• Knowing Neighbors

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Jan 6 17:04:00 2023
    I blame people not having local BBS's to log in to and we don't
    'know our neighbors' anymore...

    When I was growing up, I think my parents knew our next-door neighbors and
    a few others because they either (a) had kids our age, or (b) had kids old enough to babysit.

    It seems like as I have got older, people don't get to know their neighbors
    as much. At my last house, my next door neighbors on one side rarely ever spoke to me, and this was in a neighborhood where the houses were less than
    10 yards apart.

    I have never lived anywhere that we had neighborhood get-togethers. OTOH,
    my sister and her husband live in a neighborhood where a lot of them get together and celebrate holidays. They had a 1980's Ski Lodge themed NYE
    party that looks like it was fun. That way no one had to drive... they
    could all walk home.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sun Jan 8 05:57:00 2023
    I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
    air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)

    Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
    to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
    and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
    air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
    out the outside world...

    I think there's a lot of truth to that!

    It does make a lot of sense. The kids don't play outside as much anymore, either. In the case of some of our local kids, that is a good thing.
    Whenever they are outside they are screaming at their parents or tearing
    (other people's) stuff up. :O ;)


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Jimmy Anderson on Sun Jan 8 14:24:00 2023
    Re: Re: Knowing Neighbors
    By: Jimmy Anderson to Dumas Walker on Sat Jan 07 2023 09:43 pm

    Dumas Walker wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I blame people not having local BBS's to log in to and we don't
    'know our neighbors' anymore...

    When I was growing up, I think my parents knew our next-door neighbors and a few others because they either (a) had kids our age, or (b) had kids old enough to babysit.

    It seems like as I have got older, people don't get to know their neighbors as much. At my last house, my next door neighbors on one side rarely ever spoke to me, and this was in a neighborhood where the houses were less than 10 yards apart.

    I have never lived anywhere that we had neighborhood get-togethers. OTOH, my sister and her husband live in a neighborhood where a lot of them get together and celebrate holidays. They had a 1980's Ski Lodge themed NYE party that looks like it was fun. That way no one had to drive... they could all walk home.

    Sounds like a GREAT idea!

    I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
    air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)

    Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
    to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
    and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
    air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
    out the outside world...

    I think there's a lot of truth to that!




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    no front porch and the "front" door was placed on the side of the house adjace nt to the driveway. He believed that the front porch was a remnant of when pe ople walked and rode horse and carriage, and they moved along slpw enough you can have a conversation with passesrs by. That allows the front door to be more useful when greeting guests stepping out of their cars in the driveway.

    Regarding next door neighbors, either I know them from growing up, khowing th eir kids, knowing them because their kids played sports with my neice and nephews, or through church.

    Nowadays I know half of my neighbors, but know little about them or have no social threads with them.

    It seems like the neighbors were closer or more friendly during my parent's generation. I also think that is because everyone here was from around here, and an acquaitance of an acquaintance. These people were all from the area within the county, and the older families had large families so it was hard
    to avoid not knowing someone from a family.

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to DUMAS WALKER on Tue Jan 10 13:41:00 2023
    DUMAS WALKER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
    air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)

    Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
    to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
    and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
    air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
    out the outside world...

    I think there's a lot of truth to that!

    It does make a lot of sense. The kids don't play outside as much
    anymore, either. In the case of some of our local kids, that is a good thing. Whenever they are outside they are screaming at their parents or tearing (other people's) stuff up. :O ;)

    LOL - yeah, I can see that, but yeah kids have different social circles nowadays...




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to MOONDOG on Tue Jan 10 13:44:00 2023
    MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
    air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)

    Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
    to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
    and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
    air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
    out the outside world...

    I think there's a lot of truth to that!

