• Telegram

    From Nil Alexandrov@2:5015/46 to All on Sun Sep 13 04:06:26 2020
    Hello, All!

    I can see the Telegram gateway has been activated for this echomail which makes me wonder how much Telegram is know outside of Russia in general.

    Best Regards, Nil
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: -=NIL BBS=- (2:5015/46)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to Nil Alexandrov on Sun Sep 13 04:32:10 2020
    Answering a msg from Nil Alexandrov:
    Hello, All!

    I can see the Telegram gateway has been activated for this echomail which makes me wonder how much Telegram is know outside of Russia in general.

    Best Regards, Nil

    Hi Nil,

    I only learned about Telegram itself by seeing discussions about this gateway. I myself am more familiar with a program called GroupMe, which I only learned of because it was used by players in mmorpg games I used to play.


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Nil Alexandrov on Sat Sep 12 22:08:00 2020
    Hello Nil!

    ** On Sunday 13.09.20 - 04:06, Nil Alexandrov wrote to All:

    I can see the Telegram gateway has been activated for
    this echomail which makes me wonder how much Telegram is
    know outside of Russia in general.

    Maybe this is just the beginning.

    It is a very nice app to use. The word about it just has to
    get around some more. Stas' gate project has brought to the
    fore some cool usefulness and purpose for using the app.

    A few other echos have been added to the gate:

    DOOM
    DOORGAMES
    DOS
    ESSNASA
    FIDO_UTIL
    MOVIES
    TAGLINES
    TUXPOWER
    FUTURE4FIDO
    FIDO-REQ

    NOTE to ALL: If anyone is interested in trying them out on
    your smartphones, just contact either @aabolins or
    @cepiersonjr, and we can add you.



    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: (2:221/1.58)
  • From Nil Alexandrov@2:5015/46 to August Abolins on Sun Sep 13 05:50:36 2020
    Hello, August!

    Saturday September 12 2020 22:08, from August Abolins -> Nil Alexandrov:

    It is a very nice app to use. The word about it just has to
    get around some more. Stas' gate project has brought to the
    fore some cool usefulness and purpose for using the app.

    I actually don't know many non-Russian fido echoareas to chat.
    I'm not into cooking or politics haha.

    Best Regards, Nil
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: -=NIL BBS=- (2:5015/46)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Nil Alexandrov on Sun Sep 13 00:23:00 2020
    Hello Nil!

    ** On Sunday 13.09.20 - 05:50, Nil Alexandrov wrote to August Abolins:

    I actually don't know many non-Russian fido echoareas to
    chat. I'm not into cooking or politics haha.

    THIS echo is a good place to just hang out and talk about just
    about anything that isn't covered in another echo.

    Welcome amongst the english-speaking.


    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: (2:221/1.58)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Nil Alexandrov on Sun Sep 13 22:08:22 2020
    Hi, Nil!

    13 сен 20 04:06, Nil Alexandrov -> All:

    I can see the Telegram gateway has been activated for this echomail
    which makes me wonder how much Telegram is know outside of Russia in general.

    Surprise? ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Женщины ревнуют, потому что знают, на что способны женщины.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Charles Pierson on Sun Sep 13 22:21:56 2020
    Hi, Charles!

    12 сен 20 22:11, Charles Pierson -> Nil Alexandrov:

    I actually don't know many non-Russian fido echoareas to chat. I'm
    not into cooking or politics haha.

    It's interesting to look around for them.

    I can gate them too, but don't make me read them. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Кто не любит вина, женщин и песен, так дypаком и yмpет!
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Sep 13 22:29:11 2020
    Answering a msg from Stas Mishchenkov:
    Hi, Charles!

    12 сен 20 22:11, Charles Pierson -> Nil Alexandrov:

    I actually don't know many non-Russian fido echoareas to chat. I'm
    not into cooking or politics haha.

    It's interesting to look around for them.

    I can gate them too, but don't make me read them. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    Looking at the ELIST, there are several, but I have to look elsewhere for activity on them.
    I would guess ideally, you would want a fair amount of traffic on the Fido side, and obviously interested parties on the Telegram side, or Fido users willing to use Telegram as a backup access.


