• Re: QWK Readers for FreeB

    From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Sun Aug 30 00:29:00 2020
    I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too
    >annoying for people around me, and on calls.

    Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?
    I wasn't sure what the Model-M keyboards were so I checked online and they may be similar to what I use. The Model M keyboards were made by Unicomp and by Maxiswitch (and one other) over the years. The keyboard I am typing this on, which I have used since about 1993, is a Maxiswitch manufactured in 1991.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Rob Mccart on Mon Aug 31 00:32:48 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Rob Mccart to TRACKER1 on Sun Aug 30 2020 12:29 am

    I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too
    annoying for people around me, and on calls.

    Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?
    I wasn't sure what the Model-M keyboards were so I checked online and they

    no they let out fart smells. of course it's the sound
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 31 11:53:00 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Sat Aug 29 2020 07:39 am

    Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too annoying for people around me, and on calls. Now I'm mostly using das keyboards w/ cherry mx brown switches. I've got a couple generic brown keyboards, but most of the generics no longer use real browns and they don't feel quite right.

    Preach. I have a model M that's been with me since 1991, and can't use
    it in the house; my home office is right off of the main television
    room.

    I have a chiclet keyboard on my desktop now, think I've been turned by
    the new laptop keyboards. I should find a quieter mechanical keyboard;
    I've just gotten spoiled by wireless keyboards and haven't found a
    wireless mechanical keyboard (yet).



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    I used to work with someone who would bring his own keyboard to work. He had one with the old big DIN connector and a ps/2 adapter. The Dell workstations we had still supported ps/2 ports. I was curious as to when he would have to switch to a usb adapter, however I think he would've been ready to retire at that point.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Rob Mccart on Mon Aug 31 17:55:51 2020
    On 8/29/2020 9:29 PM, Rob Mccart wrote:
    I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too
    annoying for people around me, and on calls.

    Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?

    Yeah, the buckling springs are particularly clicky. People were
    generally polite about it, but it's been clear on more than one
    occassion that people didn't like the sound.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Moondog on Mon Aug 31 18:15:13 2020
    On 8/31/2020 8:53 AM, Moondog wrote:

    I used to work with someone who would bring his own keyboard to work. He had one with the old big DIN connector and a ps/2 adapter. The Dell workstations we had still supported ps/2 ports. I was curious as to when he would have to switch to a usb adapter, however I think he would've been ready to retire at that point.

    May have been able to use a din->ps/2->usb adapter, but may have needed
    a usb power injector... I've had that issue before when using a kvm.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Tue Sep 1 08:14:52 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 31 2020 11:53 am

    I used to work with someone who would bring his own keyboard to work. He had one with the old big DIN connector and a ps/2 adapter. The Dell workstations we had still supported ps/2 ports. I was curious as to when he would have to switch to a usb adapter, however I think he would've been ready to retire at that point.

    One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work, because he was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Tue Sep 1 14:37:00 2020
    I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too
    annoying for people around me, and on calls.

    Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?

    Yeah, the buckling springs are particularly clicky. People were
    generally polite about it, but it's been clear on more than one
    occassion that people didn't like the sound.

    Can't you just mute your mic when you are not talking?


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Tue Sep 1 14:39:00 2020
    One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work, because h
    was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..

    One of my co-workers uses one of those, too, and their background is not in
    IT. It is one of our users. I had always associated Dvorak to older programmers but I guess I am wrong as she is not a programmer and is < 50.


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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to Nightfox on Tue Sep 1 21:40:07 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue Sep 01 2020 08:14 am

    I used to work with someone who would bring his own keyboard to
    work. He had one with the old big DIN connector and a ps/2 adapter.

    One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work, because he was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..

    For quite some time I used my own ergonomic keyboard and trackball at work until they decided to pay for (nicer) replacements.

    Hatton

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Tracker1 on Tue Sep 1 21:41:33 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Tracker1 to Rob Mccart on Mon Aug 31 2020 05:55 pm

    On 8/29/2020 9:29 PM, Rob Mccart wrote:
    I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too
    annoying for people around me, and on calls.

    Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?

    Yeah, the buckling springs are particularly clicky. People were
    generally polite about it, but it's been clear on more than one
    occassion that people didn't like the sound.

    I had a co-worker who was very verbal about preference for model-M's and he brought like 3 of them in and put them on his desk. He plugged one in and started typing. Everybody in the office got to hear him type at like 10 words a minute. I was like, Dude, if you're gonna have a loud keyboard, learn to type!

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 1 22:30:24 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Tue Sep 01 2020 02:39 pm

    One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work,
    because h was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..

    One of my co-workers uses one of those, too, and their background is not in IT. It is one of our users. I had always associated Dvorak to older programmers but I guess I am wrong as she is not a programmer and is < 50.

    The guy I knew who used the Dvorak keyboard was maybe around 25 years old at the time.

    I had heard the Dvorak keyboard was supposed to be faster to type on, and that the QWERTY keyboard was designed to be slower for typing to prevent typewriter arms from jamming, but I've since heard that isn't really true.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 1 22:38:41 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Dumas Walker to TRACKER1 on Tue Sep 01 2020 02:37 pm

    I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're
    too annoying for people around me, and on calls.

    Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?

    Yeah, the buckling springs are particularly clicky. People were
    generally polite about it, but it's been clear on more than one
    occassion that people didn't like the sound.

    Can't you just mute your mic when you are not talking?

    At one of my last jobs, there were often online meetings with many people in different offices. Sometimes they had to ask people to mute their mic (or just mute everyone except the speaker) due to all the noise coming through many peoples' mics. It would often be a combination of typing, people eating things, people talking to other people near their computer, and/or various other noises.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Tue Sep 1 22:39:41 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Digital Man to Tracker1 on Tue Sep 01 2020 09:41 pm

    I had a co-worker who was very verbal about preference for model-M's and he brought like 3 of them in and put them on his desk. He plugged one in and started typing. Everybody in the office got to hear him type at like 10 words a minute. I was like, Dude, if you're gonna have a loud keyboard, learn to type!