    When Frank Lloyd Wright made his first concept of a modern house,
    there was no front porch and the "front" door was placed on the side of the house adjace nt to the driveway. He believed that the front porch
    was a remnant of when pe ople walked and rode horse and carriage, and
    they moved along slpw enough you can have a conversation with passesrs
    by. That allows the front door to be more useful when greeting guests stepping out of their cars in the driveway.

    I can see that! I guess that also explains why the porches were so HUGE
    before too!

    Regarding next door neighbors, either I know them from growing up,
    khowing th eir kids, knowing them because their kids played sports with
    my neice and nephews, or through church.

    Nowadays I know half of my neighbors, but know little about them or
    have no social threads with them.

    It seems like the neighbors were closer or more friendly during my parent's generation. I also think that is because everyone here was
    from around here, and an acquaitance of an acquaintance. These people were all from the area within the county, and the older families had
    large families so it was hard to avoid not knowing someone from a
    family.

    Yeah. It's so much easier to travel today, and much easier to actually
    PICK UP AND MOVE farther and farther away.




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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon Jan 16 15:32:00 2023
    Re: Re: Knowing Neighbors
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MOONDOG on Tue Jan 10 2023 01:44 pm

    MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
    air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)

    Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
    to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
    and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
    air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
    out the outside world...

    I think there's a lot of truth to that!

    When Frank Lloyd Wright made his first concept of a modern house, there was no front porch and the "front" door was placed on the side of the house adjace nt to the driveway. He believed that the front porch was a remnant of when pe ople walked and rode horse and carriage, and they moved along slpw enough you can have a conversation with passesrs by. That allows the front door to be more useful when greeting guests stepping out of their cars in the driveway.

    I can see that! I guess that also explains why the porches were so HUGE before too!

    Regarding next door neighbors, either I know them from growing up, khowing th eir kids, knowing them because their kids played sports with my neice and nephews, or through church.

    Nowadays I know half of my neighbors, but know little about them or have no social threads with them.

    It seems like the neighbors were closer or more friendly during my parent's generation. I also think that is because everyone here was from around here, and an acquaitance of an acquaintance. These people were all from the area within the county, and the older families had large families so it was hard to avoid not knowing someone from a family.

    Yeah. It's so much easier to travel today, and much easier to actually
    PICK UP AND MOVE farther and farther away.




    ... I before E except after C, huh? Weird!

    Correct. In the old days the kids would stay around or leave school early to work on the farm, and marry into another local family. College and professional jobs elsewhere allow the families to move one to where the jobs are.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon Jan 16 16:17:00 2023
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-

    DUMAS WALKER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
    air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)


    Also, neignbors run their AC 24/7 and put the compressor where they
    can't hear it but their neighbors can.

    I had a neighbor who ran his AC most every month until 10:00pm -- and
    their compressor was right outside of our dining room windows. That was
    the least of his problems, I'm afraid.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tue Jan 17 17:41:00 2023
    Also, neignbors run their AC 24/7 and put the compressor where they
    can't hear it but their neighbors can.

    I think you are right about newer houses. A friend of mine had a house
    built in the 1990's or so. Her neighbor had a 2-story with a compressor
    for each floor. Both were outside her kitchen bay window. The neighbor,
    OTOH, had no windows on that level.

    Her unit, IIRC, was also on that same side, but not close to the window.
    As many new, larger homes are built barely 5 yards apart, walking between
    the two houses to get to her backyard could be noisy during Summer.

    One of the houses I grew up in was built in the late 1960's. The outdoor
    unit was on the side of the house where there were no windows on that
    level. It faced the garage wall of the neighbor's house, which also had no windows.

    The neighbors on the other side backed up to my parent's house. Their
    outdoor unit was on a wall that faced our windowless garage wall.
    Ironically, their unit was right outside their dining room windows. I
    remember that because lightning struck their nearby tree and fried their outside unit.

    Just around the corner of the house, they had a wall with no windows on it. Only thing I can figure was that the unit was not put there because they
    were a corner house and that windowless wall faced a street.

    Mike


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