• Re: This strange world

    From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Mon Aug 17 16:56:05 2020
    Re: Re: This strange world
    By: Tracker1 to Digital Man on Mon Aug 17 2020 03:15 am


    At home, I have the charger directly a usb + hdmi through my kvm at my desk, which does good enough. I'm using a single large monitor so it works well enough for my use lately.


    so you have a huge display right? i was going to do that but i was leary.

    what specs do i need to look for so i can do desktop computing and gaming.
    i want everything clear like a smaller display
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dennisk on Tue Aug 18 08:21:00 2020
    On 08-17-20 21:59, Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I just found that I stil have yum installed!

    Haha is it actual yum or a symlink to dnf?

    Yeah, the availability of apt repos and version specificity has
    definitely kept me in the Debian camp in recent years.

    Perhaps not worth moving on for you then?

    At this time, no, but if there's something I intend to use heavily that requires Red Hat/Fedora, or at least strongly prefers a RH flavoured distro, then I will seriously consider Fedora over CentOS.


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  • From Dennisk to Vk3jed on Tue Aug 18 21:15:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Dennisk <=-

    On 08-17-20 21:59, Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I just found that I stil have yum installed!

    Haha is it actual yum or a symlink to dnf?

    It's a symlink to dnf!

    Yeah, the availability of apt repos and version specificity has
    definitely kept me in the Debian camp in recent years.

    Perhaps not worth moving on for you then?

    At this time, no, but if there's something I intend to use heavily that requires Red Hat/Fedora, or at least strongly prefers a RH flavoured distro, then I will seriously consider Fedora over CentOS.

    Cool. If any questions, let me know.

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  • From Atroxi@VERT to calcmandan on Thu Aug 13 20:57:00 2020
    calcmandan wrote to Atroxi <=-

    Atroxi wrote to calcmandan <=-

    Yeah, that... religious war can be pretty rough sometimes. I also
    prefer not to get myself involved in any zealotry when it comes to text editors. I always take the stance that: "I use what works for me!" and leave it at that.

    Yeah. Surprisingly, there was never a similar debate on wysiwyg editors
    in the html web days. I suppose those days didn't last long enough.

    Daniel Traechin

    Yup, probably. Imagine some emacs and vim guys have been duking it out since the 80s, that's intergenerational warfare I tell you. Haha!

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dennisk on Wed Aug 19 13:32:00 2020
    On 08-18-20 21:15, Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Haha is it actual yum or a symlink to dnf?

    It's a symlink to dnf!

    Haha that'll definitely work. :D

    At this time, no, but if there's something I intend to use heavily that requires Red Hat/Fedora, or at least strongly prefers a RH flavoured distro, then I will seriously consider Fedora over CentOS.

    Cool. If any questions, let me know.

    OK, will do. I'm pretty distro agnostic, it depends more on the workload than anything else. :)


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  • From Atroxi@VERT to Dennisk on Tue Aug 18 22:02:00 2020
    Dennisk wrote to Atroxi <=-

    Atroxi wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Dennisk wrote to MRO <=-

    MRO wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Re: Re: Linux
    By: Dennisk to MRO on Mon Aug 10 2020 08:50 pm

    boot things out the window far too often.

    why is windows so hard for you? they designed it so even idiots wont
    have problems with it. ---

    Idiots may not have problems with it, but anyone who isn't one, will.


    if someone is smart enough, they will be smart enough not to have problems. ---

    I don't think it works quite like that. Some people are too smart, and end up creating problems they didn't need to.

    Yeah, I remember years ago when I really wanted to customize the crap
    out of the Windows 7 box, with all those custom aero stuff and
    aesthetic stuff that only a nerd teenager would care about. I went into
    a dive of modifying system files to the point of breaking my system
    just because I wanted to change the way it works. Then, I found
    GNU/Linux and it blew my mind how I can actually build a custom system from the ground up instead of stripping one away and making it custom (though still not quite).