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Nil Alexandrov@2:5015/46 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Sep 13 23:00:28 2020
    Hello, Stas!

    Sunday September 13 2020 22:21, from Stas Mishchenkov -> Charles Pierson:

    I actually don't know many non-Russian fido echoareas to chat.
    I'm not into cooking or politics haha.

    It's interesting to look around for them.

    I can gate them too, but don't make me read them. ;)

    As we saw the chart before, the most popular messenger is the Facebook. Why not make a gateway for FB then? ;)

    Best Regards, Nil
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: -=NIL BBS=- (2:5015/46)
  • From Nil Alexandrov@2:5015/46 to Charles Pierson on Sun Sep 13 23:05:12 2020
    Hello, Charles!

    Sunday September 13 2020 22:29, from Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Looking at the ELIST, there are several, but I have to look elsewhere
    for activity on them. I would guess ideally, you would want a fair
    amount of traffic on the Fido side, and obviously interested parties
    on the Telegram side, or Fido users willing to use Telegram as a
    backup access.

    Just let me understand the whole Fido to Telegram recent trend concept in general.
    Is it all about bringing in a mix a modern and convenient app for iOS/Android in lieu of native modern and convenient Fido app? ;-)

    Best Regards, Nil
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: -=NIL BBS=- (2:5015/46)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to Nil Alexandrov on Sun Sep 13 23:30:14 2020
    Answering a msg from Nil Alexandrov:
    Hello, Charles!

    Sunday September 13 2020 22:29, from Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Looking at the ELIST, there are several, but I have to look elsewhere
    for activity on them. I would guess ideally, you would want a fair
    amount of traffic on the Fido side, and obviously interested parties
    on the Telegram side, or Fido users willing to use Telegram as a
    backup access.

    Just let me understand the whole Fido to Telegram recent trend concept in general.
    Is it all about bringing in a mix a modern and convenient app for iOS/Android in lieu of native modern and convenient Fido app? ;-)

    Best Regards, Nil

    I would think it's for mobility access. Fido on the move, you can keep up with some echoes while away from your computer.

    I have the only 2 point system s I can find in the Google play store, and both have limitations, and little to no support.

    This potentially could also give a way to introduce people to Fido who aren't familiar with it by using a chat app, which most people are familiar with, to access Fido echoes.


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to Nil Alexandrov on Sun Sep 13 23:32:11 2020
    Answering a msg from Nil Alexandrov:
    Hello, Stas!

    Sunday September 13 2020 22:21, from Stas Mishchenkov -> Charles Pierson:

    I actually don't know many non-Russian fido echoareas to chat.
    I'm not into cooking or politics haha.

    It's interesting to look around for them.

    I can gate them too, but don't make me read them. ;)

    As we saw the chart before, the most popular messenger is the Facebook. Why not make a gateway for FB then? ;)

    Best Regards, Nil

    One, Facebook isn't open source. 2 they get shitty with their what's allowed and whats not. 3 do you really want Facebook involved in Fido?


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Nil Alexandrov on Sun Sep 13 23:51:02 2020
    *** Ответ на сообщение из _Carbon.Mail (Carbon.Mail).

    Hi, Nil!

    13 сен 20 23:00, Nil Alexandrov -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    As we saw the chart before, the most popular messenger is the
    Facebook.
    Why not make a gateway for FB then? ;)

    By the fact that it makes me sick (and maybe even snatch) from social networks. ;)
    However, if there is someone with a tighter stomach, why not? This raises a completely different question. Do we need an public from there?

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Я из того поколения, которое знает, зачем мнут газету.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Nil Alexandrov on Mon Sep 14 00:01:32 2020
    Hi, Nil!

