Study Suggests There Are 300 Million Potentially Habitable Worlds in
Our Galaxy
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Hi Charles, On 2020-11-11 08:13:40, you wrote to All:
Study Suggests There Are 300 Million Potentially Habitable WorldsInteresting of course...
in Our Galaxy
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know I was connected to it. ;-) What made you post in this area
instead of 'ASTRONOMY' ?
Bye, Wilfred. --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815 * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
This is the first message I ever got in this area, didn't even
know I was connected to it. ;-) What made you post in this area
instead of 'ASTRONOMY' ?
Honestly, morbid curiosity. I like seeing which areas will actually get a reply.
An exhaustive new study from NASA has concluded that there could be a whopping 300 million habitable worlds in the Milky Way galaxy..
I can just picture these scientists "exhausted" and slumped over their desks.
I am not entirely impressed by the study. Is it really any different than saying "with enough monkeys, they could write Shakespeare".
This is the first message I ever got in this area, didn't even
know I was connected to it. ;-) What made you post in this area
instead of 'ASTRONOMY' ?
Honestly, morbid curiosity. I like seeing which areas will actually get a
reply.
I'm going to connect it on my other links that have it available.
Maybe that will release some isolated "sub nets" of the area. ;-)
On 11/11/2020 10:30 AM, between "Wilfred van Velzen - Charles Pierson":
This is the first message I ever got in this area, didn't even
know I was connected to it. ;-) What made you post in this area
instead of 'ASTRONOMY' ?
Honestly, morbid curiosity. I like seeing which areas will actuall
a
reply.
I'm going to connect it on my other links that have it available.
Maybe that will release some isolated "sub nets" of the area. ;-)
But it is not getting attention. It's not in Janice's echolist table in the Fidogazette.
This is probably one of the reasons why new people are not finding
Fidonet echos.
It would be nice if there was a more consolidated (and real-time) way to announce active/live echos.
I'm going to connect it on my other links that have it available.
Maybe that will release some isolated "sub nets" of the area. ;-)
But it is not getting attention. It's not in Janice's echolist table in the
Fidogazette.
This is probably one of the reasons why new people are not finding
Fidonet echos.
It would be nice if there was a more consolidated (and real-time) way
to announce active/live echos.
Echos are limited by whatever the Sysop carries. I've read discussions about it where some sysops have said they only carry those areas which interest them. That's fair, it's their system after all. So it becomes a crap shoot whether or not a particular Echo is on a particular system.
But I'm sure there are many "abandoned" echos such as this one that
are stilk on various systems. you have to muddle through and find
them, and see which ones still are linked to multiple systems,
and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos on the ELIST.
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I used to connect only to areas, that (at least mildly) interest me. I never do
send %ALL to AreaFix of my links. I don't need links to all those
hundreds of long forgotten dead areas that some systems keep in their config.
Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY, which at least had a bit of traffic over the years.
and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos on the ELIST.
There is nothing official about the ELIST! ;)
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This is getting bigger though...
But I'm sure there are many "abandoned" echos such as this one that
are stilk on various systems. you have to muddle through and find
them, and see which ones still are linked to multiple systems,
Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY, which at least had a bit of traffic over the years.
and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos on the ELIST.
There is nothing official about the ELIST! ;)
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This is getting bigger though...
I used to connect only to areas, that (at least mildly) interest me.
I never do send %ALL to AreaFix of my links. I don't need links to
all those hundreds of long forgotten dead areas that some systems
keep in their config.
As a Sysop, that's completely within your rights. I would guess Hubs are the only systems that would need to carry everything,
although I believe it's possiible to handle transfer of echos without carrying them on your system.
Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY,
which at least had a bit of traffic over the years.
Maybe we don't. It could be that these two echos handled different in times
gone by. Maybe one was strictly announcements and the other had discussions.
The problem is that once an echo is created, it exists forever, unless somehow every system that carries it deletes it.
and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echoson
the
ELIST.
There is nothing official about the ELIST! ;)
Notice I put "official" in quotes.
I suppose I could have said listed on the backbone, but that's only Z1 right?
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This is getting bigger though...
So it's being seen, if not used.
There are many, many echos that aren't listed. That doesn't mean they aren'tt connected though.
Echos are limited by whatever the Sysop carries. I've read discussions about it where some sysops have said they only carry those areas which interest them. That's fair, it's their system after all. So it becomes a crap shoot whether or not a particular Echo is on a particular system.
It would be nice if there was a more consolidated (and real-time) way to announce active/live echos.
You aren't going to get real-time with FTN Technology. The best you'lll get is those systems that have bots or whatever that post stats from their systems.
But I'm sure there are many "abandoned" echos such as this one that are stilk on various systems. you have to muddle through and find them, and see which ones still are linked to multiple systems, and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos on the ELIST.
Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY,
which at least had a bit of traffic over the years.
Maybe we don't. It could be that these two echos handled different in times
gone by. Maybe one was strictly announcements and the other had discussions.
Could be. Although I think there is an other kind of distinction.
ASTRONOMY being more the scientific area, and ASTRONET sounds more
non scientific...
The problem is that once an echo is created, it exists forever, unless somehow every system that carries it deletes it.
Indeed. And deleting everywhere never happens. It takes a very long
time for dead or abondoned echos to disappear, and some never did.
Some even get some live back in them at one point, like this one. ;)
But it is not getting attention. It's not in Janice's echolist table in the
Fidogazette.
I never look at it. ;)
If I want to look for (active) areas, I look in the 'STATS' echomail
area. All those dead areas, are best left that way! ;)
This is probably one of the reasons why new people are not finding Fidonet echos.
The best way, still, to find areas for points and nodes, is to send a
%LIST to their links. So you get the existing ones on their systems.
(Not necessarily the active ones) BBS users of course can only access
what is available on the system they are logged in to at the
moment...
It would be nice if there was a more consolidated (and real-time) way
to announce active/live echos.
The 'STATS' area? But not many systems announce activity their. But
still since a few major mail movers do, you can get a good
impression.
Who is the "official" moderator of this one?
Could be. Although I think there is an other kind of distinction.
ASTRONOMY being more the scientific area, and ASTRONET sounds more
non scientific...
To me ASTRONET sounds more encompassing - as in "NETting" in. So, it could
be anything with ASTR/O as a prefix: astral projections, astrolabs, astrodomes, astrophysics, etc..
Indeed. And deleting everywhere never happens. It takes a very long
time for dead or abondoned echos to disappear, and some never did.
Some even get some live back in them at one point, like this one. ;)
Perhaps sysops can be encouraged to take stock of their echos at least once
a year and drop the dead ones.
Couldn't the EC encourage that as part of standard operations?
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