    Being able to compile the kernel, and choose what goes into it was something that surprised me. It was one of the first things I tried to customise! (After selecting the window manager I wanted). I borked the system a few times, but my compiled kernel did run faster and leaner.
    I mostly customize the GUI (I use FVWM, which allows for some heavy customisation, more than any other WM I've used), the shell,
    streamlining things, and changing some niggly defaults that don't suit
    me and adding things I think are missing (like a shutdown/reboot
    button) on the XDM login screen, disabling pulseaudio, adding the -CK kernel patch, adding scripts, etc,

    Oh yes. What a thrill doing something like that is. A few months ago I dived head-first into Gentoo and suddenly a whole world of customization was opened to me. I never imagined how these small tweaks would actually be beneficial on the long run but it did. Sadly, the amount of time compiling packages really took a toll on me, haha! And I feel like I'm not yet smart enough to deal with stuff or maybe I'm just lazy to give up a weekend to just learn the stuff.

    Right now I've pretty much integrated my whole setup around using bspwm and terminal applications. It's surprising to me actually how little that I need to have to be able to use my computer productively (or not, haha!). Most of the time I'm just writing stuff and that's done through vim and I either compile it to LaTeX or groff. Other than that, most of the stuff that I have are scripts that I wrote to manage the system's functions like using dmenu as a power menu, display menu, mount menu, etc. I think right now the only thing that I'm missing is the ability to do spreadsheets, and while libreoffice does that I would like to do spreadsheets in the commandline.

    occasionally using my own copy of a binary instead of the distro one
    (I try to avoid this, because its a headache during updates).

    Oh man. It IS a pain.

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  • From Dennisk to Atroxi on Mon Aug 24 21:55:00 2020
    Atroxi wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Dennisk wrote to Atroxi <=-

    Atroxi wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Dennisk wrote to MRO <=-

    MRO wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Re: Re: Linux
    By: Dennisk to MRO on Mon Aug 10 2020 08:50 pm

    boot things out the window far too often.

    why is windows so hard for you? they designed it so even idiots wont
    have problems with it. ---

    Idiots may not have problems with it, but anyone who isn't one, will.


    if someone is smart enough, they will be smart enough not to have problems. ---

    I don't think it works quite like that. Some people are too smart, and end up creating problems they didn't need to.

    Yeah, I remember years ago when I really wanted to customize the crap
    out of the Windows 7 box, with all those custom aero stuff and
    aesthetic stuff that only a nerd teenager would care about. I went into
    a dive of modifying system files to the point of breaking my system
    just because I wanted to change the way it works. Then, I found
    GNU/Linux and it blew my mind how I can actually build a custom system from the ground up instead of stripping one away and making it custom (though still not quite).

    Being able to compile the kernel, and choose what goes into it was something that surprised me. It was one of the first things I tried to customise! (After selecting the window manager I wanted). I borked the system a few times, but my compiled kernel did run faster and leaner.
    I mostly customize the GUI (I use FVWM, which allows for some heavy customisation, more than any other WM I've used), the shell,
    streamlining things, and changing some niggly defaults that don't suit
    me and adding things I think are missing (like a shutdown/reboot
    button) on the XDM login screen, disabling pulseaudio, adding the -CK kernel patch, adding scripts, etc,

    Oh yes. What a thrill doing something like that is. A few months ago I dived head-first into Gentoo and suddenly a whole world of
    customization was opened to me. I never imagined how these small tweaks would actually be beneficial on the long run but it did. Sadly, the
    amount of time compiling packages really took a toll on me, haha! And I feel like I'm not yet smart enough to deal with stuff or maybe I'm just lazy to give up a weekend to just learn the stuff.

    Right now I've pretty much integrated my whole setup around using bspwm and terminal applications. It's surprising to me actually how little
    that I need to have to be able to use my computer productively (or not, haha!). Most of the time I'm just writing stuff and that's done through vim and I either compile it to LaTeX or groff. Other than that, most of the stuff that I have are scripts that I wrote to manage the system's functions like using dmenu as a power menu, display menu, mount menu,
    etc. I think right now the only thing that I'm missing is the ability
    to do spreadsheets, and while libreoffice does that I would like to do spreadsheets in the commandline.

    occasionally using my own copy of a binary instead of the distro one
    (I try to avoid this, because its a headache during updates).