    13 сен 20 23:05, Nil Alexandrov -> Charles Pierson:

    Just let me understand the whole Fido to Telegram recent trend concept
    in general. Is it all about bringing in a mix a modern and convenient
    app for iOS/Android in lieu of native modern and convenient Fido app?
    ;-)

    Not. This is rather another type of BBS. It is convenient that, on the one hand, the sysop shifts most of the work to third-party resources without spending his own (including taking care of the user's preferences). On the other hand, users get the opportunity to access such a BBS by mobile (wearable) devices, that they already have.
    This kind of BBS successfully lowers the network entry threshold. Exactly enough so that a muddy wave of pioneers and older morons would not rush here.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Запомни, люди не меняются, ты их просто лучше узнаёшь.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Charles Pierson on Mon Sep 14 00:14:26 2020
    Hi, Charles!

    13 сен 20 23:30, Charles Pierson -> Nil Alexandrov:

    I would think it's for mobility access. Fido on the move, you can
    keep up with some echoes while away from your computer.

    Yes. This is also convenient.

    I have the only 2 point system s I can find in the Google play store,
    and both have limitations, and little to no support.

    What do you know about HOTDOGED echo conference?

    This potentially could also give a way to introduce people to Fido who aren't familiar with it by using a chat app, which most people are familiar with, to access Fido echoes.

    I think sometimes it can work too.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Очень помогает проснуться с утра арбуз с вечера.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Mon Sep 14 00:26:10 2020
    Answering a msg from Stas Mishchenkov:
    Hi, Charles!

    13 сен 20 23:30, Charles Pierson -> Nil Alexandrov:

    I would think it's for mobility access. Fido on the move, you can
    keep up with some echoes while away from your computer.

    Yes. This is also convenient.

    I have the only 2 point system s I can find in the Google play store,
    and both have limitations, and little to no support.

    What do you know about HOTDOGED echo conference?

    This potentially could also give a way to introduce people to Fido who aren't familiar with it by using a chat app, which most people are familiar with, to access Fido echoes.

    I think sometimes it can work too.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    I am subscribed to the HotdogEd echo, but not a lot of answers to my questions in the past.


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Charles Pierson on Mon Sep 14 00:34:10 2020
    Hi, Charles!

    14 сен 20 00:26, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    I am subscribed to the HotdogEd echo, but not a lot of answers to my questions in the past.

    The author often appears in the Russian-language echo of PUSHKINLOCAL. There is also RU.HOTDOGED, where English is not prohibited and many subscribers understand it. I just wanted to say that this program is slowly developing and the author is available. However, I did not like it and I did not use it.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Настроение было настолько хреновым, что даже печень предложила выпить.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Mon Sep 14 01:04:11 2020
    Answering a msg from Stas Mishchenkov:
    Hi, Charles!

    14 сен 20 00:26, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    I am subscribed to the HotdogEd echo, but not a lot of answers to my questions in the past.

    The author often appears in the Russian-language echo of PUSHKINLOCAL. There is also RU.HOTDOGED, where English is not prohibited and many subscribers understand it. I just wanted to say that this program is slowly developing and the author is available. However, I did not like it and I did not use it.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    I don't see much activity at all in the HotdogEd echo. I might try to add the RU one. I've emailed error logs to him. Once a year or so ago. At the time he replied he was too busy to work on my issue. Recently no answer at all.
    I like the program because it allows multiple point connections. However it seems hard coded to not allow multi digit zones. When I try my node for FSXNet for example the handshake trust to connect with 1:4/100 instead of 21:4/100. It does the same with JustaXNet, which has a 3 digit zone.
    Aftershock works with both, but only has one connection at a time, which would require me changing my settings manually for each Network connection.

    Ideally, I would love to look at open source point or bbs software to modify for an Android to handle all of the connections, and have the features that aren't available to Android otherwise. But my coding skills aren't there.


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Sep 13 17:22:00 2020
    Hello Stas!

    ** On Sunday 13.09.20 - 23:51, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Nil Alexandrov:

    Why not make a gateway for FB then? ;)

    ..This raises a completely different question. Do we need
    an public from there?

