Quoting Ruth Haffly to Shawn Highfield <=-
We have had the heat on a few days already.
Hurricane Ian
We have had the heat on a few days already.
While Shawn is seeing unseasonably cold weather mine is way hotter
than normal. We set numerous heat records in the NWT almost daily throughout August and Sept. One day last week we hit 70 F breaking
the old record of 62 when the normal average is just 43 F.
Here's the latest one: we had a frost free September for the first
time in recorded history!
But that in itself is just weather. However we have also set over
300 out of 365 daily high records in the past 40 years but more than
300 out of 365 lows were recorded in the prior 48 years when the
first weather station was built here in 1944. And our permafrost is melting to the point that buildings are collapsing.
Hurricane Ian
One of your five worst ones ever. I see in today's breaking news that although it weakened down to a storm it regained strength over the
open water and landed again as a full blown hurricane after all.
By the time Atlantic hurricanes get as far north as the Canadian Maritimes, they have usually weakened down to a mere "ex-tropical
storm" with, at worst, gale force winds. They generally get about
one a year that does any damage. Force 1 hurricanes are a once a
decade event and Force 2 hurricanes happen about once a century.
Fiona hit Nova Scotia and then Newfoundland as a Force 2. Why did it
pick up moisture and regained stength over the open water? Because
the ocean water is warmer than it used to be.
To bring this back to food, the Colorado River irrigates millions of
acres of farmland in Arizona and California. And Lake Mead is drying
up!
"Water levels this summer were at their lowest since the of Hoover
Dam was built in 1937. Lake Mead has been undergoing a downward
trend for a couple of decades. But its water levels have fallen precipitously over the last two years. The reservoir is now at just
27% of capacity." - Patricia Aaron, Bureau of Reclamation, on NBC
News.
Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-
our permafrost is melting to the point that buildings are
collapsing.
A re-building boom in your future?
Lake Mead is drying up!
It'll be interesting to follow the weather out there this
winter, see if the reservoirs replenish.
Hurricane Ian
One of your five worst ones ever. I see in today's breaking news that although it weakened down to a storm it regained
strength over the open water and landed again as a full blown hurricane after all.
We got 2.6" of rain from Friday morning to Saturday afternoon. We
actually got off easy in this area, this time. We had a power flicker
but it didn't go out. We've got some canned goods and other non
perishable foodstuffs that could have been loaded into the camper
quickly, had we had to evacuate but didn't, this time. Hurricane season ends at the end of November so we've still got a couple of months to go.
our permafrost is melting to the point that buildings are
collapsing.
A re-building boom in your future?
Not a boom, just a hideous expense. We tightened our building
codes in the 1980s when the problem first became apparent but
many older buildings need new foundations, or get moved to new
ground or demolished and replaced.
Lake Mead is drying up!
It'll be interesting to follow the weather out there this
winter, see if the reservoirs replenish.
You're not going to see 20 years of depletion countered in a single winter, especially given current trends. If farmers are rationed on
irrigation water in the future to ensure the cities have drinking
water the results will be obvious in grocery store prices for
produce around the whole continent.
The last and perhaps the tastiest recipe I pulled up looking for
beans with leeks in them:
Title: Fabada Asturiana (Bean Stew with Sausages From Asturias)
Categories: Spanish, Beans, Stews, Sausages, Salsa
Yield: 6 Servings
Charles Blackburn wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-
Re: weather and climate
By: Ruth Haffly to JIM WELLER on Sun Oct 02 2022 20:23:30
not sure why this is in the cooking echo, but whatever :D
Read 'em and weep. The "prime directive" from the echo rules:Hurricane Ian\
1. Topics may be broad but the common theme shall remain cooking. This
may include recipes, appliances, utensils, cookbooks, food history,
One of your five worst ones ever. I see in today's breaking news that <CUT>
yup and i have to go up to SC next week for work because of it lol
We got 2.6" of rain from Friday morning to Saturday afternoon. We
actually got off easy in this area, this time. We had a power flicker
but it didn't go out. We've got some canned goods and other non
perishable foodstuffs that could have been loaded into the camper
quickly, had we had to evacuate but didn't, this time. Hurricane season ends at the end of November so we've still
got a couple of months to go.
And there's your qualifier. Some of us also post a recipe (called an "ontopicsizer") if the text is sketchy.
unfortunately now, everyone wants things fixed yesterday - as if iWelcome to our world. Jump right in and join a conversation. Or ask a
didnt have enough work to do lol..
food related question.
To get food related. What do you like to cook or eat?
Charles Blackburn wrote to Dave Drum <=-
not sure why this is in the cooking echo, but whatever :D
Hurricane Ian\
Read 'em and weep. The "prime directive" from the echo rules:
1. Topics may be broad but the common theme shall remain cooking. This
may include recipes, appliances, utensils, cookbooks, food history,
dang
One of your five worst ones ever. I see in today's breaking news that
yup and i have to go up to SC next week for work because of it lol.
We got 2.6" of rain from Friday morning to Saturday afternoon. We
actually got off easy in this area, this time. We had a power flicker
but it didn't go out. We've got some canned goods and other non
perishable foodstuffs that could have been loaded into the camper
quickly, had we had to evacuate but didn't, this time. Hurricane
season ends at the end of November so we've still got a couple of
months to go.
yea we had power up until the day after, lost it for most of the day
and got it back about 4am the next morning.. the flooding here though
was the worst bit... couldnt get out the drive for a couple of days.
And there's your qualifier. Some of us also post a recipe (called
an "ontopicsizer") if the text is sketchy.
:)
unfortunately now, everyone wants things fixed yesterday - as if i
didnt have enough work to do lol..
Welcome to our world. Jump right in and join a conversation. Or ask a
food related question.