    Oh man. It IS a pain.

    I like groff/nroff. I have some reports that I generate, and instead of using Office productivity programs, I write a program in D to parse some CSV files, and some text explanations I put in two text files, and insert the results of the CSV files as tables into a groff template. (Its a financial report). All I then have to do, is fill in a couple of CSV files, download two more, type text comments in two files, and run a script, and I have a formatted PDF report.

    Another one I do, I did in Open Office, but I found it fidgety (and awkward). So again, a simple CSV file or two, gnuplot and groff, and the report is generated, a PDF with a report and graphs and tables. Sure, it took longer to set up, but once done, I generate the reports in no time. Consistently and fast. In the long run, I save time. If there is some other function I need, I can quickly write it up in the programming language of my choice (or use the unix tools).

    FVWM makes things even easiser, as that Window Manager has its own scripting language and ability to create forms, so I can generate these with a keypress from my Window Manager, bringing up a form, where I can fill a few details to enter.

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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Atroxi on Sat Aug 22 18:25:00 2020
    Atroxi wrote to calcmandan <=-

    calcmandan wrote to Atroxi <=-

    Atroxi wrote to calcmandan <=-

    Yeah, that... religious war can be pretty rough sometimes. I also
    prefer not to get myself involved in any zealotry when it comes to text editors. I always take the stance that: "I use what works for me!" and leave it at that.

    Yeah. Surprisingly, there was never a similar debate on wysiwyg editors
    in the html web days. I suppose those days didn't last long enough.

    Daniel Traechin

    Yup, probably. Imagine some emacs and vim guys have been duking it out since the 80s, that's intergenerational warfare I tell you. Haha!

    It's the crusades of the computer world. Just imagine if there was a competitor to the abacus.

    Daniel Traechin

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Tue Sep 8 00:57:45 2020
    Re: Steam DRM
    By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Aug 05 2020 09:11 pm

    I dont think many people actually have fiber. i have to use spectrum which is only like 10MB down and 2MB up. sucks.

    I have Spectrum cable here and it's pretty good (200MB down, 10MB up). It's their cheapest business tier which is required if you want static IP addresses. I think it costs me $79 a month.

    digital man

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Tue Sep 8 17:15:16 2020
    Re: Steam DRM
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Sep 08 2020 12:57 am

    Re: Steam DRM
    By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Aug 05 2020 09:11 pm

    I dont think many people actually have fiber. i have to use spectrum
    which is only like 10MB down and 2MB up. sucks.

    I have Spectrum cable here and it's pretty good (200MB down, 10MB up). It's their cheapest business tier which is required if you want static IP addresses. I think it costs me $79 a month.

    over by me they took over from timewarner so they have their infrastructure. we've always had static ips. i could probably get faster speeds if i use
    my cable modem.
    i think i pay 60 with ten buck promo off the 70.

    (i am now using Mb instead of MB) if i pay 20 bucks more i can go from 200Mbps to 400Mbps

    i think my upload limitations are based on the area. i had much faster upload speeds when i lived 20 miles away.
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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to MRO on Wed Sep 9 03:00:33 2020
    Re: Steam DRM
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Sep 08 2020 05:15 pm

    over by me they took over from timewarner so they have their infrastructure. we've always had static ips. i could probably get faster speeds if i use my cable modem.

    (i am now using Mb instead of MB) if i pay 20 bucks more i can go from 200Mbps to 400Mbps

    Same for me here, though I don't use my cablemode for hosting our BBS (it's on a VPS instead) so no need for a static IP.

    What's rank is that my wife's business has to pay twice the rate and gets half the speeds.