    I can't imagine the ilk that make up the majority of FB to
    suddenly embrace Fidonet. But maybe the expatriated BBSers
    who have "discovered" other social media might like to know
    that some access to echomail is now pretty easy via Telegram.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: (2:221/1.58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Charles Pierson on Sun Sep 13 17:32:00 2020
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Sunday 13.09.20 - 23:30, Charles Pierson wrote to Nil Alexandrov:

    Answering a msg from Nil Alexandrov:

    Just let me understand the whole Fido to Telegram recent
    trend concept in general. Is it all about bringing in a
    mix a modern and convenient app for iOS/Android in lieu
    of native modern and convenient Fido app? ;-)

    I would think it's for mobility access. Fido on the
    move, you can keep up with some echoes while away from
    your computer.

    And I would add trasportability across devices. Your messages
    are synced across your laptop, desktop, and portable devices.


    I have the only 2 point system s I can find in the Google
    play store, and both have limitations, and little to no
    support.

    I thought at least one of them was picking up speed again.
    But in either of those apps, your messages are not synced if
    you choose to install another instance of the app on another
    device.


    This potentially could also give a way to introduce
    people to Fido who aren't familiar with it by using a
    chat app, which most people are familiar with, to access
    Fido echoes.

    And, the user may even learn about the original nature of
    BBSing, other offline readers, etc.. and discover that there a
    whole new world of communication outside the smartphone. ;)

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: (2:221/1.58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Nil Alexandrov on Sun Sep 13 17:37:00 2020
    Hello Nil!

    ** On Sunday 13.09.20 - 23:05, Nil Alexandrov wrote to Charles Pierson:

    Just let me understand the whole Fido to Telegram recent
    trend concept in general. Is it all about bringing in a
    mix a modern and convenient app for iOS/Android in lieu
    of native modern and convenient Fido app? ;-)

    The problem is that there is no one available to write this
    thing you call "native modern and convenient Fido app".

    Telegram seems to take care of providing a pretty good UI.

    Stas' gate takes care of bridging the messages.

    And, yes.. probably the primary idea is to make Fidonet
    accessible on a smartphone. The experiment seems to show
    good results.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: (2:221/1.58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Charles Pierson on Sun Sep 13 17:58:00 2020
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Sunday 13.09.20 - 22:29, Charles Pierson wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    Looking at the ELIST, there are several, but I have to
    look elsewhere for activity on them. I would guess
    ideally, you would want a fair amount of traffic on the
    Fido side, and obviously interested parties on the
    Telegram side, or Fido users willing to use Telegram as a
    backup access.

    Those would all be good criteria!

    Look at the echomail stats table in the FidoGazette. If you
    exclude the auto-posted echos, and the clearly pure sysop/bbs
    talk echos, there are a handful of echos that could make good
    candidates for regular "users".

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: (2:221/1.58)
  • From Nil Alexandrov@2:5015/46 to Charles Pierson on Mon Sep 14 00:57:10 2020
    Hello, Charles!

    Sunday September 13 2020 23:30, from Charles Pierson -> Nil Alexandrov:

    Just let me understand the whole Fido to Telegram recent trend
    concept in general. Is it all about bringing in a mix a modern and
    convenient app for iOS/Android in lieu of native modern and
    convenient Fido app? ;-)

    I would think it's for mobility access. Fido on the move, you can
    keep up with some echoes while away from your computer.

    It is exactly the native Fidonet app use case you are talking about.

    I have the only 2 point system s I can find in the Google play store,
    and both have limitations, and little to no support.

    HotdogEd http://hotdoged.propush.ru and AfterShock http://www.asvcorp.ru/aftershock/

    While HotdogEd still has support and free for FTN transport and is paid for NNTP, the AfterShock project is paid only option and is not supported and is known to have bad behavior with message threads and stuff.

    This potentially could also give a way to introduce people to Fido who aren't familiar with it by using a chat app, which most people are familiar with, to access Fido echoes.

    Most software developers are bad at UI design, these are different roles and should be performed by a team. So far there is no good collaboration to establish some new fido app development in a modern fashion.

    Another difference is that a typical app will talk back to a centralized backend server to sync up all subscriptions and it usually makes it possible to access your mail and groups from different devices including mobile, desktop and web. This kind of works for NNTP where all messages are stored on the server and a client can cache them for offline reading. Where the FTN approach is to download bundles for a particular FTN address, e.g. point address. Once you download incoming packets to your mobile phone, you will not be able to get them on the other device. I now people will create a few point addresses and setup some netmail forwarding/copying between them, but this solution is ugly.