To get food related. What do you like to cook or eat?
hehe.. ok... challenge accepted....
personally I LOVE to make a curry, of course sometimes i go for the Jar stuff cus i feel lazy, but i do make it from scratch every now and
again.
but to "topicsizer" it.
one thing i do love to do is grill fish in the pan... get a hot ridged
pan ... olive oil , drop the fish in skin down put a bit of olive oil
on top, wait a little, flip over, wait a lil bit and then serve it on a bed of mashed taters. (usually the garlic premade mash from walmart - again cus im lazy).
sprinkle some greens over the top and voila..
i have learnt to cook a ton of stuff the past couple weeks as the
missus had a "links" device (think lap band but the input not the
output of the stomach) put around her "tummy tunnel" so she can only
eat soft things for a couple months like mash and so on and slowly work her way up. she had that done as she sufferred badly with heartburn and stuff like that.
now she gets to eat fish, minced meat and stuff like that so i get to
make her all sorts of different things now. but nothing spicy and unfortunately, i'm the one that has to eat all the steaks :D
Re: weather and climate
By: Ruth Haffly to JIM WELLER on Sun Oct 02 2022 20:23:30
not sure why this is in the cooking echo, but whatever :D
Hurricane Ian
One of your five worst ones ever. I see in today's breaking news that although it weakened down to a storm it regained
strength over the open water and landed again as a full blown hurricane after all.
yup and i have to go up to SC next week for work because of it lol
We got 2.6" of rain from Friday morning to Saturday afternoon. We
actually got off easy in this area, this time. We had a power flicker
but it didn't go out. We've got some canned goods and other non
perishable foodstuffs that could have been loaded into the camper
quickly, had we had to evacuate but didn't, this time. Hurricane season ends at the end of November so we've still got a couple of months to go.
i maintain the weather stations for a few of the local counties over
here on the east coast and central florida
(volusia, seminole, orange), most of orlando got around the 26-32
inch mark, a lot of places around by me weren't far off it either
after all is said and done.
My weather station on the beach in daytona had 780mph winds and the*** ? 78-80?
highest gust I saw was upwards of 100 miles per hour
off the top of my head.
unfortunately now, everyone wants things fixed yesterday - as if i
didnt have enough work to do lol..
that said... the weather stations my collegue has down in fort myers
where he lives (he's ok) they had sustained winds of 100+ with some
gusts upwards of over 150mph (the wind sensors are only rated at
155mph). and a lot of them are still up now..
there was a number of them that are still there, but have spotty power
and network access obviously.
yea we had power up until the day after, lost it for most of the day
and got it back about 4am the next morning.. the flooding here though
was the worst bit... couldnt get out the drive for a couple of days.
You get huricanes and tropical storms. We get ice & snow storms.
one thing i do love to do is grill fish in the pan... get a hot ridged
pan ... olive oil , drop the fish in skin down put a bit of olive oil
on top, wait a little, flip over, wait a lil bit and then serve it on a bed of mashed taters. (usually the garlic
premade mash from walmart - again cus im lazy).
sprinkle some greens over the top and voila..
I likes fishes almost any way I have tried them. I can even tolerate
Van Camp's Fish Sticks. Bv)=
eat soft things for a couple months like mash and so on and slowly work her way up. she had that done as she sufferredSounds like a blender or food processor would be very handy.
badly with heartburn and stuff like that.
i know.. it sucks having to eat those big juicy steaks etc :Dnow she gets to eat fish, minced meat and stuff like that so i get toPoor baby.
make her all sorts of different things now. but nothing spicy and unfortunately, i'm the one that has to eat all the
steaks :D
Title: Campfire Trout
Categories: Five, Seafood, Vegetables
Yield: 4 Servings
Welcome to the cooking echo. I'm located in Wake Forest, NC (where the university got started, then moved to Winston-Salem
but kept the name to confuse everybody), just a bit northeast of Raleigh.
Do you get travel pay for it?yup and i have to go up to SC next week for work because of it lolOne of your five worst ones ever. I see in today's breaking news that although it weakened down to a storm it
regained strength over the open water and landed again as a full blown hurricane after all.
Sounds interesting. My in laws used to live in Zephyrhills, moved back
up to NY State last year. My sister in law and her husband still live in Zephyrhills but summer in NYS. From what I
understand, their house didn't have any damage.
My weather station on the beach in daytona had 780mph winds and the*** ? 78-80?
highest gust I saw was upwards of 100 miles per hourThat's windy! We used to live in southeastern AZ; it was quite windy
off the top of my head.
there (usually 30-40mph range) but not tropical storm or hurricane strength. 100 mph, even as a gust, can do a lot of damage.
unfortunately now, everyone wants things fixed yesterday - as if iOf course it has to be done yesterday. (G) Our neighbors lost a tree
didnt have enough work to do lol..
(came down between 2 houses) with relatively minor side damage to a car.
I heard a crew out there yesterday taking out the tree.
that said... the weather stations my collegue has down in fort myers
where he lives (he's ok) they had sustained winds of 100+ with some
gusts upwards of over 150mph (the wind sensors are only rated at
155mph). and a lot of them are still up now..
I wouldn't want to be out in that kind of wind, glad your collegue is
ok.
there was a number of them that are still there, but have spotty powerNo surprise. My husband is into amatuer (ham) radio and is certified to
and network access obviously.
do traffic calls (passing along messages from one ham to another). He's not had any from this storm; probably the hams down in FL and coastal SC have been busy. BTW, we used to live on the NC coast, never had a storm hit us but had some near misses.
You're welcome to pull a chair up to the kitchen table, grab a cup of coffee or whatever and join in the discussion here. We usually discuss any/everything food related but I knew the other
folks here would be concerned about us and the hurricane. We used to have a gentleman named
Ian on the echo but this storm was no gentleman. (G)
Quoting Charles Blackburn to Dave Drum <=-
Re: Re: weather and climate
not sure why this is in the cooking echo, but whatever
I LOVE to make a curry, of course sometimes I go for the Jar
stuff cus i feel lazy, but i do make it from scratch every now
and again.
grill fish in the pan... get a hot ridged pan
"links" device
Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-
our permafrost is melting
Is it going to be an on going (until the next Ice Age) issue?
