• bug report

    From Ward Dossche@2:292/854.1 to All on Fri Mar 16 07:45:23 2018
    When I send email today Aftershock creates an archive named 01240356.fr0. That's fine.

    However, when I send more echomail later, Aftershock "AGAIN" creates an archive
    named 01240356.fr0.

    I think the extension should be 'fr1'.

    Ward

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  • From Rudi Timmermans@2:292/140 to Ward Dossche on Fri Mar 16 16:06:08 2018
    Hi Ward,

    When I send email today Aftershock creates an archive named 01240356.fr0. However, when I send more echomail later, Aftershock "AGAIN" creates an archive named 01240356.fr0.

    What version do you use the lasted beta i have send you ?

    Greetings,
    Rudi

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Fri Mar 16 11:16:26 2018
    On 2018 Mar 16 07:45:22, you wrote to All:

    When I send email today Aftershock creates an archive named
    01240356.fr0. That's fine.

    However, when I send more echomail later, Aftershock "AGAIN" creates
    an archive named 01240356.fr0.

    that's not a bug... that's by design...

    I think the extension should be 'fr1'.

    only if fr0 still exists and has been truncated instead of deleted...

    that's normal for FTN software...

    truncate sent -> increment next bundle extension
    delete sent -> same extension since we don't know the last one


    )\/(ark

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  • From Rudi Timmermans@2:292/140 to Ward Dossche on Fri Mar 16 17:58:29 2018
    Hi Ward,

    I think the extension should be 'fr1'.

    Here is Anatoly his reply on this.

    I decided to leave behavior as is since many tossers work in that way
    fr0 will be created again only if first bundle was sent and removed locally


    ---
    Best regards,
    Rudi Timmermans.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/02/28 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: X-TReMe BBS (2:292/140)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Ward Dossche on Fri Mar 16 22:08:34 2018
    Hello Ward!

    16 Mar 2018 07:45, Ward Dossche wrote to All:

    When I send email today Aftershock creates an archive named
    01240356.fr0. That's fine.

    However, when I send more echomail later, Aftershock "AGAIN" creates
    an archive named 01240356.fr0.

    I think the extension should be 'fr1'.

    no, if you still have the fr0 unsent it should

    if no fr0 or fr1, it should create a news unixtime stamped filename

    MSDOS is not a BSO outbound :=)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Rudi Timmermans on Fri Mar 16 22:12:02 2018
    Hello Rudi!

    16 Mar 2018 17:58, Rudi Timmermans wrote to Ward Dossche:

    I decided to leave behavior as is since many tossers work in that way
    fr0 will be created again only if first bundle was sent and removed locally

    what will tossers do then on dupe ?

    we should NOT assume its tossed on each delivery !


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/4.9.76-gentoo-r1 (i686))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Rudi Timmermans@2:292/140 to Benny Pedersen on Fri Mar 16 22:49:16 2018
    Hi Benny,

    what will tossers do then on dupe ?
    we should NOT assume its tossed on each delivery !

    Till now i dont have a problem with it... And as far i know no one hase have made a report of it on bad tossing.
    But i talked with Anatoly and he told me that this can be changed like to fr1 etc.... But now we working on the adressbook when this would be ready this problem can solved then if it would be a problem.


    ---
    Best regards,
    Rudi Timmermans.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/02/28 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: X-TReMe BBS (2:292/140)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Sat Mar 17 09:59:16 2018
    On 2018 Mar 16 17:58:28, Rudi Timmermans wrote to you:

    I think the extension should be 'fr1'.

    Here is Anatoly his reply on this.

    I decided to leave behavior as is since many tossers work in that way
    fr0 will be created again only if first bundle was sent and removed
    locally

    that corrosponds with the DFS (Delete File Sent) mechanism available for use in
    FTN software...

    the other mechanism is TFS (Truncate File Sent) which results in the extension being incremented and then the truncated file is removed...

    check your dBridge... there is most likely an option to "delete files when sent" or to "truncate files when sent"... set it to "delete" and you can mimic the aftershock behavoir ;)

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Benny Pedersen on Sat Mar 17 09:53:20 2018
    On 2018 Mar 16 22:12:02, you wrote to Rudi Timmermans:

    I decided to leave behavior as is since many tossers work in that way
    fr0 will be created again only if first bundle was sent and removed
    locally

    what will tossers do then on dupe ?

    on a duplicate named mail bundle?

    we should NOT assume its tossed on each delivery !

    this is exactly why /mailers/ increment file extensions when they receive a duplicate named file with different contents... so the answer to your question above is "nothing" since the tosser should not see two files of the same name in the same directory at the same time... if the mailer overwrites the existing
    file with a new one of different contents, you may have a problem to solve...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854.1 to mark lewis on Tue Mar 20 21:53:09 2018
    check your dBridge... there is most likely an option to "delete files when sent" or to "truncate files when sent"... set it to "delete" and you can mimic the aftershock behavoir ;)

    Hasn't it occurred to you yet that after 30 years in Fido I do know a couple of
    things?

    Are you an aftershock user? No?

    Ward
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