• if you want a taste of madness, you have to wait in line

    From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.250 to Nancy Backus on Sat Aug 12 03:02:58 2017
    Hey Nancy!

    And has 7.2 been released yet....?

    Nope. Instead they put out a second release candidate which probably means there was something bad in the first release candidate they wanted ironed out first. I'll have to find something else to amuse myself with this weekend. Good thing I am in no rush and hopefully the shiney new gcc will be worth the extra wait. I am guessing it will be.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wed Aug 16 19:24:32 2017
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 12-Aug-2017 03:02 <=-

    And has 7.2 been released yet....?

    Nope. Instead they put out a second release candidate which probably means there was something bad in the first release candidate they
    wanted ironed out first.

    Whatever it was didn't seem to jump out to bite you.... but better to
    catch it before final release... :)

    I'll have to find something else to amuse myself with this weekend.

    And did you...? ;)

    Good thing I am in no rush and hopefully the shiney new gcc will be
    worth the extra wait. I am guessing it will be.

    Probably will be... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.250 to Nancy Backus on Thu Aug 17 03:29:15 2017
    Hey Nancy!

    Whatever it was didn't seem to jump out to bite you

    Actually it sort of did because now I may have to start at the beginning in order to sync the release with everything else. I was hoping to avoid that since the raspberry pi is painfully slow. Good thing I am never in a rush eh?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Fri Aug 18 23:45:48 2017
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 17-Aug-2017 03:29 <=-

    Whatever it was didn't seem to jump out to bite you

    Actually it sort of did because now I may have to start at the
    beginning in order to sync the release with everything else.

    A different issue... but, yeah, that doesn't help either... :)

    I was hoping to avoid that since the raspberry pi is painfully slow.
    Good thing I am never in a rush eh?

    Apparently... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.250 to Nancy Backus on Sat Aug 19 03:30:09 2017
    Hey Nancy!

    that doesn't help either

    Unless one looks at it as a purely learning experience then no it doesn't help.
    Today I find myself back at square one albiet with more experience thanks to failure. :-/

    Good thing I am never in a rush eh?

    Apparently... ;)

    Something like that. As we speak, I am attributing it all to pure stubborness.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wed Aug 23 15:28:34 2017
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 19-Aug-2017 03:30 <=-

    that doesn't help either

    Unless one looks at it as a purely learning experience then no it
    doesn't help. Today I find myself back at square one albiet with more experience thanks to failure. :-/

    Learning experiences aren't all bad... you never know when one will be
    helpful down the line.... ;)

    Good thing I am never in a rush eh?
    Apparently... ;)

    Something like that. As we speak, I am attributing it all to pure stubborness.

    Not necessarily a bad thing that, either... ;) Sometimes that's the
    only way things get accomplished... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.250 to Nancy Backus on Thu Aug 24 00:27:46 2017
    Hey Nancy!

    you never know when one will be helpful down the line

    Agreed, except often one can know when and come up with a plan chock full o' helpfulness. That is my current perspective with respect to this particular brush with a learning experience.

    Sometimes that's the only way things get accomplished... :)

    Sometimes? Not that I have been keeping track, but my hunch is that in my case
    it is probably much higher than a simple majority of attempts at accompilshing things, and perhaps always in the case of accompishments. I might even be tempted to conclude that if it weren't for blind stubborness I probably would have never accomplished anything.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Mon Aug 28 00:23:42 2017
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 24-Aug-2017 00:27 <=-

    you never know when one will be helpful down the line

    Agreed, except often one can know when and come up with a plan chock
    full o' helpfulness. That is my current perspective with respect to
    this particular brush with a learning experience.

    OK, I'll grant you that sometimes past experience gives a clue as to
    what might prove helpful down the line as well... especially when it is
    adding to accumulated knowledge.... :)

    Sometimes that's the only way things get accomplished... :)

    Sometimes? Not that I have been keeping track, but my hunch is that
    in my case it is probably much higher than a simple majority of
    attempts at accompilshing things, and perhaps always in the case of accompishments. I might even be tempted to conclude that if it
    weren't for blind stubborness I probably would have never accomplished anything.

    I suppose a better word might be usually rather than sometimes... ;)
    Once in a while things get accomplished serendipitously as well... <G>
    I'll agree that stubbornness/stick-to-itiveness is often a major factor
    in final success.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Nancy Backus on Mon Aug 28 03:20:29 2017
    Hey Nancy!