Lake Mead is drying up!
if city kids would stop opening fire hydrants ... there'd be
more for crops.
We're now into fall weather
We tried cutting out salt almost completely some years ago. It didn't
do anything one way or another for our blood pressure so we added some back into our diet. I still cook in the lower salt range but I know
some things have to have it to taste "right".
We'll buy the sliced turkey, ham and roast beef (cut from the
roasts) but don't get bologna and things like that
unsalted "saltine" crackers just don't have the same flavor.
Charles Blackburn wrote to Dave Drum <=-
yea we had power up until the day after, lost it for most of the day
and got it back about 4am the next morning.. the flooding here though
was the worst bit... couldnt get out the drive for a couple of days.
You get huricanes and tropical storms. We get ice & snow storms.
hehee...
being a brit i dont mind. people ask me all the time if i miss the snow and don't understand when i say yes...
i miss the snow, NOT the cold that goes with it :D
it's been a balmy mid 60s the past week since the storm in
the mornings and for someone that works outside all day
for the most part, it's been VERY pleasant
one thing i do love to do is grill fish in the pan... get a hot ridged
pan ... olive oil , drop the fish in skin down put a bit of olive oil
on top, wait a little, flip over, wait a lil bit and
then serve it on a bed of mashed taters. (usually the garlic
premade mash from walmart - again cus im lazy).
sprinkle some greens over the top and voila..
I likes fishes almost any way I have tried them. I can even tolerate
Van Camp's Fish Sticks. Bv)=
yea, i'm not a fisherman (too boring for me), but i do go
down the little fish market every now and again.
Title: Campfire Trout
Categories: Five, Seafood, Vegetables
Yield: 4 Servings
mmmm another one in the books to try at some point.
Quoting Charles Blackburn to Dave Drum <=-Greetings from Yellowknife.
Re: Re: weather and climate
not sure why this is in the cooking echo, but whatever
I'm the guy who started that thread. It was sort of food related,
in part with regard to gardening in the sub-arctic. In my lifetime
we have gone from a 75 day frost free summer growing season to 120
here (140 this year, a record). I was also speculating on the future availability and cost of California produce if the
Colorado River system dries up to the point that irrigation is severely rationed.
I see you live and work in central east Florida. I used to visit an American uncle and aunt of mine who retired to Ormund Beach, whenever
I could before they passed away.
I LOVE to make a curry, of course sometimes I go for the Jar
stuff cus i feel lazy, but i do make it from scratch every now
and again.
I am fond of curried dishes as well and in recent years have been
getting familiar with Ethiopian and Somali dishes which have similar spicing.
grill fish in the pan... get a hot ridged panSounds interesting. I use a wire mesh basket for grilled fish.
"links" deviceI had to look that up. Fascinating.
Since it's fall, almost winter, here my October recipe theme is
mostly about apples, late season root vegetables and squash, mostly
in soups, stews and casseroles.
Charles Blackburn wrote to Dave Drum <=-
You get huricanes and tropical storms. We get ice & snow storms.
hehee...Rather hard to have the one without the other, isn't it?
being a brit i dont mind. people ask me all the time if i miss the snow and don't understand when i say yes...
i miss the snow, NOT the cold that goes with it :D
it's been a balmy mid 60s the past week since the storm inSame here - We've had a couple of crisp mornings but mostly our days
the mornings and for someone that works outside all day
for the most part, it's been VERY pleasant
hover in the mid 60s to mid 70s.
In normal times we'd be in full-on leaf raking mode. So far I have seen only one oak tree showing a colour shift to red. All others are green still. Even the sumac trees which usually are harbingers of autumn haven't begun their red blaze colouring.
I likes fishes almost any way I have tried them. I can even tolerate
Van Camp's Fish Sticks. Bv)=
yea, i'm not a fisherman (too boring for me), but i do go
down the little fish market every now and again.
Fishing, unless one makes a living at it, is mostly and excuse to sit
in a boat or an a bank and drink beer whilst listening to sports talk
on the portable radio. Bv)=
Charles Blackburn wrote to Dave Drum <=-
it's been a balmy mid 60s the past week since the storm in
the mornings and for someone that works outside all day
for the most part, it's been VERY pleasant
Same here - We've had a couple of crisp mornings but mostly our
days hover in the mid 60s to mid 70s.
for the most part this week has been mid 60s climbing up to mid
80s by the end of the day. and as i generally do most of my work
before lunch, it's a welcome change for me.
usually in FL you can't really do anything after 2pm anyway in the
summer, but it also gives me the rest of the day to myself after
doing my 8 hours :D
In normal times we'd be in full-on leaf raking mode. So far I have seen only one oak tree showing a colour shift to red. All others are green still. Even the sumac trees which usually are harbingers of autumn
haven't begun their red blaze colouring.
so many leaves and branches on the ground right now i don't think many people care.. at least not down here lol... you should see it.. the
roads aren't lined with grass they're lined with chopped up trees after this storm.
Re: weather and climate
By: Ruth Haffly to Charles Blackburn on Wed Oct 05 2022 13:34:00
Welcome to the cooking echo. I'm located in Wake Forest, NC (where the
university got started, then moved to Winston-Salem
but kept the name to confuse everybody), just a bit northeast of Raleigh.
same here, i live in ormond, but everyone knows daytona so it's just easier LOL
lolOne of your five worst ones ever. I see in today's breaking news tha although it weakened down to a storm it
regained strength over the open water and landed again as a full blown hurricane after all.
yup and i have to go up to SC next week for work because of it
Do you get travel pay for it?
oh yea, i have a work truck and they pay fuel, hotels etc. about the
only time i get to eat at fancy places like outback etc kik
Sounds interesting. My in laws used to live in Zephyrhills, moved back
up to NY State last year. My sister in law and her husband still live in
Zephyrhills but summer in NYS. From what I
understand, their house didn't have any damage.
yea sunday it was supposed to hit just north of tampa, monday morning
it was supposed to hit just sounth of tampa, by tuesday it was ft
meyers. people are bitching that the ft meyers area only had the
shelters open for one day before, but like desantis said. where were
the news crews, weather channel etc... they were all camped out in sarasota the day before lol
theMy weather station on the beach in daytona had 780mph winds and
*** ? 78-80?
yea that was a fat finger :D
That's windy! We used to live in southeastern AZ; it was quite windyhighest gust I saw was upwards of 100 miles per hour
off the top of my head.
there (usually 30-40mph range) but not tropical storm or hurricane strength. 100 mph, even as a gust, can do a lot of damage.
yea i have a number (about) of weather stations LITERALLY on the beach
on the lifeguard towers. they all stayed online for the most part
until the
power/internet went out on beach side.
i CB>> didnt have enough work to do lol..unfortunately now, everyone wants things fixed yesterday - as if
Of course it has to be done yesterday. (G) Our neighbors lost a tree
(came down between 2 houses) with relatively minor side damage to a car.
