• I'm back.

    From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to All on Sun Jun 26 11:10:00 2022
    Took a short jaunt down to the Kenai. On the way back I got to
    test the anti-lock brake system on the car. From 70mph to a stop
    as mama moose and the kid decided to do the chicken thing and cross
    the highway. They were indecisive as to which lane they wanted, so
    wandered across 3 different ones before they finally exited to the
    left. I moved over into the, center, oncoming traffic lane since
    the guy behind me apparently didn't have ABS, I could hear his tires
    squealing, so I gave him a way by me. Truthfully I was more worried
    about him rearending me than me hitting the moose, I still had a
    little brake pedel left.

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    Title: Newhalen Moose Pie
    Categories: Game, Pies, Alaskan
    Yield: 4 servings

    2 lb Moose or beef; cut into 1
    -inch cubes
    1/4 c Flour
    1 ts -salt
    3 tb Shortening or veggie oil
    1 c Chopped onion or
    1/2 c Dried onion flakes
    1 c Carrots; sliced 1/4" thick
    1/4 ts Thyme
    1 1/2 c Beef stock or
    4 Bouillon cubes in 1 1/2 cups
    -Water
    2 tb Worcestershire (opt)
    1/4 ts -Pepper
    1 Stick pie crust dough or
    ;mix your favorite dough
    1 Egg; beaten

    Shake pieces of meat in sack w/flour & salt. Add oil or shortening to
    Dutch oven & place on medium heat. Brown about half the meat at a
    time & remove to another dish. When all meat is browned return it to
    Dutch oven & combine it w/onions, Worcestershire, & pepper. Bring to
    a boil, cover & simmer for 1-1/2 hrs. Pour mixture into a 9x9-"
    square baking pan & cover w/pie crust. Trim & flute edges & pierce
    crust in several places to allow steam to escape. Brush top w/beaten
    egg. Bake at 425F for 25 mins or until crust is golden brown. Pie
    will serve 4 adequately & maybe 1 more.

    Smokehouse Bear, More Alaskan Recipes and Stories, by Gordon R.
    Nelson, 1982, Alaska Northwest Publishing Co., Anchorage AK ISBN
    0-88240-227-7] W/permission of author. Typed by Deidre Ganopole.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Bill Swisher on Mon Jun 27 05:34:00 2022
    Bill Swisher wrote to All <=-

    Took a short jaunt down to the Kenai. On the way back I got to
    test the anti-lock brake system on the car. From 70mph to a stop
    as mama moose and the kid decided to do the chicken thing and cross
    the highway. They were indecisive as to which lane they wanted, so wandered across 3 different ones before they finally exited to the
    left. I moved over into the, center, oncoming traffic lane since
    the guy behind me apparently didn't have ABS, I could hear his tires squealing, so I gave him a way by me. Truthfully I was more worried
    about him rearending me than me hitting the moose, I still had a
    little brake pedel left.

    Smiting a large animal like a moose - or a hawg or cow - will do your
    bodywork no good. And, if has happened around here a couple times the
    animal rolls up over the hood and comes into the passenger compartment
    the results can be fatal.

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    Title: Newhalen Moose Pie
    Categories: Game, Pies, Alaskan
    Yield: 4 servings

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    Title: St. Norbert's Parish Moose Goulash
    Categories: Game, Vegetables, Mushrooms, Chilies, Beans
    Yield: 5 servings

    1 lb Ground moose or beef
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; chopped
    8 oz Can pieces & stems
    - mushrooms
    15 oz Can baked beans
    10 3/4 oz Can mushroom soup
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper
    1 ts Chilli spice mix

    Brown the meat in a frying pan. Add chopped onions,
    chopped garlic, baked beans and mushroom soup. Add the
    salt, pepper and chilli spice, mix well. Let simmer for
    5-10 minutes.

    by Linda St. Cyr

    RECIPE FROM: http://stnorbertmetiscouncil.com

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  • From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Mon Jun 27 07:38:00 2022
    Dave Drum wrote to Bill Swisher <=-

    Smiting a large animal like a moose - or a hawg or cow - will do your bodywork no good. And, if has happened around here a couple times the animal rolls up over the hood and comes into the passenger compartment
    the results can be fatal.

