I blame people not having local BBS's to log in to and we don't
'know our neighbors' anymore...

When I was growing up, I think my parents knew our next-door neighbors and
a few others because they either (a) had kids our age, or (b) had kids old enough to babysit.

It seems like as I have got older, people don't get to know their neighbors
as much. At my last house, my next door neighbors on one side rarely ever spoke to me, and this was in a neighborhood where the houses were less than
10 yards apart.

I have never lived anywhere that we had neighborhood get-togethers. OTOH,
my sister and her husband live in a neighborhood where a lot of them get together and celebrate holidays. They had a 1980's Ski Lodge themed NYE
party that looks like it was fun. That way no one had to drive... they
could all walk home.


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I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)

Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
out the outside world...

I think there's a lot of truth to that!

It does make a lot of sense. The kids don't play outside as much anymore, either. In the case of some of our local kids, that is a good thing.
Whenever they are outside they are screaming at their parents or tearing
(other people's) stuff up. :O ;)


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Re: Re: Knowing Neighbors
By: Jimmy Anderson to Dumas Walker on Sat Jan 07 2023 09:43 pm

Dumas Walker wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I blame people not having local BBS's to log in to and we don't
'know our neighbors' anymore...

When I was growing up, I think my parents knew our next-door neighbors and a few others because they either (a) had kids our age, or (b) had kids old enough to babysit.

It seems like as I have got older, people don't get to know their neighbors as much. At my last house, my next door neighbors on one side rarely ever spoke to me, and this was in a neighborhood where the houses were less than 10 yards apart.

I have never lived anywhere that we had neighborhood get-togethers. OTOH, my sister and her husband live in a neighborhood where a lot of them get together and celebrate holidays. They had a 1980's Ski Lodge themed NYE party that looks like it was fun. That way no one had to drive... they could all walk home.

Sounds like a GREAT idea!

I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)

Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
out the outside world...

I think there's a lot of truth to that!

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When Frank Lloyd Wright made his first concept of a modern house, there was
no front porch and the "front" door was placed on the side of the house adjace nt to the driveway. He believed that the front porch was a remnant of when pe ople walked and rode horse and carriage, and they moved along slpw enough you can have a conversation with passesrs by. That allows the front door to be more useful when greeting guests stepping out of their cars in the driveway.

Regarding next door neighbors, either I know them from growing up, khowing th eir kids, knowing them because their kids played sports with my neice and nephews, or through church.

Nowadays I know half of my neighbors, but know little about them or have no social threads with them.

It seems like the neighbors were closer or more friendly during my parent's generation. I also think that is because everyone here was from around here, and an acquaitance of an acquaintance. These people were all from the area within the county, and the older families had large families so it was hard
to avoid not knowing someone from a family.

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DUMAS WALKER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)

Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
out the outside world...

I think there's a lot of truth to that!

It does make a lot of sense. The kids don't play outside as much
anymore, either. In the case of some of our local kids, that is a good thing. Whenever they are outside they are screaming at their parents or tearing (other people's) stuff up. :O ;)

LOL - yeah, I can see that, but yeah kids have different social circles nowadays...




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MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)

Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
out the outside world...

I think there's a lot of truth to that!

When Frank Lloyd Wright made his first concept of a modern house,
there was no front porch and the "front" door was placed on the side of the house adjace nt to the driveway. He believed that the front porch
was a remnant of when pe ople walked and rode horse and carriage, and
they moved along slpw enough you can have a conversation with passesrs
by. That allows the front door to be more useful when greeting guests stepping out of their cars in the driveway.

I can see that! I guess that also explains why the porches were so HUGE
before too!

Regarding next door neighbors, either I know them from growing up,
khowing th eir kids, knowing them because their kids played sports with
my neice and nephews, or through church.

Nowadays I know half of my neighbors, but know little about them or
have no social threads with them.

It seems like the neighbors were closer or more friendly during my parent's generation. I also think that is because everyone here was
from around here, and an acquaitance of an acquaintance. These people were all from the area within the county, and the older families had
large families so it was hard to avoid not knowing someone from a
family.

Yeah. It's so much easier to travel today, and much easier to actually
PICK UP AND MOVE farther and farther away.




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Re: Re: Knowing Neighbors
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MOONDOG on Tue Jan 10 2023 01:44 pm

MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)

Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
out the outside world...

I think there's a lot of truth to that!

When Frank Lloyd Wright made his first concept of a modern house, there was no front porch and the "front" door was placed on the side of the house adjace nt to the driveway. He believed that the front porch was a remnant of when pe ople walked and rode horse and carriage, and they moved along slpw enough you can have a conversation with passesrs by. That allows the front door to be more useful when greeting guests stepping out of their cars in the driveway.

I can see that! I guess that also explains why the porches were so HUGE before too!

Regarding next door neighbors, either I know them from growing up, khowing th eir kids, knowing them because their kids played sports with my neice and nephews, or through church.

Nowadays I know half of my neighbors, but know little about them or have no social threads with them.

It seems like the neighbors were closer or more friendly during my parent's generation. I also think that is because everyone here was from around here, and an acquaitance of an acquaintance. These people were all from the area within the county, and the older families had large families so it was hard to avoid not knowing someone from a family.

Yeah. It's so much easier to travel today, and much easier to actually
PICK UP AND MOVE farther and farther away.

... I before E except after C, huh? Weird!

Correct. In the old days the kids would stay around or leave school early to work on the farm, and marry into another local family. College and professional jobs elsewhere allow the families to move one to where the jobs are.

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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-

DUMAS WALKER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)

Also, neignbors run their AC 24/7 and put the compressor where they
can't hear it but their neighbors can.

I had a neighbor who ran his AC most every month until 10:00pm -- and
their compressor was right outside of our dining room windows. That was
the least of his problems, I'm afraid.



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Also, neignbors run their AC 24/7 and put the compressor where they
can't hear it but their neighbors can.

I think you are right about newer houses. A friend of mine had a house
built in the 1990's or so. Her neighbor had a 2-story with a compressor
for each floor. Both were outside her kitchen bay window. The neighbor,
OTOH, had no windows on that level.

Her unit, IIRC, was also on that same side, but not close to the window.
As many new, larger homes are built barely 5 yards apart, walking between
the two houses to get to her backyard could be noisy during Summer.

One of the houses I grew up in was built in the late 1960's. The outdoor
unit was on the side of the house where there were no windows on that
level. It faced the garage wall of the neighbor's house, which also had no windows.

The neighbors on the other side backed up to my parent's house. Their
outdoor unit was on a wall that faced our windowless garage wall.
Ironically, their unit was right outside their dining room windows. I
remember that because lightning struck their nearby tree and fried their outside unit.

Just around the corner of the house, they had a wall with no windows on it. Only thing I can figure was that the unit was not put there because they
were a corner house and that windowless wall faced a street.

Mike


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