I heard a crew out there yesterday taking out the tree.
yea these are places like disney, universal etc you know.... the ones where they say jump and (after the boss has taken his head out the
mouses arse) says how high..
one of them was a little pissed that i cannot do a 3 day install in 4 hours because that's all the time i'd have after finishing off the 2 installs I had in st cloud that i never finished cus ... you know... hurricane LOL
now they gotta wait acouple weeks cus im going to SC monday.
myers CB>> where he lives (he's ok) they had sustained winds of 100+that said... the weather stations my collegue has down in fort
with some CB>> gusts upwards of over 150mph (the wind sensors are
only rated at
155mph). and a lot of them are still up now..
I wouldn't want to be out in that kind of wind, glad your collegue is
ok.
he wasnt out, he lives there. he has a 2 story block house and the
water was 6ft in the ground floor. havent heard anything else since
but i do know he is ok.
didnt wanna bother him cus he has more important things on his plate
No surprise. My husband is into amatuer (ham) radio and is certified tothere was a number of them that are still there, but have spotty power CB>> and network access obviously.
do traffic calls (passing along messages from one ham to another). He's not had any from this storm; probably the hams down in FL and coastal SC have been busy. BTW, we used to live on the NC coast, never had a storm hit us but had some near misses.
yea they were, unfortunately, a lod of them dont have much left to
string up, but from what i've heard through the amateur radio channels here is that it's prety much under control
You're welcome to pull a chair up to the kitchen table, grab a cup of coffee or whatever and join in the discussion here. We usually discuss
any/everything food related but I knew the other
folks here would be concerned about us and the hurricane. We used to have
gentleman named
Ian on the echo but this storm was no gentleman. (G)
lol...
Subj: weather and climate
our permafrost is melting
Is it going to be an on going (until the next Ice Age) issue?
Not locally. Once it melts completely and the ground subsides it will stabilize again. (Yellowknife has pockets of discontinuous permafrost,
not massive amounts of it going down hundreds of feet like they do
further north.) But there are a host of other long term problems associated with the trend.
Lake Mead is drying up!
if city kids would stop opening fire hydrants ... there'd be
more for crops.
Really, that amount of water is insignificant by several orders of magnitude in the grand scheme of things.
We're now into fall weather
We just had our first hard frost. We had a low of 23 F last weekend,
so our record breaking 5 month hot streak is finally over. Roslind
and I pulled the last of the potatoes and carrots from the garden
that afternoon after we saw the forecast.
Subj: health food
We tried cutting out salt almost completely some years ago. It didn't
do anything one way or another for our blood pressure so we added some back into our diet. I still cook in the lower salt range but I know
some things have to have it to taste "right".
True. I really miss things like potato chips, popcorn, cured meats
and properly seasoned steaks. But I dropped from 180 over something
down to 150 over something almost immediately without resorting to
meds when I changed my diet.
We'll buy the sliced turkey, ham and roast beef (cut from the
roasts) but don't get bologna and things like that
They too are heavily salted. Just check the labels. I roast and
slice my own meats.
unsalted "saltine" crackers just don't have the same flavor.
Agreed. But that's the kind I'm buying these days.
This curry is more English than Indian in style ...
Title: Apple Chicken with Curry Sauce
Categories: Vegetables, Mushrooms, Chicken, Curry, Fruit
Yield: 2 Servings
2 tb Butter
2 tb Flour
2 c Heavy cream
2 Chicken bouillon cubes
1/2 c Coconut milk
1 t Curry powder or to taste
1 Whole chicken breast
1/4 c Apple slices
1/4 c Onions; chopped
1/4 c Mushrooms; chopped
4 Broccoli florets
Quoting Charles Blackburn to Dave Drum <=-
snow storms.
being a brit i dont mind.
i miss the snow, NOT the cold that goes with it :D
i'm not a fisherman (too boring for me)
Title: Campfire Trout
Hi Charles,
Re: weather and climate
By: Ruth Haffly to Charles Blackburn on Wed Oct 05 2022 13:34:00
same here, i live in ormond, but everyone knows daytona so it's just easier LOL
Everybody knows Raleigh but a lot of people hear Wake Forest and think
of the university. They moved in 1957, taking tobacco money from RJ Reynolds. In 1960, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary moved into
the vacated campus, not sure when the The College @ Southeastern moved
in. SEBTS is what brought us to Wake Forest, other things have kept us here.
yup and i have to go up to SC next week for work because of it
Do you get travel pay for it?
oh yea, i have a work truck and they pay fuel, hotels etc. about theNice to beable to enjoy meals like that every so often.
only time i get to eat at fancy places like outback etc kik
We were watching to see where it would come thru NC--a bit further east and we would have had a lot more damage than we did.
highest gust I saw was upwards of 100 miles per hour
off the top of my head.
That's windy! We used to live in southeastern AZ; it was quite windy
there (usually 30-40mph range) but not tropical storm or hurricane strength. 100 mph, even as a gust, can do a lot of
damage.
