• amiga

    From poison@1:229/424 to All on Mon May 11 10:15:52 2020
    I am kind of interested in playing with an Amiga. What would be good still usable hardware that would work on the internet?


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  • From Joacim Melin@2:221/242 to poison on Mon May 11 22:37:25 2020
    I am kind of interested in playing with an Amiga. What would be good
    still
    usable hardware that would work on the internet?

    Go for the A1200. Tons of options for expansions and enhancements and it's fairly easy to get it connected to a network.


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  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Joacim Melin on Mon May 11 19:13:56 2020
    Go for the A1200. Tons of options for expansions and enhancements and
    it's fairly easy to get it connected to a network.

    Nice system! Hate it that the prices have shot up to the moon. On the other hand...if anyone can't find any Amiga hardware...there's always WinUAE or
    Amiga Forever. Want bare metal...there's always a RPi 4 with 2 GB with
    Amibian which will make you seem to be running a real Amiga.

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  • From poison@1:229/424 to Joacim Melin on Mon May 11 22:30:00 2020
    Ok thanks for the information!

    Joacim Melin wrote to poison <=-

    I am kind of interested in playing with an Amiga. What would be good
    still
    usable hardware that would work on the internet?

    Go for the A1200. Tons of options for expansions and enhancements and
    it's fairly easy to get it connected to a network.


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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to poison on Tue May 12 13:35:32 2020
    Hi poison!

    11 May 2020 10:15, from poison -> All:

    I am kind of interested in playing with an Amiga. What would be good
    still usable hardware that would work on the internet?

    I have an Amiga 1200 that I connected to the Internet once.
    It has IDE and PCMCIA connectors.

    I used telnet and ftp on it.

    You can use wired Ethernet and WiFi PCMCIA cards.
    You need to have a driver for them.
    There are some supported Ethernet cards and 1 or 2 WiFi cards.

    I think I used a Lucent WiFi card with an OPEN network.
    (I think in the meantime one of the drivers support WPA ???)

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:221/242 to Don Lowery on Tue May 12 17:08:49 2020
    Go for the A1200. Tons of options for expansions and enhancements and
    it's fairly easy to get it connected to a network.

    Nice system! Hate it that the prices have shot up to the moon. On the other
    hand...if anyone can't find any Amiga hardware...there's always
    WinUAE or
    Amiga Forever. Want bare metal...there's always a RPi 4 with 2 GB
    with
    Amibian which will make you seem to be running a real Amiga.

    I also prefer running on real hardware. There are just too many compromises when running a emulated Amiga and also I want the feeling of the Amiga platform, collecting and running those old peripherals that I never could afford as a kid and so on.


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  • From Joacim Melin@2:221/242 to Richard Menedetter on Tue May 12 17:10:47 2020
    Hi poison!

    11 May 2020 10:15, from poison -> All:

    I am kind of interested in playing with an Amiga. What would be good
    still usable hardware that would work on the internet?

    I have an Amiga 1200 that I connected to the Internet once.
    It has IDE and PCMCIA connectors.

    I used telnet and ftp on it.

    You can use wired Ethernet and WiFi PCMCIA cards.
    You need to have a driver for them.
    There are some supported Ethernet cards and 1 or 2 WiFi cards.

    I think I used a Lucent WiFi card with an OPEN network.
    (I think in the meantime one of the drivers support WPA ???)

    I've only used wired cards. There are actually many PCMCIA cards to choose from and many of the 3Com cards from the time works (and Farallon which was based on 3com:s chipset). If nothing else you can always buy a card for like 30 euros (or dollars) complete with the software needed to get going.

    If you go for an older Amiga you can get a ethernet or wifi card for the A2000 (X-Surf-100,
    https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/x-surf-100.html) or the PlipBix for the A500 or any other Amiga
    (http://amigaonthelake.com/amiga-plipbox-parallel-port-ethernet-adapter/).
    The Plipbox is _slow_ but it will at least get you connected to a network and allow you to transfer files via FTP. NFS or SMB is not recommended for that.


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  • From poison@1:229/424 to Joacim Melin on Tue May 12 16:34:00 2020
    I think I agree as I have the Amiga forever emulator and its decent but there is something about have actual hardware.
    Joacim Melin wrote to Don Lowery <=-

    Go for the A1200. Tons of options for expansions and enhancements and
    it's fairly easy to get it connected to a network.

