• msconfig

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    I tried to remone a startup program with msconfig and XP told me I had to
    be administrator to do so. The system was a gift so I don't know which
    choice was administrator. One is guest, the other two are the previous
    owner's and his wife. I am using the previous owner choice when the system starts.

    Now what? His wife? Doubtful. Can I make myself administrator? I need to remove that app and many others.

    TIA


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    From: Shadow <Sh@dow.br>
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    Subject: Re: msconfig
    Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:40:27 -0200
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    On 14 Nov 2017 16:45:01 GMT, KenK <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

    I tried to remone a startup program with msconfig and XP told me I had to
    be administrator to do so. The system was a gift so I don't know which >choice was administrator. One is guest, the other two are the previous >owner's and his wife. I am using the previous owner choice when the system >starts.

    Now what? His wife? Doubtful. Can I make myself administrator? I need to >remove that app and many others.

    http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-tips-to-help-you-reset-a-forgotten-windows-xp-pa ssword/

    If you're trying to remove Norton Security (and maybe similar
    software), you might need to fiddle with the registry.
    But you didn't mention which program you were trying to
    remove...
    []'s
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    On 14 Nov 2017 16:45:01 GMT, KenK <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

    I tried to remone a startup program with msconfig and XP told me I had to
    be administrator to do so. The system was a gift so I don't know which >choice was administrator. One is guest, the other two are the previous >owner's and his wife. I am using the previous owner choice when the system >starts.

    Now what? His wife? Doubtful. Can I make myself administrator? I need to >remove that app and many others.

    TIA

    I get that message all the time and I am the administrator. It goes
    ahead and does the change after I ignore the message.
    You can go look at "users" and see what your authority is.
    There are also crack disks out there that will lever up all of the
    passwords. I use them when I get a "gift" without any idea of what the administrator PW is. I may have a disk image here somewhere if you
    can't find one.
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  • From nospam@needed.invalid@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:16:21 2019
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    From: Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
    Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
    Subject: Re: msconfig
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    KenK wrote:
    I tried to remone a startup program with msconfig and XP told me I had to
    be administrator to do so. The system was a gift so I don't know which choice was administrator. One is guest, the other two are the previous owner's and his wife. I am using the previous owner choice when the system starts.

    Now what? His wife? Doubtful. Can I make myself administrator? I need to remove that app and many others.

    TIA

    Here's a picture of some WinXP panels.

    https://s8.postimg.org/86z8li9zp/accounts.gif

    The one on the left, is in Control Panels.

    The one on the right, can be reached via

    control userpasswords2

    The word "control" refers to control.exe,
    and when issued by itself, it opens the
    Control Panels.

    control

    Giving control.exe an argument, causes it to
    open that particular panel.

    Not all accounts on a computer are full accounts.
    Some have no home directory. An account called
    "Updatus" or similar, might belong to some NVidia
    driver software. If you were thinking all the
    accounts in there were created by humans, some
    are side effects of software.

    Paul
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    From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk>
    Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
    Subject: Re: msconfig
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    In message <oug1gd$u8v$1@dont-email.me>, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
    writes:
    []
    control userpasswords2
    []
    Not all accounts on a computer are full accounts.
    Some have no home directory. An account called
    "Updatus" or similar, might belong to some NVidia
    driver software. If you were thinking all the
    accounts in there were created by humans, some
    are side effects of software.

    Paul

    I have "Administrator", "ASPNET", and "me"; Administrator and me are in "Administrators" group, and ASPNET is in "Users" group. Any idea what
    ASPNET might be?
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    From: Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
    Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
    Subject: Re: msconfig
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    J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    In message <oug1gd$u8v$1@dont-email.me>, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes:
    []
    control userpasswords2
    []
    Not all accounts on a computer are full accounts.
    Some have no home directory. An account called
    "Updatus" or similar, might belong to some NVidia
    driver software. If you were thinking all the
    accounts in there were created by humans, some
    are side effects of software.

    Paul

    I have "Administrator", "ASPNET", and "me"; Administrator and me are in "Administrators" group, and ASPNET is in "Users" group. Any idea what
    ASPNET might be?

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/555299#!en-us%2Fhelp%2F555299

    "ASP.NET Machine Account is created when the [.net] 1.1
    is installed onto a Windows XP machine."

    "If one works with asp.net development work then he/she
    must keep that account, otherwise ASP.net projects will
    no longer function correctly." [Oh,my]

    It's something most people won't be using.