We're about an hour and a half, maybe 2 hours from beaches--depends on which one we want to go to--so our weather instruments are in the house and yard. I've thought about picking up an animometer and maybe
something else as Steve likes to give weather reports on several ham
radio networks.
taken his head out theI've yet to get to one of those places, probably never will and not miss much.
mouses arse) says how high..
I see you've talked to others on this echo. I joined it back in 1994
when we were in Arizona--it had a lot more participants. My cooking is a mish-mosh of various ethnic and American regionals.
We lived in several
states plus Germany (and Steve, Korea) in 26 years with the Army and
picked up how to make a lot of our favorites from each place we lived. Stateside, we were in CA, MA, TX, AZ, GA and HI,
finding favorite foods
from each place. Probably my favorite NC foods are eastern NC pulled
pork bbq and banana pudding.
Quoting Charles Blackburn to Dave Drum <=-
snow storms.
being a brit i dont mind.
i miss the snow, NOT the cold that goes with it :D
One becomes acclimatised to it over time. I have spent over half my
life in Yellowknife and -30 F doesn't bother me a bit any more but anything over 85 F just saps the energy right out of me. I no longer
wish to take winter vacations to places like Florida or California.
like I used to.
i'm not a fisherman (too boring for me)I used to be when I was younger. It's not boring when they're biting!
I live on the shore of Great Slave Lake which has a commercial
fishery and these days I buy from some of the local fishermen. The
cold water species here are lake trout, whitefish, grayling, ling
cod, walleye and pike. There are no bass or catfish in this part of
the world. There are no local sheefish or char here either; they are
only found further north in the rivers flowing directly into the
Arctic Ocean.
Quoting Charles Blackburn to Jim Weller <=-
yellowknife (had to look that one up
bet it does get pretty cold up there.
if the Colorado River system dries up ...
yea i know what you mean. not to mention with all the fires https://engaging-data.com/ca-reservoir-dashboard/ )
I used to visit an American uncle and aunt of mine who retired
to Ormund Beach, whenever I could before they passed away.
yea technically im in ormond
sorry to hear about your aunt/uncle
you should try mongolian. now THAT's interesting for sure.
weird thing is, it's pretty much just a stir-fry
Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-
our permafrost is melting
Sounds like somebody was thinking way ahead of himself.
Lake Mead is drying up!
if city kids would stop opening fire hydrants ... there'd be
more for crops.
Really, that amount of water is insignificant by several orders of magnitude in the grand scheme of things.
True, but it looks like so much more when you see it gushing out.
This curry is more English than Indian in style ...
1/4 c Apple slices
4 Broccoli florets
It looks good except for the coconut milk. I'd probably use just a bit more heavy cream.
just easier LOLsame here, i live in ormond, but everyone knows daytona so it's
Everybody knows Raleigh but a lot of people hear Wake Forest and think
of the university. They moved in 1957, taking tobacco money from RJ Reynolds. In 1960, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary moved into
only bit of NC I know of is the bit where i95 runs through it im
afraid, that and of course "south of the border" which im still yet to
go to, it's always 2am when im going past there.
the vacated campus, not sure when the The College @ Southeastern moved
in. SEBTS is what brought us to Wake Forest, other things have kept us here.
if you like it, why change right ?
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the CB>> only time i get to eat at fancy places like outback etc kik
Nice to beable to enjoy meals like that every so often.
yeqa it's about the only time I do.. that said, i do try andd take the missus somewhere at least once a month.
We were watching to see where it would come thru NC--a bit further east and we would have had a lot more damage than we did.
yea we got lucky as i say, was supposed to come right up I4 over the
top of us and then took a bee line down the 408/528 to cocoa.
windy RH>> there (usually 30-40mph range) but not tropical storm or hurricane strength. 100 mph, even as a gust, can do a lot of
damage.
oh yea for sure... stormsurge though is the worst thing.. I remember during hurrican matthew a number of years back, I was doing footage
for the tv station and I watched coquina rock (A REALLY dense
limestone full of shells etc) the size of a fiat 500 car be tossed
around like it was styrofoam... one ended up on the road and they
needed 2 bulldozers to move it.
We're about an hour and a half, maybe 2 hours from beaches--depends on which one we want to go to--so our weather instruments are in the house and yard. I've thought about picking up an animometer and maybe
something else as Steve likes to give weather reports on several ham
radio networks.
other than the NWS stations, the closes wx station sfor our stuff is chapel hill, cary,
clayton, smithfield etc nothing on your side. but it does appear to be
a very warm 43 degrees there according to the little airport you guys
have just to the north east (triangle North KLHZ)
I've yet to get to one of those places, probably never will and not miss much.taken his head out the
mouses arse) says how high..
to be honest, you aint missing much... 180 bucks each (FL Resident
price OOS is higher) 5+ hour waits just to go on a 3 minute ride oh
yea, not to mention 10 dollar bugers, (not incl. fries) and 4 dollar
water bottles...
yea no thanks..
that said, KSC is worse... last time we went to KSC, there was 5 of
us.... cost us 75 bucks to park, and another 600 bucks just to walk in
teh door.. if we wanted a tour etc that would be even more.
I see you've talked to others on this echo. I joined it back in 1994
when we were in Arizona--it had a lot more participants. My cooking is a
mish-mosh of various ethnic and American regionals.
We lived in several
states plus Germany (and Steve, Korea) in 26 years with the Army and
i've been lucky to live the world over so have had my fair share of
"weird stuff"
picked up how to make a lot of our favorites from each place we lived.
Stateside, we were in CA, MA, TX, AZ, GA and HI,
finding favorite foods
from each place. Probably my favorite NC foods are eastern NC pulled
pork bbq and banana pudding.
never really been that much of a "BBQ" fan. but banana pudd'n...
that's a whole new kettle of fish LMAO
Charles Blackburn wrote to JIM WELLER <=-
i love cod or haddock witth my chips, but grilled trout is the bomb.
Shawn Highfield wrote to Charles Blackburn <=-
i love cod or haddock witth my chips, but grilled trout is the bomb.