    Hatton

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Wed Sep 9 09:11:04 2020
    Re: Steam DRM
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Sep 08 2020 05:15 pm

    (i am now using Mb instead of MB) if i pay 20 bucks more i can go from 200Mbps to 400Mbps

    Sounds similar to the service offering here. And yeah, I meant Mb (bits) when I too wrote MB before.

    digital man

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Thu Sep 10 18:26:48 2020
    Re: Steam DRM
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Sep 09 2020 09:11 am

    Re: Steam DRM
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Sep 08 2020 05:15 pm

    (i am now using Mb instead of MB) if i pay 20 bucks more i can go from
    200Mbps to 400Mbps

    Sounds similar to the service offering here. And yeah, I meant Mb (bits) when I too wrote MB before.

    digital man

    when i was writing MB i meant megabyte. sucks that my upload speed isnt even 2MB. i think it's because i'm in a heavily populated area.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Mon Sep 21 15:37:06 2020
    On 9/10/2020 4:26 PM, MRO wrote:

    when i was writing MB i meant megabyte. sucks that my upload speed isnt even 2MB. i think it's because i'm in a heavily populated area.

    Mine's not much more than that (20Mbps ~= 2.5MBps). Most users don't
    use much upload, so ISPs use many more channels for download vs upload.
    You can always get a dedicated symmetric connection, but those aren't
    cheap. I get 200mbit down, 20 up.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Mon Sep 28 09:15:22 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Sep 21 2020 03:37 pm

    On 9/10/2020 4:26 PM, MRO wrote:

    when i was writing MB i meant megabyte. sucks that my upload speed
    isnt even 2MB. i think it's because i'm in a heavily populated area.

    Mine's not much more than that (20Mbps ~= 2.5MBps). Most users don't
    use much upload, so ISPs use many more channels for download vs upload. You can always get a dedicated symmetric connection, but those aren't cheap. I get 200mbit down, 20 up.


    i'm in a big city. i should have gigabit dammit!
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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to MRO on Tue Sep 29 11:13:56 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: MRO to Tracker1 on Mon Sep 28 2020 09:15 am

    when i was writing MB i meant megabyte. sucks that my upload speed
    isnt even 2MB. i think it's because i'm in a heavily populated area.

    i'm in a big city. i should have gigabit dammit!

    My office is a few miles from Google/Facebook, we couldn't get anything above vDSL (6mb down, .5kb up) until about a year ago, but now were at 10Mb symetrical because it's so fucking expensive. We can go up to a gigabit, but our IT [female dog] is dumb as nails, and fucked over our relationship with the fiber line gods (AT*T).

    I mean, we don't need more than what we have, but it still pisses me off.

    I just moved to Marina in Monterey County and I now have access to gigabit if I want it, but it's through comsuck. I got 200mb to try them out, and they can't maintain that speed except for like 3am in the morning, so fuck them.

    Internet in America is only just better than Australia, and I guarantee you Australia will switch places with us in the next few years.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Android8675 on Tue Sep 29 20:48:39 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: Android8675 to MRO on Tue Sep 29 2020 11:13 am

    I just moved to Marina in Monterey County and I now have access to gigabit if I want it, but it's through comsuck. I got 200mb to try them out, and they can't maintain that speed except for like 3am in the morning, so fuck them.

    Internet in America is only just better than Australia, and I guarantee you Australia will switch places with us in the next few years.



    well now i heard on the radio that in my state in kenosha [riotville] they are doing to do gigabit. but they are going to dig through people's yards and driveways via 'micro trenching'. they claim they can patch it up but people arent happy with it.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wed Sep 30 08:13:18 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: MRO to Android8675 on Tue Sep 29 2020 08:48 pm

    well now i heard on the radio that in my state in kenosha [riotville] they are doing to do gigabit. but they are going to dig through people's yards and driveways via 'micro trenching'. they claim they can patch it up but people arent happy with it.

    There's an internet company in my area that does fiber (there are a couple) that recently did that down the street where I work. They had to dig small holes down through the sidewalk so they could run the fiber cable through, then patched the holes. Now there are round spaces with black concrete in them in the sidewalk.

    Nightfox

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Wed Sep 30 11:03:56 2020
    On 9/29/2020 6:48 PM, MRO wrote:

    well now i heard on the radio that in my state in kenosha [riotville] they are doing to do gigabit. but they are going to dig through people's yards and driveways via 'micro trenching'. they claim they can patch it up but people arent happy with it.

