• Running linux in vm on linux box

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to All on Thu Jul 12 19:11:44 2018
    I have a few questions about running a linux distro in a vm on a linux box. I have read up about how to get Ethernet working over a bridge, but have not yet got to installing the system, etc.

    (1) When the qemu session is running, is it smart to use the xserver on the vm instance? If I am not using the xserver and running the vm instance in console mode, will qemu catch certain keystrokes like ctrl-alt-2 so I can switch to tty2 (for example) or will that keystroke combo be interpreted by the host machine?

    (2) If I can follow the directions and get the Ethernet bride working correctly, so that the network can see both the host and vm, I assume I can also do things like mount nfs shares in the vm. Is that a correct assumption?

    (3) Will I be able to access other hardware while in the vm, like a usb port and whatever might be connected to it?

    I have run DOS in a vm on a linux box, but I expect this to be different. :)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Fri Jul 13 09:30:22 2018
    Re: Running linux in vm on linux box
    By: Dumas Walker to All on Thu Jul 12 2018 07:11 pm

    I have a few questions about running a linux distro in a vm on a linux box. I have read up about how to get Ethernet working over a bridge, but have not yet got to installing the system, etc.

    (1) When the qemu session is running, is it smart to use the xserver on

    I don't have experience with qemu, but I've used VMWare and VirtualBox and I think both work well.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Fri Jul 13 16:10:14 2018
    Re: Running linux in vm on linux box
    By: Dumas Walker to All on Thu Jul 12 2018 07:11 pm

    I have a few questions about running a linux distro in a vm on a linux box. I have read up about how to get Ethernet working over a bridge, but have not yet got to installing the system, etc.


    hey, stop right now and run proxmox
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Sat Jul 14 09:59:16 2018
    Re: Running linux in vm on linux box
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Fri Jul 13 2018 04:10 pm

    hey, stop right now and run proxmox

    It sounds like he's trying to run a Linux VM on top of an already working linux system. why would you suggest he wipe his system and install a specialized hypervisor like Promoxox?

    Proxmox is great if you want to run a bunch of VMs, but you can't do much on the bare system other than manage those VMs.

    DaiTengu


    Mike

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  • From The Darkener@VERT/BACKWOOD to Nightfox on Mon Sep 3 15:26:08 2018
    Re: Running linux in vm on linux box
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Fri Jul 13 2018 09:30 am

    I don't have experience with qemu, but I've used VMWare and VirtualBox and I think both work well.

    I've used qemu/kvm/libvirt for many years. I wouldn't say I'm an expert (it "just works" since I set it up) but I really enjoy it.

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  • From The Darkener@VERT/BACKWOOD to DaiTengu on Mon Sep 3 15:28:04 2018
    Re: Running linux in vm on linux box
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Sat Jul 14 2018 09:59 am

    hey, stop right now and run proxmox

    I was really into Proxmox until I realized their pricing model and what proxmox actually is in comparison to running the bare services on your server. They have a wonderful web UI but if you're looking to scale, look to give them money for each CPU you license AFAIR.

    -= The Darkener =-

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to The Darkener on Sun Sep 30 16:30:05 2018
    Re: Running linux in vm on linux box
    By: The Darkener to DaiTengu on Mon Sep 03 2018 03:28 pm

    I was really into Proxmox until I realized their pricing model and what proxmox actually is in comparison to running the bare services on your server. They have a wonderful web UI but if you're looking to scale, look to give them money for each CPU you license AFAIR.


    Proxmox is free to use. Without the community license (about $93 per year, per physical cpu socket), you simply don't get access to actual support or their update repository, so all updates have to be done manually.

    It's dirt cheap when compared to something like Citrix XenServer, VMWare, or any of the other enterprise virtualization products.

    The less you pay for a hypervisor, the more work you have to do to do things. Stuff like VMWare and XenServer can be single-click deploy systems. While other stuff like KVM with ovirt on Linux requires a fair amount of tinkering to get everything running just right.

    (I run VM clusters as part of my day job, we recently moved from Proxmox to Xen because management is stupid and likes to waste money)

    DaiTengu

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to DaiTengu on Mon Oct 15 15:45:56 2018
    Proxmox is free to use. Without the community license (about $93 per
    year, per physical cpu socket), you simply don't get access to actual support or their update repository, so all updates have to be done
    manually.


    I've been using promox free for years now. Actually i'm talking to you trough my bbs that's been running in bridged mode on promox since 2015. No glitch.

    it's really a great platform and great for the person that want to experiment. My Tradewar game server is also a vm on promox, so it's flexible the bbs run under linux ubuntu and the tradewars in windows.

    SO i can attest that like you that it work well.

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