Picked up a couple of big rainbow trout filets at the store yesterday. That's what we're having for thanksgiving today as we celebrate thanksgiving with the 'mericans. (The wife is insane for football)
Going to grill it and serve with some celebration squash.
our permafrost is melting
Sounds like somebody was thinking way ahead of himself.
Well the greenhouse effect was known to scientists 200 years ago.
In the 1950s and 60s temperature changes were closely tracked and
computer modeling predicted very accurately the overall planet
warming and the resulting changes in climate and ocean behavior
we are seeing today. By the 1980s the effects became very apparent
to and easily observed by the average layman.
The City of Yellowknife beefed up its building code in respect to foundation standards and the requirement for engineered designs and obtaining geotech reports on soil conditions.
Lake Mead is drying up!
if city kids would stop opening fire hydrants ... there'd be
more for crops.
Actually those videos you see are almost always from major
cities in the northeast and not the southwest.
Also those hydrants need special wrenches to open and the hydrants
are being opened up by the fire dept, not the kids.
Really, that amount of water is insignificant by several orders of magnitude in the grand scheme of things.
True, but it looks like so much more when you see it gushing out.
I looked up the numbers and did the math: 1 acre foot = 325851 gallons
The Lake Mead reservoir is designed to hold 28,945,000 acre-feet
of water and is 248 square miles in area so we're talking about 9
trillion (9 million millions) gallons.
The worst offenders are the farmers who do spray irrigation rather
than lining their fields with drip hoses like they do in Israel. And
the second worst group are probably the urban landscapers and
homeowners designing and creating green grass golf courses and
lawns.
This curry is more English than Indian in style ...
1/4 c Apple slices
4 Broccoli florets
It looks good except for the coconut milk. I'd probably use just a bit more heavy cream.
Same here. I am not overly fond of coconut milk either.
Another curried dish, again not Indian, that calls for both apples
and squash, perfect for fall dining:
Title: Baked Squash Stuffed with Curried Chicken and Wild Rice
Categories: Microwave, Chicken, Curry, Chilies, Fruit
Yield: 6 servings
Quoting Charles Blackburn to Jim Weller <=-
yellowknife (had to look that one upWe're just a bit to the right of Fairbanks!
bet it does get pretty cold up there.
Most winters we'll hit -38 to -40 F at least once. The record low is
-60. Summer highs average 70 and the record is 90. That's only
happened twice in the past 40 years though. It was tolerable
though as the humidity was low; we have a cool semi-arid climateya no sweating like a pig every time i get out the truck this week either
here. I had to shovel much more snow back when I lived in Ottawa.
if the Colorado River system dries up ...That's a very dramatic presentation. Here's another thought
yea i know what you mean. not to mention with all the fires https://engaging-data.com/ca-reservoir-dashboard/ )
provoking article on the subject: https://tinyurl.com/colorado-water
you should try mongolian. now THAT's interesting for sure.
Are you talking about the so-called Mongolian BBQ restaurants (the
concept was invented by a restaurant guy in Taiwan who gave it a
fanciful name) or the real thing?
weird thing is, it's pretty much just a stir-fryAh, the modern Taiwan restaurant version. It's undoubtedly tastier than the real thing.
Hi Charles,
only bit of NC I know of is the bit where i95 runs through it im
afraid, that and of course "south of the border" which im still yet to
go to, it's always 2am when im going past there.
I know the I-95 corridor; my in laws used to live in FL so we'd take 95 down thru GA and into FL, then go various ways to get to Zephyrhills.
When we lived in Savannah, I-95 up to where we could cut over to I-81
was one way we headed north. We've stopped at SOTB twice, had a mediocre lunch at a Mexican restaurant (in October, so past the main season) one time. I think the other time was for ice cream, but it was less than memorable.
if you like it, why change right ?The situation has changed; we're talking about maybe moving out west in
a few years.
sometimes she does sometimes she doesnt. but even if it's just to the cafe on a sat or sun morning for breakfast makes a change.<HURRICANE IAN>
the CB>>> only time i get to eat at fancy places like outback etc kik
Nice to beable to enjoy meals like that every so often.
yeqa it's about the only time I do.. that said, i do try andd take the missus somewhere at least once a month.
I'm sure she appreciates that. We'll hit up a casual place now and again but try to go to someplace better for special occaisions. Missed that
this year for our anniversary as I was in the leg immobiliser but will make up for it on the cruise ship next week. (G)
We were watching to see where it would come thru NC--a bit further east and we would have had a lot more damage than we did.
yea we got lucky as i say, was supposed to come right up I4 over the
top of us and then took a bee line down the 408/528 to cocoa.
Steve wanted to move to FL several years ago; I'm glad I talked him out
of it. (G)
We're about an hour and a half, maybe 2 hours from beaches--depends on which one we want to go to--so our weather instruments are in the house and yard. I've thought about picking
up an animometer and maybe
something else as Steve likes to give weather reports on several ham
radio networks.
other than the NWS stations, the closes wx station sfor our stuff is chapel hill, cary,Up in Louisburg?
clayton, smithfield etc nothing on your side. but it does appear to be
a very warm 43 degrees there according to the little airport you guys
have just to the north east (triangle North KLHZ)
kennedy space center - cape canaveral. great place but prices are to the moon (pun intended)that said, KSC is worse... last time we went to KSC, there was 5 of
us.... cost us 75 bucks to park, and another 600 bucks just to walk in
teh door.. if we wanted a tour etc that would be even more.
What is KSC?
"weird stuff"
picked up how to make a lot of our favorites from each place we lived.
Stateside, we were in CA, MA, TX, AZ, GA and HI,
finding favorite foods
from each place. Probably my favorite NC foods are eastern NC pulled
pork bbq and banana pudding.
never really been that much of a "BBQ" fan. but banana pudd'n...
that's a whole new kettle of fish LMAO
Our state fair is offering a frozen banana pudding (don't remember if
it's on a stick or in a taco shell) this year. Since we don't go to the fair, we'll not get to try it.