    I suppose a better word might be usually rather than sometimes

    That works for me. For the record I am back to working on straight x86_64 systems as I have the best past and present experience with them, especially pure 64 bit boot/roots. So much for stubborness. :-/

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wed Aug 30 18:11:54 2017
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 28-Aug-2017 03:20 <=-

    I suppose a better word might be usually rather than sometimes

    That works for me. For the record I am back to working on straight
    x86_64 systems as I have the best past and present experience with
    them, especially pure 64 bit boot/roots. So much for stubborness.
    :-/

    Except that I'd not expect that you'd never go back to that line of experimentation... the stubborn will kick in, perhaps when you aren't
    expecting it... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.250 to Nancy Backus on Wed Aug 30 20:31:50 2017
    Hey Nancy!

    Except that I'd not expect that you'd never go back to that line
    of experimentation...

    Perhaps. The next time I'll know what to look for in order to get what I want out of it.

    the stubborn will kick in, perhaps when you aren't expecting it

    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition whereas me being stubborn is a given.

    Speaking of 15-year old single malts, I discovered a source for Glenlivet French Oak in Nanaimo I plan to take advantage of soon so that I am better prepared for the event that occurs 124 days from now. A tad pricey but an 18-year old Glenlivet at the local store put it into perspective given it's ~135 CAD price tag. That makes ~80 CAD look far more attractive.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Sat Sep 2 17:18:16 2017
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 30-Aug-2017 20:31 <=-

    Except that I'd not expect that you'd never go back to that line
    of experimentation...

    Perhaps. The next time I'll know what to look for in order to get
    what I want out of it.

    You have the headstart on it already, so to speak.. :)

    Speaking of 15-year old single malts, I discovered a source for
    Glenlivet French Oak in Nanaimo I plan to take advantage of soon so
    that I am better prepared for the event that occurs 124 days from now.
    A tad pricey but an 18-year old Glenlivet at the local store put it
    into perspective given it's ~135 CAD price tag. That makes ~80 CAD
    look far more attractive.

    A Canadian friend in COOKING was recently given an 18yo Glenmorangie... curious, he looked for it, wasn't available where he is, but in Ontario
    it was going for 198 CAD... just to give further perspective.. <G> 80
    CAD for a Glenlivet 15 doesn't sound bad at all... ;) Granted,
    Glenmorangie does tend to be pricier than Glenlivet, but still.. :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.250 to Nancy Backus on Sun Sep 3 03:59:44 2017
    Hey Nancy!

    A Canadian friend in COOKING was recently given an 18yo
    Glenmorangie

    I am jealous. That is definetly out of my league.

    80 CAD for a Glenlivet 15 doesn't sound bad at all

    A whole lot better now that you bring up Glenmorangie. I show a "GLENMORANGIE - 10 YEAR OLD THE ORIGINAL" going for 70 CAD locally so even that tends to be on the pricey side. Definetly eplains why I haven't had any for at least 20 years now. Also not showing any 18 year old Glenmorangie locally so that wouldn't be an option but it does help the 18 year old Glenlivet look more attractive although I am planning to stick with the 15 year old barring any unforseen event getting in it's way.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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    2024-11-05 is 2620 days from now and falls on a Tuesday.
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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Sun Sep 10 22:01:26 2017
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 03-Sep-2017 03:59 <=-

    A Canadian friend in COOKING was recently given an 18yo
    Glenmorangie

    I am jealous. That is definetly out of my league.

    Actually I'm jealous, too.... out of my league as well... as well,
    actually, for my friend, too... the gift was very much appreciated, but
    he'd not likely be getting it on his own....

    80 CAD for a Glenlivet 15 doesn't sound bad at all

    A whole lot better now that you bring up Glenmorangie. I show a "GLENMORANGIE - 10 YEAR OLD THE ORIGINAL" going for 70 CAD locally so
    even that tends to be on the pricey side. Definetly eplains why I
    haven't had any for at least 20 years now. Also not showing any 18
    year old Glenmorangie locally so that wouldn't be an option but it
    does help the 18 year old Glenlivet look more attractive

    Same here... ;) I think that Glenmorangie has always priced higher than Glenlivet, or even the Macallan... It does help keep the others in perspective... ;)

    although I am planning to stick with the 15 year old barring any
    unforseen event getting in it's way.