    Often referred to, locally, as getting your moose the hard way. Moose
    are built funny. Their legs are really long, so the torso is quite a
    ways up in the air. Hit a mature one with a F150 type truck and the
    torso will hit the windshield (cut the legs out from under it).
    The baby moose, born this spring, was about the size of your
    whitetailed deer, and could walk under mama's belly.
    Almost hit a pig a couple of years ago, got out of somebody's yard
    and ran out into the road, narrow twisty 2-lane with brush along
    side. That scared me, I've heard that can do as much damage as
    hitting a bear (short legged very compact animals, kinda like hitting
    a pile of bricks).


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Bill Swisher on Tue Jun 28 02:13:04 2022
    On 06-27-22 07:38, Bill Swisher <=-
    spoke to Dave Drum about Re: I'm back. <=-

    Smiting a large animal like a moose - or a hawg or cow - will do your bodywork no good. And, if has happened around here a couple times the animal rolls up over the hood and comes into the passenger compartment
    the results can be fatal.

    Often referred to, locally, as getting your moose the hard way. Moose

    What are the laws there. If you are unfortunate enough to hit and kill
    a moose or any other large animal, can you keep the carcass? TTTT, I am
    not even sure what the law says here in Maryland.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Tue Jun 28 06:28:09 2022
    Dale Shipp wrote to Bill Swisher <=-

    Smiting a large animal like a moose - or a hawg or cow - will do your bodywork no good. And, if has happened around here a couple times the animal rolls up over the hood and comes into the passenger compartment
    the results can be fatal.

    Often referred to, locally, as getting your moose the hard way. Moose

    What are the laws there. If you are unfortunate enough to hit and kill
    a moose or any other large animal, can you keep the carcass? TTTT, I am not even sure what the law says here in Maryland.

    According to the list of legal roadkill harvesting (AKA Buick Bambi)

    https://tinyurl.com/KEEP-BAMBI

    Maryland: Permit required.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Betty Trucker Roadkill Helper
    Categories: Pasta, Cheese, Dairy, Herbs, Vegetables
    Yield: 6 Servings

    MMMMM-------------------------SAUCE MIX------------------------------
    4 1/2 c Dehydrated cheese
    2 2/3 tb Powdered milk
    2 2/3 c Flour
    2 ts Onion powder

    MMMMM---------------------OTHER INGREDIENTS--------------------------
    2 c Macaroni elbows
    +=OR=+
    1 c Uncooked rice
    +=OR=+
    2 c Sliced potatoes; dried is OK
    2 c Water (1 cup if using fresh
    - potatoes)
    1/4 c Butter; or more
    1 lb Roadkill of choice; bones
    - removed as much as you can
    - fur/feathers, too
    Salt & pepper

    Mix the sauce ingredients well and store in an airtight
    container. Makes 5 pounds

    After removing hide, fur/feathers, and bones/fragments as
    best you can chop the meat as fine as you wish and brown
    in a skillet. Stir in the pasta, rice, or potatoes then
    the water and butter, combining well.

    Add a half cup of the Sauce Mix and combine well. Cover
    the skillet and simmer until the pasta/rice/potatoes are
    cooked to desired doneness.

    Season with salt and pepper.

    RECIPE FROM: The Back of the Box

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Bill Swisher on Tue Jun 28 06:30:12 2022
    Bill Swisher wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Smiting a large animal like a moose - or a hawg or cow - will do your bodywork no good. And, if has happened around here a couple times the animal rolls up over the hood and comes into the passenger compartment
    the results can be fatal.