On 10-10-22 13:30, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Jim Weller about weather and climate <=-
True, but my dad lived in the northeast and got cable tv from NYC.
There were droughts in the NE in the mid 60s; I remember several years
in a row with a green Christmas. We thought it wierd, being used to a white one. Now I've probably had more green than white ones in my lifetime, considering the various places I've lived.
yet to CB>> go to, it's always 2am when im going past there.afraid, that and of course "south of the border" which im still
I know the I-95 corridor; my in laws used to live in FL so we'd take 95 down thru GA and into FL, then go various ways to get to Zephyrhills.
When we lived in Savannah, I-95 up to where we could cut over to I-81
yea like everything else, there's multiple ways to skin a cat :D
was one way we headed north. We've stopped at SOTB twice, had a mediocre lunch at a Mexican restaurant (in October, so past the main season) one time. I think the other time was for ice cream, but it was less than memorable.
it's like skydiving, i don't see the point in it, but i wanna do it
just to say "been there, done that" :D
I should really go there though friday, imm sitting here in a hotel
room in SC right now cus i'm doing some work up this way for the
county
The situation has changed; we're talking about maybe moving out west inif you like it, why change right ?
a few years.
define "out west" cus to be honest, left of texas (and mayb arizona)
imho isn't really that friendly any more. I know a bunch of people
that have moved out of CA because they're sick of the taes, crim and people taking a dump and sharing needles on the street in plain view.
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the CB>>> only time i get to eat at fancy places like outback etc kik
take the missus somewhere at least once a month.Nice to beable to enjoy meals like that every so often.
yeqa it's about the only time I do.. that said, i do try andd
I'm sure she appreciates that. We'll hit up a casual place now and again
sometimes she does sometimes she doesnt. but even if it's just to the
cafe on a sat or sun morning for breakfast makes a change.
right now she has to be careful what she eats post-surgery (nothing
major) so half the stuff i used to make for her for "breakfast in bed"
she can't touch for a while lol
and you should see me TRYING to make grits lol.... I can't stand them
but even from a packet i screw it up lol
further east and we would have had a lot more damage than we did.We were watching to see where it would come thru NC--a bit
the CB>> top of us and then took a bee line down the 408/528 toyea we got lucky as i say, was supposed to come right up I4 over
cocoa.
Steve wanted to move to FL several years ago; I'm glad I talked him out
of it. (G)
yet you wanna move out west where it's hotter, shakier and has less
water :D
ham RH>> radio networks.something else as Steve likes to give weather reports on several
stuff is chapel hill, cary,other than the NWS stations, the closes wx station sfor our
to be CB>> a very warm 43 degrees there according to the littleclayton, smithfield etc nothing on your side. but it does appear
airport you guys CB>> have just to the north east (triangle North
KLHZ)
Up in Louisburg?
yea that's the place
http://www.airnav.com/airport/klhz
<touristy stuff)
of CB>> us.... cost us 75 bucks to park, and another 600 bucks justthat said, KSC is worse... last time we went to KSC, there was 5
to walk in CB>> teh door.. if we wanted a tour etc that would be even more.
What is KSC?
kennedy space center - cape canaveral. great place but prices are to
the moon (pun intended)
"weird stuff"
pulled RH>> pork bbq and banana pudding.picked up how to make a lot of our favorites from each place we lived. CB>> Stateside, we were in CA, MA, TX, AZ, GA and HI,
finding favorite foods
from each place. Probably my favorite NC foods are eastern NC
never really been that much of a "BBQ" fan. but banana pudd'n...
that's a whole new kettle of fish LMAO
Our state fair is offering a frozen banana pudding (don't remember if
it's on a stick or in a taco shell) this year. Since we don't go to the fair, we'll not get to try it.
lol... it's like there's a place called ritters down the road and it's "frozen custard", to me custard is what you put over a piping hot
apple or rhubarb crumble (something else I miss that I havent
found..... rhubarb)
True, but my dad lived in the northeast and got cable tv from NYC.
There were droughts in the NE in the mid 60s; I remember several years
in a row with a green Christmas. We thought it wierd, being used to a white one. Now I've probably had more green than white ones in my lifetime, considering the various places I've lived.
And sometimes you had a brown Christmas. We once were talking about
going on a coach tour starting in Phoenix. Our grandson spoke up and
said "you won't like it --- it's brown!". His other grandmother lives
in Phoenix and he had visited there, and thus spoke from experience.
Title: Tandoori Chicken
Categories: Main dish, Indian
Yield: 4 Servings
Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-
the greenhouse effect was known to scientists 200 years ago.
computer modeling predicted very accurately the overall planet
warming and the resulting changes in climate and ocean behavior
we are seeing today. By the 1980s the effects became very apparent
to and easily observed by the average layman.
so called climatologists claiming that we're cooling
down instead of heating up. (G) Sometimes you don't know who to
believe.
We saw, in AZ, especially in/around Phoenix so many green yards.
isn't as good a place for those with asthma as it used to be
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
True, but my dad lived in the northeast and got cable tv from NYC.
There were droughts in the NE in the mid 60s; I remember several years
in a row with a green Christmas. We thought it wierd, being used to a white one. Now I've probably had more green than white ones in my lifetime, considering the various places I've lived.
And sometimes you had a brown Christmas. We once were talking about
going on a coach tour starting in Phoenix. Our grandson spoke up and
said "you won't like it --- it's brown!". His other grandmother lives
in Phoenix and he had visited there, and thus spoke from experience.
Phoenix has its green spots--from people that miss their green yards
from back east and spend most of their summers watering their yards.
(G)
so called climatologists claiming that we're cooling
down instead of heating up. (G) Sometimes you don't know who to
believe.
The science is firmly established beyond a reasonable doubt and it
should be obvious to everyone by now: the polar ice caps are
shrinking, glaciers are disappearing and extreme weather event
damage (including larger and more frequent forest fires) is
increasing dramatically. Just ask anybody in the insurance industry
on that last one. Anyone still denying the reality of this is either deranged, deluded or willfully blind.