    Sounds like a good plan.... ;)

    Meanwhile, I've been at a COOKING echo Picnic, this year in MD... one
    of the participants brought a sample pack of Glenmorangie... Original
    10, Sherry cask 12, Port cask 12, and Sauternes cask 12... subtle
    differences between the different casks used for maturing the scotch,
    and all quite acceptable... but not particularly better so that I'd get
    it instead of Glenlivet or Macallan.

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.250 to Nancy Backus on Mon Sep 11 04:47:52 2017
    Hey Nancy!

    the gift was very much appreciated, but he'd not likely be
    getting it on his own....

    That was exactly the same with me and the gifted The Balvenie Single Barrel from days long gone by. That one is definetly listed in my Days of Christmas Past and is highly unlikely to come back to haunt or try to replicate.

    all quite acceptable... but not particularly better so that I'd
    get it instead of Glenlivet or Macallan.

    That is my reasoning as well. Also I have been a faithful fan of Glenlivet all
    these years I see no reason to alter future purchases ... except the 15 year old for the upcoming event in 112 days according to the tagline ... and who knows for sure about the event in 2612 days but my best guess is it will probably get special treatment as well. We'll see.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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    2024-11-05 is 2612 days from now and falls on a Tuesday.
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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Mon Sep 18 00:47:56 2017
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 11-Sep-2017 04:47 <=-

    the gift was very much appreciated, but he'd not likely be
    getting it on his own....
    That was exactly the same with me and the gifted The Balvenie Single Barrel from days long gone by. That one is definetly listed in my
    Days of Christmas Past and is highly unlikely to come back to haunt or
    try to replicate.

    But makes a wonderful memory all the same... :)

    all quite acceptable... but not particularly better so that I'd
    get it instead of Glenlivet or Macallan.

    That is my reasoning as well. Also I have been a faithful fan of Glenlivet all these years I see no reason to alter future purchases
    ... except the 15 year old for the upcoming event in 112 days
    according to the tagline ... and who knows for sure about the event in 2612 days but my best guess is it will probably get special treatment
    as well. We'll see.

    For the sooner event, I'll probably be using my not-that-long-ago
    purchased Macallan 12... unless I still have the leftovers from the Glenmorangie tasting... I've got about a shot plus of the original 10
    and about the same for the port cask 12, iirc.... and an empty bottle
    of the sherry cask 12, which all of us tasting decided was the
    nicest.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.250 to Nancy Backus on Mon Sep 18 15:33:19 2017
    Hey Nancy!

    But makes a wonderful memory all the same...

    No doubt about it.

    I'll probably be using my not-that-long-ago purchased Macallan 12

    A very good choice. Since I lack a reserve the not-too-distant-in-the-future Glenlivet 15 year old French Oak will have to do. Then again I might break down and go for the more local Glenlivet 18 year old although at the moment I certainly don't feel rich enough. Either way my plan is to make it last beyond
    the more recent event which I get a very strong feeling is only 105 days away.
    This time I am going to be prepared and make a bigger deal of it then I did last time ... single-malt-scotch-wise that is. As for the cyber toast app deployment the thingy I am using to reply to your message looks to be the winner. No?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wed Sep 27 15:10:32 2017
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 18-Sep-2017 15:33 <=-

    But makes a wonderful memory all the same...

    No doubt about it.

    And memories are very good things to keep... :)

    I'll probably be using my not-that-long-ago purchased Macallan 12

    A very good choice. Since I lack a reserve the not-too-distant-in-the-future Glenlivet 15 year old French Oak will
    have to do. Then again I might break down and go for the more local Glenlivet 18 year old although at the moment I certainly don't feel
    rich enough. Either way my plan is to make it last beyond the more
    recent event which I get a very strong feeling is only 105 days away.

    Having it last beyond the event is a good idea... gives a bit more
    feeling of justification for having spent the wad on it... ;)

    This time I am going to be prepared and make a bigger deal of it then
    I did last time ... single-malt-scotch-wise that is.

    It makes a good excuse for the splurge, anyway.... :)

    As for the cyber toast app deployment the thingy I am using to reply
    to your message looks to be the winner. No?

    It does do the countdown nicely... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.250 to Nancy Backus on Wed Sep 27 19:39:34 2017
    Hey Nancy!

    Having it last beyond the event is a good idea... gives a bit
    more feeling of justification for having spent the wad on it...