    Often referred to, locally, as getting your moose the hard way. Moose
    are built funny. Their legs are really long, so the torso is quite a
    ways up in the air. Hit a mature one with a F150 type truck and the
    torso will hit the windshield (cut the legs out from under it).
    The baby moose, born this spring, was about the size of your
    whitetailed deer, and could walk under mama's belly.
    Almost hit a pig a couple of years ago, got out of somebody's yard
    and ran out into the road, narrow twisty 2-lane with brush along
    side. That scared me, I've heard that can do as much damage as
    hitting a bear (short legged very compact animals, kinda like hitting
    a pile of bricks).

    The only deer I've ever hit (actually it hit my semi) was one which ran
    into the drivers on my tractor-trailer and broke its fool neck. No
    damage to the truck or the deer - except that it was dead. Another guy
    stopped and we loaded it into his empty trailer. I had nowhere to carry
    the thing since I had a load of bottles destined for Hiram Walker in
    Windsor, Ontario.

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    Title: Moose & Squirrel Meat Balls *
    Categories: Game, Sauces, Dairy, Meatballs
    Yield: 8 Servings

    3 lb Ground moose and squirrel;
    - any proportion
    6 sl Soft white bread
    1/2 c Water
    1/3 c Butter
    1 1/3 c Chopped onion
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    2 tb Chopped parsley
    2 tb Flour
    1 1/2 c Milk

    * AKA "The Rocky & Bullwinkle Special"

    Especially useful recipe if main ingredients have been
    dead for 24 or more hours before harvested.

    Soak bread in water five minutes. Squeeze excess water
    out. Melt four tablespoons butter in skillet. Saute'
    onion in butter until tender. Combine moose & squirrel
    meat, squeezed bread, four teaspoons salt, 1/2 teaspoon
    pepper and parsley.

    Form mixture into 1"/2.5cm balls. Chill 20 minutes. Heat
    remaining butter in skillet. Brown moose & squirrel
    balls on all sides. Cover skillet and cook slowly 15
    minutes.

    Remove balls to warm platter. Sprinkle flour over skillet
    drippings. Stir and cook 1 minute. Stir in milk & bring
    to boil. Season to taste with salt & pepper.

    Return moose & squirrel balls to skillet. Simmer 4
    minutes more.

    Serves 8 w/pasta

    Roadkill Recipes; www.globe-guardian.com/archives/

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  • From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 28 08:42:00 2022
    Dave Drum wrote to Bill Swisher <=-

    The only deer I've ever hit (actually it hit my semi) was one which ran

    I've hit one deer. It, and a bunch of pals, ran across highway 550
    just north of Durango Colorado. Connie and I lived there at the time
    and were taking some in-laws out for a drive around. I was driving a
    IH Scout which had half a V-8 in it, slant 4, and it moved at dead
    slow. The deer dented the fender a little jumped over a barbed wire
    fence and ran off. Later we were driving down a twisty dirt road,
    rocks on one side and a cliff that went several hundred feet down to
    the creek. My SIL made me stop when we drove up to a sign reading
    "Road Narrows", she was afraid to get out of the car since there
    already wasn't much road left alongside. She took a photo through the windshield and we drove on down to the creek.

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  • From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to Dale Shipp on Tue Jun 28 08:54:02 2022
    Dale Shipp wrote to Bill Swisher <=-

    What are the laws there. If you are unfortunate enough to hit and kill
    a moose or any other large animal, can you keep the carcass? TTTT, I am not even sure what the law says here in Maryland.

    From what I could see on the states web site it looks like I, or a
    group, can apply for a permit to salvage road kill and donate it to
    one of the approved charities, there's a list somewhere of them. So
    the short answer is...Gotta give it away.

    Expensive way to go hunting. :-) A month or so ago I passed a moose
    laying along side the road dead. About a hundred yards on up the road
    was a new F150 sized pickup that was un-driveable due to the passenger
    front tire, and most of the metal over there, being relocated a foot
    further aft than it used to be (needed a new radiator/grill/etc. also)

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Bill Swisher on Wed Jun 29 05:03:00 2022
    Bill Swisher wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The only deer I've ever hit (actually it hit my semi) was one which ran