    From what I've read, regarding micro trenching, it hasn't been very
    good in terms of reliability... a lot of need for re-runs, unless it's
    gotten better.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wed Sep 30 16:16:18 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Sep 30 2020 08:13 am


    There's an internet company in my area that does fiber (there are a couple) that recently did that down the street where I work. They had to dig small holes down through the sidewalk so they could run the fiber cable through, then patched the holes. Now there are round spaces with black concrete in them in the sidewalk.



    i dont know why they just dont piggy back the power lines. that's what they used to do with cable.
    maybe they get damaged.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Wed Sep 30 16:18:24 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Wed Sep 30 2020 11:03 am

    On 9/29/2020 6:48 PM, MRO wrote:

    well now i heard on the radio that in my state in kenosha [riotville]
    they are doing to do gigabit. but they are going to dig through
    people's yards and driveways via 'micro trenching'. they claim they
    can patch it up but people arent happy with it.

    From what I've read, regarding micro trenching, it hasn't been very
    good in terms of reliability... a lot of need for re-runs, unless it's gotten better.



    well i just looked it up and they arent going past the frost line. so that means all kinds of shit can happen. in the very least their patches will pop up and down.
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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to MRO on Wed Oct 7 08:16:58 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: MRO to Android8675 on Tue Sep 29 2020 08:48 pm

    I just moved to Marina in Monterey County and I now have access to gigabit if I want it, but it's through comsuck. I got
    200mb to try them out, and they can't maintain that speed except for like 3am in the morning, so fuck them.

    well now i heard on the radio that in my state in kenosha [riotville] they are doing to do gigabit. but they are going to dig
    through people's yards and driveways via 'micro trenching'. they claim they can patch it up but people arent happy with it.

    I'd be curious as to how that goes. I've heard of city municipalities opening their own fiber Internet Service for city residents and are able to offer deals like what Google Fiber was doing (1gb for like $30/month). I suspect if people were pushed just a bit around here we could convince the city gov to at least look into something like that.

    I know any place considered "rural" should look into that I guess.

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Nightfox on Wed Oct 7 08:18:00 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Sep 30 2020 08:13 am

    There's an internet company in my area that does fiber (there are a couple) that recently did that down the street where I work.
    They had to dig small holes down through the sidewalk so they could run the fiber cable through, then patched the holes. Now
    there are round spaces with black concrete in them in the sidewalk.

    Does it look OK, or stupid, or ugly? Man if some company came in and fucked up my sidewalks I'd be pissed.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Android8675 on Wed Oct 7 12:21:34 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: Android8675 to Nightfox on Wed Oct 07 2020 08:18 am

    There's an internet company in my area that does fiber (there are a
    couple) that recently did that down the street where I work. They had
    to dig small holes down through the sidewalk so they could run the
    fiber cable through, then patched the holes. Now there are round
    spaces with black concrete in them in the sidewalk.

    Does it look OK, or stupid, or ugly? Man if some company came in and fucked up my sidewalks I'd be pissed.

    I think it looks somewhat ugly, but then, I'm not the type to really care so much about the appearance of the sidewalk near where I live/work. As long as people can walk across it, I guess it's doing it's job. Also, I think a sidewalk is public property rather than your own property - Utility companies or the city may need to come do work on it if they need to drill for cables or a storm drain, etc.. I don't think the sidewalk is yours to do what you want with.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Android8675 on Thu Oct 8 17:09:40 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: Android8675 to Nightfox on Wed Oct 07 2020 08:18 am

    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Sep 30 2020 08:13 am

    There's an internet company in my area that does fiber (there are a
    couple) that recently did that down the street where I work.
    They had to dig small holes down through the sidewalk so they could
    run the fiber cable through, then patched the holes. Now
    there are round spaces with black concrete in them in the sidewalk.