    Best Regards, Nil
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: -=NIL BBS=- (2:5015/46)
  • From Nil Alexandrov@2:5015/46 to Charles Pierson on Mon Sep 14 01:11:30 2020
    Hello, Charles!

    Sunday September 13 2020 23:32, from Charles Pierson -> Nil Alexandrov:

    As we saw the chart before, the most popular messenger is the
    Facebook. Why not make a gateway for FB then? ;)

    One, Facebook isn't open source. 2 they get shitty with their what's allowed and whats not. 3 do you really want Facebook involved in Fido?

    The idea is to help people who stuck with the FB to allow them read some fido echomail without leaving the platform of comfort.

    Best Regards, Nil
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: -=NIL BBS=- (2:5015/46)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to Nil Alexandrov on Mon Sep 14 01:36:11 2020
    Answering a msg from Nil Alexandrov:
    Hello, Charles!

    Sunday September 13 2020 23:32, from Charles Pierson -> Nil Alexandrov:

    As we saw the chart before, the most popular messenger is the
    Facebook. Why not make a gateway for FB then? ;)

    One, Facebook isn't open source. 2 they get shitty with their what's allowed and whats not. 3 do you really want Facebook involved in Fido?

    The idea is to help people who stuck with the FB to allow them read some fido echomail without leaving the platform of comfort.

    Best Regards, Nil

    The Problem with Facebook, and many other, if not all social media systems of the like comes down to their terms of service. They can control, and even claim ownership of anything on their platforms. And Facebook is also known for buying and either shutting down or coopting other services to make themselves stronger. Not something I think Fido wants or needs.


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Sep 13 18:18:00 2020
    Hello Stas!

    ** On Monday 14.09.20 - 00:01, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Nil Alexandrov:


    ..This kind of BBS successfully lowers the network entry
    threshold. Exactly enough so that a muddy wave of
    pioneers and older morons would not rush here.


    "muddy.. ..morons" ROTFL.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: (2:221/1.58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Nil Alexandrov on Sun Sep 13 18:51:00 2020
    Hello Nil!

    ** On Monday 14.09.20 - 00:57, Nil Alexandrov wrote to Charles Pierson:

    Most software developers are bad at UI design, these are
    different roles and should be performed by a team. So far
    there is no good collaboration to establish some new fido
    app development in a modern fashion.

    I cannot disagree with that. :) Engineers focused on
    technicalities are rarely interested in aesthetics or
    ergonomics for the user.


    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: (2:221/1.58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Nil Alexandrov on Sun Sep 13 18:56:00 2020
    Hello Nil!

    ** On Monday 14.09.20 - 01:11, Nil Alexandrov wrote to Charles Pierson:

    One, Facebook isn't open source. 2 they get shitty with
    their what's allowed and whats not. 3 do you really want
    Facebook involved in Fido?

    The idea is to help people who stuck with the FB to allow
    them read some fido echomail without leaving the platform
    of comfort.

    I don't think you would find most smartphone users resisting
    to add another app. Telegram is just one of those "other"
    apps with fun times to be had for all. The messaging UI and
    operations are basically the same.

    Bottom line, there is no open way to build such a thing to
    integrate with FB Messenger. That's a good thing! ;)

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: (2:221/1.58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Charles Pierson on Mon Sep 14 08:25:00 2020
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Monday 14.09.20 - 07:00, Charles Pierson wrote to August Abolins:

    ..But that's why you have people such as ourselves who
    take these toys out and play hard with them. Then we go
    back to the developer and say "This is good, but can
    you....." So they know what people would like to see.

    Yep. Stas is a good sport and very receptive with our cries
    of "..but can you...".


    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: (2:221/1.58)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to August Abolins on Mon Sep 14 16:05:12 2020
    Answering a msg from August Abolins:
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Monday 14.09.20 - 07:00, Charles Pierson wrote to August Abolins:

    ..But that's why you have people such as ourselves who
    take these toys out and play hard with them. Then we go
    back to the developer and say "This is good, but can
    you....." So they know what people would like to see.