    I've hit one deer. It, and a bunch of pals, ran across highway 550
    just north of Durango Colorado. Connie and I lived there at the time
    and were taking some in-laws out for a drive around. I was driving a
    IH Scout which had half a V-8 in it, slant 4, and it moved at dead
    slow. The deer dented the fender a little jumped over a barbed wire

    I had a Scout briefly. It wasn't all that horrid - even if a bit under
    powered. It did have a "stump pulling" low gear. And it would (eventually) manage to go the speed limit on the highway. But it was rough riding as
    well as *boxy/ugly* so I traded it in on a real pick-em-up.

    fence and ran off. Later we were driving down a twisty dirt road,
    rocks on one side and a cliff that went several hundred feet down to
    the creek. My SIL made me stop when we drove up to a sign reading
    "Road Narrows", she was afraid to get out of the car since there
    already wasn't much road left alongside. She took a photo through the windshield and we drove on down to the creek.

    Sounds like a trip to Richmond, Va I made when trucking. I was taking
    a load of hooch from Heaven Hill distillery in Bardstown, Ky to the
    state liquor board distribution centre in Richmond. Rather than go all
    the way down to Wytheville and catch I-81 back up to I-64. So I took
    off on US-60 ... a nice 2 lane blackyop if you're in a car. No so nice
    in a tractor trailer with a 48 foot box. I note that they have finished
    I-64 through/along the US-60 route so it wouldn't be so bad now. I had
    to get a pry-bar to remove the seat upholstery from between my cheeks.

    Bv)=

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    Title: West Virginia Hot Dog Sauce
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 lb 80/20 ground chuck
    1 md Onion; diced small
    3 oz Tomato paste
    18 oz Tap water
    1/2 c Ketchup
    1 ts Apple cider vinegar
    1 tb Chilli spice mix
    1/2 ts Salt; more to taste
    1 ts Black pepper

    In a large pot add hamburger and enough water to cover
    meat. Work meat with hands to crumble. Cook over medium
    till meat is done.

    Add remaining ingredients and cook for an hour and a
    half, add more water if needed to thin. 1/4 teaspoon of
    red pepper flake may be added durning the last half hour
    if you prefer a little heat...enjoy

    By: Dave Thomas

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Wed Jun 29 13:20:00 2022
    Dave Drum wrote to Bill Swisher <=-

    I had a Scout briefly. It wasn't all that horrid

    I bought it the spring of 1979. It had one purpose...to get us up the
    hill to the plowed county road, about 100 yards. Every couple of weeks
    the county guy would take pity on us and make a swipe down our road,
    there were people a hundred yards further down (I always suspected
    there was a bottle of premium booze being donated to the snowplow guy
    by these people), and some across the road from us (occasionally). We
    had 5 acres, the guy at the end 5 or 10, and 2.5 across the road. The
    first snow of 1978 the trash can across the street disappeared (we saw
    it again in the spring). There was also a completely restored Jeep
    pickup (1947 to 1965 model) truck parked there, that I lusted after,
    that disappeared a little later and like the trash can reappeared.
    Pushed snow with the front bumper of that scout twice a week getting
    out. The road to our place, 5 miles out of Durango and 700' higher,
    basically look at the snowfall for Durango and pretty much double it
    for where we lived, has a speedlimit of 45 so it wasn't a great strain
    to hit the limit. Especially going downhill. :-) I was driving up
    that hill one time and heard a loud BANG from the engine compartment.
    I drove home and discovered the radiator cap had fallen off...rattled
    around and shorted the battery to ground. What I heard was the battery exploding, went through about 5 boxes of baking soda, mixed with water
    sloshed liberally around, trying to get all the acid out of the engine compartment and off the firewall after the fan got done splashing it
    about.

    Sounds like a trip to Richmond, Va I made when trucking. I was taking
    ...
    to get a pry-bar to remove the seat upholstery from between my cheeks.