    Does it look OK, or stupid, or ugly? Man if some company came in and fucked up my sidewalks I'd be pissed.



    i guess google tried 'nano trenching' in lousville ky and it was a huge failure and it looks like shit. also repaving roads damaged the lines.

    i guess the deeper trenches dont fuck up as bad due to tire wear, but it still looks like a black line of tar of whatever where they laid the fiber optics.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to MRO on Thu Oct 8 21:29:20 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: MRO to Android8675 on Thu Oct 08 2020 05:09 pm

    i guess google tried 'nano trenching' in lousville ky and it was a huge fail and it looks like shit. also repaving roads damaged the lines.

    Whatever happened to that google wifi for all??

    HusTler

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Thu Oct 8 23:33:11 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: HusTler to MRO on Thu Oct 08 2020 09:29 pm

    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: MRO to Android8675 on Thu Oct 08 2020 05:09 pm

    i guess google tried 'nano trenching' in lousville ky and it was a
    huge fail and it looks like shit. also repaving roads damaged the
    lines.

    Whatever happened to that google wifi for all??


    never happened.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Android8675 on Sat Oct 10 14:42:25 2020
    On 10/7/2020 8:16 AM, Android8675 wrote:
    well now i heard on the radio that in my state in kenosha [riotville] they are doing to do gigabit. but they are going to dig
    through people's yards and driveways via 'micro trenching'. they claim they can patch it up but people arent happy with it.

    I'd be curious as to how that goes. I've heard of city municipalities opening their own fiber Internet Service for city residents and are able to offer deals like what Google Fiber was doing (1gb for like $30/month). I suspect if people were pushed just a bit around here we could convince the city gov to at least look into something like that.

    I know any place considered "rural" should look into that I guess.

    A lot of the incumbent cable/phone providers have actually been lobbying
    state congresses to get legislation that prevents municipalities from
    offering telecom or internet services directly.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Sat Oct 10 14:43:53 2020
    On 10/8/2020 3:09 PM, MRO wrote:

    i guess google tried 'nano trenching' in lousville ky and it was a huge failure and it looks like shit. also repaving roads damaged the lines.

    i guess the deeper trenches dont fuck up as bad due to tire wear, but it still looks like a black line of tar of whatever where they laid the fiber optics.

    In contrast though, I see that kind of tar line on streets without
    fiber, just to "repair" cracks/wear.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Sat Oct 10 21:40:36 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sat Oct 10 2020 02:43 pm

    On 10/8/2020 3:09 PM, MRO wrote:

    i guess google tried 'nano trenching' in lousville ky and it was a
    huge failure and it looks like shit. also repaving roads damaged the
    lines.

    i guess the deeper trenches dont fuck up as bad due to tire wear, but
    it still looks like a black line of tar of whatever where they laid
    the fiber
    optics.


    now imagine your internet going out for a week after some dipshit
    contractor digs up an area without contacting the company who owns the fiber

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  • From Android8675@VERT/PHARCYDE to Nightfox on Mon Oct 12 11:35:53 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: Nightfox to Android8675 on Wed Oct 07 2020 12:21 pm

    fucked up my sidewalks I'd be pissed.

    I think it looks somewhat ugly, but then, I'm not the type to really care so much about the appearance of the sidewalk near where I live/work. As long as people can walk across it, I guess it's doing it's job. Also, I think a sidewalk is public property rather than your own property - Utility

    Right, I forget about that, but still property values, etc. Look at me, I buy my first house less than a year ago and i'm turning into a NIMBY'ite.

    companies or the city may need to come do work on it if they need to drill for cables or a storm drain, etc.. I don't think the sidewalk is yours to do what you want with.

    *sniff*


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  • From Android8675@VERT/PHARCYDE to HusTler on Mon Oct 12 11:38:54 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: HusTler to MRO on Thu Oct 08 2020 09:29 pm

    Whatever happened to that google wifi for all??

    I think SpaceX has taken over that project. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/03/spacex-starlink-satellite-internet-network-early-tests-show-fast-speeds.html


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Mon Oct 12 18:16:15 2020
    Re: Re: Steam DRM
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sat Oct 10 2020 02:43 pm

    In contrast though, I see that kind of tar line on streets without
    fiber, just to "repair" cracks/wear.

    it doesnt work if cars drive over it. it gets ripped out.
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