on" behind "T-Shirt"? It seems in this case "on" will be very far from "put".

It's quite correct as is. Anything else ends up being quite convoluted,

On a matter of (my) personal style I might have used "inside-out" and "inside-in", as I think it makes the _state_ of the garment more apprent. It's
kind of a mental 'N.B' (Latin) ... "uh-oh, it's not just a string of words; this has meaning on which the question may depend". :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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On 2019 Sep 16 13:42:44, you wrote to Paul Quinn:

How can you put on a turned inside out T-shirt correctly without
turning it inside in beforehand?
The answer: uoy dluohs tup no ti eciwt
;-)

Try: "uoy dluohs tup ti no eciwt". Much better. 8-)

What about the first sentence (the question)? Should I put "on" behind "T-Shirt"? It seems in this case "on" will be very far from "put".

either way is fine...

here're four more ways to write your question ;)


how can you put an inside-out t-shirt on correctly without turning it right-side out first?

how can you put on an inside-out t-shirt correctly without turning it right-side out first?

how can you correctly put an inside-out t-shirt on without turning it right-side out first?

how can you correctly put on an inside-out t-shirt without turning it right-side out first?



what do you think of me now? :P

)\/(ark

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them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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On 2019 Sep 16 22:07:36, you wrote to Alexander Koryagin:

On a matter of (my) personal style I might have used "inside-out" and "inside-in", as I think it makes the _state_ of the garment more apprent.

along the lines of "why do we drive on parkways and park on driveways", why do we commonly say "inside-out" and rarely say "outside-in"? ;) O:)

i kinda think it has something to do with alphabetical ordering...

)\/(ark

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them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
... Yes, I drink wine from a box but I'd rather drink by the suitcase.
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Hi! mark,

On 17 Sep 19 06:54, you wrote to me:

along the lines of "why do we drive on parkways and park on
driveways", why do we commonly say "inside-out" and rarely say "outside-in"? ;) O:)

I kinda liked your 'right-side' thing but I would've used 'rightside' had I thought of it. ;)

i kinda think it has something to do with alphabetical ordering...

Oh no, my head hurts if I try that sort of analysis. Oh, the pain... [sfx: channeling Dr Smith, Lost In Space]

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi, Mark Lewis!
I read your message from 16.09.2019 14:45

How can you put on a turned inside out T-shirt correctly without
turning it inside in beforehand? The answer: uoy dluohs tup no
ti eciwt ;-)

Try: "uoy dluohs tup ti no eciwt". Much better. 8-)

What about the first sentence (the question)? Should I put "on"
behind "T-Shirt"? It seems in this case "on" will be very far
from "put".

either way is fine...

here're four more ways to write your question ;)

how can you put an inside-out t-shirt on correctly without turning
it right-side out first?

how can you put on an inside-out t-shirt correctly without turning
it right-side out first?

how can you correctly put an inside-out t-shirt on without turning
it right-side out first?

how can you correctly put on an inside-out t-shirt without turning
it right-side out first?

what do you think of me now?: P

I feel now as a donkey in front of four haystacks. ;=)

Bye, Mark!
Alexander Koryagin
english_tutor 2019

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On 2019 Sep 18 14:03:42, you wrote to me:

what do you think of me now?: P

I feel now as a donkey in front of four haystacks. ;=)

kinda like me when i go to a resturaunt and they have more than two pages in their menus... too many choices so i sit for sometimes over an hour trying to decide while having a beverage or two and finally just end up paying for the beverages and having a bowl of popcorn at home... popcorn is one of my staples,
these days...

)\/(ark

Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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Alexander Koryagin:

How can you put on a turned inside out T-shirt correctly
without turning it inside in beforehand?

The answer: uoy dluohs tup no ti eciwt

This put me in the mind of a beautiful riddle by Martin
Gardner, in which a doctor must operate three patients using
only two pair of gloves. Any of the four people may be
infected with a virus that transfers at direct contact. The
operation must be performed with both hands, and all the
uninfected must remain so.

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Hi, Anton Shepelev : Alexander Koryagin!
I read your message from 21.09.2019 00:49

How can you put on a turned inside out T-shirt correctly without
turning it inside in beforehand?

The answer: uoy dluohs tup no ti eciwt

This put me in the mind of a beautiful riddle by Martin Gardner, in
which a doctor must operate three patients using only two pair of
gloves. Any of the four people may be infected with a virus that
transfers at direct contact. The operation must be performed with
both hands, and all the uninfected must remain so.

A new version? I heard there were three doctors and one patient. :) http://tinyurl.com/y53anmeo
page 5

Bye, Anton!
Alexander Koryagin
english_tutor 2019

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Alexander Koryagin to Anton Shepelev:

This put me in the mind of a beautiful riddle by Martin
Gardner, in which a doctor must operate three patients
using only two pair of gloves. Any of the four people
may be infected with a virus that transfers at direct
contact. The operation must be performed with both
hands, and all the uninfected must remain so.

This put me in the mind of a beautiful riddle by Martin
Gardner, in which a doctor must operate three patients
using only two pair of gloves. Any of the four people
may be infected with a virus that transfers at direct
contact. The operation must be performed with both
hands, and all the uninfected must remain so.

A new version? I heard there were three doctors and one
patient. :)
http://tinyurl.com/y53anmeo
page 5

This one is topologically identical and amenable to the same
solution.

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)\/(ark Lewis:

along the lines of "why do we drive on parkways and park
on driveways", why do we commonly say "inside-out" and
rarely say "outside-in"? ;) O:)

That would be putting it heels over head...

i kinda think it has something to do with alphabetical
ordering...

Hardly. Is rather mere euphony.

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Hi, Paul! Recently you wrote in a message to mark lewis:

along the lines of "why do we drive on parkways and
park on driveways", why do we commonly say "inside-out"
and rarely say "outside-in"? ;) O:)

I kinda liked your 'right-side' thing but I would've
used 'rightside' had I thought of it. ;)

Ahh. You suggested hyphenating "inside out", and my CANADIAN OXFORD DICTIONARY agreed with you that the term should be hyphenated when used as an attributive adjective. Mark followed the same pattern in his examples. IMHO your initial reaction was quite correct... so why do things differently here?

i kinda think it has something to do with alphabetical
ordering...

Oh no, my head hurts if I try that sort of analysis. Oh,
the pain... [sfx: channeling Dr Smith, Lost In Space]

You may not need to if, as Anton remarked, you're aware of the sound when various words are used together. I guess alphabetical order is probably the default in many cases, but native speakers also use expressions like:

hurdy-gurdy
itsy-bitsy
goods & chattels
lock, stock, and barrel
pomp & circumstance

... at least 4/5 of which were in common use before you & I were born. ;-)




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Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to mark lewis:

how can you put an inside-out t-shirt on correctly without turning
it right-side out first?

how can you put on an inside-out t-shirt correctly without turning
it right-side out first?

how can you correctly put an inside-out t-shirt on without turning
it right-side out first?

how can you correctly put on an inside-out t-shirt without turning
it right-side out first?

what do you think of me now?: P

I feel now as a donkey in front of four haystacks. ;=)

You asked about the placement of an adverb, and Mark did what I would
have done by expanding on the concept... [chuckle].

The choice may be easier if you realize he is offering examples based
on the placement of two adverbs and adding the information that native speakers
often prefer to say "right-side out" because that is how they were taught. :-Q




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Hi, Anton! Recently you wrote in a message to mark lewis:

why do we commonly say "inside-out" and
rarely say "outside-in"? ;) O:)

That would be putting it heels over head...

... as in "downside up"? :-))




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