    I'm not a fan of people being loud in general, so I'm not really a big fan of those keyboards. I tend to prefer a quiet keyboard for myself too..

    Nightfox

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Wed Sep 2 12:24:16 2020
    On 9/1/2020 11:37 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:

    Can't you just mute your mic when you are not talking?

    1. doesn't help with they guy in the next desk/cube over.
    2. There are times where I'm literally talking and typing. Quite a lot actually.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Wed Sep 2 12:29:38 2020
    On 9/1/2020 10:39 PM, Nightfox wrote:
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Digital Man to Tracker1 on Tue Sep 01 2020 09:41 pm

    I had a co-worker who was very verbal about preference for model-M's and
    he brought like 3 of them in and put them on his desk. He plugged one in
    and started typing. Everybody in the office got to hear him type at like
    10 words a minute. I was like, Dude, if you're gonna have a loud keyboard, >> learn to type!

    I'm not a fan of people being loud in general, so I'm not really a big fan of those keyboards. I tend to prefer a quiet keyboard for myself too..

    That's mainly why I switched to Cherry MX Brown keyboards. I really
    prefer the feel of the model-m style buckling spring keys more than
    anything. It's just a unique key travel that's hard to emulate. It can
    be annoying though...

    On typing, my daughter had a party and I was up in the loft typing, and apparently people thought I was just goofing around as they didn't
    believe you could type that fast. I'd be surprised if I hit over 100wpm anymore though.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Tracker1 on Wed Sep 2 13:07:08 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 02 2020 12:29 pm

    On typing, my daughter had a party and I was up in the loft typing, and apparently people thought I was just goofing around as they didn't believe you could type that fast. I'd be surprised if I hit over 100wpm anymore though.

    One of my nephews also thought that of me when he was maybe 5 or 6 years old. I tend to type fairly fast, and he thought I was just typing gibberish on my PC because I was typing so fast.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Wed Sep 2 14:04:17 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Sep 01 2020 10:39 pm

    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Digital Man to Tracker1 on Tue Sep 01 2020 09:41 pm

    I had a co-worker who was very verbal about preference for model-M's and he brought like 3 of them in and put them on his desk. He plugged one in and started typing. Everybody in the office got to hear him type at like 10 words a minute. I was like, Dude, if you're gonna have a loud keyboard, learn to type!

    I'm not a fan of people being loud in general, so I'm not really a big fan of those keyboards. I tend to prefer a quiet keyboard for myself too..

    Me too. Working from home has been nice in that regard as I can (usually) have a nice and quiet environment in which to work.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Wed Sep 2 16:08:46 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 01 2020 10:30 pm

    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Tue Sep 01 2020 02:39 pm

    One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work,
    because h was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..

    One of my co-workers uses one of those, too, and their background is no in IT. It is one of our users. I had always associated Dvorak to older programmers but I guess I am wrong as she is not a programmer and is <

    The guy I knew who used the Dvorak keyboard was maybe around 25 years old at the time.

    I had heard the Dvorak keyboard was supposed to be faster to type on, and th the QWERTY keyboard was designed to be slower for typing to prevent typewrit arms from jamming, but I've since heard that isn't really true.

    Nightfox


    What I have heard is that QWERTY got popular because a typewriter operator won a writing speed contest with one or something like that, but I have no verification for such claim.

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Fri Sep 4 00:20:00 2020
    What I have heard is that QWERTY got popular because a typewriter operator wo
    >a writing speed contest with one or something like that, but I have no
    >verification for such claim.

    As I understand it, the QWERTY setup was chosen to slow down certain common
    key combinations which caused old style type writers to jam. The setup was not the easiest or fastest for the typists but it helped reduce those key-jams. Then we all got used to it so it was never changed.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Digital Man on Thu Sep 3 07:23:00 2020
    Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Me too. Working from home has been nice in that regard as I can
    (usually) have a nice and quiet environment in which to work.


    Working in open office plans has prepared me well for the noise of
    working in a house with a 10-year old aspiring singer. Who. Sings.
    All. The. Time.

    I have a nice USB headset and about 8 hours of ambient music I've
    listened to while working since 2001.



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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 5 22:29:23 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Thu Sep 03 2020 07:23 am

    Working in open office plans has prepared me well for the noise of
    working in a house with a 10-year old aspiring singer. Who. Sings.
    All. The. Time.

    My singer just went off to college for Music Therapy.

    My future NERF engineer is a high school sophomore... and I have to hear about every mod he wants to implement on his arsenal.

    We learn how to cope :)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 5 18:54:17 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Thu Sep 03 2020 07:23 am

    Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Me too. Working from home has been nice in that regard as I can
    (usually) have a nice and quiet environment in which to work.


    Working in open office plans has prepared me well for the noise of
    working in a house with a 10-year old aspiring singer. Who. Sings.
    All. The. Time.

    build a sound proof 'recording studio' for them to sing in
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  • From Nugax@VERT/BYTEXCHG to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 23 08:46:16 2020
    Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Thu Sep 03 2020 07:23 am


    Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Me too. Working from home has been nice in that regard as I can
    (usually) have a nice and quiet environment in which to work.


    Working in open office plans has prepared me well for the noise of
    working in a house with a 10-year old aspiring singer. Who. Sings.
    All. The. Time.

    I have a nice USB headset and about 8 hours of ambient music I've
    listened to while working since 2001.

    I have worked from home since 2010. I cannot stand working from home!

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