    Done that once...took a shortcut from I-8 to Jamul CA via Lyons Valley
    Rd. There were a couple of turns that were exciting. We were towing
    the 5th wheel, a short 5th wheel, and I was trying to not take the
    drivers headlight out on the rocks and not tow the passenger 5th wheel
    tires off the edge of the road, and vice versa. Pedestrians would
    have been faster than me, had there been room for them to walk on the
    road. Pure luck, no oncoming traffic. Not a bad road in a small
    Coupe, fun drive actually (my rule to keep it interesting is that I
    stay in my lane completely, ala slot car, and no more that 5mph over
    the speedlimit no matter what the yellow recommendation signs say).
    I'm not insane, so sometimes I slow down to the speedlimit.


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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to BILL SWISHER on Tue Jun 28 20:30:00 2022
    Quoting Bill Swisher to All <=-

    I got to test the anti-lock brake system ... moose

    I've had simmilar close calls both here with bison and back in
    Ontario with cattle. Also an elk once at night near Banff and deer
    just about all over.

    the guy behind me apparently didn't have ABS ... I was more
    worried about him rearending me than me hitting the moose

    But never that at the same time.

    Another crockpot chicken thing. This one is from a real chef but
    is dead simple. (He used to hang out here as long time ago.)


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    Title: Chicken Delicious
    Categories: Crockpot, Chicken, Chilies, Wine, Cheese
    Yield: 6 Servings

    6 Whole Chicken Breasts;
    Boned & Halved
    10 3/4 oz Canned Condensed
    Cream Of Mushroom Soup
    10 3/4 oz Canned Condensed
    Cream Of Celery Soup
    Salt And Pepper
    1/3 c Dry Sherry
    Parmesan; Grated
    Celery Salt
    Cooked Rice; hot
    Paprika

    Rinse the chicken breasts. Pat dry. Season with lemon juice, salt,
    pepper, celery salt and paprika. Place in the slow cooker. Mix the
    condensed cream of mushroom and cream of celery soups with the
    sherry. Pour over the chicken breasts. Sprinkle with Parmesan.
    Cover. Cook on LOW for 8 to 10 hours. Serve over hot, fluffy rice.

    Recipe by: Joel Ehrlich, Executive chef Valentino's and One Door
    East Miami and Fort Lauderdale

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  • From Nigel Reed@nospam@nospam.com to Bill Swisher on Sun Jan 8 14:49:18 2023
    On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 11:10:00 +0000
    "Bill Swisher" <bill.swisher@1:261/1466> wrote:

    Took a short jaunt down to the Kenai. On the way back I got to
    test the anti-lock brake system on the car. From 70mph to a stop
    as mama moose and the kid decided to do the chicken thing and cross
    the highway. They were indecisive as to which lane they wanted, so
    wandered across 3 different ones before they finally exited to the
    left. I moved over into the, center, oncoming traffic lane since
    the guy behind me apparently didn't have ABS, I could hear his tires squealing, so I gave him a way by me. Truthfully I was more worried
    about him rearending me than me hitting the moose, I still had a
    little brake pedel left.


    I was hauling ass through Kansas on a back road, like 80 in a 60 or 70
    and out of nowhere, blue lights...this is in the middle of BFE, Kansas.

    Cop asked me why I was in a rush and I said, "Just trying to get back
    to Texas". He told me to slow down, the deer are bigger in Kansas. (I
    was thinking, "yeah, everything is bigger in Texas, buddy" but kept my
    trap shut). I got a warning and I was on my way.

    No deer or moose where injured on this trip :)
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  • From Denis Mosko@1:153/757.1315 to Nigel Reed on Mon Jan 9 07:31:57 2023
    ...this is in the middle of BFE, Kansas.
    What is ^^^, Nigel?


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  • From Nigel Reed to Denis Mosko on Tue Jan 10 13:13:49 2023
    Re: I'm back.
    By: Denis Mosko to Nigel Reed on Mon Jan 09 2023 07:31:57

    ...this is in the middle of BFE, Kansas.
    What is ^^^, Nigel?

    BFE - Urban Dictionary
    define term=BFE
    abbreviation for "Bum Fuck Egypt" or "Butt Fuck Egypt" -- in the middle of metaphorical nowhere -- an extremely isolated, inaccessible and inconvenient location ...