    Nice system! Hate it that the prices have shot up to the moon. On the other
    hand...if anyone can't find any Amiga hardware...there's always
    WinUAE or
    Amiga Forever. Want bare metal...there's always a RPi 4 with 2 GB
    with
    Amibian which will make you seem to be running a real Amiga.

    I also prefer running on real hardware. There are just too many compromises when running a emulated Amiga and also I want the feeling
    of the Amiga platform, collecting and running those old peripherals
    that I never could afford as a kid and so on.


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  • From poison@1:229/424 to Joacim Melin on Tue May 12 16:35:00 2020
    None of the wireless would support anything more than WEP though right?
    Joacim Melin wrote to Richard Menedetter <=-

    Hi poison!

    11 May 2020 10:15, from poison -> All:

    I am kind of interested in playing with an Amiga. What would be good
    still usable hardware that would work on the internet?

    I have an Amiga 1200 that I connected to the Internet once.
    It has IDE and PCMCIA connectors.

    I used telnet and ftp on it.

    You can use wired Ethernet and WiFi PCMCIA cards.
    You need to have a driver for them.
    There are some supported Ethernet cards and 1 or 2 WiFi cards.

    I think I used a Lucent WiFi card with an OPEN network.
    (I think in the meantime one of the drivers support WPA ???)

    I've only used wired cards. There are actually many PCMCIA cards to
    choose from and many of the 3Com cards from the time works (and
    Farallon which was based on 3com:s chipset). If nothing else you can always buy a card for like 30 euros (or dollars) complete with the software needed to get going.

    If you go for an older Amiga you can get a ethernet or wifi card for
    the A2000 (X-Surf-100, https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/x-surf-100.html) or the PlipBix for the A500 or any other Amiga (http://amigaonthelake.com/amiga-plipbox-parallel-port-ethernet-adapter/ ).
    The Plipbox is _slow_ but it will at least get you connected to a
    network and allow you to transfer files via FTP. NFS or SMB is not recommended for that.


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  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Joacim Melin on Wed May 13 07:41:15 2020
    Nice system! Hate it that the prices have shot up to the moon. On the other
    hand...if anyone can't find any Amiga hardware...there's always
    I also prefer running on real hardware. There are just too many compromises when running a emulated Amiga and also I want the feeling of the Amiga platform, collecting and running those old peripherals that I never could afford as a kid and so on.

    I agree 10000%! That's why I got a used ThinkCentre to run Arca on. Spent
    right around $100 to get it & upgrade it.

    I had an Amiga 500 back in the day & wished I'd kept that & got rid of the ex-wife...rather than both of them. Jumping ahead to today...am amazed at the cost of the original machines. Even getting the new PowerPC MB to run Amiga
    on is just as much or more than the original 68K machines.

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  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to poison on Wed May 13 07:45:41 2020
    I think I agree as I have the Amiga forever emulator and its decent but there is something about have actual hardware.

    Got the Amiga/C64 Forever packages. Love them as well...but if I had a chance to buy original hardware for a decent price that I could afford...I would
    jump at it in a heartbeat.

    As soon as I get the BBS running on OS/2-ArcaOS...am looking at setting up
    VICE on the box & running C64 games. With 12 GB of DDR3 memory on that box...shouldn't have any problems at all.

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:221/242 to Don Lowery on Sun May 17 13:07:58 2020
    I think I agree as I have the Amiga forever emulator and its decent but
    there is something about have actual hardware.

    Got the Amiga/C64 Forever packages. Love them as well...but if I had
    a chance
    to buy original hardware for a decent price that I could afford...I
    would
    jump at it in a heartbeat.

    As soon as I get the BBS running on OS/2-ArcaOS...am looking at
    setting up
    VICE on the box & running C64 games. With 12 GB of DDR3 memory on
    that
    box...shouldn't have any problems at all.

    If you where in my country (Sweden) I would just give you one of my working A500's. I have several collecting dust that where given to me for free and as a rule I never sell things that are given to me.