    I have to admit I cheated and had a small taste the other day just to ensure I had done the right thing and it was up to the occasion. I am sure it is, and notably is tastier than the 12 year old, although maybe I have been prejudiced by the extra cost. I don't think so though.

    It makes a good excuse for the splurge

    That is my story and I am sticking to it.

    It does do the countdown nicely

    So far it looks to be accurate although it is set to UTC and not yours or my local time which gives us a few hours to play with. :-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Future cybertoasts of note:
    2018-01-01 is 96 days from now and falls on a Monday.
    2024-11-05 is 2596 days from now and falls on a Tuesday.
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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Fri Sep 29 18:28:46 2017
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 27-Sep-2017 19:39 <=-

    Having it last beyond the event is a good idea... gives a bit
    more feeling of justification for having spent the wad on it...

    I have to admit I cheated and had a small taste the other day just to ensure I had done the right thing and it was up to the occasion. I am sure it is, and notably is tastier than the 12 year old, although
    maybe I have been prejudiced by the extra cost. I don't think so
    though.

    I doubt you've been prejudiced by the extra cost.... having taken part
    in a tasting of multiple year bottles of Glenlivet, the older ones were definitely smoother and nicer than the younger ones... although all were
    nice enough... :)

    It makes a good excuse for the splurge

    That is my story and I am sticking to it.

    Might as well... <G>

    It does do the countdown nicely

    So far it looks to be accurate although it is set to UTC and not yours
    or my local time which gives us a few hours to play with. :-)

    And since the countdown is only in days, not hours or minutes, that is
    indeed accurate enough... ;) Unlikely that you'd be generating a
    message at an hour when the generator is already on the next day, and
    besides, by the time I get the message, we're both there anyway... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.250 to Nancy Backus on Sat Sep 30 04:16:29 2017
    Hey Nancy!

    the older ones were definitely smoother and nicer than the
    younger ones...

    Sounds good to me, especially considering it will be the older one this time around. I almost bought the 18 year old to make up for my mistake of waiting too long last time but I believe I did the right thing this time around. However next time it will probably be the usual 12 year old although there is plenty of time before then to change my mind. Who knows, I may break with tradition and try something different such as an Oban. :-)

    And since the countdown is only in days

    It makes it easier given I am using the standard Unix time in seconds for both the future and the present datetime stamp and then dividing the result by 86400
    seconds/day to obtain the floor (no fractional part) which doesn't need to concern itself with leap seconds and other such oddities. From this angle it appears to be working like a charm although I have yet to come up with special output (tagline) for when there are 0 days. Looks to me like there are 93 days
    left before I *have* to come up with something. I am sure the actual toast msg
    will be done the same way as prior toasts as they kept me pn my toes and were well within seconds of the allocated time.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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    2018-01-01 is 93 days from now and falls on a Monday.
    2024-11-05 is 2593 days from now and falls on a Tuesday.
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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Mon Oct 2 16:41:18 2017
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 30-Sep-2017 04:16 <=-

    the older ones were definitely smoother and nicer than the
    younger ones...

    Sounds good to me, especially considering it will be the older one
    this time around. I almost bought the 18 year old to make up for my mistake of waiting too long last time but I believe I did the right
    thing this time around.

    Probably best to not strain the budget.... :) I suppose you might want
    to consider saving your pennies for the 2024 special cybertoast, and
    maybe get an 18 yo for that one... :)

    However next time it will probably be the
    usual 12 year old although there is plenty of time before then to
    change my mind. Who knows, I may break with tradition and try
    something different such as an Oban. :-)

    I'm sure that by next time, I'll still be on the bottle I just
    purchased... they tend to last me for years... :)

    And since the countdown is only in days

    It makes it easier given I am using the standard Unix time in seconds
    for both the future and the present datetime stamp and then dividing
    the result by 86400 seconds/day to obtain the floor (no fractional
    part) which doesn't need to concern itself with leap seconds and other such oddities. From this angle it appears to be working like a charm

    That it does.. ;)

    although I have yet to come up with special output (tagline) for when there are 0 days. Looks to me like there are 93 days left before I
    *have* to come up with something.

    A little less now, of course... but plenty of time still... :) You'll
    probably come up with something by then... :)

    I am sure the actual toast msg will
    be done the same way as prior toasts as they kept me pn my toes and
    were well within seconds of the allocated time.

    Right... no automation there.... :)

    ttyl neb

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