    Paul
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    Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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    In message <oug9he$mki$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
    writes:
    J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    []
    I have "Administrator", "ASPNET", and "me"; Administrator and me are
    in "Administrators" group, and ASPNET is in "Users" group. Any idea
    what ASPNET might be?

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/555299#!en-us%2Fhelp%2F555299

    "ASP.NET Machine Account is created when the [.net] 1.1
    is installed onto a Windows XP machine."

    "If one works with asp.net development work then he/she
    must keep that account, otherwise ASP.net projects will
    no longer function correctly." [Oh,my]

    It's something most people won't be using.

    Paul

    Thanks. Is it likely to do any _harm_ if I just ignore it?
    --
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    From: Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
    Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
    Subject: Re: msconfig
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    J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    In message <oug9he$mki$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes:
    J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    []
    I have "Administrator", "ASPNET", and "me"; Administrator and me are
    in "Administrators" group, and ASPNET is in "Users" group. Any idea
    what ASPNET might be?

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/555299#!en-us%2Fhelp%2F555299

    "ASP.NET Machine Account is created when the [.net] 1.1
    is installed onto a Windows XP machine."

    "If one works with asp.net development work then he/she
    must keep that account, otherwise ASP.net projects will
    no longer function correctly." [Oh,my]

    It's something most people won't be using.

    Paul

    Thanks. Is it likely to do any _harm_ if I just ignore it?

    It's supposed to be a limited account. I suspect it might be used,
    if your machine was running Microsoft IIS web server (a Windows Features
    option you can turn on in some flavor of WinXP). Then, you'd be
    writing some sort of code to communicate with a web browser
    on another machine.

    "How To: Use the Network Service Account to Access Resources in ASP.NET"

    https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff647402.aspx

    And it doesn't appear to be related to the Framework Assistant
    that got plunked into Firefox by some .net install. I see ClickOnce
    related questions with respect to this, and nothing else.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/963707/how-to-remove-the-net-framework -assistant-for-firefox#!en-us%2Fhelp%2F963707%2Fhow-to-remove-the-net-framework -assistant-for-firefox

    And this gives a hint how asp.net works. It's a server side
    technology.

    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21462869/does-client-machine-need-net-insta lled-to-run-asp-net-web-application

    ".Net framework is required for machines [servers]
    hosting ASP.Net application.

    Client only gets HTML/Javascript/CSS, Stuff which
    client's browser can handle.

    No server side code is executed on client."

    That suggests the asp.net account (a limited account) is
    only useful if you're a web monkey working on the server,
    and you're trying to get your asp.net server code to
    write to the Event Log and so on. That's when the code
    uses that account to access the machine. It suggests, for the
    "average Facebook user" (content consumer), you could
    delete that account and never know the difference.

    Not that I'm about to try.

    The account is probably as dangerous as the Guest account.
    By being a separate account, it allows a savvy user to
    modify things for that specific account and situation.
    And not hijack some other account for that purpose.

    Paul
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    From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk>
    Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
    Subject: Re: msconfig
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    In message <ougjt4$ko5$1@dont-email.me>, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
    writes:
    J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    In message <oug9he$mki$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Paul
    <nospam@needed.invalid> writes:
    J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    []
    I have "Administrator", "ASPNET", and "me"; Administrator and me
    are in "Administrators" group, and ASPNET is in "Users" group. Any >>>>idea what ASPNET might be?
    []
    Thanks. Is it likely to do any _harm_ if I just ignore it?

    It's supposed to be a limited account. I suspect it might be used,
    if your machine was running Microsoft IIS web server (a Windows Features >option you can turn on in some flavor of WinXP). Then, you'd be
    writing some sort of code to communicate with a web browser
    on another machine.

    I'm pretty certain I'm not!
    [Excellent middle section - over my head as usual! - snipped]
    The account is probably as dangerous as the Guest account.
    By being a separate account, it allows a savvy user to
    modify things for that specific account and situation.
    And not hijack some other account for that purpose.

    Paul

    I'll leave well alone. No-one is going to have access to the machine to
    log in as that account, and I don't think it can be logged in to
    remotely, can it?
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    I reckon in a few years we'll have GoogleBum. You'll type in someone's name
    and it will show you what their bum looks like. Even if they've never posted a nude picture, it will reconstruct their bum from bits of their face and leg
    and whatever else they can find. - Charlie Brooker, RT 2014/12/13-19
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