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  • From Joacim Melin@2:221/242 to poison on Sun May 17 13:09:13 2020
    None of the wireless would support anything more than WEP though
    right?
    Joacim Melin wrote to Richard Menedetter <=-

    Hi poison!

    11 May 2020 10:15, from poison -> All:

    I am kind of interested in playing with an Amiga. What would be good
    still usable hardware that would work on the internet?

    I have an Amiga 1200 that I connected to the Internet once.
    It has IDE and PCMCIA connectors.

    I used telnet and ftp on it.

    You can use wired Ethernet and WiFi PCMCIA cards.
    You need to have a driver for them.
    There are some supported Ethernet cards and 1 or 2 WiFi cards.

    I think I used a Lucent WiFi card with an OPEN network.
    (I think in the meantime one of the drivers support WPA ???)

    I've only used wired cards. There are actually many PCMCIA cards to
    choose from and many of the 3Com cards from the time works (and
    Farallon which was based on 3com:s chipset). If nothing else you can
    always buy a card for like 30 euros (or dollars) complete with the
    software needed to get going.

    If you go for an older Amiga you can get a ethernet or wifi card for
    the A2000 (X-Surf-100,
    https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/x-surf-100.html) or the
    PlipBix for the A500 or any other Amiga
    (http://amigaonthelake.com/amiga-plipbox-parallel-port-ethernet-adapter/
    ).
    The Plipbox is _slow_ but it will at least get you connected to a
    network and allow you to transfer files via FTP. NFS or SMB is not
    recommended for that.

    Dunno to be honest. Haven't touched Wifi-stuff for the Amiga for many, many years. There are also wifi modems for the C64/128 that actually works with WPA so I suppose it's not entirely impossible that WPA would work with the Amiga.


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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Joacim Melin on Sun May 17 13:53:28 2020
    Hi Joacim!

    17 May 2020 13:09, from Joacim Melin -> poison:

    There are also wifi modems for the C64/128 that actually works with
    WPA so I suppose it's not entirely impossible that WPA would work with
    the Amiga.

    The WiModem is simply an ESP8266 connected to the user port (serial).
    It communicates with AT commands (interpreter runs on the ESP).

    If you want to have a TCP stack on the Amiga a PCMCIA solution makes more sense.

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  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Joacim Melin on Sun May 17 08:41:02 2020
    If you where in my country (Sweden) I would just give you one of my working A500's. I have several collecting dust that where given to me
    for free and as a rule I never sell things that are given to me.

    Was watching an American living in Sweden the other day on You Tube. I WISH I was there!

    I do appreciate this! Not sure if I mentioned...but I had my 500 when I was married & wished I would've kept the Amiga...sold the wife. ;)

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Don Lowery on Mon May 18 06:10:00 2020
    Don Lowery wrote to Joacim Melin <=-

    If you where in my country (Sweden) I would just give you one of my working A500's. I have several collecting dust that where given to me
    for free and as a rule I never sell things that are given to me.

    Was watching an American living in Sweden the other day on You Tube. I WISH I was there!

    I do appreciate this! Not sure if I mentioned...but I had my 500 when I was married & wished I would've kept the Amiga...sold the wife. ;)

    If you do get the Euro model you'll need a USA compatible power supply.
    Back in the day I replace the Commode Door brick with a salvaged PSU from
    an original IBM-PC. Anyone with basic soldering skills can do the same.

    All you need is the square plug from an Amiga or C-128 (and the bricks are
    NOT the same even though the plugs are compatible) and a working power
    supply from an old desktop confuser. There was and probably still is a
    pin out of both on the web - probably even a complete how-to article
    and/or video ..... and the PC power supply has the advantage of being fan cooled so it should live forever in a low current application like an
    A-500.

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  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Dave Drum on Mon May 18 06:42:49 2020
    If you do get the Euro model you'll need a USA compatible power supply. Back in the day I replace the Commode Door brick with a salvaged PSU from an original IBM-PC. Anyone with basic soldering skills can do the same.

    As much as I would love to be able to have it shipped over here...with the
    way the economy is right now with the orange ID10T running the show...gotta keep money socked away just in case. It's a dream alright...but have to
    temper my needs with my wants.

    Who knows...may be able to do this when things settle down.

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