In this week's news alone we have learned that Canadian salmon
returning to spawn are dieing off before they get to the spawning
grounds because the rivers are noticeably warmer than they are used
to. Meanwhile, Alaska is cancelling entire crab harvests this year
in an effort to rebuild stocks as last year's catch was so pitifully small. Once again warmer waters are a factor. And today Canadian scientists are reporting that Arctic Ocean is not only getting
warmer with less ice cover but its acidity is increasing as a result
and plankton (the underlying base of the whole ocean food chain)
is being negatively affected. Also shellfish shells are becoming
thinner and more fragile. This is all quite alarming.
RH> Unless the kids ripped off the tools from FDNY.
Read the articles beneath the photos. The fire dept opens the
hydrants for a few minutes. Little kids are not breaking into
fire halls and stealing heavy tools. Have you seen the size of the
monkey wrench they use?
We saw, in AZ, especially in/around Phoenix so many green yards.
isn't as good a place for those with asthma as it used to be
Exactly. It proves my point.
And sometimes you had a brown Christmas. We once were talking about
going on a coach tour starting in Phoenix. Our grandson spoke up and
said "you won't like it --- it's brown!". His other grandmother lives
in Phoenix and he had visited there, and thus spoke from experience.
Phoenix has its green spots--from people that miss their green yards
from back east and spend most of their summers watering their yards.
(G)
And changing the micro-cliomate of the Phoenix area. Not to mention depleting the aquifer in pursuit of recreating what they moved to Arid Zona to escape. Not to mention the many pasture pool venues. (Goof courses).
You will probably want to substitute for the tequila called for in
this recipe. If you don't have "Mockingbird Alcohol Free Spirit" at
hand try mixing agave juice and lime. Tequila is made by fermenting
and distilling the juice of the blue agave cactus.
Title: Arizona Chicken Fajitas
Categories: Latino, Poultry, Booze, Chilies, Breads
Yield: 4 Servings
Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-
climatologists claiming that we're cooling down
The science is firmly established beyond a reasonable doubt
But how long will this last?
Looking over the last couple hundred or
so years, there have been extreme warming and cooling spells.
But will it last or will we go into another cooling spell in the next
50 years or so?
We saw, in AZ, especially in/around Phoenix so many green yards.
isn't as good a place for those with asthma as it used to be
Exactly. It proves my point.
No, in that state it's due to a lot of poeple moving in, saying they
miss such and such greenery from where they used to live, then plant
it and dump gazillion gallons of water on it to make it grow.
JIM WELLER wrote to RUTH HAFFLY <=-
climatologists claiming that we're cooling down
They are not climatologists at all, just badly informed uneducated
people who do their socalled research on conspiracy websites and unscrupilous politicians who are getting their election campaign
funding from Big Oil and the coal industry.
The science is firmly established beyond a reasonable doubt
Our CO2 levels have been increasing since the coal based industrial revolution in the 1600s and the curve sharpened dramatically at the
end of WWII. By the 1980s the effects were noticable to anyone with
their eyes open, not just scientists studing the situation.
But how long will this last?
Until the planet decreases it's carbon footprint substantially
and traps some of the existing CO2 with measures such as
reforestation etc.
Looking over the last couple hundred or
so years, there have been extreme warming and cooling spells.
There have not been! Look it up. The last cool period of any
consequence was 500 years ago in the 1500s.
But will it last or will we go into another cooling spell in the next
50 years or so?
Not a chance.
Dark seawater absorbs more heat from sunlight than white ice which reflects most of it. Once the polar ice caps disappear there will be
a phenomimal increase in ocean water temperature, way more than what is happening right now, It's called a positive feedback loop and it
will be catastophic. As well, once the permafrist is gone hundreeds
of thousands of tons of trapped methane will excape into the
atmosphere. It is a far worse greenhouse chemical than CO2. That too
will cause a positive feedback loop accelerating the temperature
increase. A large portion of the planet will become uninhabitable, agriculure and the food supply will be wrecked causing massive
starvation (which in turn will cause civil strife as those who are
most affected will not die peacefully.)
Imagine the southern borders of the USA and Europe each being
overrun by a hundred million starving desperate refugees armed with
clubs, knives and their fists who will not turn around no matter
what. Now imagine a billion.
We saw, in AZ, especially in/around Phoenix so many green yards.
isn't as good a place for those with asthma as it used to be
Exactly. It proves my point.
Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-
positive feedback loop accelerating the temperature increase. A
large portion of the planet will become uninhabitable,
agriculture and the food supply will be wrecked causing massive
starvation
I pretty much agree with all the points you make. We are
fouling our own nest.
climatologists claiming that we're cooling down
They are not climatologists at all, just badly informed uneducated
people who do their socalled research on conspiracy websites and unscrupilous politicians who are getting their election campaign
funding from Big Oil and the coal industry.
The science is firmly established beyond a reasonable doubt
Our CO2 levels have been increasing since the coal based industrial revolution in the 1600s and the curve sharpened dramatically at the
end of WWII. By the 1980s the effects were noticable to anyone with
their eyes open, not just scientists studing the situation.
But how long will this last?
Until the planet decreases it's carbon footprint substantially
and traps some of the existing CO2 with measures such as
reforestation etc.
Looking over the last couple hundred or
so years, there have been extreme warming and cooling spells.
There have not been! Look it up. The last cool period of any
consequence was 500 years ago in the 1500s.
But will it last or will we go into another cooling spell in the next
50 years or so?
Not a chance.
Imagine the southern borders of the USA and Europe each being
overrun by a hundred million starving desperate refugees armed with
clubs, knives and their fists who will not turn around no matter
what. Now imagine a billion.
We saw, in AZ, especially in/around Phoenix so many green yards.
isn't as good a place for those with asthma as it used to be
Exactly. It proves my point.
No, in that state it's due to a lot of poeple moving in, saying they
miss such and such greenery from where they used to live, then plant
it and dump gazillion gallons of water on it to make it grow.
That WAS my point. City people wasting water on a frivolity.
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