    Yep. Stas is a good sport and very receptive with our cries
    of "..but can you...".


    --
    ../|ug

    That's the sign of a good coder. They listen to what the people using the program say, and make adjustments, as possible to meet what people would like.

    True story. I worked for a large company that spent a couple of million dollars on a new modification for their program to help with logistics. I was invited to test. I broke their program in 10 seconds. The Project manager hated me.
    "Why would you do that?"
    We were in a conference room next to the Customer Service Department and Shipping Department. I pointed at those areas and said "I know how these people think. It's something they would do."
    The coders were across the table from me madly making notes for adjustments. The Project Manager kicked me out of testing.
    The coders called me for the rest of my time at that company to have my input. I gave them real life results.


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/58.10 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 16 11:33:42 2020
    Hi, August!

    13 сен 20 17:58, August Abolins -> Charles Pierson:

    Look at the echomail stats table in the FidoGazette. If you
    exclude the auto-posted echos, and the clearly pure sysop/bbs
    talk echos, there are a handful of echos that could make good
    candidates for regular "users".

    = CRIMEA.ROBOTS (2:460/58.10) =================================================
    Msg : 1982 of 1985
    From : Stas Mishchenkov 2:460/58 Tue 15 Sep 20 23:58
    To : All
    Subj : EchoStat ===============================================================================

    Area Messages ---------------------------------------------------
    SU.POL 244
    FIDONET.ONLINE 134
    SU.HARDW.OTHER 109
    COFFEE_KLATSCH 66
    FUTURE4FIDO 56
    RU.FIDONET.TODAY 47
    R50.SYSOP.DRUNK 35
    ALL-POLITICS 35
    COOKING 35
    FIDONEWS 29
    ENET.SYSOP 29
    NINO.046.LOCAL 26
    PUSHKIN.LOCAL 20
    TAGLINES 12
    RU.SNOOKER 12

    [...skipped...]

    -+- Evil Robot
    + Origin: Lame Users Breeding, Crimea. (2:460/58) ===============================================================================

    Have nice nights.
    Brother Rabbit.

    --- Коньки и ласты - что суждено отбросить, того уже не склеишь...
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/58.10)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Wed Jan 6 09:43:11 2021
    Re: -==============================================-
    By: August Abolins to All on Wed Jan 06 2021 08:26 pm

    - LIST of Telegram/Fidonet echos as of JANUARY 2021

    This is just a little reminder about the Fidonet echos{*} that are available to be enjoyed using Telegram as of Dec 2020. Simply visit the links to get the full description of each echo and see the cool icon.

    You might want to add a little info for moderators who might be interested in having their echoes on Telegram also.. who to talk to and how to contact them.

    Just a suggestion.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... This sentence contradicts itself -- no actually it doesn't.
    --- SBBSecho 3.12-Linux
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Fido2telebot on Wed Jan 6 20:57:30 2021
    --From: Alan Ianson 1:153/757.2--
    342.fido-coffeekl@1:153/757.2 245b2e05
    Re: -==============================================-
    By: August Abolins to All on Wed Jan 06 2021 08:26 pm

    - LIST of Telegram/Fidonet echos as of JANUARY 2021

    This is just a little reminder about the Fidonet echos{*} that are available to be enjoyed using Telegram as of Dec 2020. Simply visit the links to get the full description of each echo and see the cool icon.

    You might want to add a little info for moderators who might be interested in having their echoes on Telegram also.. who to talk to and how to contact them.

    Just a suggestion.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... This sentence contradicts itself -- no actually it doesn't.

    Hi Al,

    That could be true. But I think the last hold-outs were the pull-outs and those would be the next best echos to add for the Telegram experience. Meanwhile, I have posted this in ECHO_ADS in the recent past. Maybe a reminder every month or so would work.

    I really can't think of any other "official" fidonet echos that could work. Many of the others are pure programming or technical where copy-paste of source codes or tables would not work very well with the Telegram reader app.


    --- tg BBS v0.6.3
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)